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Thread: St Louis AG wants to charge based sperry brah and his wife for defending themselves

post 1609211751 06-30-2020, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted By peterplsss⏩
PRIVATE PROPERTY. How the fuk is this even an issue
You don't see where this is leading? they want wealth redistribution. Gonna be illegal to defend your self if Democrats win.
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post 1609211881 06-30-2020, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted By swoleyo⏩
You don't see where this is leading? they want wealth redistribution. Gonna be illegal to defend your self if Democrats win.
You guys didn't see A1's post? If you're a part of HOA you don't have a right to defend your gated neighborhood? I mean that's obvious, right?

I LOVE how some people will just accept a roshambo as "fair enough." Just add an extra legal step in there and they're fine with you taking away their rights.
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Originally Posted By SeymourGains⏩
thats a lot of words to say youre siding with the mob
It's a lot of words to say "Miscers are overly credulous of their preferred narrative and tend to believe the law reads like a movie script".
Originally Posted By OliverHeldens⏩
Without a doubt they’d beat any type of charge. After the events taking place in weeks leading up, they certainly had a reasonable suspicion to believe they were in danger.
There's a fair case to be made that they had a good faith belief they were defending their property, even if they technically were not. Wildly waving guns at people standing on the sidewalk, however, is a lot to ask people to accept when the facts tend toward them fabricating all their extraordinarily dramatic claims about what happened. Based on what's available now, it's closer to Texas Machetebrah sperging out and getting beaten down in a fight the police correctly determined he started.

If the sidewalk really is private HOA property, the protesters should definitely be charged, but lots of people live in HOAs with privately-held common spaces. It doesn't mean they have any authority to threaten non-residents with deadly weapons for being in them. Reading the statute, there'd be very little argument for a crime here if they'd just exercised potato-level muzzle discipline.

Both sides can be guilty of crimes at the same time, over the same incident.
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"Police union stunned no charges filed in CWE shooting caught on tape"

https://www.kmov.com/news/police-uni...553b5360f.html

Same AG
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Originally Posted By DDSF1⏩
Please tell me you are joking.

I was going to watch them on Tucker’s show tonight with such joy.
well their attorney says they do, thatll be a good watch either way

"Their attorney, Albert Watkins, told The Associated Press on Monday that the couple are long-time civil rights advocates and support the message of the Black Lives Matter movement. He said they grabbed their guns when two or three protesters - who were white - violently threatened the couple and their property and that of their neighbors."
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Decent, normal people will eventually start moving out of these liberal run cities. This chaos may be bring balance to our society where dumb people are exposed and smart people will start taking over.
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Originally Posted By ANumber1⏩
It's a lot of words to say "Miscers are overly credulous of their preferred narrative and tend to believe the law reads like a movie script".



There's a fair case to be made that they had a good faith belief they were defending their property, even if they technically were not. Wildly waving guns at people standing on the sidewalk, however, is a lot to ask people to accept when the facts tend toward them fabricating all their extraordinarily dramatic claims about what happened. Based on what's available now, it's closer to Texas Machetebrah sperging out and getting beaten down in a fight the police correctly determined he started.

If the sidewalk really is private HOA property, the protesters should definitely be charged, but lots of people live in HOAs with privately-held common spaces. It doesn't mean they have any authority to threaten non-residents with deadly weapons for being in them. Reading the statute, there'd be very little argument for a crime here if they'd just exercised potato-level muzzle discipline.

Both sides can be guilty of crimes at the same time, over the same incident.
They committed a forceable felony to get on that property...
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It's obvious where this is going. They want 'peaceful protestors' to be able to kill you and burn your house down without reprise, and if you resist you'll be the ones who get arrested.

Good luck if Trump loses in November.
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I'd love to see this idiot AG try to prosecute these two extremely successful and wealthy lawyers lmfao
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Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
Oh chit bro I didn't realize the angry mob didn't break the gate. Oh whats that you say, they were peaceful, oh excuse me. I thought, since they were identifying with what appears to be a violent movement and trespassing, that they were not peaceful. But I can see with your reasoning that they did not break the gate and will believe whole heartedly the "before" pictures LMAO.
Uh-huh.





