dont sign a contract and not pay up just LOL at plebcel getting owned for trying to shame them

I’d accept the loss, but do my societal duty to publicize this company’s behavior.

loser. was probably leeboy

That was incredibly well played.

Mirin

I think most contracts would have a death clause but thinking about this more... if the future groom and Miscer CEO signed the contract then the future bride was never a party to that agreement. Would she be affected, sure but if she did not physically sign then it would be an agreement between the two men.

All that being said it’s still stupid to not refund but as we can see this is not a legitimate operation anyways as he is likely just pocketing the cash.. and potentially frauding altogether

InB4CEO comes on to post

Lol owner has serious issues. Why wouldnt you refund a person who has given 3 months notice and his bride died? Sounds like a great guy

This all seems to have happened recently. It's still a 'new' story so it should be interesting to watch it play out, and hopefully watch some 'BuT TecHniCallY' contract pussy get decimated by the free market. Irony at it's finest.

"Check out this photo of $1800 CASH. Jelly, *******s?"

guy is a serial scammer and does not give a fuk, he'll be running a different scheme in no time

I generally dont advocate for violence but that husband should flay that ****er

Found him.

"Thanks to your non-refundable deposit, you support this website and domain.
Welcome to the interwebs you stupid ****."

DAYUMMM! Fukkin cold, man! Shiet!

holy fuk this whole thread is just lol.. and fkn lol'd hard at him changing the business name.

I can understand both sides of the argument (being a business owner myself). This whole situation could have been easily resolved in many different ways: giving the client a credit of $1800 for lets say next 2-3 years.. or giving a partial refund.. or telling the client that his money will be refunded by the end of the year (once corona is over - as all businesses are struggling).. and finally if he didn't want to refund at all.. they could have organised a phone call / face to face meeting and tried to make the client understand nicely... the CEO is a dick for behaving the way he behaved.. and the client is a dick for doing what he did (despite his circumstances)... but i guess all this is invalid now that we know this guy is a con artist and has done this to many other people in the past lol

All I can say to wedding photographers / videographers is screen your clients and chose them carefully.. its not worth the money in the long run to shoot everyones wedding because of situations like these. I've had some sh!tty clients in the past which I regretted taking on and thank god i've learnt now and I can see a sh!ty client from a mile away.

Online presence/bad reviews are CRITICAL for companies.. I understand why the guy went on the attack afterwards. It’s a terrible situation but contracts are contracts for a reason.

Even with that said I probably would’ve met the guy in the middle and gave him a 50% refund.

All these miscers LARPING behind a screen about how the guy shouldn't of tried to get a refund is beyond cringe and just pathetic.

this

Insurance (in my opinion) is for the worst case scenarios. Not over $1800. Because once you claim something from insurance your monthly premiums go up and its usually not worth it in the long run over an amount like $1800.

You are full on LARPING about being an edgelord scumbag if you wouldn't give someone a wedding refund over their fiance dying with 3 months notice, especially over $1800.
If you are actually srs, not sure how you can be the one calling others a dumb kunt when a simple risk-benefit analysis would clearly show just to give the refund.

wow yea thats phucked. Hope the guy drowns into bankruptcy

Hey OP, has this guy titled himself a CEO or is that something you just threw in for the thread?

Want to know if I can have a chuckle @ him being a “CEO” of a chitty little photography company that was ruined by one random dude calling a radio station in Colorado Springs

I figured he's for sure a miscer, and as a miscer, we're all CEO $10k/day status up in this bitch. Poorcels can GTFO.

Haha makes sense breh

you can't be serious. Do you know how businesses work? Especially small businesses? if someone has their fiancé die, 9.99999/10 small businesses are going to refund them everything because 1) thats a horrible tragedy 2) they didn't actually do anything to warrant receiving money 3) doing this in good faith will make others more inclined to work with you

There are two fights here;

1st - There is a legally binding contract with no-refund policy attached to it. The Business can, and if taken to court, not only keep the money but they will sue the was-to-be-a-husband for reputation damage.

2nd- Three months notice is far more than enough, but again if the husband signed the contract with no refund then it means no refund. So we have the moral fight. Doing whats right by the business.


If this goes to court, the husband is fuked beyond repair not only he wont take his money back but he will be charged for reputation damage and legal expenses unless he hires a good lawyer and manages to find a case that would force the company to refund and cover legal expenses.

If this was my business, I would have refunded the money even with the no-refund contract. It is just not worth all the hassle.

it also means his fiance died, so there's no bride.. so there's no wedding

there has to be some type of clause that nulls a contract for a wedding photographer for a non-existent wedding

this guy must not have money to put his reputation and business on the line over 1800

yea I mean I just don't get it. as a business owner, this is where you act compassionately. I've worked for and owned a few small businesses and can't imagine this

Even if the guy wasn't entitled a refund, I would have given one to him. I mean his fiance just died, what am I gonna gain as a business owner and as a person by doing all this

i would have to imagine he would lose in court. yea it says non-refundable but it seems like payment for a future service. and the future service now doesn't exist

so, the guy paid for a service he never received. i don't see why people would have to part money for things they never received

im pretty positive it would be easy to paint him as a scammer and a thief

edit: AND i would imagine any judge that were to take this on already doesn't like the dude. so you can prob throw in the "libel, slander, reputation damage, emotional damages, etc.," on here as well and get to some HEAVY $$

Contracts become invalid due to acts of God, death, circumstances not stated in the contract all the time. Contracts aren't above law so you can't say for certain he's "fukked."

And reporting the truth isn't EVER defamation.

I am certain he will be fuked. The business's legal defense can argue that a wedding can still be made and the service can be rendered even after his wife's death as there has been many reported cases of solo-weddings which effectively means it can still happen but he chooses to cancel the wedding meaning he voided the contract.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IN4WCrN7vrM

I.e. he can still marry himself and did not need to cancel the wedding ceremony.

You need to revisit what defamation means:https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/defamation

Again, it will all depends on how good the lawyers are really, it always has been.