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Originally Posted By Sandmang27
"You're a racist and you denying you're a racist makes you a racist." "White fragility exists because when I say white fragility exists people disagree with me which proves white fragility exists" - Robin Dialgelo / You

I'm going to make a book called "Women are useless" or "Black people are inferior" and then when women or black people refuse to read it I'm going to use that as proof that those statements are true because I'm an intellectual just like you. I don't have to provide any proof of those ridiculous claims, I can just accuse you of them and then say if you deny them then that's just proof that they are true.
That's not entirely accurate.
She is using circular logic, so her statements make from a logical standpoint, but don't have that much content.

A more accurate example would be:
Book title: "Black people are always angry"
Black people get angry at book
"Look they are angry!"

The problem seems less, that her claims are riddiculous, it's more that they are really broad. The term white fragility includes a lot of different behaviours and reactions, which totally exist, but could be more accurately summed up under multiple totally unrelated buzzwords.
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Originally Posted By StoliFun
Why is it that when I accuse nosotros bolillos of possessing racial fragility, you cant just say "No, we dont" - how come you have to accuse unnamed "constantly screeching" other races of being fragile instead? Why, when I call out my fellow whites, do you feel a strong need to call out non-whites?
You're demonstrating some major fragility.
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Originally Posted By MinisterOfLust
Misc is so obsessed with black people.
It’s the way of the rhythmless.
All it takes is Mookie Betts, Steph Curry, and Joe Burrow all sitting in the same car in order for one drunk driver to make the world a significantly better place.
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Originally Posted By YoungMetro24
It’s the way of the rhythmless.
You need to use your ebt card to buy some new material shweezy.

This is sad.
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Originally Posted By I3igAl
That's not entirely accurate.
She is using circular logic, so her statements make from a logical standpoint, but don't have that much content.

A more accurate example would be:
Book title: "Black people are always angry"
Black people get angry at book
"Look they are angry!"

The problem seems less, that her claims are riddiculous, it's more that they are really broad. The term white fragility includes a lot of different behaviours and reactions, which totally exist, but could be more accurately summed up under multiple totally unrelated buzzwords.
That is a better example. She's accusing people of being fragile and defensive when met with a serious accusation and then using that defensiveness to prove her accusation instead of actual evidence.

It's like how in the book she changes the definition of racism so that only white people can be called racist. This is clearly not true but if you say that then that's somehow proof that you are racist.

Her claims are broad (aka ironically racist) but also ridiculous, at least most of them are. She ruins any good points with countless garbage. Like her Jackie Robinson "example" where she makes a completely untrue statement and uses that as proof of her crackpot point. No one thought he was the first black player good enough to make it, everyone knew he was the first one allowed and there were many good black players that deserved to be in the MLB and many bad white players in the MLB that didn't deserve to be there.

She's a typical "woke" leftist marxist and has somehow made a lot of money by going around to corporations and just accusing all non-black people of being racist and all black people of being group think children that need to be coddled and protected. 1 thing she was absolutely right about is that some of the most racist people are "woke" leftist white liberals aka her and her ilk.
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Originally Posted By Jayzuz
You need to use your ebt card to buy some new material shweezy.

This is sad.
I’m at least 3 tax brackets above you. Maybe more.
All it takes is Mookie Betts, Steph Curry, and Joe Burrow all sitting in the same car in order for one drunk driver to make the world a significantly better place.
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Originally Posted By tank2003
The problem with modern liberals is theyONLYaddress racism when they can blame it on white people.
Only White people are racist.
White people are inherently racist.
It's not enough to be Allie's, you have to be actively anti-racist.
We must eliminate racism.
Racists aren't human.

Racism = Whites
Anti-Racist = Anti-White

Nobody has been fired for hating and dehumanizing Whites.
In fact, a lady in the UK got permanent Professor position and a raise for saying exterminate Whites.

This is how the genocide happens.
People don't connect the dots.

This White as fukk website is afraid of being around and supporting Whites. Anytime a White or right-wing anything is posted, rally/gatherings, y'all just meme it. The commies who want all Whites to be exterminated aren't memeing anything.