They claimed that a "horde" of people smashed the gate to pieces and poured through it, coming toward them.

They claimed that they were eating dinner and asked the protesters to leave before arming themselves. They've also claimed that they were threatened by armed people in body armor, threatening to kill them, their dog, burn their house, and burn their office.

Their attorney made a statement that they witnessed two individuals violently ripping the gate, who subsequently charged them and threatened them, and that this is the point at which they initially became frightened.

Unfortunately, most of the homeowners' story is a blatant lie. In fact, the gate was opened, undamaged, and he was seemingly already armed and training a rifle on them on people walking past their home as soon as they entered the neighborhood.
Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
They committed a forceable felony to get on that property...
I am unaware of any state that defines opening a gate, even a locked one, as a forcible felony. The classics are rape, robbery, arson, and murder. Please elaborate.

EDIT: Missouri Laws 563.011.

"'Forcible felony', any felony involving the use or threat of physical force or violence against any individual, including but not limited to murder, robbery, burglary, arson, kidnapping, assault, and any forcible sexual offense;"

Who'd they rape to get in there?

It's very likely, based on the facts we have, and assuming that the sidewalk actually has some enforceable private status, that they committed misdemeanor first degree trespassing. Guess who may haveactuallycommitted a forcible felony on camera?
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Originally Posted By adamsz⏩
Investigating =/= charging

Hopefully she’s just virtue signaling and it doesnt actually progress to that
Look at her face. Her lack of hair. This is a grotesque being that hates everything and wants everybody to suffer as she does.
Originally Posted By ANumber1⏩
Uh-huh.





They claimed that a "horde" of people smashed the gate to pieces and poured through it, coming toward them.

They claimed that they were eating dinner and asked the protesters to leave before arming themselves. They've also claimed that they were threatened by armed people in body armor, threatening to kill them, their dog, burn their house, and burn their office.

Their attorney made a statement that they witnessed two individuals violently ripping the gate, who subsequently charged them and threatened them, and that this is the point at which they initially became frightened.

Unfortunately, most of the homeowners' story is a blatant lie. In fact, the gate was opened, undamaged, and he was already armed and training a rifle on them on people walking past their home as soon as they entered the neighborhood.



I am unaware of any state that defines opening a gate, even a locked one, as a forcible felony. The typical forcible felonies are rape, robbery, arson, and murder. Please elaborate.
Your arguments in appeal to the letter of the law are in blatant disagreement with the spirit of the law. Regardless of the details you are nitpicking, no man should have to suffer a pack of violent people coming onto his property and threatening him. You claim they "dindu nuffin", but everybody knows that they had malicious intent, knows that they mean ill-will to those who have what they do not, knows that they are reckless lowlifes. Argue with specific definitions of things all you want, it doesn't change the fact that good, reasonable men see that what the man did is entirely justified. Your appeal to byzantine written laws in order to justify your argument, rather than an appeal to common sense and the natural laws that men live by and judge each other by unconsciously, shows how intellectually bankrupt you are, how disconnected from reality you've become. You no longer think in terms of what is right, or what makes sense, instead trying to justify harm to a man defending himself and his property from violent interlopers with any excuse you can pull out of your ass.
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Originally Posted By ANumber1⏩
Uh-huh.





They claimed that a "horde" of people smashed the gate to pieces and poured through it, coming toward them.

They claimed that they were eating dinner and asked the protesters to leave before arming themselves. They've also claimed that they were threatened by armed people in body armor, threatening to kill them, their dog, burn their house, and burn their office.

Their attorney made a statement that they witnessed two individuals violently ripping the gate, who subsequently charged them and threatened them, and that this is the point at which they initially became frightened.

Unfortunately, most of the homeowners' story is a blatant lie. In fact, the gate was opened, undamaged, and he was already armed and training a rifle on them on people walking past their home as soon as they entered the neighborhood.



