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12-21-2019, 03:45 PM
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For those still learning a language, just found a slick google plugin called "Language Learning with Netflix". You can download it to Chrome and it integrates with Netflix subtitle tracks when you watch through the browser on your desktop or laptop. Features include:
1. Slow down audio without pitch shifting (.7, .8, .9 speed)
2. Auto pause movie after each subtitle line so you can digest what has been said without the movie/show continuing
3. pause/go back one/repeat/go forward one (for each subtitle line, hotkey enabled)
4. can have live translation to english under target language subtitle
5. ability to click on subtitles and receive a popup translation. Also has a way to integrate with other online translators.
6. can save words you look up (pro feature, i believe it costs something)
Its great for training and improving your ear. Wish it was around when I first started learning languages.
1. Slow down audio without pitch shifting (.7, .8, .9 speed)
2. Auto pause movie after each subtitle line so you can digest what has been said without the movie/show continuing
3. pause/go back one/repeat/go forward one (for each subtitle line, hotkey enabled)
4. can have live translation to english under target language subtitle
5. ability to click on subtitles and receive a popup translation. Also has a way to integrate with other online translators.
6. can save words you look up (pro feature, i believe it costs something)
Its great for training and improving your ear. Wish it was around when I first started learning languages.
06-11-2020, 09:23 PM
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Anyone have any spanish youtube channels that they follow, either vlogger or for general content in spanish. Have been watching lots of spanish instructional videos but these are getting a bit boring. Would like some lighter content for taking breaks.
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Originally Posted By TwoHumpChump⏩
I'm almost fluent in spanish after 2 years of learning. AMA about it. You need to watch native level material, even if you don't understand to get better.Anyone have any spanish youtube channels that they follow, either vlogger or for general content in spanish. Have been watching lots of spanish instructional videos but these are getting a bit boring. Would like some lighter content for taking breaks.
For some good channels: Dreaming Spanish, and Espanol Con Juan.
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Originally Posted By KingofLifts⏩
Thanks I'll watch some more of Espanol Con Juan. I've only watched one of his videos where he interviews a chick. He speaks very clearly, which helps understanding. I will try Dreaming Spanish as well.I'm almost fluent in spanish after 2 years of learning. AMA about it. You need to watch native level material, even if you don't understand to get better.
For some good channels: Dreaming Spanish, and Espanol Con Juan.
For some good channels: Dreaming Spanish, and Espanol Con Juan.
I have a few questions:
-I have been watching some of the "Easy Spanish" channel on youtube as they have subtitles in Spanish (and english underneath, which I only look at if I don't understand anything). Do you think it's a good idea to watch with Spanish subtitles?
-If you had ~6 hours per day to study how would you split that up (memorizing vocab vs youtube lessons (grammar) vs watching spanish youtube content)?
-How do you get speaking practice in?
06-11-2020, 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted By TwoHumpChump⏩
1. I never used subtitles, and wouldn't recommend it unless you want "reading practice." When you read your brain switches it attention away from listening to the words. Listening improves subconciously, but you need to be paying attention and trying to understand the words.Thanks I'll watch some more of Espanol Con Juan. I've only watched one of his videos where he interviews a chick. He speaks very clearly, which helps understanding. I will try Dreaming Spanish as well.
I have a few questions:
-I have been watching some of the "Easy Spanish" channel on youtube as they have subtitles in Spanish (and english underneath, which I only look at if I don't understand anything). Do you think it's a good idea to watch with Spanish subtitles?
-If you had ~6 hours per day to study how would you split that up (memorizing vocab vs youtube lessons (grammar) vs watching spanish youtube content)?
-How do you get speaking practice in?
I have a few questions:
-I have been watching some of the "Easy Spanish" channel on youtube as they have subtitles in Spanish (and english underneath, which I only look at if I don't understand anything). Do you think it's a good idea to watch with Spanish subtitles?
-If you had ~6 hours per day to study how would you split that up (memorizing vocab vs youtube lessons (grammar) vs watching spanish youtube content)?
-How do you get speaking practice in?
2.If I had 6 hours a day, I'd watch media for 5 hours, and read novels for 1 hour. Grammar practice isn't as helpful as you might think.
