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Originally Posted By HouseOfISRAEL⏩
This is the kind of poster I'm talking about. OP wants to biasly target a certain type of misc poster, but then you have plenty of these guys and those who support him roaming around the misc. If racism is a problem on the misc, then it's "equal opportunity" racism where no demographics are safe.The altright *******s thought they’d make a new reich
But they’ve failed
And are hiding in the sewers where those cowards belong
But they’ve failed
And are hiding in the sewers where those cowards belong
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Originally Posted By thunderykoala⏩
Especially not Indians. It's funny because Indians are the most attacked group on the Misc by far, and no one bats an eye lolThis is the kind of poster I'm talking about. OP wants to biasly target a certain type of misc poster, but then you have plenty of these guys and those who support him roaming around the misc. If racism is a problem on the misc, then it's "equal opportunity" racism where no demographics are safe.
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Originally Posted By JIA⏩
The people who accuse me of racism are actual racists anyway, so not really. If there isn't a reasonable standard or parameters for the label anymore, then it doesn't have any "bite" to it. It's meaningless as a label. As another poster mentioned, it's the social ostracization and cancel culture involved with the label that's the actual problem.True, but the already rampant abuse should dilute the power of the term soon enough. Are you or anyone even phased any more if you're accused of being racist?
06-26-2020, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted By Iamthebateman⏩
Myth:
White European Christians were solely responsible for the African Slave trade.
Fact:
No, kids—the blacks, Arabs, and Jews were involved, too.
• BLACKS: The president of an African country called Benin recently apologized to American blacks for his country's role in the slave trade. Slavery was common throughout Africa, with entire tribes becoming enslaved after losing battles. Tribal chieftains often sold their defeated foes to white slave-traders. In the late 1700s, a freed black American slave named Ottobah Cugoano wrote, "I was first kidnapped and betrayed by my own complexion, who were the first cause of my exile and slavery."
• ARABS: The word "Abed" means "slave" in Arabic. It also means "black." The "Holy Land" of the Middle East has hosted far more African slaves than North America ever did.
• JEWS: The oldest synagogue in America was built by Aaron Lopez, a Jewish slave trader. Jewish writers such as Cecil Roth, Wilfred Samuels, Seymour B. Liebman, and Moshe Kahan acknowledge that Jews were involved in all levels of the African slave trade.
In fact, children, white Christians were the first group to make a concerted effort to ABOLISH slavery.
Myth:
America is a uniquely evil place because it imported all those slaves from Africa
Fact:
Of the 10 to 15 million Africans who were transplanted to the New World, no more than 6 percent—around 400,000—went to the Northern Hemisphere. Almost all of them went to South America, but you don't see your teachers giving Brazil a hard time, do you?
Myth:
Most whites owned slaves, so every white person should share guilt for American slavery
Fact:
Blacks were never close to a majority in America, so it's mathematically impossible for most whites to have owned black slaves.At the peak of black slavery in the South, only 6 percent of Southern whites owned slaves. If you include the white people in the North, it means that only 1.4 percent of white Americans owned black slaves at the HEIGHT of slavery.
Myth:
Blacks never owned slaves in America
Fact:
An estimated 3,000 blacks owned a total of 20,000 black slaves in the year 1860.One study concluded that 28 percent of free blacks owned slaves, which is a far higher percentage than that of free whites who owned slaves.
Myth:
There were no white slaves in America
Fact:
Although your textbooks are silent about it, most historians agree that two-thirds of ALL whites came to the colonies in some form of bondage. Legal papers on both sides of the ocean referred to them as "slaves."White slaves outnumbered black slaves in America throughout the 1600s.
Myth:
White people need to pay financial reparations to black people
Fact:
American blacks enjoy the highest standard of living of any black population on earth. Their average per capita income is TWENTY to FIFTY times higher than in any of the African countries from where they were displaced.It's true that part of America's wealth was built on black slavery; it is also true that American blacks are enjoying the fruits of that wealth.You, fair child, whether you were born black or white, weren't born in debt to anyone. You were born free. Don't let the bad people take it away from you.
Myth:
The civil war was fought to end slavery
Fact:
When General Robert E. Lee surrendered to Ulysses S. Grant, it had been nearly 20 years since Lee owned slaves—he freed his slaves in the late 1840s. In 1856, five years before the Civil War started, he wrote that slavery was "a moral and political evil." On the other hand, General Grant STILL owned slaves at the end of the Civil War, because Abe Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation cleverly outlawed slavery only in the South. Grant had stated that he would refuse to fight if he thought the war had anything to do with slavery. And hey, kids, even if it WAS fought to end slavery,how often do you see the descendants of slaves thanking the 600,000 or so white soldiers who died in the fight to free them?
Myth:
Slavery ended with the civil war.
Fact:
The US government estimates that 50,000 humans are brought into this country every year for the purpose of forced labor. Various agencies estimate that there are anywhere from 27 to 200 million humans currently enslaved worldwide. (Compare this to only four and a half million slaves at American slavery's peak.) Most of these slaves live in South Asia, Africa, and South America. Their labor comes far cheaper and is much more profitable than black American slavery was. In many horrifying cases, poverty-stricken women sell their vaginas on the black market and become lifelong sex slaves to fat, stinky men for as little as $1,500. In today's dollars, a black slave in the American South cost approximately $40,000.
