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post 1611427301 07-23-2020, 06:25 AM
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You stopped being friends over a post on the gram? Sounds like you're pretty fragile OP.
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Originally Posted By Jayzuz
Ah yes white people are fragile, not the ones constantly screeching about “systemic oppression” & blaming an entire race for failing in life or spazzing out & attacking people over a word.

The lack of self awareness here is astounding.
Why is it that when I accuse nosotros bolillos of possessing racial fragility, you cant just say "No, we dont" - how come you have to accuse unnamed "constantly screeching" other races of being fragile instead? Why, when I call out my fellow whites, do you feel a strong need to call out non-whites?
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Originally Posted By blissful88
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post 1611427751 07-23-2020, 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted By blissful88
To be fair, racism exists, it's just mostly against whites as evident by 2020


Minorities clearly are the ones with privilege since they can say or do anything and be supported
So victimized and held down by the "man" . How will you ever escape this climate of systematic oppression?

If you think it's absurd when we use that excuse, just imagine how absolutely ridiculous it sounds when you do.
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post 1611427781 07-23-2020, 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted By StoliFun
Why is it that when I accuse nosotros bolillos of possessing racial fragility, you cant just say "No, we dont" - how come you have to accuse unnamed "constantly screeching" other races of being fragile instead? Why, when I call out my fellow whites, do you feel a strong need to call out non-whites?
Still LARPing as a white guy?

Pretty sad. Seems like something someone with fragility issues would do, but that’s none of my business *sip*.
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post 1611427841 07-23-2020, 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted By sword_
The guy that wrote "How to be an antiracist" went to my high school srs. I downloaded it on audiobook off the strength of that.

I don't think the white fragility book will actually help people see a different perspective. It may help the whites who want to become "better allies" in some aspects though. People are just trying to do what they see is right.

I don't think saying all whites are fragile will help but I know it's a controversial subject to many
well the entire premise of the book is factually wrong and it does nothing but give people excuses to alleviate personal responsibility.

this has been the strategy to “help”
black communities for 60 years now and it hasnt worked
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Yawn

The woman who wrote it works in "whiteness studies". To anyone with more than 2 brain cells all this "whiteness" stuff is just a marxist tool created to dismantle the current system

I don't get why so many black ppl are into this chit, bet you my right arm they wouldn't like a marxist society either
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Does anybody else see the absolute irony in this thread??
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Recommend one to him

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/06...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
post 1611428221 07-23-2020, 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted By Jayzuz
Still LARPing as a white guy?

Pretty sad. Seems like something someone with fragility issues would do, but that’s none of my business *sip*.
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Originally Posted By StoliFun
I read the book. Most of it is not controversial, as far as I am concerned, and a fair bit of it is unintentionally hilarious. The book doesn't try to convince you that white privilege exists, that society is dominated by white people, etc - it assumes all that.

Her prescriptions at the end of the book for dealing with systemic racism, however, are weird hyper race conscious silliness. White fragility is real, though. All Lives Matter is a good example of reactionary, fearful, unnecessary histrionics on the behalf of us bolillos.

Frankly, all of the miscers here disagreeing with a book they haven't read is also proof that white fragility exists.

Covfefe. Two scoops. Melania has an Elektra Complex.
"You're a racist and you denying you're a racist makes you a racist." "White fragility exists because when I say white fragility exists people disagree with me which proves white fragility exists" - Robin Dialgelo / You

I'm going to make a book called "Women are useless" or "Black people are inferior" and then when women or black people refuse to read it I'm going to use that as proof that those statements are true because I'm an intellectual just like you. I don't have to provide any proof of those ridiculous claims, I can just accuse you of them and then say if you deny them then that's just proof that they are true.

Then I'm going to give a whole lot of examples that are either historically inaccurate or just personal stories and then project them on to women and black people as a whole. And remember, if you deny my accusations based on historical inaccuracy or my own personal stories of me personally being racist or sexist then that's just even more proof that I'm right and that "women are useless" or "black people are inferior" because I set up that circular argument already. And if you challenge my circular argument and say it doesn't make sense then you're just proving me right even more.

