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Originally Posted By Ken-O⏩

Completely killed my libido. I liked women as any young man would, but wasnt sexually interested. Basically turned into a beta cuck ******* that could go on for weeks without fapping or having sex, and i wouldnt even notice it.

Eventually met a chick (smoking hot chick too), and i realized i didnt want to fuk her. Then suddenly realized i didnt have sexual urges for months now. Flushed all my propecia pills down the toilet the night i realized i was chemically castrated. Those were one of the darkest months of my life, didnt knew if id be back to normal again.

Thankfully that lasted for just a few months, but still, that **** i wouldnt wish it on my worst enemy.

Thats just my personal experience. You guys can come up with any theories you want to disregard my personal experience and thats ok, whatever helps you sleep at night.

been on fin for 5 years almost. Still can't control my boners. Saw a big booty indian girl with a busted face at the shops today and had to fight every urge not to fap in my car

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07-18-2020, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted By PowerPal⏩

been on fin for 5 years almost. Still can't control my boners. Saw a big booty indian girl with a busted face at the shops today and had to fight every urge not to fap in my car

Good for you man. 5 extra years of good hair plus no sexual sides? Win=win. If i were you id absolutely drop that crap before its too late but then again im talking from my own experience, you never know how everybody will react to that ****

Best wishes to you srs, hopefully everything stays that way

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07-18-2020, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted By Ken-O⏩

Good for you man. 5 extra years of good hair plus no sexual sides? Win=win. If i were you id absolutely drop that crap before its too late but then again im talking from my own experience, you never know how everybody will react to that ****

Best wishes to you srs, hopefully everything stays that way

I think people are more scared of permanent sides... a lot of the studies do show there is a real risk of erections problems, libdo etc. I dont think anyone would dispute that. But obviously people for fin will say the chance of permanent sides are very low, and people against will say hundreds of thousands of people get long term effects.

07-18-2020, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted By Ken-O⏩

Completely killed my libido. I liked women as any young man would, but wasnt sexually interested. Basically turned into a beta cuck ******* that could go on for weeks without fapping or having sex, and i wouldnt even notice it.

Eventually met a chick (smoking hot chick too), and i realized i didnt want to fuk her. Then suddenly realized i didnt have sexual urges for months now. Flushed all my propecia pills down the toilet the night i realized i was chemically castrated. Those were one of the darkest months of my life, didnt knew if id be back to normal again.

Thankfully that lasted for just a few months, but still, that **** i wouldnt wish it on my worst enemy.

Thats just my personal experience. You guys can come up with any theories you want to disregard my personal experience and thats ok, whatever helps you sleep at night.

Same **** happened to me when I was on it, lost all libido. I could still pop a woody, but my hunger for sex was gone. I’d still see a hot woman and go she is sexy, but I didn’t care for sex at all.

07-18-2020, 01:38 PM

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Uhh... the people who claim PFS is like 16k ... not in the 100s of thousands.

While I don’t fully discount it, it’s odd that not one of the long term indépendant studies have shown any evidence PFS is real.

07-18-2020, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted By PowerPal⏩

dht is a trash hormone after puberty. Every man should be sent dutasteride for their 25th birthday for free boyo

This. If you're a young guy who is 18 or 19 I wouldn't recommend taking it because you're still growing. But if you're like me and 28, you don't need DHT anymore.

In addition to Finasteride and Minoxidil, I might implement dermarolling on the temples and then apply Minoxidil to that area for maximum absorption.

07-18-2020, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted By backinthegymbro⏩

except that it doesn't get blocked. Testosterone simply won't get converted to DHT as much, but reduction is still only 60-70%.
Meanwhile DHT is only a very small % of free range testosterone. Stay misinformed though.

Only 70%? Oh, ok.

Whew, that was close.

Can you imagine if we blocked a potent androgen by more than 70%?

At least we are only blocking it by 70%.

It's not like DHT exerts a host of important physiological functions in the body.

All it does is make your prostate big and your hair fall out, am I right?

It's also a good thing the pharmacology of 5ar inhibition doesn't have any other significant downstream effects from interrupting an important biochemical pathway.

When will baldcells learn?