I am unaware of any state that defines opening a gate, even a locked one, as a forcible felony. The typical forcible felonies are rape, robbery, arson, and murder. Please elaborate.
Has there been any recent history of "peaceful" groups of people protesting and endangering life or property? I am trying to think of any recent examples of people protesting that resulted in otherwise innocent people having their property stolen, destroyed, or burned. Please help me if you can think of an example.


If making a mob of people in front of your house aware that you plan to defend your property is a crime, then welcome to another chapter of Clown World.
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Originally Posted By ANumber1⏩
Uh-huh.





They claimed that a "horde" of people smashed the gate to pieces and poured through it, coming toward them.

They claimed that they were eating dinner and asked the protesters to leave before arming themselves. They've also claimed that they were threatened by armed people in body armor, threatening to kill them, their dog, burn their house, and burn their office.

Their attorney made a statement that they witnessed two individuals violently ripping the gate, who subsequently charged them and threatened them, and that this is the point at which they initially became frightened.

Unfortunately, most of the homeowners' story is a blatant lie. In fact, the gate was opened, undamaged, and he was seemingly already armed and training a rifle on them on people walking past their home as soon as they entered the neighborhood.



I am unaware of any state that defines opening a gate, even a locked one, as a forcible felony. The classics are rape, robbery, arson, and murder. Please elaborate.

EDIT: Missouri Laws 563.011.

"'Forcible felony', any felony involving the use or threat of physical force or violence against any individual, including but not limited to murder, robbery, burglary, arson, kidnapping, assault, and any forcible sexual offense;"

Who'd they rape to get in there? Guess who may haveactuallycommitted a forcible felony on camera?
Ah glad you could display your bias so willingly.

An incited, angry mobbreaking and entering is most definitely a force-able felonyas you'd assume their intent is to harm. That's not even debatable. The law you cited doesn't exclude it. You keep rehashing arguments as if they reinforce your position and it only waters it down.

I've no doubt that crowd caused the damage to the gate. Just to be clear, are you claiming it's staged?
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Originally Posted By ANumber1⏩
Uh-huh.





They claimed that a "horde" of people smashed the gate to pieces and poured through it, coming toward them.

They claimed that they were eating dinner and asked the protesters to leave before arming themselves. They've also claimed that they were threatened by armed people in body armor, threatening to kill them, their dog, burn their house, and burn their office.

Their attorney made a statement that they witnessed two individuals violently ripping the gate, who subsequently charged them and threatened them, and that this is the point at which they initially became frightened.

Unfortunately, most of the homeowners' story is a lie. In fact, the gate was opened, undamaged, and he was already armed and training a rifle on them on people walking past their home as soon as they entered the neighborhood.
They marched into a private property with no trespassing sign on it. I can't believe more people didn't do this. I'm sure they're paying pretty high HOA. Where were they at?
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Brb.

Break onto your property
Threaten to kill you and your family
You brandish firearm.

No YOU are the violent criminal. These BLM terrorists have murdered 15 people since the garbage started.

Also shes a racist.
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Originally Posted By SeymourGains⏩
alright whose shill is this anumber1 guy?
Not sure, but he needs to hike down his skirt, his left is showing.
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Someone take the gun from that old lady, she has no idea wtf she's doing srs.
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Let this be a motivator for anyone out there that is young enough still to seek out some of these "prestigious" positions in government. They are largely held by extremely low IQ individuals.
She isnt stupid. She knows exactly what shes doing. Same reason she has been letting the rioters out of jail - they are testing the waters for a Marxist purge.
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I'd like to peacefully kick any kunt in the face that thinks these people did anything wrong.
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Originally Posted By Cudabrah⏩
Has there been any recent history of "peaceful" groups of people protesting and endangering life or property? I am trying to think of any recent examples of people protesting that resulted in otherwise innocent people having their property stolen, destroyed, or burned. Please help me if you can think of an example. If making a mob of people in front of your house aware that you plan to defend your property is a crime, then welcome to another chapter of Clown World.
Defensive display is totally understandable here, but that wasn't what this was. Wife actually came down off the porch to get up close to them and aim a pistol at their heads for standing on the sidewalk. At no point did they seem to be making anyone "aware they plan to defend their property". They were repeatedly trying to verbally trespass them out of the entire neighborhood, which they do not own.

Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
An incited, angry mobbreaking and entering is most definitely a force-able felonyas you'd assume their intent is to harm. That's not even debatable. The law you cited doesn't exclude it. You keep rehashing arguments as if they reinforce your position and it only waters it down.
Missouri law does exclude it, because a B&E of a posted fence gate 1) is not violence nor a threat of violence against an individual, and 2) is simply not a felony in Missouri, nor in most states, despite Missouri having some very broad property defense laws.
I've no doubt that crowd caused the damage to the gate. Just to be clear, are you claiming it's staged?
I am claiming exactly what I already said: it is proven that the homeowners were lying about the gate. It was not relevant to their justification for aiming firearms at people on their sidewalk, because it didn't happen. Playing guessing games about what happened to it later is fun but doesn't matter. They're also now almost worthless as witnesses in their own defense.
Originally Posted By Mercworx⏩
Break onto your property
Threaten to kill you and your family
You brandish firearm.
Fake news. Nobody on your property. Nobody threatening you. You brandish firearm and try to intimidate them off the sidewalk.
Nah, fukk that. I’m not doing that.
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Originally Posted By PenorBrahNoHomo⏩
It's obvious where this is going. They want 'peaceful protestors' to be able to kill you and burn your house down without reprise, and if you resist you'll be the ones who get arrested.

Good luck if Trump loses in November.
I think it'll be worse if Trump wins.

The left wasn't doing this when Obama was in office. They had their guy doing/supporting their ideas. They were getting their way legally. They're not able to do that as easily with Trump as the President, so they have to resort to this. If Biden wins (and especially if the Dems were to take the House too) they wouldn't be violent, because "their guy" would be in power and they'd believe (whether they're right or not) that he is going to do things their way.
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Originally Posted By ANumber1⏩
Defensive display is totally understandable here, but that wasn't what this was. Wife actually came down off the porch to get up close to them and aim a pistol at their heads for standing on the sidewalk.

That's not a public sidewalk you ****ing tard. It's their property, i.e., they are criminally trespassing. Who is paying you to be so disingenuous and stupid?

If this was Texas, all those "protestors" could have taken a .223 to the head and it wouldn't be illegal.



I'll wait for the copypasta "legal" reply that PROVES these were just a bunch of engineers and doctors going for a leisurely stroll before they were threatened by some evil white devils.
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Originally Posted By Leonydus⏩
apparently they(the home defenders) made a statement and blamed white people for the invasion, and that they whole-heartedly support BLM. just fkn LOL
Confirmed on CNN apparently


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Originally Posted By ANumber1⏩
Fake news. Nobody on your property. Nobody threatening you. You brandish firearm and try to intimidate them off the sidewalk.
These people have proven time and time again that they ARE a threat regardless of what they may have been doing at that exact moment. With the flip of a switch they can go from being peaceful (LMFAO) to burning down their house.

If you're out to peacefully (LMFAO) protest, you don't need to open up a gate to a private area. The only reason to is to stir up trouble.

Quit being a fuking ******* and defending protesters.
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Originally Posted By OliverHeldens⏩
Without a doubt they’d beat any type of charge. After the events taking place in weeks leading up, they certainly had a reasonable suspicion to believe they were in danger.
As if reality would have any influence on the outcome of the case...

You think they drew the line at wacko commie attorney generals? No, they appoint wacko commie judges too. The law as it is written is a product of WHITE SUPREMACY, and it is their duty to subvert it and pursue some other kind of imaginary cosmic justice by crushing the rich white people.
They got little baby legs that stand so low
you got to pick 'em up just to say hello.
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