Myth:
White "Indentured Servants" chose to come here and weren't treated as badly as black slaves
Fact:
Hundreds of thousands of white slaves were kidnapped and brought to America; their middle-passage death rates were comparable to those of black slaves; they were sold at auction and traded for livestock, they were routinely beaten—sometimes to death—and an estimated one half of them died before gaining freedom.It's possible that more whites came to America against their will than blacks.Historians from both ends of the political spectrum say that white slaves were treated worse than black slaves.
Let these racist and offensive facts sink in you dumb monkeys.
Why you gotta be racist “monkeys” ?
Myth:
White European Christians were solely responsible for the African Slave trade.
Fact:
No, kids—the blacks, Arabs, and Jews were involved, too.
• BLACKS: The president of an African country called Benin recently apologized to American blacks for his country's role in the slave trade. Slavery was common throughout Africa, with entire tribes becoming enslaved after losing battles. Tribal chieftains often sold their defeated foes to white slave-traders. In the late 1700s, a freed black American slave named Ottobah Cugoano wrote, "I was first kidnapped and betrayed by my own complexion, who were the first cause of my exile and slavery."
• ARABS: The word "Abed" means "slave" in Arabic. It also means "black." The "Holy Land" of the Middle East has hosted far more African slaves than North America ever did.
• JEWS: The oldest synagogue in America was built by Aaron Lopez, a Jewish slave trader. Jewish writers such as Cecil Roth, Wilfred Samuels, Seymour B. Liebman, and Moshe Kahan acknowledge that Jews were involved in all levels of the African slave trade.
In fact, children, white Christians were the first group to make a concerted effort to ABOLISH slavery.
Myth:
America is a uniquely evil place because it imported all those slaves from Africa
Fact:
Of the 10 to 15 million Africans who were transplanted to the New World, no more than 6 percent—around 400,000—went to the Northern Hemisphere. Almost all of them went to South America, but you don't see your teachers giving Brazil a hard time, do you?
Myth:
Most whites owned slaves, so every white person should share guilt for American slavery
Fact:
Blacks were never close to a majority in America, so it's mathematically impossible for most whites to have owned black slaves.At the peak of black slavery in the South, only 6 percent of Southern whites owned slaves. If you include the white people in the North, it means that only 1.4 percent of white Americans owned black slaves at the HEIGHT of slavery.
Myth:
Blacks never owned slaves in America
Fact:
An estimated 3,000 blacks owned a total of 20,000 black slaves in the year 1860.One study concluded that 28 percent of free blacks owned slaves, which is a far higher percentage than that of free whites who owned slaves.
Myth:
There were no white slaves in America
Fact:
Although your textbooks are silent about it, most historians agree that two-thirds of ALL whites came to the colonies in some form of bondage. Legal papers on both sides of the ocean referred to them as "slaves."White slaves outnumbered black slaves in America throughout the 1600s.
Myth:
White people need to pay financial reparations to black people
Fact:
American blacks enjoy the highest standard of living of any black population on earth. Their average per capita income is TWENTY to FIFTY times higher than in any of the African countries from where they were displaced.It's true that part of America's wealth was built on black slavery; it is also true that American blacks are enjoying the fruits of that wealth.You, fair child, whether you were born black or white, weren't born in debt to anyone. You were born free. Don't let the bad people take it away from you.
Myth:
The civil war was fought to end slavery
Fact:
When General Robert E. Lee surrendered to Ulysses S. Grant, it had been nearly 20 years since Lee owned slaves—he freed his slaves in the late 1840s. In 1856, five years before the Civil War started, he wrote that slavery was "a moral and political evil." On the other hand, General Grant STILL owned slaves at the end of the Civil War, because Abe Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation cleverly outlawed slavery only in the South. Grant had stated that he would refuse to fight if he thought the war had anything to do with slavery. And hey, kids, even if it WAS fought to end slavery,how often do you see the descendants of slaves thanking the 600,000 or so white soldiers who died in the fight to free them?
Myth:
Slavery ended with the civil war.
Fact:
The US government estimates that 50,000 humans are brought into this country every year for the purpose of forced labor. Various agencies estimate that there are anywhere from 27 to 200 million humans currently enslaved worldwide. (Compare this to only four and a half million slaves at American slavery's peak.) Most of these slaves live in South Asia, Africa, and South America. Their labor comes far cheaper and is much more profitable than black American slavery was. In many horrifying cases, poverty-stricken women sell their vaginas on the black market and become lifelong sex slaves to fat, stinky men for as little as $1,500. In today's dollars, a black slave in the American South cost approximately $40,000.
Myth:
White "Indentured Servants" chose to come here and weren't treated as badly as black slaves
Fact:
Hundreds of thousands of white slaves were kidnapped and brought to America; their middle-passage death rates were comparable to those of black slaves; they were sold at auction and traded for livestock, they were routinely beaten—sometimes to death—and an estimated one half of them died before gaining freedom.It's possible that more whites came to America against their will than blacks.Historians from both ends of the political spectrum say that white slaves were treated worse than black slaves.
Let these racist and offensive facts sink in you dumb monkeys.