3. You can speak with people on Hellotalk or Tandem for free.
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Originally Posted By KingofLifts⏩
Okay will watch more and use subtitles less. When watching something, did/do you pause and look up words you don't understand?1. I never used subtitles, and wouldn't recommend it unless you want "reading practice." When you read your brain switches it attention away from listening to the words. Listening improves subconciously, but you need to be paying attention and trying to understand the words.
2.If I had 6 hours a day, I'd watch media for 5 hours, and read novels for 1 hour. Grammar practice isn't as helpful as you might think.
3. You can speak with people on Hellotalk or Tandem for free.
2.If I had 6 hours a day, I'd watch media for 5 hours, and read novels for 1 hour. Grammar practice isn't as helpful as you might think.
3. You can speak with people on Hellotalk or Tandem for free.
06-12-2020, 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted By TwoHumpChump⏩
I normally didn't. Sometimes I would, if I kept hearing it and it bothered me. Don't feel obliged to look up words, it'll ruin the flow of your immersion. You can use anki (free program) to use help you remember words. There's pre-made decks from other users on there with sentence banks of 10,000+ plus. You can use that to learn words you've never seen before. From there, just go and try and find those words in the wild (immersion).Okay will watch more and use subtitles less. When watching something, did/do you pause and look up words you don't understand?
It's a process, but it doesn't take insane amounts of time to learn. I've probably spent around 500-600 hours total just watching media..
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I use this as tinder when I go to Ukraine srs... lots of HBB slavic women wanting to practice linguistics nawm sayin. You should see my inbox, you’d think I was a rich 6’2” Chad drinking orange juice every morning. Worth every penny, plus the app is 10/10 and blows anything else out of the water in terms of functionalityThere's an app called Hello Talk that's excellent for finding language partners
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Been learning Japanese for the last 9 months or so..
It's been going quite well but takes up a ton of time.
But since the gym is still closed I've diverted all my training hours into Japanese.
Anyways having to learn over 2000 Kanji characters to have even a low ability of reading is the real pain. So far I'm up to 1100 or so. Hope to be done by December with the basic 2136 characters. Ofc there are more but I can pick those up as I go.
As for general language acquisition I'm learning mostly through immersion. Trying to get at least 2 hours of watching Japanese anime, drama or youtube. I try to listen to podcasts whenever I can like while driving or at work.
I'm watching drama and anime with Japanese subtitles (NOT english) so it helps my reading ability as well.
As far as acquiring new vocab I'm using the program anki. I create about 10 flashcards a day with sentences I come across in the stuff I watch. I also went through 2 pre-made decks which gave me around 2000 basic vocab.
All in all I know around 3000 words so far.
Not really concentrating on outputting (as in speaking or writing) at the moment. Just working on comprehension.
So yeah spending almost 3hours a day on it.. Which is fine and dandy with the gym closed but once I get back to training I'll have to reign it in somehow.. lol
It's been going quite well but takes up a ton of time.
But since the gym is still closed I've diverted all my training hours into Japanese.
Anyways having to learn over 2000 Kanji characters to have even a low ability of reading is the real pain. So far I'm up to 1100 or so. Hope to be done by December with the basic 2136 characters. Ofc there are more but I can pick those up as I go.
As for general language acquisition I'm learning mostly through immersion. Trying to get at least 2 hours of watching Japanese anime, drama or youtube. I try to listen to podcasts whenever I can like while driving or at work.
I'm watching drama and anime with Japanese subtitles (NOT english) so it helps my reading ability as well.
As far as acquiring new vocab I'm using the program anki. I create about 10 flashcards a day with sentences I come across in the stuff I watch. I also went through 2 pre-made decks which gave me around 2000 basic vocab.
All in all I know around 3000 words so far.
Not really concentrating on outputting (as in speaking or writing) at the moment. Just working on comprehension.
So yeah spending almost 3hours a day on it.. Which is fine and dandy with the gym closed but once I get back to training I'll have to reign it in somehow.. lol
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06-12-2020, 06:38 AM
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Forgot about this thread. Damn stay at home order has made me lazy with studying.
