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post 1611973971 07-29-2020, 06:48 AM
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Any parent pulling their kid from school

Is a massive cuck. US is already tremendously falling behind in education, so yeah let’s opt to pull our kid from school for the whole year even after the US pediatric association said kids need to go back

If I were that age I’d raise absolute hell srs
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Say that kid infects their parents and they die. Who is held accountable?
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Originally Posted By vitruv
Is a massive cuck. US is already tremendously falling behind in education, so yeah let’s opt to pull our kid from school for the whole year even after the US pediatric association said kids need to go back

If I were that age I’d raise absolute hell srs
the school already sucks, so send my kid back to school? lemme think about that logic.

my 6 year old run through times tables bc i put him on to khan academy and he already fuk with spanish
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Originally Posted By AltarOfPlagues
the school already sucks, so send my kid back to school? lemme think about that logic.

my 6 year old run through times tables bc i put him on to khan academy and he already fuk with spanish
What if it’s not half bad if the kid chooses to use its resources effectively?
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Originally Posted By Fang2
Say that kid infects their parents and they die. Who is held accountable?
Even then, they should wear a mask around them and socially distance and test themselves. At some point there needs to be some kind of meeting halfway.

Vast majority of older people who do get it turn out fine too
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How quickly the misc has flipped from its staunch anti-public schools and pro homeschooling stances.
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Agreed. Kids will just stay at home watching tik tok videos. Hard enough to get kids to do work at school. And as if a lot of these deadbeat parents will make their kids sit still and learn at home.
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Originally Posted By vitruv
What if it’s not half bad if the kid chooses to use its resources effectively?
what are you saying? american school system sucks because the kids are using the resources effectively?!
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Originally Posted By vitruv
Even then, they should wear a mask around them and socially distance and test themselves. At some point there needs to be some kind of meeting halfway.

Vast majority of older people who do get it turn out fine too
Why does there “need” to be some kind of meeting halfway? Our previous normal seemed to be the best we could do, with the conditions that existed at that time. Those conditions changed, so the previous normal is no longer the standard.

FYI, personally I feel if the state/schools feel it is safe to open, I submit to that. Our local school district just pushed opening to the right one month. I don’t see them opening at all.
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Originally Posted By AltarOfPlagues
what are you saying? american school system sucks because the kids are using the resources effectively?!
I’m saying there are plenty of kids that do use it effectively and that the resources are there and already spent on via property tax for any kid that wants to use them, but sure let’s just wipe all that away like some fuking dictatorship Jesus fuking Christ
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Originally Posted By Ironmanlet
Why does there “need” to be some kind of meeting halfway? Our previous normal seemed to be the best we could do, with the conditions that existed at that time. Those conditions changed, so the previous normal is no longer the standard.

FYI, personally I feel if the state/schools feel it is safe to open, I submit to that. Our local school district just pushed opening to the right one month. I don’t see them opening at all.
Because the consequences of American kids getting an entire year of suppressed education would be colossal, or even an entire semester.

There were times I loathed high school but if I was in this current situation then I’d fight like hell for people’s right to go back
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Originally Posted By vitruv
I’m saying there are plenty of kids that do use it effectively and that the resources are there and already spent on via property tax for any kid that wants to use them, but sure let’s just wipe all that away like some fuking dictatorship Jesus fuking Christ
my putting my kid on khan academy, piano and spanish tutoring puts him lightyears ahead of other kids and also takes zero resources away from other kids.

somehow im a cuck for that, by your reasoning.


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post 1611975851 07-29-2020, 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted By vitruv
Because the consequences of American kids getting an entire year of suppressed education would be colossal, or even an entire semester.

There were times I loathed high school but if I was in this current situation then I’d fight like hell for people’s right to go back
100% categorically agree.

