Falling statue takes out a protester, condition unknown but apparently it was bloody

06-11-2020, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted By meanstringbean⏩

By that logic we should remove all mosques as well since Mohammed owned slaves

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06-11-2020, 09:17 PM

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The war wasnt over slavery. 5 of the northern states had slavery. The southern states were offered the chance to avoid war and keep slavery with the Corwin Amendment. They didnt ratify the amendment. The war literally started at fort Sumter where the tariffs were paid and taken from the south. The south was fighting in defense of an invasion and to prevent their cities from being burned to the ground. General Lee gave the slaves he inherited free. general Lee is the reason why richmond and other cities werent burned to the ground. Trans atlantic slave trade was ended by jefferson. Jefferson asked for the end of the importation of slaves in his 1806 state of union address and it ended in 1808. Slavery could have ended without a war. England ended slavery without a war. Their government paid slave owners to give slaves freedom.

06-11-2020, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted By Caeculus⏩

The war wasnt over slavery. 5 of the northern states had slavery. The southern states were offered the chance to avoid war and keep slavery with the Corwin Amendment. They didnt ratify the amendment. The war literally started at fort Sumter where the tariffs were paid and taken from the south. The south was fighting in defense of an invasion and to prevent their cities from being burned to the ground. General Lee gave the slaves he inherited free. general Lee is the reason why richmond and other cities werent burned to the ground. Trans atlantic slave trade was ended by jefferson. Jefferson asked for the end of the importation of slaves in his 1806 state of union address and it ended in 1808. Slavery could have ended without a war. England ended slavery without a war. Their government paid slave owners to give slaves freedom.

I somewhat disagree with your first sentence (and Im 100% against removing statues btw). The war was absolutely about slavery. It was also about states rights yes, but the main contention point was states rights for slavery. A very nuanced view of the 20 year leading up to 1860 really hammer this home. Respect your opinion but I have to disagree there.

06-11-2020, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted By mp83⏩

Sure, remove Grant statue. But why should we honor traitors like confederate soldiers? They represent slavery and being traitors. Besides, I thought you right-wingers were against trophies for second place?

But seriously, how would you feel if there was a group that wanted to make it legal to rape, kill and enslave white people and then people who fought for their right to do so were given statues? Id find it pretty fuked up

Remove the Lincoln memorial too? Remove every statue in history of anyone that had any views considered offensive to modern groups?

“I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races,” he began, going on to say that he opposed blacks having the right to vote, to serve on juries, to hold office and to intermarry with whites.

06-11-2020, 09:40 PM

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Condition is stable and that white blur wasn't his head exploding, it was a piece of the statue

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06-11-2020, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted By resoog⏩

Condition is stable and that white blur wasn't his head exploding, it was a piece of the statue

He didn't die? Hole lee fk.

06-11-2020, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted By AWillis⏩

tough sh*t. he shouldn't have been there.police should have just tear gassed everyone there, but then i guess they'd just go fk up another area

In before they make it the police's fault for not doing that.

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06-11-2020, 10:06 PM

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I'm against and am disgusted by the looting and destruction of the cities. But I would never wish this type of injury or death on anyone. Liberal, conservative, moderate... it doesn't matter. Wish they just gave him some time in jail or a fine or something.

They think what they are doing is right and have a cause. I'm sure there's stuff that other people feel strongly about and disagree with you on. Does that mean you deserve to this type injury? No...

06-13-2020, 07:25 AM

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Norfolk, right across the river, took down the Johnny Reb statue before it could be vandalized

And relief washes over me in an awesome wave

06-13-2020, 07:31 AM

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the fact that the trumpets start playing as his head is aboit to get caved in kills me

06-13-2020, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted By al****orilla⏩

Chill edge Lord,

No one deserves that even for being stupid to take down inanimate objects such as statues down.

This im praying for him and the family. Googled how much those statues weigh. Its somewhere between 550 and 900 lb depending on dimensions.

06-13-2020, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted By MattyMiscer⏩

Norfolk, right across the river, took down the Johnny Reb statue before it could be vandalized

that whole statue design is real nice. don't care what it signifies. would stand and admire for at least 5 mins.

06-13-2020, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted By resoog⏩

Condition is stable and that white blur wasn't his head exploding, it was a piece of the statue

Originally Posted By umop3pisdn⏩

He didn't die? Hole lee fk.

Damn.

Head injuries are no joke. He might be stable, but if he wakes up his quality of life afterwards might be forever changed.

06-13-2020, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted By thatsnarf⏩

that whole statue design is real nice. don't care what it signifies. would stand and admire for at least 5 mins.

Was thinking the same thing. Never really noticed it in Norfolk before but regardless of which side it memorializes, it’s pretty aesthetic.

This is what it looked like in 1910:

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06-13-2020, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted By MattyMiscer⏩

Was thinking the same thing. Never really noticed it in Norfolk before but regardless of which side it memorializes, it’s pretty aesthetic.

This is what it looked like in 1910:

That looked like a great location too. It's crazy what humans are able to create.

Love how that statue is surrounded by the modern world now. Doesn't even stick out like a sore thumb. That piece of history belongs there.

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06-13-2020, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted By thatsnarf⏩

That looked like a great location too. It's crazy what humans are able to create.

Love how that statue is surrounded by the modern world now. Doesn't even stick out like a sore thumb. That piece of history belongs there.

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I think one of the issues with a lot of these confederate statues is that they were placed at the most prominent locations in their cities, so in multiple cases (like the one in my neighborhood) this same location also apparently happened to have featured a whipping post for slaves at some point in the past. The BLM protestors say this is evidence of the racist nature of the statues but honestly I wouldn’t be surprised if it was a coincidence in a lot of cases. Whether it’s a statue or a whipping post, I’d imagine people would have wanted to put them in the “town square” or wherever the most prominent place in the city was located so it makes sense to me that both would end up in the same location over time.

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06-13-2020, 04:57 PM

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06-13-2020, 05:10 PM

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Watched the video finally

Fkn lol

06-13-2020, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted By resoog⏩

Condition is stable and that white blur wasn't his head exploding, it was a piece of the statue

Someone they interviewed did say his head was split and he was convulsing

06-13-2020, 05:24 PM

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I graduated from James Madison University in VA with a Masters Degree 5 year plan. James Madison owned slaves. If anyone tried to take down the statue of him which is standing on our campus, they will have to take it down over my dead body.

06-13-2020, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted By ZeroPercentTip⏩

I graduated from James Madison University in VA with a Masters Degree 5 year plan. James Madison owned slaves. If anyone tried to take down the statue of him which is standing on our campus, they will have to take it down over my dead body.

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