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Ask a Cicerone (beer sommelier) anything

Whats up Misc? I’m a certified cicerone and bjcp certified beer judge. Ask me all your beer questions or post what you’re drinking.

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I wasn't aware that existed (at least as an actual title or designation). If I was ever going to be a sommelier I'd rather be a beer one than a wine one.


I guess my main question is - to my knowledge people "in the know" consider Wine to be much more sophisticated/advanced than beer. Is that still the common perception? Do you feel its accurate, especially with how much Microbreweries and the like have taken off?

If you had to pick one, what's your favorite style?

If I had to pick one, I'd probably go with Imperial Stout. What's your opinion on those?
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Give us your pick for best light beer (meaning low calorie).
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Originally Posted By Polaris⏩
I wasn't aware that existed (at least as an actual title or designation). If I was ever going to be a sommelier I'd rather be a beer one than a wine one.


I guess my main question is - to my knowledge people "in the know" consider Wine to be much more sophisticated/advanced than beer. Is that still the common perception? Do you feel its accurate, especially with how much Microbreweries and the like have taken off?

If you had to pick one, what's your favorite style?

If I had to pick one, I'd probably go with Imperial Stout. What's your opinion on those?
I’d say that in general people still perceive wine to be more sophisticated/advanced, but truthfully beer is a far more complex liquid and doesn’t get the respect it deserves (especially with food pairing). With that said, beer should never be pretentious imo. It’s for the everyman.

Favourite style? Right now i’m all about Czech Pilsners. When I first got into beer I was all about IPA’s..but as my palate progressed i’m now able to truly appreciate the more subtle styles.

Imperial stout I don’t mind in the colder months..and I usually only want just one before I move on to something more drinkable. I’d prefer just a normal stout or porter.
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Originally Posted By tunafish01⏩
What do you think of Untappd
I think there was good intentions behind the app to give brewers and breweries feedback but ended up turning into the misc in a way lol I don’t take ratings seriously anymore cause a lot of people don’t know what theyre talking about. They’ll rate a beer as a 2 because it’s not the style they like...and yet for the style the beer is a 4
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I'm a homebrewer and considered doing the BJCP certification. I don't have the time now unfortunately and I'm not brewing as often.

I grow a variety of hops on my property and get an excellent yield every year. For example, my hallertau plant is taller than I am and it's only Mid may in Canada.

I had an idea for a harvest brew in the fall. I was thinking of brewing a north eastern style IPA with wet cashmere hops and using a Kveik yeast. Any thoughts on that?

Do you think there's any value to cold-steeping roasted malt rather than just mashing it? I've always heard it helps reduce the astringency. One of my favorite styles of beer to brew is a black IPA. I've always just tossed in my roasted malts in with the rest in the mash. What do you think?

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How do you feel about the trend of IPA's > * with most microbreweries and hipster culture? Personally I have never tried an IPA that I actually enjoyed, just can't get past the feeling like I'm drinking a liquified 2×4. I definitely lean very heavily towards maltier flavor profiles when I want a good tasting beer.
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How is drakes brewing 100calories IPA certifies by men’s health lol
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Originally Posted By MN88⏩
I’d say that in general people still perceive wine to be more sophisticated/advanced, but truthfully beer is afar more complexliquid and doesn’t get the respect it deserves (especially with food pairing). With that said, beer should never be pretentious imo. It’s for the everyman.
Explain
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Originally Posted By sunsean⏩
Give us your pick for best light beer (meaning low calorie).
I haven’t had a light beer in so long I can’t give you a good answer. Maybe I’ll grab a bunch and do a battle on my next beer run. Although it’s not considered a light beer, my favourite pilsner is Pilsner Urquell and it’s only 4.4%. For comparison Coors Light is 4.2%
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Originally Posted By Ayz33⏩
Explain
I’ll try to condense this as best I can..beer is made up of malted barley, hops, water, and yeast. Brewers can also add other ingredients but generally speaking that’s what beer is made of. Each ingredient has it’s own complex compounds and an incredible amount of varieties (different base malts and specialty malts, hop varieties, yeast strains, water profiles) the brewer has no limits to what they can brew compared to wine which is constrained to the single grape.
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Originally Posted By SleepWithFan89⏩
How is drakes brewing 100calories IPA certifies by men’s health lol
Never tried it Lol I don’t see the point of the lo calorie beers when theres so many great german pilsners and czech lagers that have a negligible difference of calories and full flavour.
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Originally Posted By MN88⏩
I’d say that in general people still perceive wine to be more sophisticated/advanced, but truthfully beer is a far more complex liquid and doesn’t get the respect it deserves (especially with food pairing). With that said, beer should never be pretentious imo. It’s for the everyman.