That isn’t the only variable being used to make decisions though. It never has been. Previously, it was the most important, or at least weighed so much more than any other variable, it was clearly the answer. No matter what your political stance on the pandemic is (because pandemics are political), it is now taken into consideration for collective issues, like closing state parks, bars, and schools.
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Originally Posted By AltarOfPlagues
my putting my kid on khan academy, piano and spanish tutoring puts him lightyears ahead of other kids and also takes zero resources away from other kids.

somehow im a cuck for that, by your reasoning.
There’s a 99% chance your non college aged kid is not going to internalize jack chit from khan academy videos

You’re also throwing away resources your property taxes pay for = cuck
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I’m disappointed in gen Z. Not standing up for chit and they’re just gonna LDAR at home and fap gratuitously to tiktok and rob themselves of important experiences. Mark my words. This won’t go away after school opens, the mentality will still be there
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Originally Posted By vitruv
There’s a 99% chance your non college aged kid is not going to internalize jack chit from khan academy videos

You’re also throwing away resources your property taxes pay for = cuck
so i don't think you know what a child will "intermalize" given different means and modes of education- kids learn differently.

yea i am in favor of school vouchers.

you are saying literally everyone who qualifies for government welfare should go and get it or they are a cuck.


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institutionalize your kids at an early age through tax funded government run public schools that cater to the lowest common denominator or you are a cuck. is everything just a cuck now is anything not a cuck?
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Originally Posted By redraider86
How quickly the misc has flipped from its staunch anti-public schools and pro homeschooling stances.
We are seriously considering homeschooling. The only positive aspect I can see of the public school system is socialization and that can be accomplished other ways as well.
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Originally Posted By Fang2
Say that kid infects their parents and they die. Who is held accountable?
there isn't really much to indicate that it is the kid that infects the parents, moreso the other way around. Even if this is the case, coronavirus has a low enough mortality rate for those under the age 65. Implement safety measures in schools to limit the spread. If the kid or parent has underlying conditions then other arrangements can be made. Or if the kid is under the care of a grandparent, but at the very least there should be a choice here.
Originally Posted By redraider86
How quickly the misc has flipped from its staunch anti-public schools and pro homeschooling stances.
Saying that the misc is staunch "anti-public schools" misrepresents the point. A lot of people mostly have beef with what is being taught in these schools, i.e: teaching gender fluidity, being exposed to LGBT themes early in age and later on through high school and university, mostly indoctrination of liberal and leftist ideas and the dumbing down of standards. However, these arguments never typically centered around home schooling not being feasible for a lot of parents, families relying on lunch programs, poorer people being left behind, avenues for reporting child abuses, learning disabilities/disorders, etc.

Let's be honest, online learning is a joke and most people don't have the means to home school their child. The option for the parent to send their child to school should at least be there, which is really what the argument is about now, which is different from arguments centered around what they are teaching in schools. I would seriously consider homeschooling but I'm also not going to sit there and pretend it's an option that works for everybody because the alternative often entails a kid not being able to read, write and do math up to standard and grow up not being able to do or know basic chit.
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Originally Posted By AvengeMe
We are seriously considering homeschooling. The only positive aspect I can see of the public school system is socialization and that can be accomplished other ways as well.
It can definitely work when done well. Where I scratch my head is when weirdo flat earth miscers insist on homeschooling.
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Wait, so the U.S. is failing at education, so teaching your kids yourself is somehow worse than failing at education?

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Stop talking about education like it's the end all be all positive thing.

On a social level, education can be a useful measure. On the individual level, it doesn't matter.

Credentials matter for a lot of jobs but the learning itself doesn't. You don't learn anything useful in school, it's daycare. It's about how smart someone is, not about how much schooling they get.

Nature > nurture. A while back, there was this study where they took a bunch of low IQ black kids and gave them privileged white upbringings and educations, it did jack chit for making them smarter or more successful.
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Originally Posted By Soonerjohn
Wait, so the U.S. is failing at education, so teaching your kids yourself is somehow worse than failing at education?

Lettuce be oatmeal, most parents are not homeschooling their children. In the mind of most parents, now that schools are closed, their kids are even more of a chore than they were before. They are not addressing that by dedicating more resources to them.