06-26-2020, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted By ProEra⏩
bateman is hereby CANCELLEDWhy you gotta be racist “monkeys” ?
06-26-2020, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted By BigDeeps01⏩
The resident misc Indians take it like champs too. Also ZhengTerry and Bolobrah.Especially not Indians. It's funny because Indians are the most attacked group on the Misc by far, and no one bats an eye lol
06-26-2020, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted By thunderykoala⏩
Asians and Indians are not going to be safe in the current climateThe resident misc Indians take it like champs too. Also ZhengTerry and Bolobrah.
06-26-2020, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted By ProEra⏩
You're the racist for inferring I was using the term Monkey to describe someone's skin color, when really I was implying that humans are just dumb animals, or primates, or MONKEYS.Why you gotta be racist “monkeys” ?
06-26-2020, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted By jhawk08⏩
I honestly didn't read that line as that, but at the same time, it's definitely just not a good word to useWe know what monkey means on this site. Just like dindus or joggers or savages, etc.
06-26-2020, 01:48 PM
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If we ever did the calculations on reparations, African Americans would end up owing money.
Entire NYPD should go on strike. You'll see then how quickly the mayor changes his tone.
"Dig with your hands, not with your mouths"
Entire NYPD should go on strike. You'll see then how quickly the mayor changes his tone.
06-26-2020, 01:53 PM
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It's always been thats why we call it miscfront. Lots of poorly educated tradies on here thats all.
06-26-2020, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted By jhawk08⏩
Will just have to agree to disagree then. I call stupid people of whatever color monkeys all the time. Never been a race thing. Always been a dumb human thing in my eyes.We know what monkey means on this site. Just like dindus or joggers or savages, etc.
THAT is a pretty racist term though if you're using it exclusively on black people. Not what I was doing though.
See, though? This is the problem with WORDS, and how letting WORDS affect you is just dumb. I realize people are hyper-sensitive though so I changed it to 'animals' for anyone who went blind reading the word Monkey out of context.
Btw- I don't know what dindus or joggers are, but am more than familiar with savage - IMO the real racism in this country is against the Natives.
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Originally Posted By peterplsss⏩
You should try reading some books. There's a huge difference between a historically oppressed group asserting their rights and a historically dominant group attempting to reassert their dominance and power. And cops kill blacks far more disproportionately in comparison to their share of the overall population than they do whites or any other group.This, speaking straight facts isn't racist you fukin *******. If you don't like it then fix the facts. This whole movement is based on just ignoring straight up facts, and selfishly wanting to take and destroy everything. Every good persons life matters and everyone wants cops that don't power trip and abuse their power because it effects everyone, not just black people despite the fact that a lot of black people think cops only are out to fuk them over and let other races do whatever they want.
Think about how wild the double standard is that you can literally walk around and say black power and ****, but if you say white power you're an actual nazi. That isn't equal or fair treatment.
Think about how wild the double standard is that you can literally walk around and say black power and ****, but if you say white power you're an actual nazi. That isn't equal or fair treatment.
06-26-2020, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted By Iamthebateman⏩
I don't need to read the entire thing to know that’s it bull**** that you didn’t even fact source. Only 1% of Whites owned slaves? In the South, about a third of White families owned at least one slave and in some states, as much as half. If you’re going to make an argument, don’t pull up fake states from whatever bull**** site you copied and pasted that fromMyth:
White European Christians were solely responsible for the African Slave trade.
Fact:
No, kids—the blacks, Arabs, and Jews were involved, too.
• BLACKS: The president of an African country called Benin recently apologized to American blacks for his country's role in the slave trade. Slavery was common throughout Africa, with entire tribes becoming enslaved after losing battles. Tribal chieftains often sold their defeated foes to white slave-traders. In the late 1700s, a freed black American slave named Ottobah Cugoano wrote, "I was first kidnapped and betrayed by my own complexion, who were the first cause of my exile and slavery."
• ARABS: The word "Abed" means "slave" in Arabic. It also means "black." The "Holy Land" of the Middle East has hosted far more African slaves than North America ever did.
• JEWS: The oldest synagogue in America was built by Aaron Lopez, a Jewish slave trader. Jewish writers such as Cecil Roth, Wilfred Samuels, Seymour B. Liebman, and Moshe Kahan acknowledge that Jews were involved in all levels of the African slave trade.
In fact, children, white Christians were the first group to make a concerted effort to ABOLISH slavery.
Myth:
America is a uniquely evil place because it imported all those slaves from Africa
Fact:
Of the 10 to 15 million Africans who were transplanted to the New World, no more than 6 percent—around 400,000—went to the Northern Hemisphere. Almost all of them went to South America, but you don't see your teachers giving Brazil a hard time, do you?
Myth:
Most whites owned slaves, so every white person should share guilt for American slavery
Fact:
Blacks were never close to a majority in America, so it's mathematically impossible for most whites to have owned black slaves.At the peak of black slavery in the South, only 6 percent of Southern whites owned slaves. If you include the white people in the North, it means that only 1.4 percent of white Americans owned black slaves at the HEIGHT of slavery.
Myth:
Blacks never owned slaves in America
Fact:
An estimated 3,000 blacks owned a total of 20,000 black slaves in the year 1860.One study concluded that 28 percent of free blacks owned slaves, which is a far higher percentage than that of free whites who owned slaves.