But don't worry, the only way to "fix" yourself is to pay me and only me money. Because I consulted experts(my friends) on Women and Blackness and they say the only way to fix it is to pay me money so I can just accuse you of whatever I want because denying that accusation and asking for actual evidence just proves my point.

/s

It's almost like there's this thing called the internet (hint, you're on it right now) where you can read reviews and get quotes and summaries and watch people who have read or watched something explain it. And you don't have to actually read the book to know what it contains. And you can have people put direct quotes up of whole paragraphs and make an educated decision on whether the book is good or not.

Kind of like in the book where Robin is invited to a party and when she gets there there's actually 2 parties next to each other and 1 party is mostly white people and the other part makes her scared and uncomfortable and full of anxiety because it's mostly black people and she has a freak out and then gets a bit closer and see's her friends in the white party and then has a massive sense of relief that she doesn't have to go to the scary black party. And somehow that proves that all white people are racist and uncomfortable around black people. It definitely doesn't prove that she's just super racist. Oh no of course now because she's the great white hope sent to cure our racism. And the proof of our racism is examples of her racism and us denying we're racist...
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post 1611428611 07-23-2020, 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted By StoliFun
Did you think you were being slick or something? Lol.

Feel free to prove me wrong tho.
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Originally Posted By Peacening
All you need to know about whiteness right here



If you actually think this you have an idiotic concept of history
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Originally Posted By HayZues
Does anybody else see the absolute irony in this thread??
Do you not see the absolute paradox of creating an argument where the denial of it is proof of your argument? Just lol
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Originally Posted By bea5twood
You stopped being friends over a post on the gram? Sounds like you're pretty fragile OP.
its a ridiculous book *******
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Originally Posted By AverageKenneth
Tell him you'll read that if he reads this...

I love seeing Douglas Murray recommendations on the misc.


Gad Saad is another good one. Douglas Murray's temperament in debates reminds me of Hitchens though. No one can replace Hitchens, even though his brother has been alpha as fuk recently.
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Originally Posted By Sandmang27
I dont like to read but I like being angry.
We understand.
Originally Posted By Jayzuz
Did you think you were being slick or something? Lol.

Feel free to prove me wrong tho.


Verpiss dich.
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Originally Posted By StoliFun
We understand.



C’mon now, did you really expect me to accept that as proof? I can post one saying I’m 99% African.

Post a pic of yourself soyo. Or are you too embarrassed?
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Originally Posted By dannyg1217
its a ridiculous book *******
I wouldn't know. I have zero interest in reading or hearing about it. Probably written by a self loathing sjw. But thanks for the summary *******.
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Yeah - that shyt is ranked high on Amazon, keeps showing up on another site I get books from, and is also showing up on Top 100 on Piratebay.

Just phucking lol.
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I think one of the reason leftists are so retarded is because they read any random book by some idiot and then internalize everything in it as fact.
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Originally Posted By bea5twood
You stopped being friends over a post on the gram? Sounds like you're pretty fragile OP.
You are who you surround yourself with.
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Originally Posted By badbl00d
So victimized and held down by the "man" . How will you ever escape this climate of systematic oppression?

If you think it's absurd when we use that excuse, just imagine how absolutely ridiculous it sounds when you do.
I may be missing the context of your comment since I don't know your ethnicity outside of being a reindeer tiger


But you'll never see me blame any personal shortcomings in my life on my skin regardless of it's color, I'm not a perpetual victim mentally
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Originally Posted By StoliFun
We understand.



Verpiss dich.
Ironic, you clearly didn't read what I said and are just angry someone disagreed with you.
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I always tread lightly into these threads, because something about them tends to feel so "charged".