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Originally Posted By TwoHumpChump⏩
-If you had ~6 hours per day to study how would you split that up (memorizing vocab vs youtube lessons (grammar) vs watching spanish youtube content)?
Originally Posted By KingofLifts⏩
You're spot on about the grammar practice not being that helpful, but i'd definitely modify the 5 hours of media and 1 hour of reading.2.If I had 6 hours a day, I'd watch media for 5 hours, and read novels for 1 hour. Grammar practice isn't as helpful as you might think.
If we're honest, after 1 hour of media (If not 30 minutes) you're going to go from active listening, to passive listening which does nothing for helping one absorb the sounds.
So I'd do an hour of media, followed by 30 minutes of talking about what i just watched in the target language. It could be to myself or someone else. Whenever you hit a wall when trying to describe something (this is usually the past tense, future tense, or conditional of "they") I'd write that down then begin studying that tense. I'd watch another hour then try using that tense again.
Just irks me when people try to study languages and 90% of what they're doing is listening and reading chit, then you ask them to talk and they're tongue tied as fuk which practically the entire point of learning a language. I taught myself french 4ish years ago, and ended up living in Paris for over a year so i'm not ranting without practical experience.
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06-12-2020, 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted By W1LLW⏩
This...I was wondering if there were places to chat in different languages. I can do pretty well reading and comprehending Spanish, but go to speak it, or write and I crash and burn. So helpful when you are actually in a country where it is used. I got so far with German and French when I was physically there.Just irks me when people try to study languages and 90% of what they're doing is listening and reading chit, then you ask them to talk and they're tongue tied as fuk which practically the entire point of learning a language. I taught myself french 4ish years ago, and ended up living in Paris for over a year so i'm not ranting without practical experience.
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Really happy to see this bump. I stuck with my spanish studies and visited Costa Rica & Panama back in Feb before the lockdowns. I'm sure the taxi drivers and waiters were just being polite (or angling for a good tip) but it felt great to be told that I speak spanish well.
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You live in the Chicago area. There's bert-jillions of opportunities for spanish (if that's the one you're interested in) in terms of face to face opportunities. At least before covid, so maybe it'll open again soon. There's like 7 or 8 "language schools" you can hit up, some for like $99 for 3 month periods even. When I lived there I took "continuing education" night classes at the community college, where its almost all vocal practice.This...I was wondering if there were places to chat in different languages. I can do pretty well reading and comprehending Spanish, but go to speak it, or write and I crash and burn. So helpful when you are actually in a country where it is used. I got so far with German and French when I was physically there.
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Originally Posted By damlurker550⏩
Nice! I was super lazy when our shutdown started, but for the past couple of weeks I've got the momentum back and spend a good chunk of the day "studying".So yeah spending almost 3hours a day on it.. Which is fine and dandy with the gym closed but once I get back to training I'll have to reign it in somehow.. lol
Originally Posted By W1LLW⏩
I think you make really good points. I found that I can really only focus well for 20-30 minutes, At which point I start to really lean on the subtitles. I usually just take a 10-15 minute break after 30 minutes, but this is usually watching english videos on youtube (or Misc)....which probably really doesn't help. I'll start just switching to a different task in spanish after 30 ish minutes, thanks!!So I'd do an hour of media, followed by 30 minutes of talking about what i just watched in the target language. It could be to myself or someone else. Whenever you hit a wall when trying to describe something (this is usually the past tense, future tense, or conditional of "they") I'd write that down then begin studying that tense. I'd watch another hour then try using that tense again.
Originally Posted By LurkoLantern⏩
That's awesome!! How did you like Costa Rica and Panama? What did you do there? Don't discredit yourself, I have heard some Spanish learners speak with really good accents. I think some people pick up the accent or just put more emphasis on it while they're learning. Watching some youtube videos, specfically a couple of "spanish lesson" channels with a latina wife and gringo husband and the gringos' accents are really bad, like they aren't even trying, difficult to watch.Really happy to see this bump. I stuck with my spanish studies and visited Costa Rica & Panama back in Feb before the lockdowns. I'm sure the taxi drivers and waiters were just being polite (or angling for a good tip) but it felt great to be told that I speak spanish well.