Myth:
There were no white slaves in America
Fact:
Although your textbooks are silent about it, most historians agree that two-thirds of ALL whites came to the colonies in some form of bondage. Legal papers on both sides of the ocean referred to them as "slaves."White slaves outnumbered black slaves in America throughout the 1600s.
Myth:
White people need to pay financial reparations to black people
Fact:
American blacks enjoy the highest standard of living of any black population on earth. Their average per capita income is TWENTY to FIFTY times higher than in any of the African countries from where they were displaced.It's true that part of America's wealth was built on black slavery; it is also true that American blacks are enjoying the fruits of that wealth.You, fair child, whether you were born black or white, weren't born in debt to anyone. You were born free. Don't let the bad people take it away from you.
Myth:
The civil war was fought to end slavery
Fact:
When General Robert E. Lee surrendered to Ulysses S. Grant, it had been nearly 20 years since Lee owned slaves—he freed his slaves in the late 1840s. In 1856, five years before the Civil War started, he wrote that slavery was "a moral and political evil." On the other hand, General Grant STILL owned slaves at the end of the Civil War, because Abe Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation cleverly outlawed slavery only in the South. Grant had stated that he would refuse to fight if he thought the war had anything to do with slavery. And hey, kids, even if it WAS fought to end slavery,how often do you see the descendants of slaves thanking the 600,000 or so white soldiers who died in the fight to free them?
Myth:
Slavery ended with the civil war.
Fact:
The US government estimates that 50,000 humans are brought into this country every year for the purpose of forced labor. Various agencies estimate that there are anywhere from 27 to 200 million humans currently enslaved worldwide. (Compare this to only four and a half million slaves at American slavery's peak.) Most of these slaves live in South Asia, Africa, and South America. Their labor comes far cheaper and is much more profitable than black American slavery was. In many horrifying cases, poverty-stricken women sell their vaginas on the black market and become lifelong sex slaves to fat, stinky men for as little as $1,500. In today's dollars, a black slave in the American South cost approximately $40,000.
Myth:
White "Indentured Servants" chose to come here and weren't treated as badly as black slaves
Fact:
Hundreds of thousands of white slaves were kidnapped and brought to America; their middle-passage death rates were comparable to those of black slaves; they were sold at auction and traded for livestock, they were routinely beaten—sometimes to death—and an estimated one half of them died before gaining freedom.It's possible that more whites came to America against their will than blacks.Historians from both ends of the political spectrum say that white slaves were treated worse than black slaves.
Let these racist and offensive facts sink in you dumb animals.
White European Christians were solely responsible for the African Slave trade.
Fact:
No, kids—the blacks, Arabs, and Jews were involved, too.
• BLACKS: The president of an African country called Benin recently apologized to American blacks for his country's role in the slave trade. Slavery was common throughout Africa, with entire tribes becoming enslaved after losing battles. Tribal chieftains often sold their defeated foes to white slave-traders. In the late 1700s, a freed black American slave named Ottobah Cugoano wrote, "I was first kidnapped and betrayed by my own complexion, who were the first cause of my exile and slavery."
• ARABS: The word "Abed" means "slave" in Arabic. It also means "black." The "Holy Land" of the Middle East has hosted far more African slaves than North America ever did.
• JEWS: The oldest synagogue in America was built by Aaron Lopez, a Jewish slave trader. Jewish writers such as Cecil Roth, Wilfred Samuels, Seymour B. Liebman, and Moshe Kahan acknowledge that Jews were involved in all levels of the African slave trade.
In fact, children, white Christians were the first group to make a concerted effort to ABOLISH slavery.
Myth:
America is a uniquely evil place because it imported all those slaves from Africa
Fact:
Of the 10 to 15 million Africans who were transplanted to the New World, no more than 6 percent—around 400,000—went to the Northern Hemisphere. Almost all of them went to South America, but you don't see your teachers giving Brazil a hard time, do you?
Myth:
Most whites owned slaves, so every white person should share guilt for American slavery
Fact:
Blacks were never close to a majority in America, so it's mathematically impossible for most whites to have owned black slaves.At the peak of black slavery in the South, only 6 percent of Southern whites owned slaves. If you include the white people in the North, it means that only 1.4 percent of white Americans owned black slaves at the HEIGHT of slavery.
Myth:
Blacks never owned slaves in America
Fact:
An estimated 3,000 blacks owned a total of 20,000 black slaves in the year 1860.One study concluded that 28 percent of free blacks owned slaves, which is a far higher percentage than that of free whites who owned slaves.
Myth:
There were no white slaves in America
Fact:
Although your textbooks are silent about it, most historians agree that two-thirds of ALL whites came to the colonies in some form of bondage. Legal papers on both sides of the ocean referred to them as "slaves."White slaves outnumbered black slaves in America throughout the 1600s.
Myth:
White people need to pay financial reparations to black people
Fact:
American blacks enjoy the highest standard of living of any black population on earth. Their average per capita income is TWENTY to FIFTY times higher than in any of the African countries from where they were displaced.It's true that part of America's wealth was built on black slavery; it is also true that American blacks are enjoying the fruits of that wealth.You, fair child, whether you were born black or white, weren't born in debt to anyone. You were born free. Don't let the bad people take it away from you.
