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post 1607102311 06-07-2020, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted By Voidgaze⏩
I'm all for being positive but we all know Chad is a general term for an attractive white guy.
Chad, Chang, Tyrone, Felipe, Raj, they all mean the same thing
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Originally Posted By ForPeteSake⏩
I get a chad is white but in my post im using it as an umbrella term for people of all races that get laid.
Originally Posted By BigDeeps01⏩
Chad, Chang, Tyrone, Felipe, Raj, they all mean the same thing
Yeah yeah. I get it, I really do.

My point was in response to Tomohokk.

Loving and accepting yourself =/= Chad. The term is based on looks, and we should really stop pretending like it's not.


As I said, I'm all for being positive, but also be realistic. Life isn't a romantic comedy.
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Originally Posted By Voidgaze⏩
Yeah yeah. I get it, I really do.

My point was in response to Tomohokk.
I know we all know just figured I'd make a statement so race-baiters dont derail the thread.
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post 1607103561 06-07-2020, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted By ForPeteSake⏩
I know we all know just figured I'd make a statement so race-baiters dont derail the thread.
That's fair.

I'll say no more because I was bringing it off topic too.
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Originally Posted By dogorman7⏩
I really want to rep but cliffs ?
Cliffs:
-Statistics don't matter when finding love.
-Men and women dont actually know what they want.
-Casual sex is not the goal.
-Get your shiet together and bet on love at first sight.
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post 1607104611 06-07-2020, 02:50 PM
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Appreciate the effort OP, but i feel like it is dangerously swimming in tl;dr territory. Actually, it is drowning in tl;dr waters lol

My short take: You want an attractive female? Looks are now more important than EVER, because monogamy its slowly getting exiled from society day by day. Marriage and religion have taken the passenger seat now, if not the bus home lol.

In short, be the best version of yourself you can possibly be. Max out every area to the best of your abilities, reach your potential. Its going to be really hard, but its doable. I hope i could tell people that life is a fairy tale and that believing in themselves and trusting in the universe would make them happy but no, you have to work hard.

Looks max, intelectmax, dressmax, socialmax, workmax. Attack every angle and own it. People can choose to LDAR of course and still somehow find the love of their life tomorrow at starbucks, but thats extremely unlikely, if you want to increase the odds of you being happy first you gotta be happy with your ownself and becoming the best person you can be will do that for you. After that, the doors will open.
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post 1607105731 06-07-2020, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted By Ken-O⏩
Appreciate the effort OP, but i feel like it is dangerously swimming in tl;dr territory. Actually, it is drowning in tl;dr waters lol
Yeah I know, it's more for organizing my thoughts for myself than anything else.

Sucks that people don't have the attention span to read things. Complex issues have complex solutions. You can narrow them down to a sentence but you'll skimp out on the details that prove it. Otherwise I would have just said "Get your **** together and chase that love at first sight feeling". Id get tons of questions instead of answering them in the OP. Would be good for keeping the thread alive but it would never get deep enough to the roots of the issue.
My short take: You want an attractive female? Looks are now more important than EVER, because monogamy its slowly getting exiled from society day by day. Marriage and religion have taken the passenger seat now, if not the bus home lol.

In short, be the best version of yourself you can possibly be. Max out every area to the best of your abilities, reach your potential. Its going to be really hard, but its doable. I hope i could tell people that life is a fairy tale and that believing in themselves and trusting in the universe would make them happy but no, you have to work hard.

Looks max, intelectmax, dressmax, socialmax, workmax. Attack every angle and own it. People can choose to LDAR of course and still somehow find the love of their life tomorrow at starbucks, but thats extremely unlikely, if you want to increase the odds of you being happy first you gotta be happy with your ownself and becoming the best person you can be will do that for you. After that, the doors will open.
I think there's something pusssy about being too anal about everything maxing. Following the love at first sight feeling will beat out any kind of looksmaxing for a genuine, happy long lasting relationship. That's not to say you shouldnt continue to put effort into every area of your life. That's one of things you need to do to maintain that love feeling in the relationship.
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post 1607105981 06-07-2020, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
inb4 "nothing works"
Yeep. Follow the logic route and you're gonna have a hard time finding love. If you wanna everything max youre just going to attract other gay men. Women like to dance, not be walked up to just because the dude finally has enough courage after looksmaxing.