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Originally Posted By W1LLW⏩
ayy lmao this is me 100%.Just irks me when people try to study languages and 90% of what they're doing is listening and reading chit, then you ask them to talk and they're tongue tied as fuk which practically the entire point of learning a language.
I take a casual class each week end just to keep motivated keep motivated but I sound like a goober.
On the other hand I am starting to the basic plot of even dramas meant for adults and theoretically can read around 4000 words in Japanese.
It's kind of by design though. I don't intend to focus on speaking until at least another year. Listening and reading is going to be the focus for now.
btw I'm going to start making the monolingual transition by next week. That means learning to use a Japanese dictionary(s) instead of a English to Japanese dictionary. This is somewhat crucial for Asian languages since most words don't have an exact equivalent in English.
Plus it gets you more exposure to the language.
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Originally Posted By benedetto27⏩
Italian is easy if you already talk a romance language, otherwise its kinda difficult or so Ive heard. PM me if you need help brahI passed the C1 exam in French two years ago and I haven't really improved since then. Living in British Columbia there's really no need to speak French. I could keep studying but it's kind of boring to me now... I have the grammar down pat and a good accent. All that remains is to learn more vocab that I rarely use...but when you don't live in the language it's a bit hard to find the desire to learn words like door-hinge or whatever.
I think the only way out of this would be to move to france or quebec (unlikely because I hate quebec politcs and the lie of bilingualism) for a year and teach english. To reach as near native as I could.
I'm thinking about starting Italian instead tho...I mean I got an italian gf I might as well profit.
Italian seems kinda hard to me though. some say it's easier than French, but i find it harder, it seems to me that there's more exceptions. I just need to put in the work like i did with French to master the grammar.
I think the only way out of this would be to move to france or quebec (unlikely because I hate quebec politcs and the lie of bilingualism) for a year and teach english. To reach as near native as I could.
I'm thinking about starting Italian instead tho...I mean I got an italian gf I might as well profit.
Italian seems kinda hard to me though. some say it's easier than French, but i find it harder, it seems to me that there's more exceptions. I just need to put in the work like i did with French to master the grammar.
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Originally Posted By xam1996⏩
Bruto cornuto! Largate de aqui!Italian is easy if you already talk a romance language, otherwise its kinda difficult or so Ive heard. PM me if you need help brah
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Been trying to do Spanish, Korean, Russian, and Japanese concurrently since the start of the year (technically I started Japanese at the very end of January, but close enough).
I'm intermediate in Spanish and either upper beginner/lower int in Korean, but I started Russian/Japanese at the same time (beg of the year), so beginner in both, but I've decided I'm going to mostly drop Japanese (maybe still do 1 hour a week just to take a break from the others and try to keep it going) for the time being. I've been consistent in doing all 4, but I think I wanna get my Korean/Russian to a higher level first and Japanese is just taking that valuable time away. I actually don't think doing all 4 at the same time is really thathard, it's justslowbecause your attention is so divided, obviously. It's especially slow because except for Spanish, they're new scripts and some of the most foreign for a Western person, particularly with Japanese due to the 3 writing systems.
My Spanish is mostly in maintenance mode right now, where I read 30-60 mins a day. I find it interesting, because obviously I'm not currently pushing to try and advance my Spanish level, but even in "maintenance" mode, I find I am still improving because I'm still exposing myself to the language throughout the week.
Edit: Just for reference, these were my goals in terms of hours put forth towards each at the start of the year and where I currently am:
Current Hours/Goal Hours End of Year:
Korean:123/220
Spanish:79.5/180
Russian:95.25/200
Japanese:67.25/160
So on track to meet them right now. I was debating taking the remaining goal hours in Japanese and spreading them across the other 3.
I'm intermediate in Spanish and either upper beginner/lower int in Korean, but I started Russian/Japanese at the same time (beg of the year), so beginner in both, but I've decided I'm going to mostly drop Japanese (maybe still do 1 hour a week just to take a break from the others and try to keep it going) for the time being. I've been consistent in doing all 4, but I think I wanna get my Korean/Russian to a higher level first and Japanese is just taking that valuable time away. I actually don't think doing all 4 at the same time is really thathard, it's justslowbecause your attention is so divided, obviously. It's especially slow because except for Spanish, they're new scripts and some of the most foreign for a Western person, particularly with Japanese due to the 3 writing systems.
