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post 1611318961 07-22-2020, 02:48 AM
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So to put it into summary, just got into it at work with a bloke and his girl but this time it was quite different, never had this issue before and I'm not entirely sure what is causing it. It is well known that the body goes into a 'fight or flight' response whenever it perceives fear or danger and I have went into this state when it came to physical altercations but this was just a verbal one specifically pinpointed at me. Some runty looking **** just started arguing and going off his head swearing and such jsut to look big infront of his girl because I wouldn't let her in

Just curious here, never actually to me in a verbal confrontation even though the bloke was swearing and looked like a druggo junkie little ****head

Could eating a massive meal before cause it? Just trying to figure out how to make sure this **** doesn't happen again because I could barely talk from how fast my HR was, bear in mind I've dealt with alot of **** at work whether it be a fight, brawl, physically removing people and such but today was just different

Need your help here brahs cause I need to make sure this **** doesn't happen again
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So are you saying you lost your train of thought when confronted with a meathead who was insulting and disrespectful? It happens to just about everyone at one time or another. Maybe you couldn't believe the stupidity of his (or their) statements and took it as a "personal attack"? Also common.

Are you saying you don't understand why someone might feel anxiety (or have an anxiety/and or panic attack) while trying to deal with confrontation? Or are you just focusing too much on that adrenaline response? As long as you didn't act impulsively in the wrong fashion, then I'm sure everything is fine!

What DID happen? You said "I need to make sure this dosen't happen again"?
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Originally Posted By etet1919⏩
So are you saying you lost your train of thought when confronted with a meathead who was insulting and disrespectful? It happens to just about everyone at one time or another. Maybe you couldn't believe the stupidity of his (or their) statements and took it as a "personal attack"? Also common.

Are you saying you don't understand why someone might feel anxiety (or have an anxiety/and or panic attack) while trying to deal with confrontation? Or are you just focusing too much on that adrenaline response? As long as you didn't act impulsively in the wrong fashion, then I'm sure everything is fine!

What DID happen? You said "I need to make sure this dosen't happen again"?
Nah, I didn't act impulsively but during the whole situation, it's as if I couldn't even talk properly

What surprised me more is that I've dealt with more situations that were more dangerous then this one yet this specific situation put my whole body under a panic as if I was in imminent danger when I wasn't when in the other situations, I had more control over the 'flight or fight' response. I'm not sure if it's the big meal I had before work which I barely ever do which just loaded all the carbs into fuel on that one go or if there was another reason

I need to make sure it doesn't happen again because I felt under imminent threat when there really wasn't any, I had full control of my actions but I could barely speak due to my current heart-rate at that time. In general, the guy was being generally abusive verbally and was going off his head which I deal with mostly all the time yet in this specific situation, flight or fight hit me harder then ever because I usually talk it all out before anything physical happens yet I couldn't even talk properly to assist the other person in understanding. They were also both talking at the same time which might've just put me off, not entirely sure

I'm just trying to clarify what the **** just happened ^
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your body went fight or flight?

the best thing, imo, you can do in these situations is slow your breathing. Like, focus on breathing slower and deeper. It'll take you out of your head and physically put your body in a more relaxed state.

you can't be in a stressed state when you're breathing like you're chilling, nomsayin?
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Yeah I am in the security industry; been in it for like 3-4 years so I have dealt with alot of situations much more dangerous then this but this specific incident elicited a different chemical response in the body.

@Jimmehhh, I tried doing that mate yet these two idiots just would not let up, where I usually physically remove people for doing what they did, I had to conduct a more professional route due to the current atmosphere so I was trying to talk this out but I could barely talk with my HR being too damn fast, tried controlling it. I didn't do anything impulsive, still had alot of control over the physical parts of the body but the chemical, not really.
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Huge adrenaline dump due to unprecedented event. Maybe in the past you've sub consciously picked up on signs that could lead to altercation, so you have been ready for it and more able to deal with it...but in this case it took you by complete surprise?
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Originally Posted By WiseOldApe⏩
Dude, you sh*t your self because you felt threatened - get the f*ck out of security, that's a sh*t kunt industry to work in - since i speak from experience. Never met more retarded people than when I worked in the security industry; both colleagues and patrons.

