how about if marijuana is used as a medication for anxiety, depression and numerous other issues, and the fact that it can actually help you drive and concentrate better? many athletes use marijuana as a performance enhancer because it helps you concentrate and focus alot more, i can go back and find joe rogans podcasts about marijuana used as a performance enhancer., some people actually need marijuana to function on a day to day basis, to assume it impairs you is ignorant and in fact the opposite in many cases

you realize even with a prescription I can't snort my ***** while driving, right?

It should have been deescalated.

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It was the backup that told them to turn their body cam off. It’s exactly at the 9 minute mark.

Why are the police officers telling him not to reach for a gun and then asking where it is after he’s been mortally shot, multiple times. They clearly have zero idea if there’s a gun there, and while officers need to be concerned for their own lives and going home, these officers are clowns.

Never would have pulled a gun in this situation.

because when you get in a fist fight and fire your weapon, your adrenaline is dumped, your hearing is ****ed, guns can fall/bounce/etc -- why wouldn't they ask him?

he told them where the gun was and then got in a fist fight with the cop, and then tried to drive the car off while they were laying in the front seat on the gun. you're legit retarded if you think he wasn't grabbing that gun.

because when you get in a fist fight and fire your weapon, your adrenaline is dumped, your hearing is ****ed, guns can fall/bounce/etc -- why wouldn't they ask him?

he told them where the gun was and then got in a fist fight with the cop, and then tried to drive the car off while they were laying in the front seat on the gun. you're legit retarded if you think he wasn't grabbing that gun.

how about if marijuana is used as a medication for anxiety, depression and numerous other issues, and the fact that it can actually help you drive and concentrate better? many athletes use marijuana as a performance enhancer because it helps you concentrate and focus alot more, i can go back and find joe rogans podcasts about marijuana used as a performance enhancer., some people actually need marijuana to function on a day to day basis, to assume it impairs you is ignorant and in fact the opposite in many cases

How is a scene “secure” when someone is dying?

The officers clearly indicated there was a potential firearm around before the suspect died, how is an unidentified firearm “secure”.



It should have been deescalated.

99% of the police shootings I see are justified, and I can’t imagine dealing with violent people and worried about coming home safe to a family, although I have dealt with violent people, had knives pulled on me and had a gun pulled on me twice. All of those situations got taken care of without anyone being significantly hurt.

Biggest thing when I was bouncing was people joked around about me being roadhouse. I told them it’s a people skill job.

You’re friendly with people, you control the situation, and occasionally you do have to fuk people up, but you give them the friendly option first.

I’ve had a revolver pressed against my chest and told them to relax and they just needed to calm down.

They did, we pulled the gun and some unfortunate things happened to them behind closed doors.

I guess we don’t all have big cocks lol.

Not that I'm arguing with the way this all went down, but it was my understanding in FL you could have a firearm in the car even without a CC permit, though I believe its supposed to be stored in a glove compartment or a similar compartment.

EDIT: Yup:

"A question I am asked frequently is, “Is it legal for me to carry a firearm in a car if I don’t have a Concealed Weapons’ Permit”? The simple answer is, “yes”, but with certain conditions. Chapter 790.01 generally prohibits the carrying of a concealed weapon, or firearm, on your person or in your conveyance without a permit. Carrying a concealed weapon other than a firearm is a first degree misdemeanor, while carrying a concealed firearm is a third degree felony.The grey area often falls in the safe transport of firearms while still having access to them. Obviously, most people will transport handguns in a box or a holster, often in the glove box, center console or backseat of a car. You may also have seen shotguns and rifles displayed openly in the back rack of pickup truck. This is legal and falls in the, “private conveyance” exception of Florida firearms law as covered in Section 790.25(5) Florida Statutes. That law states that it is legal to have a concealed firearm within the interior of a private conveyance, without a license, if the firearm or other weapon is securely encased or is otherwise not readily accessible for immediate use. The law also expressly allows the possession and storage of rifles or shotguns inthe interior space of car or truck when in plain view. The question, however, gets tricky on secure storage of handgun. When is it illegally concealed? To clarify the law, the legislature defined securely encased as, “a glove compartment, whether or not locked; snapped in a holster; in a gun case, whether or not locked; in a zippered gun case; or in a closed box or container which requires a lid or cover to be opened for access.” The legislature further defined readily accessible for immediate use as if, “a firearm or other weapon is carried on the person or within such close proximity and in such a manner that it can be retrieved and used as easily and quickly as if carried on the person.” If this still seems a bit ambiguous, I am in total agreement with you and would air on the side of caution. My advice has always been to obtain the Concealed Carry Permit and avoid any miscalculations. Still, according to Florida Law, you can possess a loaded firearm in a glove box or a holster or a zippered case within your car, truck or RV. In no event, however, does this exception allow citizens to possess weapons or firearms of any sort into secure prohibited areas, as defined in Section 790.06(12)(a), Florida Statutes. If you have any questions, or if you have been charged with a gun crime, feel free to contact us and, as always, be careful."

It was the backup that told them to turn their body cam off. It’s exactly at the 9 minute mark.

Why are the police officers telling him not to reach for a gun and then asking where it is after he’s been mortally shot, multiple times. They clearly have zero idea if there’s a gun there, and while officers need to be concerned for their own lives and going home, these officers are clowns.

The police here have zero control of the situation. He’s moving because he’s been shot.

I understand for a police officer that everyday is scary, and they deal with chit that a pedestrian doesn’t normally deal with, but I worked as a bouncer for 3 years in two of the cities with the highest murder rates in the country and dealt with drunks daily, people on other chemicals. People coked out, brawls.