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Originally Posted By bea5twood
I wouldn't know. I have zero interest in reading or hearing about it. Probably written by a self loathing sjw. But thanks for the summary *******.
no problem, *******, its an accurate summary
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Originally Posted By Leonydus
a book written about how white ppl are badd, written by a non white person. imagine my shock
the book is stupid but the author is also most definitely white.

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Originally Posted By JoshSP1985
I think one of the reason leftists are so retarded is because they read any random book by some idiot and then internalize everything in it as fact.
Like miscers do with stromfront?
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Racist cult theology, hooray! It's on the same level of hatred as KKK or Nazi rhetoric, but the media is too chickensh!t to point that out.
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Originally Posted By TypeNirvash
I always tread lightly into these threads, because something about them tends to feel so "charged".

And I suppose that the reason for it is likely because there's a whole lot of "if you do X, you might be Z" type statements that get thrown around by the woke left. So it's understandable when the knee-jerk to being told that you may have some sort of prejudice is to recoil and say "Of course I don't" and, to perhaps, be insulted. After all, it certainly comes off as a character assessment to be told that you may very well be prejudiced without realizing it. It's being told that (a) you're ignorant, willfully or otherwise, and (b) if you don't realize it, it is because you weren't smart enough to see it, then finally (c) if you walk away from the dialogue now, you're irredeemably racist. That's a very hard, and uncomfortable proposition to grasp. You're also expecting another person to conform to your immediate beliefs in real-time... But that's not how you bridge a gap.

I don't think that starting a conversation with an accusation has ever, in the history, of humankind, been productive in a positive way. Especially not when that accusation is tagged with the additional statement: "And if you don't have this conversation right now, you are choosing the wrong side."

Of course there is cause for concern when somebody calls you a "racist"; and if you're upset at being called racist, well, good. That's a sign that you don'twantto be racist, and most peopledon't want to be. It's not "White Fragility" as much as it is the knee jerk reaction to being told you're doing something wrong even when you're not actively, intentionally, or otherwise racist by the classical sense of the word.

We do have to recognize that we all have some sort of internal bias, and often that bias directs us toward people that are similar to us. You can see it in many different aspects of life, but the reason we do this is to protect ourselves from what feels like could be a painful rejection from another group that considers us different. When people come to America from other countries, often, they seek communities in which there are others like them. In this way, they do not have to step too far beyond their comfort zone (in an already stressful situation) while rebuilding their lives outside of their home country. I don't think this is racism, though, as much as it is remaining in one's own comfort zone.

But that being said, we also cannot deny that some form of racism exists, it definitely does. I've certainly heard people say things I consider racist, especially behind closed doors. Some things I've heard are from people I wouldn't have expected it from. I think, what makes me most concerned is that there is this sort of unspoken "it's okay to say this to you because you're also white, so you'll probably understand, and nobody is around" thing that happens every now and then. That definitely exists, and if you haven't experienced it, I suppose that you're fortunate because it's always incredibly awkward. Truthfully, this is not something that occurs often, but when it does happen, it's always surprising. But that also isn't to say that it's limited only to white people.

Anyway, this is a wordy post, like always. Hard to start my thoughts without elaborating on them, especially when it comes to something like this.

To cut to the chase; if there's a dialogue to be had about what could be done for everybody to see each other eye-to-eye, that'd be fantastic.But it doesn't, and shouldn't start, with either side flinging an insult or a character assessment at the other.
I understand what you are trying to say here. However, why is it always that the white person is the one who doesn't see how he's racist / isn't sensitive enough to the black people / yada yada yada.

You assert that having some sort of racism, having some racist thoughts, etc. is not just limited to white people. But then why are white people the focus? Why am I required to sit and talk with you about this made up concept of "white fragility" but you are free to stereotype me and use whatever phrases / ideas you want?

Because of things that happened in the past that I had zero involvement in? That makes it ok?

If you, as a black person, try to start any conversation with a white person about how they might be racist / are not sensitive enough / whatever the case is, you are pushing that person away. Assuming they are a normal, not racist person. I think you should probably look in the mirror and ask these questions of yourself.
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Originally Posted By BigDeeps01
What the fukk is white fragility?

Edit: I looked it up

noun
the tendency among members of the dominant white cultural group to have a defensive, wounded, angry, or dismissive response to evidence of racism.

L M A O
lmao

'dominant white cultural group'

does this apply to the world or just the west?