It's good if you work in a cool nightclub on the weekends because hot 8/10's flirt with and hit on you, but apart from that it's a waste of life.
Nah man, I could've easily taken the bloke and like I said, dealt with much bigger and stronger blokes then that dog and his dumb behemoth girlfriend. Todays chemical response was just different to the ones I usually get, yeah it is a **** industry but it's just a milestone towards something else at this point
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Originally Posted By demfeelsbro⏩
Huge adrenaline dump due to unprecedented event. Maybe in the past you've sub consciously picked up on signs that could lead to altercation, so you have been ready for it and more able to deal with it...but in this case it took you by complete surprise?
This is exactly what happened.

Your body unleashed it's adrenaline which causes an instant heightened state of anxiety, the heart rate increases causing you to lose your breathing rhythm.

It's a vicious circle and the base of your survival instinct.



You sensed you were directly threatened and knew it, welcome to feeling vulnerable.
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Originally Posted By blissful88⏩
This is exactly what happened.

Your body unleashed it's adrenaline which causes an instant heightened state of anxiety, the heart rate increases causing you to lose your breathing rhythm.

It's a vicious circle and the base of your survival instinct.



You sensed you were directly threatened and knew it, welcome to feeling vulnerable.
Bro

Help me to understand why it happened in this specific situation when I have been in more dangerous situations that didn't elicit this harsh of a chemical response. That is what I'm trying to figure out
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Originally Posted By ChangeOfStyle⏩
Bro

Help me to understand why it happened in this specific situation when I have been in more dangerous situations that didn't elicit this harsh of a chemical response. That is what I'm trying to figure out
For one it can happen to anybody, even the most veteran of bad mofos still get nervous. It's how you deal with it that determines the outcome.

Take solace in knowing that if said bloke would have hit you, you probably wouldn't have felt a thing.



The entire world is in a heightened state of anxiety right now, look at how much negativity is going on daily even on this board. It's a fire storm that will eat at even the strongest mind.

It would take weeks of deep psychological therapy to find what from your past is eating away at you, everyone has something.


You clearly entered the fight or flight mode, but you didn't choose either and that's what allowed your body to keep pumping adrenaline stores in preparation.
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Originally Posted By blissful88⏩
For one it can happen to anybody, even the most veteran of bad mofos still get nervous. It's how you deal with it that determines the outcome.

Take solace in knowing that if said bloke would have hit you, you probably wouldn't have felt a thing.



The entire world is in a heightened state of anxiety right now, look at how much negativity is going on daily even on this board. It's a fire storm that will eat at even the strongest mind.

It would take weeks of deep psychological therapy to find what from your past is eating away at you, everyone has something.


You clearly entered the fight or flight mode, but you didn't choose either and that's what allowed your body to keep pumping adrenaline stores in preparation.
Fair enough, appreciate the input mate

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Yes Op the body being busy digesting carbs can certainly be a factor.
The insulin and other hormones are raised.
Like when you drink coffee.

Try to plan your meals and practise relaxation
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Originally Posted By Hnbn1⏩
Yes Op the body being busy digesting carbs can certainly be a factor.
The insulin and other hormones are raised.
Like when you drink coffee.

Try to plan your meals and practise relaxation
Was curious if this was the reason why cause I ate a whole KFC ultimate box meal before I came to work since I kind of overslept through my meals but everyone else ITT stated facts as well, was just curious if anyone has also ever had an experience like it hence why I was trying to clarify why this specific situation was different.
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Originally Posted By ChangeOfStyle⏩
Nah, I didn't act impulsively but during the whole situation, it's as if I couldn't even talk properly

What surprised me more is that I've dealt with more situations that were more dangerous then this one yet this specific situation put my whole body under a panic as if I was in imminent danger when I wasn't when in the other situations, I had more control over the 'flight or fight' response. I'm not sure if it's the big meal I had before work which I barely ever do which just loaded all the carbs into fuel on that one go or if there was another reason

