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post 1603440471 04-25-2020, 04:23 PM
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By existing you endanger other people, just by breathing or driving, no matter how responsibly you do it you can kill another person by flu or cold that you didn’t know you had, or by your car.

And yet we do it. All the time.

Just sayin.
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Originally Posted By wd0694820
Slight issue with this statement. Not saying I’m pro or anti vaccine the following is just maths and science without an opinion

Now almost all vaccines aren’t 100% effective, BUT if enough people get them then they don’t actually have to be, the smallpox vaccine wasnt 100% effective yet we still managed to vaccinate it out of the human population. Why?

So imagine you have a group of 100 people, now let’s say you have a disease, and you have a vaccine for this disease, and this vaccine is 90% effective

Now let’s say 90% of people get this vaccine, in this scenario 81 people are completely protected from the disease and 19 people still act as vectors to transmit it. So if one person becomes infected, 4 out of 5 people they interact with arent vectors for this virus, so it’s less likely to spread to people in the population and depending on its R0 value it’s likely to die out and eventually be eradicated.

Now let’s say only 50% of people get this vaccine, in this scenario 45 people are completely protected from the virus and 55 still act as vectors to spread the virsu. So in this case the majority of people still act as vectors to spread the disease and it won’t be eradicated from the population.

So in the first scenario, the 10% of people who were anti vaxxers were actually protected by everyone else who got vaccinated. If you’re anti vaccine yourself, it’s actually everyone else who’s getting vaccinated which protects you from disease and potentially saves your life
I get exactly what you're saying and I think some vaccines are valuable, like polio.

But something that is common and happens in life commonly like the flu or corona virus (more as in common colds) where you have a 99.9% chance of survival them I'm against people forcing this on other.
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Originally Posted By wd0694820
Slight issue with this statement. Not saying I’m pro or anti vaccine the following is just maths and science without an opinion

Now almost all vaccines aren’t 100% effective, BUT if enough people get them then they don’t actually have to be, the smallpox vaccine wasnt 100% effective yet we still managed to vaccinate it out of the human population. Why?

So imagine you have a group of 100 people, now let’s say you have a disease, and you have a vaccine for this disease, and this vaccine is 90% effective

Now let’s say 90% of people get this vaccine, in this scenario 81 people are completely protected from the disease and 19 people still act as vectors to transmit it. So if one person becomes infected, 4 out of 5 people they interact with arent vectors for this virus, so it’s less likely to spread to people in the population and depending on its R0 value it’s likely to die out and eventually be eradicated.

Now let’s say only 50% of people get this vaccine, in this scenario 45 people are completely protected from the virus and 55 still act as vectors to spread the virsu. So in this case the majority of people still act as vectors to spread the disease and it won’t be eradicated from the population.

So in the first scenario, the 10% of people who were anti vaxxers were actually protected by everyone else who got vaccinated. If you’re anti vaccine yourself, it’s actually everyone else who’s getting vaccinated which protects you from disease and potentially saves your life
Looks like you just repeated what he said. Get the vaccine then and carry on worry free.
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At this point, if you can't see what's happening you're willfully ignorant.
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will never happen in the USA
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Originally Posted By A-GAME
At this point, if you can't see what's happening you're willfully ignorant.
What is happening?
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Smart. Let's force everyone to take the least tested and vetted vaccine in human history since the dark ages. What could go wrong.


Not against vaccines. I'm against taking vaccines from companies who are right now RACING one another to be the first to market to make billions if not maybe even trillions.
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Originally Posted By SirFapsAIot
Looks like you just repeated what he said. Get the vaccine then and carry on worry free.
No you misunderstand. In the second scenario some people who get the vaccine are still vulnerable to the disease because it’s not 100% effective and there’s still vectors in the population allowing it to spread
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Originally Posted By dannyg1217
I get exactly what you're saying and I think some vaccines are valuable, like polio.

But something that is common and happens in life commonly like the flu or corona virus (more as in common colds) where you have a 99.9% chance of survival them I'm against people forcing this on other.
I don’t agree wirh forcing anything on anyone, let them see the facts and make their own informed decision, however I expect I and most others will choose to get the vaccine
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i don't like the idea of being forced nationwide to get it, especially given the rush to create it and how new the idea is but if it's proven, i'd like to think its reasonable to require it for public schoolchildren the same way we're required MMR vaccines and stuff
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Originally Posted By kusok
By existing you endanger other people, just by breathing or driving, no matter how responsibly you do it you can kill another person by flu or cold that you didn’t know you had, or by your car.

And yet we do it. All the time.

Just sayin.
Yeah basically, people believe humans are a blight on the planet. Its very good mind control, ill give the elite credit. Funnily enough the rules dont apply to the elite, just the plebs. Like veganism. Not the elite, just for the peasants.
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Originally Posted By Reliance012
Should you be able to drunk drive?
Hey phucktard, you're comparing a virus with a 99.8% chance of survival for ages 18-39 to drunk driving.

Your comparison also falls flat because if they ever do come out with this vaccine you won't have to worry about others. There is no vaccine a sober person driving home can take that makes them immune to the drunk driving of others.

