Can't really name this drug but all I can say is that at times it apparently gives the user insane strength as if he's on a r0id rage and the bloke or gal doesn't feel any pain, as if there pain receptors are shut off. Fought with a couple of blokes on this chit and I'm trying to understand how it exactly gives that sort of advantage to the body and if there are any negative effects felt after it.

This is an actual serious discussion thread. Not trying to break the rules or anything but more so understanding the science behind this chit that's been plaguing the streets

Anyone ever used it and what's your experience with it? Did it also give you insane strength as if you're on a r01d rage and felt no pain from anything or did you have lighter effects?

On one occasion the guy that was on it was like 140lb maximum, 5'8 but it took four security guards to take this fuker down and he felt nothing from his arms being twisted, wrist being locked up and such. Like an absolute zombie

creatine, not even once

Chad's cum?

That Peruvian booger sugar is a beautiful thing

Sherm, that wet cigarette. That zooda bang. Very common especially in West Dallas. They feel nothing. They are numb to all emotion and as you said, pain. Most killers use it to numb themselves before a hit or a robbery.

To an even halfway educated (ex)drug user the above story is just another street tale about a new 'horror' drug (I hear it the same way you hear major bro-science that 'someone heard from a guy at the gym'). Drugs are just chemical compounds, they have a myriad of effects and there is a limit to what they can do.

No drug gives you 'super strength', no drug makes you a better fighter, no drug even directly makes you angry (that can just be a side affect of how the drug can alter your perception, as with alcohol). What you describe above could be attributed to a dissociative. Many dissociative compounds (such as PCP) can remove physical awareness of your body in a way which makes you disregard or not feel pain properly. This in turn can also make you possibly surpass some of your body's natural limits in terms of energy and strength as your subconscious awareness of them is removed. Such dissociatives (especially PCP) can also make you enter a mental state removed from reality which can lead to psychotic seeming thoughts or behaviour. If this chap was in the depths of such an experience the above story sounds like a possible reaction to a percieved threat, fear, psychotic aggression which was amplified in his mind by the drug.

So no, these substances are not 'super strength rage' drugs. Bad reactions can just happen and when they do the subject can be too far gone to have regard (or ability to consider) their own physical limits or safety

Understandable. Glad to have an intelligent response here.

I'll probably get infracted but the drug I'm talking about is basically Ice and it just so seems anyone that I have dealt with physically that were on this drug seem to have this mental stimulation that they don't feel pain. Another guard was about to break this guys forearm and he's just ****ing grinning like it didn't even hurt, the guy was even pushing further resistance so the guard could break his arm. It's some scary **** to deal with but it's the reality

Uhhh wut?

Meth heads have super strength now?

Still trying to understand the chemical side of it. Alex is giving me some pretty decent input, probably not just 'super strength' but normality isn't having four guys being needed to take someone down who has no alert of pain and is much more physically able then a normal person with that physical stature

OP miss me with that weak ass tweaker ****. That turns them into ghouls.

stimulants never really did it for me

makes you loco

It basically just lets you overcome limits because you dont feel the pain of overstraining the muscles.

Also, dont do it, youll cut your dick off.

Whole different kettle of fish then

To understand this you need to understand dopamine. Dopamine is (as i'm sure you know) a neurotransmitter that is part of your reward pathway and various other bodily functions. A natural underproduction of dopamine causes parkinsons disease. A natural over production of dopamine causes psychosis and in extreme cases, schizophrenia.

Now consider ice. It is a euphoric stimulant. It's main method of action is flooding the brain with dopamine and inhibiting the breakdown of it. This leads of an artificially heightened presence of dopamine in the brain which therefore leads to minor psychotic symptoms. Now consider an ice user does not sleep for a couple of days (due to the stimulating effects of the drug). When you do not sleep for a protracted period your body naturally releases more dopamine into your brain in order to keep you alert until you can next find sleep. this is a survival response.

So now we have an ever accumulating and increasing supply of dopamine being released by the drug and not being broken down, along with dopamine being released by the body due to lack of sleep. This storm of dopamine in the brain leads to severe psychosis and schizophrenic symptoms. Often along with this comes extreme fear, anxiety, paranoia and hallucinations which can very easily lead to the user becoming aggressive and violent (in their own head it is usually self defence against imagined threats). I have experience some very intense psychosis previously to the extent where i can hear and see entire lynch mobs that do not exist, percieve full on surveillance and swat teams of police tracking me, talk to people who aren't there etc etc. The longer the user remains awake and high the more intense this experience will become. To the point where semi-out of body psychotic breaks can occur and complete detatchement from reality.

This effect basically drives the user clinically insane until they are next able to sleep which could very easily lead to the kind of situation you describe above