Favourite style? Right now i’m all about Czech Pilsners. When I first got into beer I was all about IPA’s..but as my palate progressed i’m now able to truly appreciate the more subtle styles.

Imperial stout I don’t mind in the colder months..and I usually only want just one before I move on to something more drinkable. I’d prefer just a normal stout or porter.
Czech Pilsners eh? Never had one, but I've always been a German/Belgian guy in the beer department. What would you recommend for a good starter Czech Pilsner?
Originally Posted By 78novacaine⏩
How do you feel about the trend of IPA's > * with most microbreweries and hipster culture? Personally I have never tried an IPA that I actually enjoyed, just can't get past the feeling like I'm drinking a liquified 2×4. I definitely lean very heavily towards maltier flavor profiles when I want a good tasting beer.
Yeah the IPA trend has gotten old with me, but there are some really good ones out there.

If you ever want to give them a try I recommend Lagunitas. I think it's a very accessible IPA, and overall great tasting. Trust me on this. Let it get nice and cold and pour it into a glass.
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Originally Posted By MN88⏩
I’ll try to condense this as best I can..beer is made up of malted barley, hops, water, and yeast. Brewers can also add other ingredients but generally speaking that’s what beer is made of. Each ingredient has it’s own complex compounds and an incredible amount of varieties (different base malts and specialty malts, hop varieties, yeast strains, water profiles) the brewer has no limits to what they can brew compared to wine which is constrained to the single grape.
Interesting. Though I do feel you're over simplifying the wine process and the multitudes of variety they can produce with different grape types and style of production
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fuk you bro, you don't have chit on a seasoned alcoholic/ beer conissuer

Lol, at most responses are, haven't had that, haven't drank light beer. I stand by my first statement

What, just saw the ipa response. You're officially a joke, can't even elaborate on the styles and suggest the most basic of all IPAs
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Originally Posted By Voidgaze⏩
Czech Pilsners eh? Never had one, but I've always been a German/Belgian guy in the beer department. What would you recommend for a good starter Czech Pilsner?



Yeah the IPA trend has gotten old with me, but there are some really good ones out there.

If you ever want to give them a try I recommend Lagunitas. I think it's a very accessible IPA, and overall great tasting. Trust me on this. Let it get nice and cold and pour it into a glass.
I've tried at least a couple dozen different ones, pretty sure the Lagunitas was one of them. The hoppy flavor just doesn't agree with me. If I'm going to spend the money and calories on a proper beer I'll stick to what I know I'll enjoy instead of trying to find an IPA I dislike less than all the other IPA's I've tried.
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Originally Posted By 78novacaine⏩
How do you feel about the trend of IPA's > * with most microbreweries and hipster culture? Personally I have never tried an IPA that I actually enjoyed, just can't get past the feeling like I'm drinking a liquified 2×4. I definitely lean very heavily towards maltier flavor profiles when I want a good tasting beer.
I love ipas. I understand why so many breweries make one because they know it’s going to sell. If its made well and can change a non beer drinker into a beer drinker then I’m all for it. Hipster culture is unavoidable unfortunately lol
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Originally Posted By Voidgaze⏩
If you ever want to give them a try I recommend Lagunitas. I think it's a very accessible IPA, and overall great tasting. Trust me on this. Let it get nice and cold and pour it into a glass.
How not to get someone to like an IPA: Recommend a mass produced bottle of ass piss that falls in line with 99% of all other mass produced ass piss IPAs.

Also, Lagunitas makes quite a few IPAs.
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Originally Posted By Voidgaze⏩
Czech Pilsners eh? Never had one, but I've always been a German/Belgian guy in the beer department. What would you recommend for a good starter Czech Pilsner?



Yeah the IPA trend has gotten old with me, but there are some really good ones out there.