Myth:
The civil war was fought to end slavery
Fact:
When General Robert E. Lee surrendered to Ulysses S. Grant, it had been nearly 20 years since Lee owned slaves—he freed his slaves in the late 1840s. In 1856, five years before the Civil War started, he wrote that slavery was "a moral and political evil." On the other hand, General Grant STILL owned slaves at the end of the Civil War, because Abe Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation cleverly outlawed slavery only in the South. Grant had stated that he would refuse to fight if he thought the war had anything to do with slavery. And hey, kids, even if it WAS fought to end slavery,how often do you see the descendants of slaves thanking the 600,000 or so white soldiers who died in the fight to free them?
Myth:
Slavery ended with the civil war.
Fact:
The US government estimates that 50,000 humans are brought into this country every year for the purpose of forced labor. Various agencies estimate that there are anywhere from 27 to 200 million humans currently enslaved worldwide. (Compare this to only four and a half million slaves at American slavery's peak.) Most of these slaves live in South Asia, Africa, and South America. Their labor comes far cheaper and is much more profitable than black American slavery was. In many horrifying cases, poverty-stricken women sell their vaginas on the black market and become lifelong sex slaves to fat, stinky men for as little as $1,500. In today's dollars, a black slave in the American South cost approximately $40,000.
Myth:
White "Indentured Servants" chose to come here and weren't treated as badly as black slaves
Fact:
Hundreds of thousands of white slaves were kidnapped and brought to America; their middle-passage death rates were comparable to those of black slaves; they were sold at auction and traded for livestock, they were routinely beaten—sometimes to death—and an estimated one half of them died before gaining freedom.It's possible that more whites came to America against their will than blacks.Historians from both ends of the political spectrum say that white slaves were treated worse than black slaves.
Let these racist and offensive facts sink in you dumb animals.
https://www.history.com/news/5-myths-about-slavery
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Originally Posted By Rebel012⏩
Is it supposed to be exactly equal? With no other factors thrown in such as the person charging the cop with a deadly weapon?And cops kill blacks far more disproportionately in comparison to their share of the overall population than they do whites or any other group.
“In addition to his other Asiatic characteristics, the Russian has no regard for human life and is an all out son of bitch, barbarian, and chronic drunk.”
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Originally Posted By frezKo⏩
Except most of this isn’t facts, it’s bull**** that he copied and pastedRepped.
I love how JayCucks counter argument is “you’re stupid” when he’s absolutely destroyed with facts.
I can already hear all the screeeching
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I love how JayCucks counter argument is “you’re stupid” when he’s absolutely destroyed with facts.
I can already hear all the screeeching
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
These are the real factts, make your argument with them
https://faculty.weber.edu/kmackay/se..._slavery_i.htm
06-26-2020, 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted By jhawk08⏩
We get it...you're a victim.Your continued attacks do nothing because you I both know you were begging to know what I do for a living when you were jobless. I actually felt sorry for you so I let you know when the next bid would be. But I already know you couldn't make it past the pysch test let alone even get to the academy.
Did you not read my long post about the reasons for each of the things you keep parroting? You never once countered any of my points, but went off on a random ranger YET AGAIN.
The war on drugs literally started in the 70s you imbecile. Nixons own administration has been recorded saying it was a way to disenfranchise and target blacks. All your other posts are highlighting my viewpoint. After civil rights the government still needed to keep tabs on blacks and policing was the way
Your randomly jumping around timeframes. First it's 1865, now it's 1990. Pull yourself together *******
Did you not read my long post about the reasons for each of the things you keep parroting? You never once countered any of my points, but went off on a random ranger YET AGAIN.
The war on drugs literally started in the 70s you imbecile. Nixons own administration has been recorded saying it was a way to disenfranchise and target blacks. All your other posts are highlighting my viewpoint. After civil rights the government still needed to keep tabs on blacks and policing was the way
Your randomly jumping around timeframes. First it's 1865, now it's 1990. Pull yourself together *******
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Originally Posted By PutangRocky⏩
33% to 50% owned slaves? That's a ridiculous statement and completely untrue. I don't give two fukks that the History Channel says so. Those cucks are intellectually dishonest and constantly release 'facts' that simply aren't true. Sometimes the falsehoods are outright lies, but they're typically a disingenuous, hard spin or lie by omission.I don't need to read the entire thing to know that’s it bull**** that you didn’t even fact source. Only 1% of Whites owned slaves? In the South, about a third of White families owned at least one slave and in some states, as much as half. If you’re going to make an argument, don’t pull up fake states from whatever bull**** site you copied and pasted that from
https://www.history.com/news/5-myths-about-slavery
https://www.history.com/news/5-myths-about-slavery
However, back to the point of slave owners. Even most Liberal historians agree that the total percentage of White slave owners were in the single digits. Some claim 1-2%, others as high as 8%, but most estimations fall somewhere between the two. Certainly nowhere close to half. Purchasing and owning slaves was extraordinarily expensive; not something that the general public could afford considering that the overwhelming majority of people lived in poverty.