It'll work for casual sex but that's about it. Even then its cringey.
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post 1607106081 06-07-2020, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted By ForPeteSake⏩
Cliffs:
-Statistics don't matter when finding love.
-Men and women dont actually know what they want.
-Casual sex is not the goal.
-Get your shiet together and bet on love at first sight.
I can’t recommend serious relationships for the modern guy despite knowing first hand how empty hooking up feels unless you have a fwb you click with.

I agree with your other point though , love at first sight is a very real thing. You either feel that attraction or not.

That’s why the whole “friends at first” thing is bull****.

Problem is you either make a women wet or not , no inbetween.

The best a above average guy can hope for is a hambeast to settle for him.

While on the other hand chad or model dudes give majority of women those tingles.

You can’t make a women like you with personality alone though it’s more important for keeping someone around than misc thinks.
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good thread, reasons why the misc is not dead yet.
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Originally Posted By ForPeteSake⏩
Yeep. Follow the logic route and you're gonna have a hard time finding love.If you wanna everything max youre just going to attract other gay men. Women like to dance, not be walked up to just because the dude finally has enough courage after looksmaxing.

It'll work for casual sex but that's about it. Even then its cringey.
Not really sure what you mean with this lol, or the logic behind it. You can attract attractive females AND gay dudes at the same time, and also you can looks max AND not be a retard that doesnt know how to act around women. Weird correlation there.

Looks max is only a part of it, i mentioned in my post that as a man you should aim to improve in every area you can. Taking care of yourself in every area is a sign of self-love which in turn translates into a healthier mind, which will naturally attract other healthy minded and beautiful women which is what men want.

Id say emotional intelligence and self-awareness goes toe to toe with looks when trying to find a connection with an attractive female. You cant just ignore a huge area of opportunity like looks and claim to be doing the best you cant to attract females though.
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Originally Posted By Ken-O⏩
Not really sure what you mean with this lol, or the logic behind it. You can attract attractive females AND gay dudes at the same time, and also you can looks max AND not be a retard that doesnt know how to act around women. Weird correlation there.
Or to make it more clear,
I am against the looksmaxing movement because it ties into the whole pick up culture thing. Feels like dudes are making fake personas that fall apart when judged by a chick looking for a genuine connection.

That's not to say people aren't growing as people, just overall it puts a bad taste in my mouth.


I shoulda left out the gay dudes part. Feel like gay dudes are attracted to ideas more than genuine feelings. Dont wanna derail the thread.
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post 1607107171 06-07-2020, 03:21 PM
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I should have just taken the Blue Pill originally.

Fuk you Morpheus.
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Originally Posted By ForPeteSake⏩
Or to make it more clear,

I am against the looksmaxing movement because it ties into the whole pick up culture thing.Feels like dudes are making fake personas that fall apart when judged by a chick looking for a genuine connection.
Which is why you should work in all areas, not just looks like i said in my original post. A self-aware emotionally stable attractive guy will have an easier time finding love than a self-aware emotionally stable average looking dude.

Again, im not saying your take on the situation is wrong, im just adding to it a bit. We cant neglect looks, its a key factor, it has always been and will always be. Also how a man looks and takes care of himself is a reflection of his own self-steem, which is a huge turn on for women as well.

My advice to any male struggling with women: Improve in every area you can to the best of your ability. Shocking right? Moon lands on namek kind of statement i know, but its one thing saying it and its a whole different thing doing it. Anyone that has gone trough radical self-growth like that will be able to tell you how much it improved their life not just with women but in general.
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Originally Posted By Suit⏩
I should have just taken the Blue Pill originally.

Fuk you Morpheus.
Crazy how the blue pill is the real answer when it comes to dating (and maybe other things and by blue pill I mean going with your feelings on things without diving into the logic side of things).