Keeping this in mind, OP does have a point.
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We were gonna look into preschool for my son this year, he'll be 5 this fall. Couple things that concern us: it'll be a hard task to ask young child to wear a mask all day. And second, after seeing all thru the BS, I won't doubt if groups of students will be intentionally infected to push the agenda.

But good news is we've already been teaching him to read before this all happened so I'm not terribly worried about him not getting in a classroom right away.
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Originally Posted By mobp
Stop talking about education like it's the end all be all positive thing.

On a social level, education can be a useful measure. On the individual level, it doesn't matter.

Credentials matter for a lot of jobs but the learning itself doesn't. You don't learn anything useful in school, it's daycare. It's about how smart someone is, not about how much schooling they get.

Nature > nurture. A while back, there was this study where they took a bunch of low IQ black kids and gave them privileged white upbringings and educations, it did jack chit for making them smarter or more successful.
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Originally Posted By redraider86
It can definitely work when done well. Where I scratch my head is when weirdo flat earth miscers insist on homeschooling.
Lmao yeah I'm definitely not a flat earther. I'm more just trying to avoid raising a kid that will be on the news because they did something for some "cause" that they were brainwashed into believing whether it be left or right wing.
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There's plenty of proof academic standards have increased steadily over the past couple of decades. Here in Texas you can compare standards and they've become more and more rigorous since I was in school.

Now what I think has gotten worse, and has impacted children, is a lack of good parenting skills. The complaints about education typcically don't come from schools in the suburbs, because they do fine. It's our urban schools that are always behind. But, those urban schools by law are teaching the same things the "good schools" do. However, if teacher turnover is the problem that's because the kids don't know how to behave, and that once again comes from parenting.
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Originally Posted By sooby
Saying that the misc is staunch "anti-public schools" misrepresents the point. A lot of people mostly have beef with what is being taught in these schools, i.e: teaching gender fluidity, being exposed to LGBT themes early in age and later on through high school and university, mostly indoctrination of liberal and leftist ideas and the dumbing down of standards. However, these arguments never typically centered around home schooling not being feasible for a lot of parents, families relying on lunch programs, poorer people being left behind, avenues for reporting child abuses, learning disabilities/disorders, etc.

Let's be honest, online learning is a joke and most people don't have the means to home school their child. The option for the parent to send their child to school should at least be there, which is really what the argument is about now, which is different from arguments centered around what they are teaching in schools. I would seriously consider homeschooling but I'm also not going to sit there and pretend it's an option that works for everybody because the alternative often entails a kid not being able to read, write and do math up to standard and grow up not being able to do or know basic chit.
They're not being honest about the real point. Many, many miscers thought schools were evil institutions up until a few months ago, for the reasons that you mentioned. Now all of the sudden these same people don't have childcare, and from past threads I've seen on the topic, that seems to be the real issue. I absolutely feel for families who are struggling with online schooling and juggling other jobs and responsibilities. Big but, I have no sympathy for grown adults who cannot discipline their children nor care about their education or feed the children that they created. The abuse and screening for learning disabilities thing is huge, you're totally right about that. But really....I know this is harsh...stupid, lazy people are going to be left behind, and they were already being left behind in public schools. What's really frightening is how much the non-retards are flourishing after not being immersed with kids who are beyond saving. It sucks, but I can't say I'd be mad if I were 15 again and no longer having to tolerate the window lickers for 7 hours a day. Online learning is a joke when you're a joke. :/

I don't even disagree that the option should be there, but I'm not going to stop pointing out how quickly sentiments have changed.
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Lmao yeah I'm definitely not a flat earther. I'm more just trying to avoid raising a kid that will be on the news because they did something for some "cause" that they were brainwashed into believing whether it be left or right wing.
It also seems like if you take away the religious fundamentalism they may get in a private school, or the bullchit discipline issues and test taking prep they deal with, they would actually have time to be normal kids who enjoy normal kid things. Kudos to you if you go through with it.
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