The fact your argument is so dumb tells me it's not worth trying to ever open your mind. Go back to your house arrest sentence, wait for the government's experimental injection and keep parroting headlines the news tells you to follow without doing an ounce of critical thinking.
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Originally Posted By eod8989
What is happening?
The steady erosion of freedom and increasing moves towards totalitarianism.
Originally Posted By dmaaack
will never happen in the USA
Your rights are already being trampled on because of the flu bro. Wake up, you're dreaming.
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"Initially, the government wanted the law to give the police the right to enter private homes without a court order if there is a suspicion of coronavirus infection." ...
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Originally Posted By eod8989
What is happening?
Do you people intentionally ignore long posts because your attention span and brain can't handle it or some ****?
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Million-Merits and the rest of black mirror were predicative programming.

People running from the metal dogs are those that refused to get microchipped.

Million-Merits patent by Microsoft.

Lead character name is Bing, his supporting character is Dustin. Look at the patent company and the name of the creator.

ABRAMSON, Dustin.

Bing is Microsoft.

https://patentscope2.wipo.int/search...&tab=PCTBIBLIO

Cliffs -
Inject people with chips to use human and bodily functions to mine cryptocurrency.



Now I will do AT&T, Routing Policies for Biological hosts

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Cliffs -
Methods, systems, and products provide interfaces between intrahost networks and interhost networks within biological hosts. Neuroregional translations are performed to route communications to and from the biological hosts. Bioregional translations may also be performed to route communications to and from the biological hosts.

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In for the denialists who can't accept the reality we are headed towards.

Blue pills think this isn't real. Red pills don't think it can happen. Black pills know ****s coming and we are all doomed and going to be setup for slavery via implantation, because the two former groups are denialists.


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That could never happen!

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Originally Posted By Reliance012
Good thing we don’t decide scientific validity in a court of law. A good lawyer could convince an uneducated jury the earth is flat. That doesn’t mean it is.
A good media can convince the USA that terrorists have wmds in Iraq and need a 20 year 4 trillion dollar war on their dime.

A good media can convince people that someone who has come out and and said he supports depopulation through vaccines, was the cause of an explosion of polio and paralysis in India after injecting children without their parents consent.. Will be the one to save us with his rushed and untested vaccine.

That doesn't mean he will.

Go do 15 mins of research on Bill Gates track record, and I'm not talking about what Google's propaganda engine displays on its first page.
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Originally Posted By irollurmom
Cars topped at like 20 MPH. That's why LOL
And also it is a simple action that prevents preventable injuries that then use the healthcare system and resources. Same logic as why heroin is illegal, you do heroin you are only effecting 'you' but in reality you are burdening more then just yourself.

Edit: Still want a say on what goes on with my own body.
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I’m not against vaccinations but I have a big problem with forcing it on people and using the police to do it.
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Negged ******* OP for spreading outright wrong information regarding this.
Denmark is NOT forcing anyone to get the vaccine. You’re dumb ******* and so many miscers ITT are jumping the gun because it fits their agenda. Low IQ confirmed.
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Originally Posted By Fishin4gainz
And also it is a simple action that prevents preventable injuries that then use the healthcare system and resources. Same logic as why heroin is illegal, you do heroin you are only effecting 'you' but in reality you are burdening more then just yourself.

Edit: Still want a say on what goes on with my own body.
Allow me to ether you with my post that you didn't read, and why those guys stopped responding. I await for you to never respond.
Originally Posted By Suit
Your short-sighted fallacious ignorant argument conveniently ignores the following


The first person to achieve 100 miles in an hour was Percy Lambert, on 15 February 1913, driving a 4.5 liter sidevalve Talbot reportedly producing 105 bhp at 2,500 rpm

In many ways, the rise in speeds from 1894 to 1914 charts that wave of innovation: from one cylinder to 12 cylinders, from two- to four-wheel brakes, from side-valve to DOHC 4-valve hemispherical combustion chambers, from open to streamlined, from solid axles to pneumatic suspension and incredibly, from 12 mph to 120 mph.

1949 - Jaguar produced a car that could reach 124.6 mph
1955 - Mercedes produced a car that could reach 150.7 mph


Try again.



Again, false, read above.

Number of cars on road



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Originally Posted By dannyg1217
injecting something into someone's body against their will is a good thing. Take it yourself and if it's an effective vaccine then you dont have to worry about the rest of us.

Btw the flu vaccine is 30 to 40% effective yet you idiots tout that as a holy grail. No thanks I'll take my chances without.
the flushot is a small dose of the flu thats it.. so that you build antibodies and ya its not fully effective as the virus mutates but theres no harm in getting the shot to get some exta anti bodies
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Originally Posted By arod204
A good media can convince the USA that terrorists have wmds in Iraq and need a 20 year 4 trillion dollar war on their dime.

A good media can convince people that someone who has come out and and said he supports depopulation through vaccines, was the cause of an explosion of polio and paralysis in India after injecting children without their parents consent.. Will be the one to save us with his rushed and untested vaccine.