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Originally Posted By ArchangelST⏩
You ignore the second link, you twat.33% to 50% owned slaves? That's a ridiculous statement and completely untrue. I don't give two fukks that the History Channel says so. Those cucks are intellectually dishonest and constantly release 'facts' that simply aren't true. Sometimes the falsehoods are outright lies, but they're typically a disingenuous, hard spin or lie by omission.
However, back to the point of slave owners. Even most Liberal historians agree that the total percentage of White slave owners were in the single digits. Some claim 1-2%, others as high as 8%, but most estimations fall somewhere between the two. Certainly nowhere close to half. Purchasing and owning slaves was extraordinarily expensive; not something that the general public could afford considering that the overwhelming majority of people lived in poverty.
However, back to the point of slave owners. Even most Liberal historians agree that the total percentage of White slave owners were in the single digits. Some claim 1-2%, others as high as 8%, but most estimations fall somewhere between the two. Certainly nowhere close to half. Purchasing and owning slaves was extraordinarily expensive; not something that the general public could afford considering that the overwhelming majority of people lived in poverty.
This is from 1860 Census data:
https://faculty.weber.edu/kmackay/se..._slavery_i.htm
It’s the truth. No liberal historian or any historian interested in a modicum of truth beloved your bull****.
A third of Southern families had at least one slave. Fact. Plantations were expensive but a single slave was not so expensive that a middle class farming family could not afford at least one. Also, 60% of the nation’s wealthiest men lived in the South.
The figure might get down to 8% if you consider individuals in the United States as a whole but you would have to come ignore the fact that slavery was illegal in the North, women rarely had the right to own anything in their own name, and children of course did not own slaves! Intellectually dishonest. Show me your sources
https://faculty.weber.edu/kmackay/se..._slavery_i.htm

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Originally Posted By PutangRocky⏩
I'm not going to dig through historical data to prove a point that is already widely accepted, but I'll offer this simple math problem.You ignore the second link, you twat.
This is from 1860 Census data:
https://faculty.weber.edu/kmackay/se..._slavery_i.htm
It’s the truth. No liberal historian or any historian interested in a modicum of truth beloved your bull****.
A third of Southern families had at least one slave. Fact. Plantations were expensive but a single slave was not so expensive that a middle class farming family could not afford at least one. Also, 60% of the nation’s wealthiest men lived in the South.
The figure might get down to 8% if you consider individuals in the United States as a whole but you would have to come ignore the fact that slavery was illegal in the North, women rarely had the right to own anything in their own name, and children of course did not own slaves! Intellectually dishonest. Show me your sources
https://faculty.weber.edu/kmackay/se..._slavery_i.htm

This is from 1860 Census data:
https://faculty.weber.edu/kmackay/se..._slavery_i.htm
It’s the truth. No liberal historian or any historian interested in a modicum of truth beloved your bull****.
A third of Southern families had at least one slave. Fact. Plantations were expensive but a single slave was not so expensive that a middle class farming family could not afford at least one. Also, 60% of the nation’s wealthiest men lived in the South.
The figure might get down to 8% if you consider individuals in the United States as a whole but you would have to come ignore the fact that slavery was illegal in the North, women rarely had the right to own anything in their own name, and children of course did not own slaves! Intellectually dishonest. Show me your sources
https://faculty.weber.edu/kmackay/se..._slavery_i.htm

In 1850 (15 years before abolishment) the population of the U.S. was roughly 25 million. The TOTAL number of recorded slaves ever imported to the U.S. was roughly 600,000. I'll even spot you another 100k in possible unrecorded smuggling operations.
700k imported over 200 years of slaving. By 1850, the total number of slaves in the U.S. had increased to slightly over 3 million resulting from generational growth, but even then your figures are a literal impossibility. Especially when the plantations of the South housed a huge percentage of those slaves.
And no, most normal families could not afford a single slave. In 1850, the cost of an average, healthy male slave age 20-50 was $400-$800 (or $13,000 to $26,000 adjusted for inflation). Children, women, the old, and the sick were less costly, but slaves were still out of reach for MOST people.
You have no idea what you're talking about.
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Originally Posted By ArchangelST⏩
You have no idea what you’re talking about. As I said before, the real intellectual dishonesty is ignoring that most of the population was composed of family units where women and children had no ownership rights. The real intellectual dishonesty is ignoring the fact that slavery was illegal in the North. How many adult White men lived in States were it was legal to own a slave? That number is far less than 25 million, it’s a lot less than the 6 million Whites that lived in the South.I'm not going to dig through historical data to prove a point that is already widely accepted, but I'll offer this simple math problem.
In 1850 (15 years before abolishment) the population of the U.S. was roughly 25 million. The TOTAL number of recorded slaves ever imported to the U.S. was roughly 600,000. I'll even spot you another 100k in possible unrecorded smuggling operations.
700k imported over 200 years of slaving. By 1850, the total number of slaves in the U.S. had increased to slightly over 3 million resulting from generational growth, but even then your figures are a literal impossibility. Especially when the plantations of the South housed a huge percentage of those slaves.
And no, most normal families could not afford a single slave. In 1850, the cost of an average, healthy male slave age 20-50 was $400-$800 (or $13,000 to $26,000 adjusted for inflation). Children, women, the old, and the sick were less costly, but slaves were still out of reach for MOST people.