Logic/the devil destroys everything.. takes too long to put things back together.
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Originally Posted By DizzySmalls⏩
OP chadsplaining the day away
Mm-hmm.
I'm an ex-chad. No humble brag, but I don't have any insecurities and never had issues with chicks. 6'2, chad skull, confident, strong shlong, talented, creative, pretty well read, etc. Went through a disgusting casual sex fad and once it ended I've been obsessed with figuring out the architecture of what sets up an environment to finding true love and making that love last<3
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Makes alot of sense honestly.

Sometimes the dating scene gets me down. I don't even do e-dating but I still get pessimistic as fuk about it all. I went from being a guy who craves deep monogamous LTRs to getting apathetic af about intimacy and just wanting to smash and dash.

I get this feeling that most girls now don't expect or really want to meet guys out and about anymore, because it's been consolidated into apps. People schedule it in their day or use it as a crutch when they're lonely/horny.

Work on yourself tho, I always support that
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Originally Posted By FA*******⏩
I've made 100K this year by working hard at my dad's business!"
lol'd. im not saying that is in regard to op

but that's why you have to take everything with a grain of salt. there's 0 chance if somebody were like that they'd ever admit to it on here. all the stories would be carefully constructed around that point

like my friend almost failing out of college but his dad from princeton got him a job at the place he worked at
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I'm not really sure how I could apply this to me. Nobody is ever interested in me, and of those 5 pillars, the ones that I can actually somewhat control(jobs and hobbies) I'm already doing fine in those. I cannot do anything about family or relationships.
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Originally Posted By FA*******⏩
Mm-hmm.



BRB "it's easier than ever to make money right now! I've made 100K this year by working hard at my dad's business!"
There's this miscer: sleepwithfan I think, who posts about being a drug addict, then working for his dad's business, then says that it's all about hard work and thinking positive, SRS, LOL.
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<— knows it’s place and agrees op, good luck with your girl, make lots of babies
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Originally Posted By mobp⏩
There's this miscer: sleepwithfan I think, who posts about being a drug addict, then working for his dad's business, then says that it's all about hard work and thinking positive, SRS, LOL.
LMAO i remember that thread. Dude was so proud and thought he had the key to being happy. I mean props to him for getting his **** together and takind advantages of his opportunities, but still he was a bit deluded.

On top of that he was a lowkey Chad lmao, not only the rich parents giving him the job at their business and paying for his housing and ****
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Originally Posted By Ken-O⏩
LMAO i remember that thread. Dude was so proud and thought he had the key to being happy. I mean props to him for getting his **** together and takind advantages of his opportunities, but still he was a bit deluded.

On top of that he was a lowkey Chad lmao, not only the rich parents giving him the job at their business and paying for his housing and ****
Last I heard he's banging some hot 30 year old mom.

She lets him play Xbox on her couch while she cooks and cleans then fuks him when she finishes.

Sounds like a pretty good time tbh.
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Originally Posted By Voidgaze⏩
Last I heard he's banging some hot 30 year old mom.

She lets him play Xbox on her couch while she cooks and cleans then fuks him when she finishes.

Sounds like a pretty good time tbh.
30 year old mom? Thats a teen girl for 2020 standards, dude is doing amazing lmao. Hard work paying off
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As a brah who tends to write long posts, I can appreciate when somebody else spends some additional time to flesh out their thoughts and goes the extra mile.

There are a lot of things in your post that I agree with.
You can only get sex, domestic comfort, and children from women.I'd agree that it's something like that. You can take that a step further, most people can only provide very specific things... You will find that interaction with them will yield very specific results, and thinking that you're going to get anything different by switching them around is a bit silly. You might get a different flavor, but it's still the same thing in the end.

More sex does not always equate to better.This is something I have been stressing to incels for a while. In fact, I'm going to use it to move on to the reason why I'm posting ITT in the first place.

I don't think that what incels want is sex specifically.What they want is to be desired. They want to feel as though they are worthy of somebody else'sdesire. That's why when the fuk prostitutes it doesn't feel the same; because there's no desire there. Because they wouldn't have fukked them if they didn't have the money.
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after reading the whole thread, i've come to the conclusion that i'm still ugly and unwanted by 99% of the women i'm attracted to. Thanks though OP.
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Originally Posted By TypeNirvash⏩
As a brah who tends to write long posts, I can appreciate when somebody else spends some additional time to flesh out their thoughts and goes the extra mile.

