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post 1603786741 04-30-2020, 04:18 AM
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You can tell the difference in this thread between low IQ mongols and medium to high IQs that have their chit together.
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****ed but also lulzy. Jesus some of you in here are salty towards professors.

Doing open note stuff for online courses is okay to me, but I can't stand students who cheat in class by sneaking in notes or looking at tests of their neighbors.

I did a pre-med degree and took a kinesiology course for fun. I was the only pre-med student in the class, the rest were athletic training students. Anyways, I took both physics I and II in one semester and got A's in both, so when math started getting involved in kinesiology the other students panicked and were begging me for help. I started holding after class study sessions where I essentially played professor to 10-15 students, and ho lee fuk they were so lazy. They didn't understand that you had to derive formulas with physics and there was a lot of interpretation needed (though it was all simple stuff in this course) they whined and complained about it and just wanted to "know the formula" for each question type. They couldn't comprehend that it didn't work this way. So then it devolved into them trying to sit by me and cheat during tests and wanting me to send them our homework assignments to copy. I told them I'd love to help teach them how to do the homework and made it clear to **** off during exam time. Lazy ****s all passed the course but barely made it. If I'm going out of my way to help you, don't be a lazy ****.
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The professor is a sack of shit. Everybody cheats in college one way or another. The funniest thing I’ve witnessed is a international student cheat in the middle of a final using her iPhone. Prof saw and ripped up the exam in front of everybody.
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Originally Posted By patagucci
Everyone cheats
I only cheated once, in high school, on a test that I would have gotten an A on even if I didn't cheat. Cheated just because I was bored and my friend had an interesting plan.

Not everyone is an industry copecel that is just trying to get a degree so they can increase their wages.
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post 1603787931 04-30-2020, 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted By AgRyan
He basically entrapped them. He created (admittedly) an impossible problem. This would lead kids who otherwise would not have looked anything up and who possibly studied their asses off, to look up an answer because it seemed flawed or doesn't make complete sense.

Not fair, and not the same as simply writing a uniquely worded question (which can ALSO be answered truthfully and fairly) and seeing who put the exact/extremely similar response to the Chegg answer.
This is a good point.

Anyhow, did all of undergrad legit, but Grad school and beyond...I'd be lying if I said I haven't utilized resources.
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I dont care about what the Prof did but I cant wait to see the Universities and colleges of the world shutter enmasse because the fake money train from students dries up from corona chan.

90% of these institutions can just vanish and leave the best tbh. Fuk the system that has enabled debt chains, fuk the majority of lazy lecturers and Profs and fuk "students" going in for bullchit courses.

Make HE great again IMO.
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Originally Posted By HomeGym4TheWin
Yeah, tell me that when you go have to compete in industry with a bunch of slackers who don't know their own field. As a CS professor, I am PROTECTING the scarceness of YOUR future job by bottlenecking the positions and saving them only for the most qualified. Dumb *******...you get an F from me.


Cringe. You can be a good/normal professor and learn a bunch of things while not being a ******* like the professor in the OP. Tests aren't always indicative of being the smartest one in the class nor being able to do a job well. lol @ doing something like this while people are in quarantine and during a pandemic. Hurrdurr gotta find out a way to expose cheaters online despite getting the same pay.
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To be fair, the process of learning, especially self learning, is to go and seek out sources of information. If you make a problem impossible to solve, you cant fault a curious mind for going to look it up.

Would make more sense for these online tests to focus more on explaining the process of getting an answer
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its college lol, entry level chit

and any entry level knowledge thats is actually necessary will be drilled in 100x anyway on the job

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Just by reading the responses itt you can tell who the brain dead cheaters were in college.

lmfao @ exposing yourselves
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Originally Posted By Reliance012
Better hope your surgeon wasn’t a “skilled and experienced” cheater during medical school and residency. Would hate for that cheating to have actual repercussions, huh?
or you could look at it this way

would you rather your surgeon open you up, see something he's never seen before and just start going to town hoping it works, or would you hope he uses outside resources to see if there are other cases similar to use that knowledge before continuing?

its unfair to the kids to have gone about it with an impossible question, if he wanted to catch legit cheaters he should have made up an entirely original test and put all the wrong answers on chegg. Professors that do that are fine, but putting one impossible to solve question on a test filled with possible to solve questions and expecting kids to not look up that one question thats literally impossible to solve is straight up retarded.
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I think that is a good strategy and people shouldnt cheat BUT what if you came up with the same answer as the cheat answer by coincidence?
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Pretty ****ing funny. But as a professor myself, I laugh at the professor. Hell, I teach math and know damn well even 90%+ of the students I have will not use anything more than basic math. I just try to make it my job that they can be more comfortable with numbers. They are going to learn well beyond what they need to know in a course, anyway. If they want to cheat through a degree, not learn how to think at all, then get a job where they are completely lost, that's their loss and the student will probably get fired from this future job. This professor, if intelligent, should realize this.

And no, I don't like it when people cheat, but it's gonna happen in this situation, so why would I waste my time thinking of creative scenarios to catch cheaters when I could just let the honest students actually get through the course with an accurate grade of their abilities.
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post 1603791141 04-30-2020, 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted By HomeGym4TheWin
This explains why commercial software is garbage. AAA games with day one patches. APIs (even Microsoft DirectX) with broken code that isn't backward compatible. Crashing programs that were released knowing they had insufficient QA.

