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post 1606061981 05-28-2020, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted By z4v4
Are you not bright enough to realize that riots lead to possible immediate death?

Lol @ the mentality that people should be saying, "Zmog!! They're not social distancing!!!!" Dunce.
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post 1606062201 05-28-2020, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted By AriGhold
Do you think it’s weird how this thread is significantly longer than any thread on his actual death? How quickly this section was to dismiss that as a simple case of a bad actor yet this thread has been fuel for racists to project the actions of a small minority onto a group of people as a whole? Why do you think that is?
What's there to discuss about the death? Anyone who has seen the video knows it's murder and police brutality. Everybody agrees the cop should be punished. It's a forum, what more is there to discuss about it? Do you want 200 people to post "yeah it's murder, bad stuff!" or something?
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Originally Posted By Barteh
What's there to discuss about the death? Anyone who has seen the video knows it's murder and police brutality. Everybody agrees the cop should be punished. It's a forum, what more is there to discuss about it? Do you want 200 people to post "yeah it's murder, bad stuff!" or something?
What’s there to discuss here? Looting is bad.
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Originally Posted By AriGhold
Do you think it’s weird how this thread is significantly longer than any thread on his actual death? How quickly this section was to dismiss that as a simple case of a bad actor yet this thread has been fuel for racists to project the actions of a small minority onto a group of people as a whole? Why do you think that is?
Because everyone on here as said it’s murder. Do you want a 20 page thread of all of us agreeing?
This thread you have people making excuses for the looters. I don’t see anyone making excuses for the cop

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post 1606062521 05-28-2020, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted By AriGhold
Do you think it’s weird how this thread is significantly longer than any thread on his actual death? How quickly this section was to dismiss that as a simple case of a bad actor yet this thread has been fuel for racists to project the actions of a small minority onto a group of people as a whole? Why do you think that is?
To be fair there is a 34+ page thread on his death on regular misc so it's not as if people here don't care.
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post 1606062851 05-28-2020, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted By AriGhold
What’s there to discuss here? Looting is bad.
Good point as well I guess.

I guess a more valid discussion point would be the media's and politicians' role in creating the division and how to solve the whole racial divide situation. Then you could get to an actual discussion where maybe not every is aware or agrees.
post 1606063021 05-28-2020, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted By AriGhold
Do you think it’s weird how this thread is significantly longer than any thread on his actual death?
The death thread is 33 pages and this one is 11. I know I'm on that poverty 25 posts per page time
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post 1606063361 05-28-2020, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted By Abzu
No, sir but I do believe people should be angry that they no longer have the right to defend themselves in Illinois. You support gutting the 2nd? I also think people should be angry about illegal searches. You support gutting the 4th? This isnt a race issue for me, it's an equal protection under the law issue for me. Equal protection is the 14th amendment by the way. Should we gut it?
Seems Postmortem doesn't want to discuss this any further but I'll carry on with my stupidity in his absence. The founders of this country believed a lack of liberty to be worse than death, using their logic, the police kill the People people every time they're denied their rights.
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Originally Posted By rectifryer
I don't know what is up with the right's need to incessantly defend clearly indefensible actions on part of police but rioting makes no sense. Stealing from your community makes no sense. It just shows the nation how belligerent a community is, and reinforces the actions of the police for the sake of credibility.To everyone else in the country, it just looks like two ass hole cultures standing off.

The fact of the matter is none of it is defensible. I'm not saying that to meet in the middle. The cops fukk up regularly, and ghettos are starting to riot again.
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Bad cops are a growing problem who should be held accountable when they do bad and more than they are now, and who bring bad things upon themselves when they are not held accountable.

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The poor black communities in this country and in every other place on Earth are decrepit and it's no one's fault but their own. They are the only ones to blame and the only ones who can better themselves. The excuses blaming others are not reality. Until they collectively realize this and start acting on it, then nothing will change.
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Originally Posted By AriGhold
Do you think it’s weird how this thread is significantly longer than any thread on his actual death? How quickly this section was to dismiss that as a simple case of a bad actor yet this thread has been fuel for racists to project the actions of a small minority onto a group of people as a whole? Why do you think that is?
Do you have any idea how many interactions between the police and black people happen daily? These interactions that turn deadly are very rare relatively and that's why they get so much attention. Black people are definitely stereotyped regarding crime but statistics back that up especially violent crime. It gets pointed out that it's the same fruitless reaction over and over. Black person dies at that hands of law enforcement even if it's a black cop and everyone screams racism and then then they loot their neighborhoods rinse repeat every few months.
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post 1606063621 05-28-2020, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted By Barteh
Good point as well I guess.