If you ever want to give them a try I recommend Lagunitas. I think it's a very accessible IPA, and overall great tasting. Trust me on this. Let it get nice and cold and pour it into a glass.
For Czech Pilsners I’d definitely suggest Pilsner Urquell and Czechvar. Try to get them in cans and refrigerated storage if possible. If it’s in bottles make sure they’re brown bottles. Lagunitas IPA is a fantastic widely available IPA.
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Why is American beer so shyt? Seriously, it fukn sucks.
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Originally Posted By 78novacaine⏩
I've tried at least a couple dozen different ones, pretty sure the Lagunitas was one of them. The hoppy flavor just doesn't agree with me. If I'm going to spend the money and calories on a proper beer I'll stick to what I know I'll enjoy instead of trying to find an IPA I dislike less than all the other IPA's I've tried.
I think IPAs are pretty good, but yeah its definitely become overdone and has the whole hipster thing going on (I was living on the West Coast for quite a few years until recently, so I was seeing it even more).

One thing I do kind of miss about San Diego though, is the Beer selection out there was nuts. You could go into any of your typical little corner liquor store type places, and they (even the most "ghetto" ones) would be crammed full of a big selection. They place I live now is a big city too, but its absolutely night and day when it comes to that. The selection in those types of places isn't shyt, and we certainly don't have anything like BevMo out here.
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Why is American beer so shyt? Seriously, it fukn sucks.
False. America is full of great breweries these days.
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Originally Posted By dannyg1217⏩
fuk you bro, you don't have chit on a seasoned alcoholic/ beer conissuer

Lol, at most responses are, haven't had that, haven't drank light beer. I stand by my first statement

What, just saw the ipa response. You're officially a joke, can't even elaborate on the styles and suggest the most basic of all IPAs
Lol there’s over 7,000 breweries in the states alone..and I live in Canada. I can elaborate as much as you’d like. For suggestions I have to stick to what’s widely available in the states so people can have a half decent chance at getting it.
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Originally Posted By ko300zx⏩
How not to get someone to like an IPA: Recommend a mass produced bottle of ass piss that falls in line with 99% of all other mass produced ass piss IPAs.

Also, Lagunitas makes quite a few IPAs.
To each their own, I find them enjoyable and I'm aware Lagunita's makes more than one IPA. I've always felt like there are too many "Try Hard" IPA's out there trying to be more complex than the other guy. The whole hipster culture behind it is cringe and I just couldn't give two fuks .I like Lagunitas.

Though my first choice will always be Real Ale's Full Moon IPA. Locally Brewed in Texas.

Originally Posted By MN88⏩
For Czech Pilsners I’d definitely suggest Pilsner Urquell and Czechvar. Try to get them in cans and refrigerated storage if possible. If it’s in bottles make sure they’re brown bottles. Lagunitas IPA is a fantastic widely available IPA.
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Originally Posted By A-GAME⏩
Why is American beer so shyt? Seriously, it fukn sucks.
America arguably makes the best beer in the world at the moment. However, with over 7,000 breweries not all of them are going to be world class. If you’re talking about your macro beer (coors,molson,bud) that’s a different story.
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[QUOTE=Voidgaze post_id=1605426821]Too each their own, I find them enjoyable and I'm aware Lagunita's makes more than one IPA. I've always felt like there were too many "Try Hard" IPA's out there trying to be more complex than the other guy. The whole hipster culture behind it is cringe and I just couldn't give two fuks if it's mass produced. I like Lagunitas.

Though my first choice will always be Real Ale's Full Moon IPA. Locally Brewed in Texas.

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Thank you sir.[/QUOTE]Real Ale has a Russian Imperial Stout and a Quadrupel Ale that are freaking hnnnnnnngh.
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Originally Posted By 78novacaine⏩
Real Ale has a Russian Imperial Stout and a Quadrupel Ale that are freaking hnnnnnnngh.
They're a great.

I wish they sold their White Ale in a 6 pack
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Originally Posted By ko300zx⏩
How not to get someone to like an IPA: Recommend a mass produced bottle of ass piss that falls in line with 99% of all other mass produced ass piss IPAs.

Also, Lagunitas makes quite a few IPAs.
You don’t know what you’re talking about. If you don’t like west coast IPA’s that doesn’t mean the beer is bad. Maybe you prefer east coast or new england hazy ipas or none at all. The beer that got me into craft beer was a Canadian west coast IPA similar to Dogfish Heads 60 minute IPA.
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