And I suppose that the reason for it is likely because there's a whole lot of "if you do X, you might be Z" type statements that get thrown around by the woke left. So it's understandable when the knee-jerk to being told that you may have some sort of prejudice is to recoil and say "Of course I don't" and, to perhaps, be insulted. After all, it certainly comes off as a character assessment to be told that you may very well be prejudiced without realizing it. It's being told that (a) you're ignorant, willfully or otherwise, and (b) if you don't realize it, it is because you weren't smart enough to see it, then finally (c) if you walk away from the dialogue now, you're irredeemably racist. That's a very hard, and uncomfortable proposition to grasp. You're also expecting another person to conform to your immediate beliefs in real-time... But that's not how you bridge a gap.

I don't think that starting a conversation with an accusation has ever, in the history, of humankind, been productive in a positive way. Especially not when that accusation is tagged with the additional statement: "And if you don't have this conversation right now, you are choosing the wrong side."

Of course there is cause for concern when somebody calls you a "racist"; and if you're upset at being called racist, well, good. That's a sign that you don'twantto be racist, and most peopledon't want to be. It's not "White Fragility" as much as it is the knee jerk reaction to being told you're doing something wrong even when you're not actively, intentionally, or otherwise racist by the classical sense of the word.

We do have to recognize that we all have some sort of internal bias, and often that bias directs us toward people that are similar to us. You can see it in many different aspects of life, but the reason we do this is to protect ourselves from what feels like could be a painful rejection from another group that considers us different. When people come to America from other countries, often, they seek communities in which there are others like them. In this way, they do not have to step too far beyond their comfort zone (in an already stressful situation) while rebuilding their lives outside of their home country. I don't think this is racism, though, as much as it is remaining in one's own comfort zone.

But that being said, we also cannot deny that some form of racism exists, it definitely does. I've certainly heard people say things I consider racist, especially behind closed doors. Some things I've heard are from people I wouldn't have expected it from. I think, what makes me most concerned is that there is this sort of unspoken "it's okay to say this to you because you're also white, so you'll probably understand, and nobody is around" thing that happens every now and then. That definitely exists, and if you haven't experienced it, I suppose that you're fortunate because it's always incredibly awkward. Truthfully, this is not something that occurs often, but when it does happen, it's always surprising. But that also isn't to say that it's limited only to white people.

Anyway, this is a wordy post, like always. Hard to start my thoughts without elaborating on them, especially when it comes to something like this.

To cut to the chase; if there's a dialogue to be had about what could be done for everybody to see each other eye-to-eye, that'd be fantastic.But it doesn't, and shouldn't start, with either side flinging an insult or a character assessment at the other.
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a book written about how white ppl are badd, written by a non white person. imagine my shock
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Originally Posted By EagleOfWar
What’s hilarious to me is they (the media) only depict the few % of white males that are timid and literally anyone could bulldoze them. When In reality there’s (like any other race) plenty of us that would demolish you face to face if pushed to that point. Not proud of it as far as acting animalistic but at least my immediate family knows that no matter race or talk I’m white and will not tolerate physical disrespect. “There’s always someone tougher around the corner” is what my football coach used to tell us and it’s true. Race has nothing to do with it.

For every black man talking trash about how White ppl are weak there’s a white man talking about how black men are low IQ. Both are generalizations and I’d love to pit them all against one another in a match til the death so we can be done with this stupid ****.

Btw I’m proud af to be white. I love my heritage and don’t feel anyone should be ashamed of theirs.


Acting as if you’re better than another because of it is the problem but the media has made it that if I say that I’m a proud white man in a public setting (which I will anytime) somehow means that I believe any person that’s not white is lesser than myself. Why are we the only ones who can’t be proud of who we are and want our families to feel the same? Of course I ask that question in just because idgaf what the media says we aren’t allowed to do. It’s not the color it’s the culture and I’m REALLY ****ing proud.
Haven’t met many tough ones tbh

Maybe like 3 tough white guys in my whole life and they were all wrestlers/fighters

Remember kids if you are racist you’re not tough you’re just a pussy clinging onto Groups movements To save your own skin and reinforce your pseudo toughness

And again guns don’t make you tough
Guns are cool but they don’t make u tough
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