My Spanish is mostly in maintenance mode right now, where I read 30-60 mins a day. I find it interesting, because obviously I'm not currently pushing to try and advance my Spanish level, but even in "maintenance" mode, I find I am still improving because I'm still exposing myself to the language throughout the week.
Edit: Just for reference, these were my goals in terms of hours put forth towards each at the start of the year and where I currently am:
Current Hours/Goal Hours End of Year:
Korean:123/220
Spanish:79.5/180
Russian:95.25/200
Japanese:67.25/160
So on track to meet them right now. I was debating taking the remaining goal hours in Japanese and spreading them across the other 3.
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June 8th- June 14th:
Korean:7 hours
• Korean Class 101 Pod
• Anki Decks (Vocab, Sentences 1, Sentences 2)
• Word of the Day
Spanish:2.5 hours
• Spanish book
• Word of the Day
• Game of Thrones Audiobook
Russian:6.25 hours
• Russian Pod 101
• Anki Decks (Vocab, Sentences)
• Word of the Day
• Anna Karenina Audiobook
Japanese:2.25 hours
• Japanese Pod 101
• Anki Deck (Kanji)
• Word of the Day
Notes:I doNOTcount audiobooks or Netflix in my study hours. So for example, under Spanish, I have Game of Thrones listed, but I didn't count it towards my 2.5 hours that I did for the week. Same thing goes for Anna Karenina in Russian.
The podcasts are so convenient (just listening in general because you can do it anywhere), so I get a lot of reps in omw to work, on my daily walks, even at work if I'm not doing a cognitively-demanding task.
I notice the Anki decks that are sentences as opposed to individual vocab are much more enjoyable for me and seeing words in context with the structures of a real sentence yield so much more fruit, but I still find the vocab useful, particularly since the Korean decks I use were all made by the same person, so a lot of the time new vocab words I learned in the vocab deck are then in sentences in one of the sentence decks, which doubles up and creates a nice synergistic effect.
I love the sentence Russian deck because it is English sentences that you have to translate in Russian and it includes a timer, so it pushes you to think more quickly. It really is a great deck, IMO.
The Word of the Day actually comes with sample sentences and the audio, so it's more than just a WotD. I like it because I try to play the audio and write the sentence/what I'm hearing, which challenges my ability to understand what I'm hearing, my ability to write/spell, and my comprehension, sort of a three-layered approach. I really enjoy this, actually.
Korean:7 hours
• Korean Class 101 Pod
• Anki Decks (Vocab, Sentences 1, Sentences 2)
• Word of the Day
Spanish:2.5 hours
• Spanish book
• Word of the Day
• Game of Thrones Audiobook
Russian:6.25 hours
• Russian Pod 101
• Anki Decks (Vocab, Sentences)
• Word of the Day
• Anna Karenina Audiobook
Japanese:2.25 hours
• Japanese Pod 101
• Anki Deck (Kanji)
• Word of the Day
Notes:I doNOTcount audiobooks or Netflix in my study hours. So for example, under Spanish, I have Game of Thrones listed, but I didn't count it towards my 2.5 hours that I did for the week. Same thing goes for Anna Karenina in Russian.
The podcasts are so convenient (just listening in general because you can do it anywhere), so I get a lot of reps in omw to work, on my daily walks, even at work if I'm not doing a cognitively-demanding task.
I notice the Anki decks that are sentences as opposed to individual vocab are much more enjoyable for me and seeing words in context with the structures of a real sentence yield so much more fruit, but I still find the vocab useful, particularly since the Korean decks I use were all made by the same person, so a lot of the time new vocab words I learned in the vocab deck are then in sentences in one of the sentence decks, which doubles up and creates a nice synergistic effect.
I love the sentence Russian deck because it is English sentences that you have to translate in Russian and it includes a timer, so it pushes you to think more quickly. It really is a great deck, IMO.