I need to make sure it doesn't happen again because I felt under imminent threat when there really wasn't any, I had full control of my actions but I could barely speak due to my current heart-rate at that time. In general, the guy was being generally abusive verbally and was going off his head which I deal with mostly all the time yet in this specific situation, flight or fight hit me harder then ever because I usually talk it all out before anything physical happens yet I couldn't even talk properly to assist the other person in understanding. They were also both talking at the same time which might've just put me off, not entirely sure

I'm just trying to clarify what the **** just happened ^
I think you were just angry AF!!!! I've been in that situation in the past a few times where I was so livid at the "onslaught" of verbal abuse during a surprise confrontation or argument. It's normal. But as others have stated, you have to calm your breathing down (especially if you cannot just up and walk away). You deal with drunken morons on a regular basis- I've been there. You don't have an easy job.

Yes, this surprise encounter was going at lightning speed. You can't understand or take in what everyone is saying at once (how do the Jersey Housewives do it?IDK...I don't watch the trainwrecks eitherJust adrenaline kicking in, nothing major. You don't feel that way ALL the time, right?

One other thought: Pre-workout supps with caffeine.... or just caffeine, possibly. Too much caffeine can amp up all that energy (it's happened to me).
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Originally Posted By etet1919⏩
I think you were just angry AF!!!! I've been in that situation in the past a few times where I was so livid at the "onslaught" of verbal abuse during a surprise confrontation or argument. It's normal. But as others have stated, you have to calm your breathing down (especially if you cannot just up and walk away). You deal with drunken morons on a regular basis- I've been there. You don't have an easy job.

Yes, this surprise encounter was going at lightning speed. You can't understand or take in what everyone is saying at once (how do the Jersey Housewives do it?IDK...I don't watch the trainwrecks eitherJust adrenaline kicking in, nothing major. You don't feel that way ALL the time, right?

One other thought: Pre-workout supps with caffeine.... or just caffeine, possibly. Too much caffeine can amp up all that energy (it's happened to me).
Ahh look, I can in most situations control my anger so that isn't much of an issue because I know the repercussions if I do lose control of my emotions especially infront of other patrons, staff and supported surveillance. Nah, I don't feel that way all the time, when an altercation occurs, I take a second to assess my emotional and physical response and then assess the situation before intervening to make sure there isn't any present dangers and I don't take any stims anymore so you can rule that one out
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Originally Posted By ChangeOfStyle⏩
Bro

Help me to understand why it happened in this specific situation when I have been in more dangerous situations that didn't elicit this harsh of a chemical response. That is what I'm trying to figure out
Try defending yourself against fellow women as a livingAnd especially as a young attractive woman. Fortunately, I can't say welcome to THAT club (or bag, as they say on the misc)!!
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Originally Posted By etet1919⏩
Try defending yourself against fellow women as a livingAnd especially as a young attractive woman. Fortunately, I can't say welcome to THAT club (or bag, as they say on the misc)!!
Ahh, already had like three crazy chicks in the past 2 weeks, with one being a chick who I was texting on a regular basis and in all situations, all three of these chicks managed to get themselves barred for life from our club, i'd rather deal with meatheads then chicks tbh because you guys are unpredictable and seem to love crying in every situation which brings on the whiteknight surrounders
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You need to have cold showers every day (100% SRS)

Cold showers cause your body to release adrenaline and endorphins. This not only energises you at the start of the day but trains your body to handle adrenaline rush, helping you to remain calm in stressful situations.

If a verbal altercation gets you like this though then perhaps this line of work isn't suitable...
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Originally Posted By 2am⏩
You need to have cold showers every day (100% SRS)

Cold showers cause your body to release adrenaline and endorphins. This not only energises you at the start of the day but trains your body to handle the rush of adrenaline, helping you to remain calm in stressful situations.

