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Thread: IFBB pro Luke Sandoe who died aged 31, death revealed to be HEART FAILURE NOT SUICIDE

post 1612599481 08-04-2020, 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted By SmillironS⏩
Can somebody put this in perspective to the levels of a healthy natty lifter of the same age? 67,000 is a large number but I don’t feel like I understand fully exactly how elevated he was.
1200 is the ceiling for TRT

The average natty dude might be at 600

2 grams a week would put someone at maybe 10,000 depending on their genetics and they would be drowning in estrogen since test converts to e2 and dht.

He likely took a bottle of adex every week to manage the estrogen, which is another drug that is very dangerous even in therapeutic doses, never mind in higher doses


https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1...AHA.119.044750

Its.. a lot
post 1612601011 08-04-2020, 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted By Halfway⏩
He likely took a bottle of adex every week to manage the estrogen, which is another drug that is very dangerous even in therapeutic doses, never mind in higher doses
You need (well "need" might not be the right word, but you know what I mean) AI with TRT correct?
post 1612601341 08-04-2020, 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted By Halfway⏩
1200 is the ceiling for TRT

The average natty dude might be at 600

2 grams a week would put someone at maybe 10,000 depending on their genetics and they would be drowning in estrogen since test converts to e2 and dht.

He likely took a bottle of adex every week to manage the estrogen, which is another drug that is very dangerous even in therapeutic doses, never mind in higher doses


https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1...AHA.119.044750

Its.. a lot
I honestly can’t fathom how somebody could live like that, my goodness I’m so ignorant to the dark side it’s absurd.
post 1612616861 08-04-2020, 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted By Polaris⏩
You need (well "need" might not be the right word, but you know what I mean) AI with TRT correct?
Possibly, I don't take one but I'm ok with E2 on the higher end of normal. Maybe 1/4 a tab adex a week at most.

Dr Crisler killed himself after the lawsuits started flooding in from clients he had over prescribed AIs to.
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