The stuff taught in college is actually intended to help students avoid common pitfalls. LOL @ thinking you are going to be a top level software developer without understanding solid fundamentals, math, and design patterns.
Lmao sounds like you teach a basic intro level course. I have a naturally mathematical mind, yeah I’m gonna cheat online even though I don’t have to due to the competitive nature... prioritizing a stupid honor code online would mean willingly being at a disadvantage vs the other students who are using google. Big lol at all of the plebs thinking not using google means you have a higher IQ. Never cheated in the actual classroom.

Also fyi there’s a lot of shyt going on in your class that you’re unaware of I’m sure. Your flaw is that you think you’re such a hardcore no nonsense professor that nothing gets by you. I could teach your intro class so drop the high n mighty act my guy
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Lmao i remember cheating in school, we had this system where not everyone did the exam first. So if you had connections with the class that did it first you could get the questions and answers.

So for the multiple choice questions people were just memorising the answers like a,a,a,b,c,c,a,c.

The teachers caught on and changed the order of the questions and you still had dumbasses writing the exact same answer lmao.

I did it smart by actually finding out the actual answer, not just the multiple choice letter.
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Originally Posted By ayyy
Professors that do that are fine, but putting one impossible to solve question on a test filled with possible to solve questions and expecting kids to not look up that one question thats literally impossible to solve is straight up retarded.
Intelligent people, when they are faced with an insurmountably difficult question, do one of two things:

Prove that there is no answer to the question

Just submit their best progress or else submit no answer, or if it's multiple choice select a random answer.

They don't cheat like monkey brains, sorry if you and your braindead friends aren't intelligent. Sure we'd look up the answer after the exam, but only after and we wouldn't put the answer we found on our exams. Oh and no one cares how much money you make now after cheating in school, industry doesn't reward intelligence it rewards rent-seeking.
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Originally Posted By EmmaW4tson
I dont care about what the Prof did but I cant wait to see the Universities and colleges of the world shutter enmasse because the fake money train from students dries up from corona chan.

90% of these institutions can just vanish and leave the best tbh. Fuk the system that has enabled debt chains, fuk the majority of lazy lecturers and Profs and fuk "students" going in for bullchit courses.

Make HE great again IMO.
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Originally Posted By Achilles87
What kind of idiot wouldn't cheat on an online exam?
Many people still have morals when it comes to cheating on things. I can't magine thinking people see you as trustworthy when you do stuff like this lmao.
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Originally Posted By exyl
No, not all. Only the ones who didn’t see through the professors trap and miss the plant question on purpose. A skilled and experienced group chat of cheaters will recognize that.

About 30% of the class got caught, willing to bet more than 30% were using google.
Originally Posted By AgRyan
He basically entrapped them. He created (admittedly) an impossible problem. This would lead kids who otherwise would not have looked anything up and who possibly studied their asses off, to look up an answer because it seemed flawed or doesn't make complete sense.

Not fair, and not the same as simply writing a uniquely worded question (which can ALSO be answered truthfully and fairly) and seeing who put the exact/extremely similar response to the Chegg answer.
He probably caught only the students who usually don't cheat and didn't catch the ones who always cheat. There are always those students who freak about their high/perfect GPA too, bet there was a student with a 4.0 who panicked and cheated on the last question now getting a 0 and reported.
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Brb teaching people that searching for help when you don't know the answer deserves the worst punishment.

I'm sure they'll do great when they get their first job
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Professors should want their students to achieve. Expecting an average score in the class of only 85 means he/she intentionally tested the students on material he/she didn't teach them or didn't completely cover.
A test should serve 2 purposes. One for the student and one for the professor.
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Originally Posted By litljay
Professors should want their students to achieve. Expecting an average score in the class of only 85 means he/she intentionally tested the students he/she didn't teach them or didn't completely cover.
A test should serve 2 purposes. One for the student and one for the professor.
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Cheating on an "impossible" question isn't cheating.

There is no right answer.

1. If you "cheat" you get the answer wrong.
2. If you don't "cheat" you get the answer wrong.

This is engineered failure.
This isn't teaching.
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Originally Posted By 8pieces
lmao man cheating was so huge when I was in college. I didn't even realize how many people were cheating until my last 2 semesters. I was a daily commuter so i just went to class and left after. But I'd say it's probably around 90%. All these "study" groups for the online classes were just kids doing all the tests together. I was the real fool for not including myself in these. I did not benefit at all from not cheating. I debated exposing them but ended up not caring at all I just wanted to graduate.
I didn't realize it either.

I formed study groups regularly as a means to network, meet women, and get good grades of course. I was two years in before one dude told me about the cheating rings in our classes. Mind was blown. Especially the fraternities, they all kept test banks. They also had systems of phones and vibrations setup to tell the correct choices. Was funny too me.
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Originally Posted By XFactor416
Pretty slick move by the professor tbh. Well played.

What I find most interesting is how this carries over in IRL; in academia, god forbid you google something to get the answer and regurgitate it that way. But in the workplace, it's damn near encouraged..
Lmao this, it's crazy how the workplace is a complete 180 from how Academia/School is. If you're not actively looking answers up/asking people for help you're doing it wrong
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Originally Posted By nickh04
professors are *******s
this. most professors are the ugly weird kids who got beaten up in schools growing up. fuk em and fuk the colleges that are putting kids in $30k+ debt on average
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The Professor just let every student taking the test know the name of an online cheating website (Chegg) so they can now use that website to cheat on all future tests.

inb4 he gets fired for promoting it
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