There are a lot of things in your post that I agree with.
You can only get sex, domestic comfort, and children from women.I'd agree that it's something like that. You can take that a step further, most people can only provide very specific things... You will find that interaction with them will yield very specific results, and thinking that you're going to get anything different by switching them around is a bit silly. You might get a different flavor, but it's still the same thing in the end.

More sex does not always equate to better.This is something I have been stressing to incels for a while. In fact, I'm going to use it to move on to the reason why I'm posting ITT in the first place.

I don't think that what incels want is sex specifically.What they want is to be desired. They want to feel as though they are worthy of somebody else'sdesire. That's why when the fuk prostitutes it doesn't feel the same; because there's no desire there. Because they wouldn't have fukked them if they didn't have the money.
OP put effort on his post and thats good, but when trying to give a message one should know their audience. Hes talking to already frustrated and low confidence people who are not exactly strong willed individuals. OP is a former Chad giving them a 12 paragraph read about the "5 pillars" and "love at first sight" thingy and they instantly go "no thanks jeff".


You gotta be blunt and direct with incels and unsuccesfull-with-women males. You want the girl? Get off your ass and do something about it or die alone and miserable, your choice.

Women like good looking guys - fact
Women like confident guys - fact
Women find intelligence and high culture attractive - fact
Women find socially adept guys attractive - fact
Women find money attractive - fact

You want to maximize the odds of getting a high value woman? Become a high value man. As simple as that.
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
If that is the case...

Why is every single one of them fixated in Tinder?

Wrong place to look for someone who wants "more than sex".
I don't think they understand that it's more than the sex.

I mean, think about it... If that's all they needed, why don't the brahs who bang prostitutes come back satisfied, and well adjusted individuals who no longer self-identity as incel?
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Originally Posted By Ken-O⏩
OP put effort on his post and thats good, but when trying to give a message one should know their audience. Hes talking to already frustrated and low confidence people who are not exactly strong willed individuals. OP is a former Chad giving them a 12 paragraph read about the "5 pillars" and "love at first sight" thingy and they instantly go "no thanks jeff".


You gotta be blunt and direct with incels and unsuccesfull-with-women males. You want the girl? Get off your ass and do something about it or die alone and miserable, your choice.

Women like good looking guys - fact
Women like confident guys - fact
Women find intelligence and high culture attractive - fact
Women find socially adept guys attractive - fact
Women find money attractive - fact

You want to maximize the odds of getting a high value woman? Become a high value man. As simple as that.
Too short, or too long. Take it from me as somebody who has spent a lot of time trying to discuss inceldom with people who self-identity as incels... It doesn't matter how much or how little you write.

It's not going to hit the mark unless some part of your post resonates with them. Even if a part of it resonates, it won't stick it the mouthpiece is a good looking white brah.

Your last sentiment about becoming high value is what I and many others constantly propose. Often you are met with a resounding: "Why should I have to become Superman just to have X/Y/Z."

I get it. I do. OP went in a direction that is slightly less tried and true and we really should be encouraging that it we can. Even if it is a bit lengthy.

But you, me, and OP are good looking white brahs and I promise that regardless of what we say it will not be received well specifically for that reason.
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
We've tried this approach ad nauseam in past threads. The answer is always a resounding "nothing works" and "I've tried everything".

Self fulfilling prophecy.
Some people's ceiling may be extremely low though, you never now. A 3/10 male improving in every area can maybe become a 6/10 if lucky, but still invisible for attractive women. I do think that for most guys, there is hope.

Most guys are clueless though they have self-awareness at all. "Im trying everything to be better looking!", then you see a pic of them and they have a neckbeard and the most horrible glasses lmao.
"The flowers bloom, then wither... The stars shine and one day become extinct. This earth, the sun, the galaxies and even the big universe, someday will be destroyed. Compared with that, the human life is only a blink, just a little time. In that short time - people are born, laugh, cry, fight, are injured, feel joy, sadness, hate someone, love someone. All in just a moment. And then, are embraced by the eternal sleep called death."
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