That doesn't mean he will.

Go do 15 mins of research on Bill Gates track record, and I'm not talking about what Google's propaganda engine displays on its first page.
Scary that people like you can vote.

Genuinely wouldn’t be surprised if you have a metal helmet on right now. You’re right though bud, it’s all a depopulation conspiracy from the deep state.
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rip Canada too

(translated from french)

Article 123:

During the state of health emergency, despite any contrary provision, the government or the minister, if it has been empowered, may, without delay and without formality, to protect the health of the population:

Order the compulsory vaccination of the whole population or a certain part of it against smallpox or against another contagious disease seriously threatening the health of the population and, if necessary, draw up a list of persons or groups that should be vaccinated as a priority;

The government, the minister or any other person cannot be prosecuted for an act done in good faith in the exercise or execution of these powers.

And item # 126:

If a person fails to submit to the vaccination referred to in an order given under section 123, any judge of the Court of Quebec or of the municipal courts of the cities of Montreal, Laval or Quebec having jurisdiction in the locality where this person is, can order him to submit to it.

The judge may also, if he has serious grounds to believe that this person will not submit to it and that he is of the opinion that the protection of public health justifies it, order that this person be taken to a specific place to be vaccinated.

http://legisquebec.gouv.qc.ca/fr/ShowDoc/cs/S-2.2
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Originally Posted By Brosnbroccoli
Negged ******* OP for spreading outright wrong information regarding this.
Denmark is NOT forcing anyone to get the vaccine. You’re dumb ******* and so many miscers ITT are jumping the gun because it fits their agenda. Low IQ confirmed.
Not sure if srs. From the article...

"As well as enforcing quarantine measures, the law also allows the authorities to force people to be vaccinated"

Esplain yourself while I load my neg cannons, *******.
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Originally Posted By dannyg1217
lol I have a chem.degree and a minor in biology, all of my electives were 400 and 500 level biology. Let's look at it like this.

Me: how does this make me stay healthy.
Doctor: putting an inactive version of the virus makes you develop antibodies to protect against it.
Me: awesome, so I wont have to worry about getting sick.
D: well not exactly, if someone around you isnt vaccinated then you can get it.
M: but wouldn't I have antibodies and immunities?
D: nope, refer to my previous statement
M: what about the statement preceding that one?
D: nope or if the virus mutates or is slightly different form, then it wont be effective, like the flu vaccine.
M: you wut m8
Lol at having an undergrad chem degree and thinking you're intelligent and can hold a conversation with an MD.
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I’m against mandating the vaccine.

Remove the retards from the gene pool.

(Obviously ^^^ doesn’t apply to people who have a genuine medical reason not to be vaccinated)

Also who cares no vaccine exists
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Originally Posted By Reliance012
Scary that people like you can vote.

Genuinely wouldn’t be surprised if you have a metal helmet on right now. You’re right though bud, it’s all a depopulation conspiracy from the deep state.
Lol I never said it's depopulation, you can find Bill Gates on record saying he believes vaccines are a method of population control. I said I won't be rushing to take his vaccine since it's likely to be hurried to market, and because corona simply isn't that dangerous to my age group.

As a university educated economics major I understand stats and risk, and can critically read titles without freaking out. If you do any research on the fatality rates, demographics and the quality of data collection you likely wouldn't advocate for a vaccine.

Of course you think someone without a flu shot/not wearing a seatbelt is similar to driving drunk so these concepts will be lost on you. You're right though, you're exactly the kind of voter they hope turns up to the polls, a chicken little who regurgitates headlines, holds the exact same opinions the corporate new tells him to verbatim, and does what he is told.

Go get your injection you cuck, wouldn't want to risk the 99.9% survival rate for 18-39. Better to get god knows what injected into your blood stream.
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Originally Posted By ISurfNudeBrah
Lol at having an undergrad chem degree and thinking you're intelligent and can hold a conversation with an MD.
MD's are the automotive diagnostician of the human body, literally the lowest of the low on the totem poll in the medical field. They have no requirement other than infinite years of school and memorizing. That is it, none of it equates to intelligence in any shape-way or form.

Field specialists are the real ones, viroligists, geneticists, surgeons, dermos, radiologists, etc.

Not the guy that you walk into the hospital with a broken arm and they go "derrrr, does this hurt, yeah its broken, go to this medical professional to get it fixed."

They input your symptoms as YOU say them, into a computer, the computer tells them the most likely thing, they take that recommendation from the computer and tell you to go to a ****ing specialist.

Doctors are barely above ****ing nurses. Your appeal to authority is stupid.

Go ask your doctor about nutrition, they are ****ing retards.
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Originally Posted By asmith474
"Initially, the government wanted the law to give the police the right to enter private homes without a court order if there is a suspicion of coronavirus infection." ...
Wat...
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100% against this.

We should let all the anti-vax retards go vaccine free so they can infect each other and fuk right off

Natural selection at its finest

What difference would it make to me if these dumb fuks forgo a vaccine? I’m getting it so I’ll be fine LMAO
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