Never would have pulled a gun in this situation.

a) How is a scene “secure” when someone is dying?

b) It should have been deescalated.

c) 99% of the police shootings I see are justified, and I can’t imagine dealing with violent people and worried about coming home safe to a family, although I have dealt with violent people, had knives pulled on me and had a gun pulled on me twice. All of those situations got taken care of without anyone being significantly hurt.

Biggest thing when I was bouncing was people joked around about me being roadhouse. I told them it’s a people skill job.

You’re friendly with people, you control the situation, and occasionally you do have to fuk people up, but you give them the friendly option first.

What is your point? That is exactly what the officer told him. It has to be locked up and not readily accessible, which is the opposite of sitting in his jacket pocket within arms reach.



As a bouncer, were you ready to imprison anyone for the years of their life or PERHAPS the worst that was going to happen to someone is they wouldn't get the opportunity to pay way too much for drinks at your bar? Get some perspective before you expose yourself as an idiot.

You know how cops often say "keep your hands where I can see them" because someone might have a gun and they don't know? Yeah, that's why they said "don't reach for the gun" meaning "don't reach for anything because I don't know where that gun ended up"

Also, I see you noticed all the details after they shot the guy EXCEPT the one detail where the cops "had no control" yet somehow never fired another shot after the initial few rounds.



a) The suspect is down, gun isn't going to shoot itself. Scene secure.
b) How did the cop do ANYTHING to escalate this confrontation? He handled everything with ease, respect for the person as a human, and friendliness. Cop had the situation completely under control until the criminal attacked him out of nowhere, dove back into his car for his gun, and hit the gas to almost drive himself and the cop into a house.
c) You wouldn't last a week as a cop. Oh wait, I forgot you were a bouncer so you got a lock on how to deal with people.

Literally all he had to tell him was “buddy yeah grab your ID, let’s put you
In a safe place in the back of my car and let’s have a conversation, the weed I won’t document, the seatbelt isn’t that big of a deal but let’s get you to my car and we’ll chill and talk”

Problem solved. Now the driver is dead and the cop may unfortunately lose his job, which isn’t fair, but it’s the result of today’s society.

OOOHHHHH, I see. So the cop should have just let him grab his ID (even though the cop was nice enough to let him grab his phone) and none of this would have happened. Or he should have treated a grown adult like a baby and maybe cradled him in his arms and made him feel better.

Get fckd, pal. This man made his choice and he dealt with the consequences of that choice. If people started caring a little bit more about taking care of themselves instead of spending all their time coming up with reasons their problems aren't their fault maybe they'd solve some of those problems and society would be better than it what is has devolved into.

Lol, your driving is impaired and you know it. You may feel like you're "driving better" because you're "more focused" but your reaction time if something was to happen is impaired.

How is a scene “secure” when someone is dying?

The officers clearly indicated there was a potential firearm around before the suspect died, how is an unidentified firearm “secure”.



It should have been deescalated.

99% of the police shootings I see are justified, and I can’t imagine dealing with violent people and worried about coming home safe to a family, although I have dealt with violent people, had knives pulled on me and had a gun pulled on me twice. All of those situations got taken care of without anyone being significantly hurt.

Biggest thing when I was bouncing was people joked around about me being roadhouse. I told them it’s a people skill job.

You’re friendly with people, you control the situation, and occasionally you do have to fuk people up, but you give them the friendly option first.

Clown world. We're in a world where 1 side is trying to keep the public safe by take care of the criminals, we have criminals selling drugs on the street and killing each other and innocent people. And when the good guys try to take the bad guys and the bad guys resist, we say that the way to solve this is by having less of the good guys and giving the bad guys more freedom.

Because this is what it's about, it's about people wanting to do good vs bad. Anyone who's lived in a bad neighbourhood and is not the criminal themselves would know this.

The Mayor got a taste of that, it's easy to be a soft loving liberal lefty when the problem is quite far from you.

These cops are literally risking their lives to keep your ass safe.

As someone that clearly has never had a gun pulled on them, the last thing you want to do is rush them. You can have an accidental or intentional fire off.

You step back for cover. Use your aim that someone fumbling in a car doesn’t have, the protection of the door, and the timing to get your safety off and aim properly before firing a lethal shot.

If you don’t understand that basic logic then wtf.

Literally all he had to tell him was “buddy yeah grab your ID, let’s put you
In a safe place in the back of my car and let’s have a conversation, the weed I won’t document, the seatbelt isn’t that big of a deal but let’s get you to my car and we’ll chill and talk, we’re going to search it but just chill. For both of our protection I need to put you in cuffs, but after that let’s forget about these minor things, but I need you to turn around. Cuffs, done.

Problem solved. Now instead, the driver is dead and the cop may unfortunately lose his job, which isn’t fair, but it’s the result of today’s society.

Semi unrelated but isnt Florida an open carry state? Cant someone have their legally owned firearms out and easily accessible to meet the open carry standard? Just curious.

I'm beginning to suspect that you didn't even watch the video. The criminal doesn't have a gun in his hand, he is lunging for one. If someone goes for a gun that isn't in their hands, are you telling me your Patrick Swayze bartender training says to step back and let him grab it and turn it on you?

Love that YT channel. BLM and what I mean by that is BLUE Lives Matter

If you watch the video, all the cop has to do was to calmly tell him he could get his ID, that they needed to have a conversation, that the weed and seatbelt weren’t that big of an issue, to turn around and that he was cuffing him for both of their safety and needed to have him sit in the back of his car while they talked and made sure nothing more significant was there.

Now we have someone else dead and unfortunately likely 1+ police officers fired.

If you don’t understand that logic, Jesus.

So you don't have a problem with BLM as long as it's blue lives?

So what you're really saying is you have a problem with the word "Black"