The Word of the Day actually comes with sample sentences and the audio, so it's more than just a WotD. I like it because I try to play the audio and write the sentence/what I'm hearing, which challenges my ability to understand what I'm hearing, my ability to write/spell, and my comprehension, sort of a three-layered approach. I really enjoy this, actually.
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Originally Posted By Ownster8932⏩
Very cool to see. One suggestion, the english to russian sentence cards will not help you speak in the long run. Take it from me, I tried them in Spanish, and they were just frustrating. I stopped doing those, and my spanish still went fine without em. They just aren't worth it for the unit of time you spend on them. Recognition cards are worth it.June 8th- June 14th:
Korean:7 hours
• Korean Class 101 Pod
• Anki Decks (Vocab, Sentences 1, Sentences 2)
• Word of the Day
Spanish:2.5 hours
• Spanish book
• Word of the Day
• Game of Thrones Audiobook
Russian:6.25 hours
• Russian Pod 101
• Anki Decks (Vocab, Sentences)
• Word of the Day
• Anna Karenina Audiobook
Japanese:2.25 hours
• Japanese Pod 101
• Anki Deck (Kanji)
• Word of the Day
Notes:I doNOTcount audiobooks or Netflix in my study hours. So for example, under Spanish, I have Game of Thrones listed, but I didn't count it towards my 2.5 hours that I did for the week. Same thing goes for Anna Karenina in Russian.
The podcasts are so convenient (just listening in general because you can do it anywhere), so I get a lot of reps in omw to work, on my daily walks, even at work if I'm not doing a cognitively-demanding task.
I notice the Anki decks that are sentences as opposed to individual vocab are much more enjoyable for me and seeing words in context with the structures of a real sentence yield so much more fruit, but I still find the vocab useful, particularly since the Korean decks I use were all made by the same person, so a lot of the time new vocab words I learned in the vocab deck are then in sentences in one of the sentence decks, which doubles up and creates a nice synergistic effect.
I love the sentence Russian deck because it is English sentences that you have to translate in Russian and it includes a timer, so it pushes you to think more quickly. It really is a great deck, IMO.
The Word of the Day actually comes with sample sentences and the audio, so it's more than just a WotD. I like it because I try to play the audio and write the sentence/what I'm hearing, which challenges my ability to understand what I'm hearing, my ability to write/spell, and my comprehension, sort of a three-layered approach. I really enjoy this, actually.
Korean:7 hours
• Korean Class 101 Pod
• Anki Decks (Vocab, Sentences 1, Sentences 2)
• Word of the Day
Spanish:2.5 hours
• Spanish book
• Word of the Day
• Game of Thrones Audiobook
Russian:6.25 hours
• Russian Pod 101
• Anki Decks (Vocab, Sentences)
• Word of the Day
• Anna Karenina Audiobook
Japanese:2.25 hours
• Japanese Pod 101
• Anki Deck (Kanji)
• Word of the Day
Notes:I doNOTcount audiobooks or Netflix in my study hours. So for example, under Spanish, I have Game of Thrones listed, but I didn't count it towards my 2.5 hours that I did for the week. Same thing goes for Anna Karenina in Russian.
The podcasts are so convenient (just listening in general because you can do it anywhere), so I get a lot of reps in omw to work, on my daily walks, even at work if I'm not doing a cognitively-demanding task.
I notice the Anki decks that are sentences as opposed to individual vocab are much more enjoyable for me and seeing words in context with the structures of a real sentence yield so much more fruit, but I still find the vocab useful, particularly since the Korean decks I use were all made by the same person, so a lot of the time new vocab words I learned in the vocab deck are then in sentences in one of the sentence decks, which doubles up and creates a nice synergistic effect.
I love the sentence Russian deck because it is English sentences that you have to translate in Russian and it includes a timer, so it pushes you to think more quickly. It really is a great deck, IMO.
The Word of the Day actually comes with sample sentences and the audio, so it's more than just a WotD. I like it because I try to play the audio and write the sentence/what I'm hearing, which challenges my ability to understand what I'm hearing, my ability to write/spell, and my comprehension, sort of a three-layered approach. I really enjoy this, actually.
Like progress overload is the main driver of muscle growth, input is the main driver of language learning.