07-18-2020, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted By Harry815⏩

This. If you're a young guy who is 18 or 19 I wouldn't recommend taking it because you're still growing. But if you're like me and 28, you don't need DHT anymore.

In addition to Finasteride and Minoxidil, I might implement dermarolling on the temples and then apply Minoxidil to that area for maximum absorption.

You still need DHT lol, you want to be limp dicked and lame at 35? You want to be softer than fuk at age 50? LOL at believing life ends after your 20's, another retard.

No surprise that you don't understand how Finasteride works and how bad it is for you.

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07-18-2020, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted By mikeoc322⏩

Only 70%? Oh, ok.

Whew, that was close.

Can you imagine if we blocked a potent androgen by more than 70%?

At least we are only blocking it by 70%.

It's not like DHT exerts a host of important physiological functions in the body.

All it does is make your prostate big and your hair fall out, am I right?

It's also a good thing the pharmacology of 5ar inhibition doesn't have any other significant downstream effects from interrupting an important biochemical pathway.

When will baldcells learn?

Are you bald or balding?

07-18-2020, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted By Dirtymanjames⏩

Are you bald or balding?

Yes, you retard. I wouldn't care to educate people otherwise.

I've been in their shoes.

Your health > your hair.

07-18-2020, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted By CrazySerbian⏩

Been on it for years. Only side effect for me = less cum. People that don't want you to take finasteride are baldcels that want you to join their misery lmao.

So you’ve had a demonstrable side effect to your reproductive system for the sake of vanity? Perhaps the reason we don’t advocate for these drugs is to warn you against such things. But if you’re going to interpret that as trying to get you to join our misery then you do you and your depleted balls lol.

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07-18-2020, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted By Blazenwave⏩

You still need DHT lol, you want to be limp dicked and lame at 35? You want to be softer than fuk at age 50? LOL at believing life ends after your 20's, another retard.

No surprise that you don't understand how Finasteride works and how bad it is for you.

I think you haven't heard yet that there's a new way of dosing Finasteride that drastically lowers sides. 1mg three times a week is very effective. You don't have to take it everyday.

Check out the 6:12 mark of the video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekeRPx0TJqE&t=496s

07-18-2020, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted By mikeoc322⏩

Yes, you retard. I wouldn't care to educate people otherwise.

I've been in their shoes.

Your health > your hair.

Are you already bald / nw4?
Because i noticed baldcels are the most anti fin of anyone. Probably because they missed their train at the station and now it's too late for them.

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07-18-2020, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted By backinthegymbro⏩

Are you already bald / nw4?
Because i noticed baldcels are the most anti fin of anyone. Probably because they missed their train at the station and now it's too late for them.

People against fin could fall into lots of categories.

People who have tried fin and it wasn't effective.
People who tried it and got sides.
Bald people who went bald because they were against Fin to start with.
And yes bald guy who regret not taking it.

People just need to make their own decision. Honestly if people are in two minds, they should just take it and stop if they cannot deal with the sides.

07-18-2020, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted By backinthegymbro⏩

Are you already bald / nw4?
Because i noticed baldcels are the most anti fin of anyone. Probably because they missed their train at the station and now it's too late for them.

It could be because they know what being fully-bald is like and realise it’s not the end of the world and certainly not something that avoiding is worth risking your health over.

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Originally Posted By GiveMeTheD⏩

People just need to make their own decision. Honestly if people are in two minds, they should just take it and stop if they cannot deal with the sides.

That's for sure. There's a risk with everything. However i definitely believe the internet mostly has the loud minority + trolls when it comes to fin.
If you use fin and have sides, people will go online and rage how it ruined them for years to come.
But for those who fin simply worked without sides, they're busy living their life to the fullest while keeping their hair. They won't go on hairloss forums or whatever ranting about fin. Loud minority imo.

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It could be because they know what being fully-bald is like and realise it’s not the end of the world and certainly not something that avoiding is worth risking your health over.

Is being bald the end of your life? No but hair certainly matters a lot. You look older, less attractive, people judge you on your looks.
There's risk with everything. With taking cell tech, with driving a car and with going on an airplane.
In the end, to each their own.