If a verbal altercation gets you like this though then perhaps this line of work isn't suitable...
Nah mate, had hundreds of verbal altercations that didn't elicit this response so it's not the fact that it was a verbal altercation, like I said before, even physical altercations didn't elicit this harsh of a response and the blokes were even bigger then this runt. Been doing this for 3-4 years, if I knew I wasn't cut out for it, i'd have put it out a long time ago but circumstances prevent me from leaving it right now even though I'm actually done with the industry
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Originally Posted By ChangeOfStyle⏩
Nah mate, had hundreds of verbal altercations that didn't elicit this response so it's not the fact that it was a verbal altercation, like I said before, even physical altercations didn't elicit this harsh of a response and the blokes were even bigger then this runt. Been doing this for 3-4 years, if I knew I wasn't cut out for it, i'd have put it out a long time ago but circumstances prevent me from leaving it right now even though I'm actually done with the industry
didn't read thread.

My point about cold showers is still valid.

Maybe this guy reminded you subconsciously of someone in your past?
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Originally Posted By 2am⏩
didn't read thread.

My point about cold showers is still valid.

Maybe this guy reminded you subconsciously of someone in your past?
Oh man, I'm taking hold of your advice about cold showers, just read up them on and they have tons of benefits.

Yeah got no clue with that last remark, but one thing I know for sure is no highly carb filled meals 20 minutes before starting my shift, that's for sure
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It is a maturity problem driven by your deep-rooted "need" to defend yourself.

It is my opinion, based on your posts, that you are a mini "tool", though you have a decent heart that could do well under the right guidance.

A real man would assert dominance non-verbally without the need for violence in the situation you described. Expressing the "need" is likely to flame situations to a point where embarrassment ensues.

This post is sponsored by aleeboy and will be 99% accurate.
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It is a maturity problem driven by your deep-rooted "need" to defend yourself.

It is my opinion, based on your posts, that you are a mini "tool", though you have a decent heart that could do well under the right guidance.

A real man would assert dominance non-verbally without the need for violence in the situation you described. Expressing the "need" is likely to flame situations to a point where embarrassment ensues.

This post is sponsored by aleeboy and will be 99% accurate.
Awesome, thanks your wisdom. Your brain is thicc, solid, tight. Keep me updated on the progress of your intelligence
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Awesome, thanks your wisdom. Your brain is thicc, solid, tight. Keep me updated on the progress of your intelligence
It is forever evolving as it becomes more learned. Good luck. Let the light that is burning within grow in strength and guide you as you chart your way through this life.
"The manlet is a savage beast that knows no moral bound. After falling in disgrace to a manmore, a ravaged manlet would not hesitate to come from behind and land a sucker punch/ swing with a rock to the back of a manmore's head. They are ruthless and you need to spend some more time in the gutter to even begin trying to comprehend what goes on in their minds."

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Awesome, thanks your wisdom. Your brain is thicc, solid, tight. Keep me updated on the progress of your intelligence
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Not a psychologist but here's my theory

Adrenaline is very helpful in physical altercations, very unhelpful in verbal ones. All that extra energy your body is creating needs to be released in some way, and since you were trying to be calm and not physically fight this dude, the adrenaline energy had nowhere to go so it just made it hard for you to speak, a sort of freeze response.


That or you had too much stimulants like caffeine and/or energy drinks?


edit: I missed the post where you said you had hundreds of verbal altercations. No clue then. Was this one in particular really unexpected? Was the guy louder/scarier than usual?
post 1611324311 07-22-2020, 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted By Vrykul⏩
Not a psychologist but here's my theory

Adrenaline is very helpful in physical altercations, very unhelpful in verbal ones. All that extra energy your body is creating needs to be released in some way, and since you were trying to be calm and not physically fight this dude, the adrenaline energy had nowhere to go so it just made it hard for you to speak, a sort of freeze response.


That or you had too much stimulants like caffeine and/or energy drinks?


edit: I missed the post where you said you had hundreds of verbal altercations. No clue then. Was this one in particular really unexpected? Was the guy louder/scarier than usual?
Yeah kind of unexpected because it legit just went 0-100 in an instant so I guess it might've just been a response from the body of a possible imminent threat. Nah, none to the above of the second statement. Just a fukn idiot with a eye and neck tat and a piercing, just like all the other dropkicks we get in this suburb
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