You have no idea what you're talking about.
In 1850 (15 years before abolishment) the population of the U.S. was roughly 25 million. The TOTAL number of recorded slaves ever imported to the U.S. was roughly 600,000. I'll even spot you another 100k in possible unrecorded smuggling operations.
700k imported over 200 years of slaving. By 1850, the total number of slaves in the U.S. had increased to slightly over 3 million resulting from generational growth, but even then your figures are a literal impossibility. Especially when the plantations of the South housed a huge percentage of those slaves.
And no, most normal families could not afford a single slave. In 1850, the cost of an average, healthy male slave age 20-50 was $400-$800 (or $13,000 to $26,000 adjusted for inflation). Children, women, the old, and the sick were less costly, but slaves were still out of reach for MOST people.
You have no idea what you're talking about.
If you actually looked at the link I showed with state from 1860, census, the yearly income of White family in the South far exceeded the cost of a single slave. It was nearly $4k a year. You’re telling me that someone would not a car that was worth 10% of their income even it made their lives 10x easier?
So you’ll refuse to look at statistical because it proves you wrong. You’re pulling numbers out of you ass without any links to where you got them because every fact-based source will tell you the same thing I said. You’re sad.
I suppose I’ll just have to copy and past the entire thing for you.
(unless otherwise noted, all data is as of the 1860 census)
Total number of slaves in the Lower South : 2,312,352 (47% of total population).
Total number of slaves in the Upper South: 1,208758 (29% of total population).
Total number of slaves in the Border States: 432,586 (13% of total population).
Almost one-third of all Southern families owned slaves. In Mississippi and South Carolina it approached one half. The total number of slave owners was 385,000 (including, in Louisiana, some free Negroes). As for the number of slaves owned by each master, 88% held fewer than twenty, and nearly 50% held fewer than five. (A complete table on slave-owning percentages is given at the bottom of this page.)
For comparison's sake, let it be noted that in the 1950's, only 2% of American families owned corporation stocks equal in value to the 1860 value of a single slave. Thus, slave ownership was much more widespread in the South than corporate investment was in 1950's America.
On a typical plantation (more than 20 slaves) the capital value of the slaves was greater than the capital value of the land and implements.
Confederate enlistment data is incomplete because many records were lost when the South collapsed, but it is possible to estimate, very loosely, the number of men in the Confederate army who came from slave-holding families. For this discussion, click here.
Slavery was profitable, although a large part of the profit was in the increased value of the slaves themselves. With only 30% of the nation's (free) population, the South had 60% of the "wealthiest men." The 1860 per capita income in the South was $3,978; in the North it was $2,040.
Census data can be appealed to in order to determine the extent of slave ownership in each of the states that allowed it in 1860. The figures given here are the percentage of slave-owning families as a fraction of total free households in the state. The data was taken from a census archive site at the University of Virginia.
Mississippi: 49%
South Carolina: 46%
Georgia: 37%
Alabama: 35%
Florida: 34%
Louisiana: 29%
Texas: 28%
North Carolina: 28%
Virginia: 26%
Tennessee: 25%
Kentucky: 23%
Arkansas: 20%
Missouri: 13%
Maryland: 12%
Delaware: 3%
In the Lower South (SC, GA, AL, MS, LA, TX, FL -- those states that seceded first), about 36.7% of the white families owned slaves. In the Middle South (VA, NC, TN, AR -- those states that seceded only after Fort Sumter was fired on) the percentage is around 25.3%, and the total for the two combined regions -- which is what most folks think of as the Confederacy -- is 30.8%. In the Border States (DE, MD, KY, MO -- those slave states that did not secede) the percentage of slave-ownership was 15.9%, and the total throughout the slave states was almost exactly 26%.
Total number of slaves in the Lower South : 2,312,352 (47% of total population).
Total number of slaves in the Upper South: 1,208758 (29% of total population).
Total number of slaves in the Border States: 432,586 (13% of total population).
Almost one-third of all Southern families owned slaves. In Mississippi and South Carolina it approached one half. The total number of slave owners was 385,000 (including, in Louisiana, some free Negroes). As for the number of slaves owned by each master, 88% held fewer than twenty, and nearly 50% held fewer than five. (A complete table on slave-owning percentages is given at the bottom of this page.)
For comparison's sake, let it be noted that in the 1950's, only 2% of American families owned corporation stocks equal in value to the 1860 value of a single slave. Thus, slave ownership was much more widespread in the South than corporate investment was in 1950's America.
On a typical plantation (more than 20 slaves) the capital value of the slaves was greater than the capital value of the land and implements.
Confederate enlistment data is incomplete because many records were lost when the South collapsed, but it is possible to estimate, very loosely, the number of men in the Confederate army who came from slave-holding families. For this discussion, click here.
Slavery was profitable, although a large part of the profit was in the increased value of the slaves themselves. With only 30% of the nation's (free) population, the South had 60% of the "wealthiest men." The 1860 per capita income in the South was $3,978; in the North it was $2,040.
Census data can be appealed to in order to determine the extent of slave ownership in each of the states that allowed it in 1860. The figures given here are the percentage of slave-owning families as a fraction of total free households in the state. The data was taken from a census archive site at the University of Virginia.