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07-18-2020, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted By Mike86er⏩

It could be because they know what being fully-bald is like and realise it’s not the end of the world and certainly not something that avoiding is worth risking your health over.

What ****ing cope lol. Bald people are universally ugly and made fun of. I would kill myself if I would have to listen to "But look at Jason Statham and The Rock!!!! They are bald and look great". That's like manlets and Tom Cruise.

It is the end of the world, because it's a sign of aging and chit genetics lmfao.

07-18-2020, 02:21 PM

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Been on Fin for a year now. 0.5 mg a day. Haven't had the slightest inkling of a side effect. Still get way too horny way too often, honestly a reduction in libido would be nice and would help me concentrate better.

I'm convinced that the libido side effects are a real possibility, but everything else? The mental fog, anxiety, crippling depression, suicidal thoughts, etc.? I think that's 100% in these people's minds, or at the very least isn't a consequence of Fin. Because not a single independent study has found a possibility of those longstanding and permanent effects developing. I truly think PFS is a condition made-up by already insecure and depressed men.

Think about it. If you're a lonely and insecure guy who suddenly starts balding, you're going to become obsessive about retaining your hair and hop on Fin. You've read about the libido-depressing side effects, get with a girl, and can't get your dink up because of nerves. Only you start to wonder if it's the drug causing that, because you read it's a side effect. Now whenever you try and have sex you struggle more than the last time, because you've convinced yourself it isn't your nerves or p0rn addiction that's making you impotent, it's the medication. And this becomes a negative feedback loop. This spirals into depression about your performance, starts affecting your relationships, anxiety develops, you struggle to concentrate on anything else, etc.

Finasteride I would think is already used by a disproportionately insecure demographic. Myself included. Because plenty of men start balding and just say "f*ck it, was gonna happen anyway." They're not going to try and preserve their hair through pharmacologic means. The people willing to do that are those who are convinced that their self-worth and attractiveness will plummet without hair. And I'd assume that people like this are far more likely to overanalyze things and become clouded by the "nocebo" effect.

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Originally Posted By backinthegymbro⏩

That's for sure. There's a risk with everything. However i definitely believe the internet mostly has the loud minority + trolls when it comes to fin.
If you use fin and have sides, people will go online and rage how it ruined them for years to come.
But for those who fin simply worked without sides, they're busy living their life to the fullest while keeping their hair. They won't go on hairloss forums or whatever ranting about fin. Loud minority imo.

Is being bald the end of your life? No but hair certainly matters a lot. You look older, less attractive, people judge you on your looks.
There's risk with everything. With taking cell tech, with driving a car and with going on an airplane.
In the end, to each their own.

This isnt a hairloss forum where people come spefically to talk about the subject.

This is a fitness forum and it just so happen for this subject to be brought up every once in a while, and miscers just discuss their experiences with no agenda prior doing so.

These threads are always the same, pretty much 50/50.

If you go to a forum of propecia or hair loss then yeah your Logic would work because people search that forum to discuss their experiences, but then again ther, 90% of people are against it

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Originally Posted By severagee⏩

Been on Fin for a year now. 0.5 mg a day. Haven't had the slightest inkling of a side effect. Still get way too horny way too often, honestly a reduction in libido would be nice and would help me concentrate better.

I'm convinced that the libido side effects are a real possibility, but everything else? The mental fog, anxiety, crippling depression, suicidal thoughts, etc.? I think that's 100% in these people's minds, or at the very least isn't a consequence of Fin. Because not a single independent study has found a possibility of those longstanding and permanent effects developing. I truly think PFS is a condition made-up by already insecure and depressed men.

Think about it. If you're a lonely and insecure guy who suddenly starts balding, you're going to become obsessive about retaining your hair and hop on Fin. You've read about the libido-depressing side effects, get with a girl, and can't get your dink up because of nerves. Only you start to wonder if it's the drug causing that, because you read it's a side effect. Now whenever you try and have sex you struggle more than the last time, because you've convinced yourself it isn't your nerves or p0rn addiction that's making you impotent, it's the medication. And this becomes a negative feedback loop. This spirals into depression about your performance, starts affecting your relationships, anxiety develops, you struggle to concentrate on anything else, etc.