I mean, white people arn't dominant in China are they?
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Originally Posted By BigDeeps01
What the fukk is white fragility?

Edit: I looked it up

noun
the tendency among members of the dominant white cultural group to have a defensive, wounded, angry, or dismissive response to evidence of racism.

L M A O
Sounds exactly like 90% of misc tbh.
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Originally Posted By LegDayLol
lmao

'dominant white cultural group'

does this apply to the world or just the west?

I mean, white people arn't dominant in China are they?
It's funny when I think about how poor I grew up and all the black people on this site that more than likely grew up with more money / more opportunities than me. But I apparently have more opportunities / more privilege because I'm white

Is there a website or somewhere where I can claim this white privilege card?? They lost mine in the mail I guess
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You have to go to some ghettos in Eastern Europe to see white fragility lmao.
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I’m at least 3 tax brackets above you. Maybe more.
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Originally Posted By HayZues
Does anybody else see the absolute irony in this thread??
I reject the circular logic of the book where rejection of her theory is proof of her theory. I also believe that giving a group someone to blame their failures on will continue to perpetuate failure with that group, as it removes personal accountablity.
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Originally Posted By dannyg1217
no problem, *******, its an accurate summary
Ok *******.
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This liberal chit is getting out of hand.

She chose the perfect idea for her book, because if you disagree with it, liberals go "SEE! Youre just proving the book's point by disagreeing with it!"

So agree with it -> implies the book is valid
Disagree with it -> implies the book is valid
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**** that book
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Originally Posted By kingmanaverage
the book is stupid but the author is also most definitely white.

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Originally Posted By Leonydus
Recently,whitehas become an official race, But im not sure people know or even care that it was invented by a play-write in the 1600s. I get that USA has made things hella complicated since we are the melting pot and all, but it really seems like this was just a convenient move to lump all light skinned people together and people are taking advantage of that in combination with the overly used race card
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Originally Posted By bea5twood
I wouldn't know. I have zero interest in reading or hearing about it. Probably written by a self loathing sjw. But thanks for the summary *******.
This is correct.
Originally Posted By TypeNirvash
I always tread lightly into these threads, because something about them tends to feel so "charged".

And I suppose that the reason for it is likely because there's a whole lot of "if you do X, you might be Z" type statements that get thrown around by the woke left. So it's understandable when the knee-jerk to being told that you may have some sort of prejudice is to recoil and say "Of course I don't" and, to perhaps, be insulted. After all, it certainly comes off as a character assessment to be told that you may very well be prejudiced without realizing it. It's being told that (a) you're ignorant, willfully or otherwise, and (b) if you don't realize it, it is because you weren't smart enough to see it, then finally (c) if you walk away from the dialogue now, you're irredeemably racist. That's a very hard, and uncomfortable proposition to grasp. You're also expecting another person to conform to your immediate beliefs in real-time... But that's not how you bridge a gap.

I don't think that starting a conversation with an accusation has ever, in the history, of humankind, been productive in a positive way. Especially not when that accusation is tagged with the additional statement: "And if you don't have this conversation right now, you are choosing the wrong side."

Of course there is cause for concern when somebody calls you a "racist"; and if you're upset at being called racist, well, good. That's a sign that you don'twantto be racist, and most peopledon't want to be. It's not "White Fragility" as much as it is the knee jerk reaction to being told you're doing something wrong even when you're not actively, intentionally, or otherwise racist by the classical sense of the word.

We do have to recognize that we all have some sort of internal bias, and often that bias directs us toward people that are similar to us. You can see it in many different aspects of life, but the reason we do this is to protect ourselves from what feels like could be a painful rejection from another group that considers us different. When people come to America from other countries, often, they seek communities in which there are others like them. In this way, they do not have to step too far beyond their comfort zone (in an already stressful situation) while rebuilding their lives outside of their home country. I don't think this is racism, though, as much as it is remaining in one's own comfort zone.

But that being said, we also cannot deny that some form of racism exists, it definitely does. I've certainly heard people say things I consider racist, especially behind closed doors. Some things I've heard are from people I wouldn't have expected it from. I think, what makes me most concerned is that there is this sort of unspoken "it's okay to say this to you because you're also white, so you'll probably understand, and nobody is around" thing that happens every now and then. That definitely exists, and if you haven't experienced it, I suppose that you're fortunate because it's always incredibly awkward. Truthfully, this is not something that occurs often, but when it does happen, it's always surprising. But that also isn't to say that it's limited only to white people.