Mississippi: 49%
South Carolina: 46%
Georgia: 37%
Alabama: 35%
Florida: 34%
Louisiana: 29%
Texas: 28%
North Carolina: 28%
Virginia: 26%
Tennessee: 25%
Kentucky: 23%
Arkansas: 20%
Missouri: 13%
Maryland: 12%
Delaware: 3%
In the Lower South (SC, GA, AL, MS, LA, TX, FL -- those states that seceded first), about 36.7% of the white families owned slaves. In the Middle South (VA, NC, TN, AR -- those states that seceded only after Fort Sumter was fired on) the percentage is around 25.3%, and the total for the two combined regions -- which is what most folks think of as the Confederacy -- is 30.8%. In the Border States (DE, MD, KY, MO -- those slave states that did not secede) the percentage of slave-ownership was 15.9%, and the total throughout the slave states was almost exactly 26%.
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Its true though, they are ruining not just society but humanity. If our forefathers who fought for this country in world war 1 and 2 (among every other war) could see us now and feel emotion they would probably feel regret for dying for us because they werent a bunch of pansies and shiet stains like these liberals and blm people.
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LOL op is a ****
It’s simple
Here people are able to think critically so we will call out all the bullchit
And it’s so happens that the new backward bullchit being pushed is some liberal Marxist agenda and the worships of black .
Which is again for any normal critically thinking person absurd and very dangerous for society.
Go phuck yourself op
It’s simple
Here people are able to think critically so we will call out all the bullchit
And it’s so happens that the new backward bullchit being pushed is some liberal Marxist agenda and the worships of black .
Which is again for any normal critically thinking person absurd and very dangerous for society.
Go phuck yourself op
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Misc has always been racist, it's full of dumb ass righties
Hey idiot, Im knot knowing his style. Maybe his free. Maybe the dog in his crew, perhaps not....im not God or psychic idiot. Experience my neg.
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Originally Posted By PutangRocky⏩
I clicked the link so I haven't "refused" to look at anything.You have no idea what you’re talking about. As I said before, the real intellectual dishonesty is ignoring that most of the population was composed of family units where women and children had no ownership rights. The real intellectual dishonesty is ignoring the fact that slavery was illegal in the North. How many adult White men lived in States were it was legal to own a slave? That number is far less than 25 million, it’s a lot less than the 6 million Whites that lived in the South.
If you actually looked at the link I showed with state from 1860, census, the yearly income of White family in the South far exceeded the cost of a single slave. It was nearly $4k a year. You’re telling me that someone would not a car that was worth 10% of their income even it made their lives 10x easier?
So you’ll refuse to look at statistical because it proves you wrong. You’re pulling numbers out of you ass without any links to where you got them because every fact-based source will tell you the same thing I said. You’re sad.
I suppose I’ll just have to copy and past the entire thing for you.
If you actually looked at the link I showed with state from 1860, census, the yearly income of White family in the South far exceeded the cost of a single slave. It was nearly $4k a year. You’re telling me that someone would not a car that was worth 10% of their income even it made their lives 10x easier?
So you’ll refuse to look at statistical because it proves you wrong. You’re pulling numbers out of you ass without any links to where you got them because every fact-based source will tell you the same thing I said. You’re sad.
I suppose I’ll just have to copy and past the entire thing for you.
It's impossible to take anything you say seriously when you say things like -- "Slavery was illegal in the North." Slavery was legal throughout the country until the very early 1800s when it was formally abolished (only about 60 years before the ban went nationwide), but it didn't end completely for quite a number of years later. For example, indentured servants lasted for decades in the North after abolishment.
You keep trying to resize your argument so that it'll fit in to the tiny, little box of ONLY adults able to own land, in the South. My argument has never been statistics specifically regarding the South. What I said, if you go back and read you'd see, is that the total number of eligible slave owning Americans was in the single digits (percentile).
You also expose how much of a fool you are when flippantly discuss the household economics of the average 1850 household. I don't disagree that the GROSS household income was in the low thousands; that's relatively accurate. However, there was very little left week over week and slaves weren't like modern cars that you could finance for 72 months. Furthermore, it doesn't matter that a slave was "only 10% of their total income." You're a total retard for arguing it in such terms. The reality is that most people simply didn't have 10% to 20% of their gross earnings on hand at any point. Hiring a chef, maid, or chauffeur would make a lot of modern lives infinitely easier, but they can't afford them either. To further illustrate - How many modern households making 75k-100k could come up with 20k (modern pricing for a slave) in cash? Very, very few.
I couldn't care less if you reply or don't. I'm done wasting time on a truly pointless debate. This isn't my first rodeo, I've actually studied and written several papers about slavery. I'm not "Google" warring with you.
Here's a low-effort bone
https://eh.net/encyclopedia/slavery-...united-states/
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Living whites don't owe a ****ing thing to living blacks.
Come take it by force if you believe we do.
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Come take it by force if you believe we do.
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Originally Posted By meep316⏩
Used to mean people who dislike people of other races and/or think their race is superior.The word "racist" has become completely devoid of any meaning whatsoever.
Now you can be a racist for being blind to racial differences, or for thinking that all lives matter, or for sharing statistics about crime or police malpractice.
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