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Originally Posted By KingofLifts⏩
I don't actually disagree and I am definitely in the camp of input drives language learning (though you do have to speak and write at one point if you want to be able to speak and write, of course). I also largely focus on input activities, outside of shadowing to practice speaking (which is still input cuz I'm listening, lol). However, I tried a few different Anki decks and I just found that onefun. I have my daily staples and things that are my "foundation" of language learning, but I also have things that I use that are just kinda fun or make my mind stretch and flex in different ways. Since language learning is a personal endeavor for me, I'm not as concerned about having the perfect program as much as I am one that is both effective while being fun (even if not everything I do is ideal in terms of being the most effective method). I will say that I don't think it is entirely useless either, as it does make me think about the words and how I would construct the sentence in the other language, even though their answer is really just one of a bunch of possible ways you could construct the sentence (especially in Russian). I also only add one new sentence per session, so it's a slow progression in that and not one of my main avenues I am pushing the pace with.Very cool to see. One suggestion, the english to russian sentence cards will not help you speak in the long run. Take it from me, I tried them in Spanish, and they were just frustrating. I stopped doing those, and my spanish still went fine without em. They just aren't worth it for the unit of time you spend on them. Recognition cards are worth it.
Like progress overload is the main driver of muscle growth, input is the main driver of language learning.
Like progress overload is the main driver of muscle growth, input is the main driver of language learning.
Another thing I have noticed, which is connected to that deck, but also just applies more broadly in terms of my language learning experience, is that I found that by having multiple avenues and tools, it is rewarding to recognize words/phrase/constructs that I learned in one tool in another tool. I also think it helps to better commit it to memory, at least for me.
I have tried and continue trying a whole host of things in the different languages to see what I like, don't like, what I find effective, ineffective, etc. I like to have the foundational tools that I really like and use daily and then I like to try or explore new things to see if I wanna add them to the toolkit to spice it up or decide not worth it.
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Originally Posted By damlurker550⏩
I didn't really consider using a Spanish dictionary to look up words instead of a spanish->english translator. At what point would you guys suggest this?btw I'm going to start making the monolingual transition by next week. That means learning to use a Japanese dictionary(s) instead of a English to Japanese dictionary. This is somewhat crucial for Asian languages since most words don't have an exact equivalent in English.
Plus it gets you more exposure to the language.
Plus it gets you more exposure to the language.
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Weekly Update- June 15th-21st:
Completed/Goals:
Korean:3.25/3
• Korean Class 101
• Word of the Day
• Anki
Spanish:4/4
• Book
• Word of the Day
• Netflix
*I count Netflix with Spanish because I am advanced enough to actually follow and it's productive in pushing me*
Russian: 4.25/3.5
• Russian Pod 101
• Word of the Day
Japanese:5.5/5
• Japanese Pod 101
• Word of the Day
Comments:Pretty happy as I met my goals for the week or exceeded them in all languages. Things are super hectic right now as I've got a lot of things going on in life, but I'm (trying to) finding a way. This week was very heavy on the audio, outside of Spanish, but the car or on my walks is an easy way to get the reps in. The advantage when I go on my walks (compared to the car) is that I can have the text pulled up, so I can read while I listen. I usually like a better balance (in terms of reading/writing/listening), but no worries, even if it's not perfect, continuing to move forward and be productive, which is what matters.
Completed/Goals:
Korean:3.25/3
• Korean Class 101
• Word of the Day
• Anki
Spanish:4/4
• Book
• Word of the Day
• Netflix
*I count Netflix with Spanish because I am advanced enough to actually follow and it's productive in pushing me*
Russian: 4.25/3.5
• Russian Pod 101
• Word of the Day
Japanese:5.5/5
• Japanese Pod 101
• Word of the Day
Comments:Pretty happy as I met my goals for the week or exceeded them in all languages. Things are super hectic right now as I've got a lot of things going on in life, but I'm (trying to) finding a way. This week was very heavy on the audio, outside of Spanish, but the car or on my walks is an easy way to get the reps in. The advantage when I go on my walks (compared to the car) is that I can have the text pulled up, so I can read while I listen. I usually like a better balance (in terms of reading/writing/listening), but no worries, even if it's not perfect, continuing to move forward and be productive, which is what matters.