I guess a more valid discussion point would be the media's and politicians' role in creating the division and how to solve the whole racial divide situation. Then you could get to an actual discussion where maybe not every is aware or agrees.
The People have to first allow the media and politicians to divide them. You don't have to hate your fellow American, and by extension, hate yourself if you don't want to.
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post 1606063851 05-28-2020, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted By LukeLissen
bingo


Bad cops are a problem who should be held accountable when they do bad and more than they are, and who bring bad things upon themselves when they do not.

and

The poor black communities in this country and in every other place on Earth are decrepit and it's no one's fault but their own. They are the only ones to blame and the only ones who can better themselves. The excuses blaming others are not reality. Until they collectively realize this and start acting on it, then nothing will change.
The sad thing is during the civil rights movement there was so much pride and then everything went to ****. I honestly haven't studied the demise of black communities in the US that much but from what I've seen it definitely seemed orchestrated.
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Originally Posted By rectifryer
I don't know what is up with the right's need to incessantly defend clearly indefensible actions on part of police but rioting makes no sense. Stealing from your community makes no sense. It just shows the nation how belligerent a community is, and reinforces the actions of the police for the sake of credibility. To everyone else in the country, it just looks like two ass hole cultures standing off.

The fact of the matter is none of it is defensible. I'm not saying that to meet in the middle. The cops fukk up regularly, and ghettos are starting to riot again.
A lot of Trump supporters recognize the corruption of the FBI, CIA, the DOJ and every other corrupt "law enforcement" organization that violates the rights of the People. They mostly just defend Trump though. These institution violate the rights of We the People incessantly and some of the People defend it, those people are already dead inside though.
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post 1606064921 05-28-2020, 11:00 AM
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What a great way to honor George, a good man who openly preached against everything these kids are now doing.
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Originally Posted By BigRangs
"Ayo G, you see that dude that got killed by the cops yesterday?"
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No idea why people think you’re racist
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Originally Posted By AriGhold
No idea why people think you’re racist
How do you imagine the conversations go?
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Originally Posted By BigRangs
How do you imagine the conversations go?
Ayo meet at Walmart?
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Originally Posted By z4v4
ITT, one cop choking out a black dude = one bad apple; one black person saying "shoot the white folks" = all black people
I’d say if you did the stats on race at that riot last night, majority would be of color. I’m talking 85%+. Everyone of them would agree with that low life.
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Originally Posted By DeshaunWatson
I’d say if you did the stats on race at that riot last night, majority would be of color. I’m talking 85%+. Everyone of them would agree with that low life.
And so the actions of those who took part in looting/rioting should be used to comment on race as a whole or not?
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Originally Posted By AriGhold
And so the actions of those who took part in looting/rioting should be used to comment on race as a whole or not?
Of course not, but excusing their actions (as a few have tried to do in here)simply because they are black is pretty much doing just that.
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Originally Posted By AriGhold
And so the actions of those who took part in looting/rioting should be used to comment on race as a whole or not?
What about violent crime stats that have been true for our entire lives?
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Originally Posted By AriGhold
And so the actions of those who took part in looting/rioting should be used to comment on race as a whole or not?
Should the actions of one cop be used to condemn not only all cops but all white people as well?
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Handicapped woman in a fuking wheel chair assaulted.

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Originally Posted By AriGhold
What’s there to discuss here? Looting is bad.
What’s there to riot over? Killing a helpless human being is bad.
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster
Handicapped woman in a fuking wheel chair assaulted.

Wasn't handicapped, stayed around the protest for HOURS until about 1-2am walking around yelling at people, apparently was stabbing people as they were leaving Target
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Originally Posted By Jaydawg08
Wasn't handicapped, stayed around the protest for HOURS until about 1-2am walking around yelling at people, apparently was stabbing people as they were leaving Target
I keep hearing this but have yet to see proof of her stabbing people.
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Originally Posted By z4v4
People in poor areas are poor. A small percentage of poor people steal. A large percentage, of that small percentage who steal, will loot when the opportunity arises. They are not actually protesting the death by stealing; they are just stealing.
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Originally Posted By ohiostate124
Should the actions of one cop be used to condemn not only all cops but all white people as well?
If you have 100 good cops and 10 bad cops... but the 100 good cops "protect" those 10 bad cops internally

You now have 110 bad cops
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Originally Posted By Jaydawg08
If you have 100 good cops and 100 bad cops... but the 100 good cops "protect" those 10 bad cops internally

You now have 110 bad cops
Strong math
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