Finasteride I would think is already used by a disproportionately insecure demographic. Myself included. Because plenty of men start balding and just say "f*ck it, was gonna happen anyway." They're not going to try and preserve their hair through pharmacologic means. The people willing to do that are those who are convinced that their self-worth and attractiveness will plummet without hair. And I'd assume that people like this are far more likely to overanalyze things and become clouded by the "nocebo" effect.

Loss of morning or random erections cant be a psychological issue, its a physiological one, and this side effect is reported by pretty much everyone claiming to suffer of PFS

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Originally Posted By backinthegymbro⏩

Is being bald the end of your life? No but hair certainly matters a lot. You look older, less attractive, people judge you on your looks.
There's risk with everything. With taking cell tech, with driving a car and with going on an airplane.
In the end, to each their own.

That’s fair enough. I’m just saying that a lot of people - when they’re on the road to going bald - do see it as the end of the world. Then when they do shave their head they realise it isn’t. That’s why you might notice that a lot of people who advise against taking these things are bald.

Is hair preferable? Sure it is. I’m not going to try to gaslight you into thinking it isn’t. I just don’t think risking your health is worth that preference.

I can understand people taking fin or whatever so I’m not judging anyone. But do be aweir of the risks and do be aweir that baldness isn’t a death knell.

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Originally Posted By Itsoverboyosx⏩

What ****ing cope lol. Bald people are universally ugly and made fun of. I would kill myself if I would have to listen to "But look at Jason Statham and The Rock!!!! They are bald and look great". That's like manlets and Tom Cruise.

It is the end of the world, because it's a sign of aging and chit genetics lmfao.

You’re right that not all bald people look like Jason Statham like not all short guys are Tom Cruise lol. But look outside your basement and you’ll see random bald guys with hot girlfriends. Judging by your preoccupation with trolling and your inceldom username and redness, you wouldn’t know anything about associating with women in the first place.

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tbh best arguement is that if you are balding, bald or a recessivehairlinecel....ITS ALREADY OVER and you are invisible to most women anyway.

May as well take Fin when you are already dead to women.

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Originally Posted By Mike86er⏩

You’re right that not all bald people look like Jason Statham like not all short guys are Tom Cruise lol. But look outside your basement and you’ll see random bald guys with hot girlfriends. Judging by your preoccupation with trolling and your inceldom username and redness, you wouldn’t know anything about associating with women in the first place.

Lmao how am I incel because of my name wtf lol. Of course there are bald people that are attractive, but they would be more attractive if they had hair, that's literally the whole point. You sound fuarking dumb

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Lmao how am I incel because of my name wtf lol. Of course there are bald people that are attractive, but they would be more attractive if they had hair, that's literally the whole point. You sound fuarking dumb

You and I both know that your username is a phrase of inceldom lol. You can lie to yourself but you can’t lie to us.

As I said before, yes, hair is preferable. That’s not the same as “it is the end of the world” you retarded reprobate. My position is that while hair is preferable, not going bald isn’t worth risking your balls over it. If you’re not getting laid while you’re bald, you probably weren’t getting laid before.

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Originally Posted By Mike86er⏩

You and I both know that your username is a phrase of inceldom lol. You can lie to yourself but you can’t lie to us.

As I said before, yes, hair is preferable. That’s not the same as “it is the end of the world” you retarded reprobate. My position is that while hair is preferable, not going bald isn’t worth risking your balls over it. If you’re not getting laid while you’re bald, you probably weren’t getting laid before.

You are a boomer so makes sense you are an r slur for thinking some stupid chit like that lol. Yeah because all that comes with going bald is that you look different and absolutely nothing psychological lmao.

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in on this

i got fin but im waiting to see derma first b4 i actually commit

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in on this

i got fin but im waiting to see derma first b4 i actually commit

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Originally Posted By conics⏩

in on this

i got fin but im waiting to see derma first b4 i actually commit

Why whats a derma going to tell you? They will just regurgitate what you could find on google in 30 seconds.

If you want to go on fin, take it. If you cannot handle the sides you get, go off it. And hope you aren't one of the 0.1 percent of people who get permanent sides. If the idea of permanent lost libdo/boners makes you chit your pants. Maybe don't go on it, because you will be stressing constantly.