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Originally Posted By Ownster8932⏩
Dude I think you hit the nail on the head. Fun actually really is an important factor. Fun is probably the greatest factor to getting you to spend time in the language so gjdm. The only point I was trying to make was that of efficiency, all else being equal, but if the production cards are FUN, it's 10x better for you to be doing that.I don't actually disagree and I am definitely in the camp of input drives language learning (though you do have to speak and write at one point if you want to be able to speak and write, of course). I also largely focus on input activities, outside of shadowing to practice speaking (which is still input cuz I'm listening, lol). However, I tried a few different Anki decks and I just found that onefun. I have my daily staples and things that are my "foundation" of language learning, but I also have things that I use that are just kinda fun or make my mind stretch and flex in different ways. Since language learning is a personal endeavor for me, I'm not as concerned about having the perfect program as much as I am one that is both effective while being fun (even if not everything I do is ideal in terms of being the most effective method). I will say that I don't think it is entirely useless either, as it does make me think about the words and how I would construct the sentence in the other language, even though their answer is really just one of a bunch of possible ways you could construct the sentence (especially in Russian). I also only add one new sentence per session, so it's a slow progression in that and not one of my main avenues I am pushing the pace with.
Another thing I have noticed, which is connected to that deck, but also just applies more broadly in terms of my language learning experience, is that I found that by having multiple avenues and tools, it is rewarding to recognize words/phrase/constructs that I learned in one tool in another tool. I also think it helps to better commit it to memory, at least for me.
I have tried and continue trying a whole host of things in the different languages to see what I like, don't like, what I find effective, ineffective, etc. I like to have the foundational tools that I really like and use daily and then I like to try or explore new things to see if I wanna add them to the toolkit to spice it up or decide not worth it.
Another thing I have noticed, which is connected to that deck, but also just applies more broadly in terms of my language learning experience, is that I found that by having multiple avenues and tools, it is rewarding to recognize words/phrase/constructs that I learned in one tool in another tool. I also think it helps to better commit it to memory, at least for me.
I have tried and continue trying a whole host of things in the different languages to see what I like, don't like, what I find effective, ineffective, etc. I like to have the foundational tools that I really like and use daily and then I like to try or explore new things to see if I wanna add them to the toolkit to spice it up or decide not worth it.
Good on you man. Looking forward to seeing more progress.
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Originally Posted By lnvictus⏩
HahahaMan it feels SO amazing to be able to read Russian letters. I've been learning using this playlist.
Party time..
Party time..
Yeah different scripts make some languages seem really intimidating
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Weekly Update- June 22nd-28th:
Completed/Goals:
Korean:3.25/3.25
• Korean Class 101
• Word of the Day
• Anki
Spanish:3/3
• Word of the Day
• Netflix
Russian: 3.25/3
• Russian Pod 101
Japanese:3/3
• Japanese Pod 101
Comments:Super busy, not a particularly great time in my personal life, just made an offer on a house for new job (moving 15 hours away) yesterday that got accepted, amongst other things that have me in an emotional funk while still trying to do other things (gym, for one). However, I'm still grinding and trying to do the best I can to get the work in. This week was nearly allllll listening in the car or on my walks as I just didn't have lot of time to really sit down, outside of some Anki for Korean and some Netflix for Spanish. Things will hopefully improve once I move and can dedicate more time. Until then, going to just keep doing what I can.
Completed/Goals:
Korean:3.25/3.25
• Korean Class 101
• Word of the Day
• Anki
Spanish:3/3
• Word of the Day
• Netflix
Russian: 3.25/3
• Russian Pod 101
Japanese:3/3
• Japanese Pod 101
Comments:Super busy, not a particularly great time in my personal life, just made an offer on a house for new job (moving 15 hours away) yesterday that got accepted, amongst other things that have me in an emotional funk while still trying to do other things (gym, for one). However, I'm still grinding and trying to do the best I can to get the work in. This week was nearly allllll listening in the car or on my walks as I just didn't have lot of time to really sit down, outside of some Anki for Korean and some Netflix for Spanish. Things will hopefully improve once I move and can dedicate more time. Until then, going to just keep doing what I can.
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