Anyway, this is a wordy post, like always. Hard to start my thoughts without elaborating on them, especially when it comes to something like this.

To cut to the chase; if there's a dialogue to be had about what could be done for everybody to see each other eye-to-eye, that'd be fantastic.But it doesn't, and shouldn't start, with either side flinging an insult or a character assessment at the other.
She addresses a lot of this in her book. One thing she tried to explain is that we all have prejudices and should feel glad when they're pointed out to us so we can work on them.

She also tries disabuse the reader of the notion of the good/bad racist binary - the notion that because you said or did something racist you are a bad or evil person.
Originally Posted By Sandmang27
That is a better example. She's accusing people of being fragile and defensive when met with a serious accusation and then using that defensiveness to prove her accusation instead of actual evidence.

It's like how in the book she changes the definition of racism so that only white people can be called racist. This is clearly not true but if you say that then that's somehow proof that you are racist.

Her claims are broad (aka ironically racist) but also ridiculous, at least most of them are. She ruins any good points with countless garbage. Like her Jackie Robinson "example" where she makes a completely untrue statement and uses that as proof of her crackpot point. No one thought he was the first black player good enough to make it, everyone knew he was the first one allowed and there were many good black players that deserved to be in the MLB and many bad white players in the MLB that didn't deserve to be there.

She's a typical "woke" leftist marxist and has somehow made a lot of money by going around to corporations and just accusing all non-black people of being racist and all black people of being group think children that need to be coddled and protected. 1 thing she was absolutely right about is that some of the most racist people are "woke" leftist white liberals aka her and her ilk.
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Originally Posted By HouseOfISRAEL
Maybe you should read it
You are exactly the type of person who i made this post for. See below if you havent already seen it
Originally Posted By tank2003
The problem with modern liberals is theyONLYaddress racism when they can blame it on white people. That's the only type of racism that exists to them. Nothing is going to ever change if both sides only want the other side to change. Conservatives want liberals to stop doing this and that, liberals want conservatives to stop doing this and that but WHITE FUKKING LIBERALS.....they are here sayingblack people can do this but people cant do exactly the same thing

-Black face vs white face (Black face is terrible but no one ever said anything about the Wayans Bros inWhite Chicks)
-N-word (if it's so bad when a white person says it, then no one should ever say it. but hypocrisy prevails)
-Dredlocks
-Rap music (Not a major issue now but i was told in high school that I shouldnt listen to rap music and have a loud system in my truck because i'm white)
-Shouldnt wear certain shoes (played Bball in middle school and had a really nice pair of Nikes and was told i didnt deserve them because i was white and they were gonna steal them)

And the list can probably go one and on. If we GENUINELY want change, then views have to be held consistent across the board. If you hate trump because of his epstein connection, then you better not vote for biden. If you claim to hate racism, dont just shrug and say "now you know how it feels" when a white person says they experienced racism. If you TRULY hate how come cops take it too far and kill civilians, then speak up for all the civilians killed. I cant be the only one who wants change

Ultimately, i feel like the MSM is primarily to blame. They, of course, have their agenda to push. but they are gatekeepers of knowledge and unfortunately, people still trust them. CNN settled out of court with Nick Sandman and others. Not to mention they threatened to doxx and sue a 16 year old for a meme he made. ABS and NBC st on the Epstein and Weinstein story because it would have hurt Democrat images at the time. I dont know of any fox news issues like these but there is an easily accessible list of their controversies.
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"The higher the prevalence of infectious diseases the higher the probability of totalitarian political attitudes."
-Dr. Jordan Peterson Sept 2017
"The search for a moral equivalent of war continues to define American Liberalism to this day."
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Originally Posted By Droopdx
Can confirm. Shaun King gets paid a lot on his gofundme’s for dead black people.
You tried. Stick to worshipping Clay Travis.
All it takes is Mookie Betts, Steph Curry, and Joe Burrow all sitting in the same car in order for one drunk driver to make the world a significantly better place.
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