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post 1612877241 08-07-2020, 03:32 PM
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Serious Wuhan/Kung Flu, COVID19, Coronavirus question.

Serious question. Have any of you run across any recent articles or scientific articles that can answer this question?

If you're infected and recover, can you catch it again a week or two later and get sick all over again? Or do the antibodies you have attack it right away and give you immunity? How long does the immunity last?

I haven't seen or heard anyone discussing this topic since February or March, so I don't know what the current medical understanding is.
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post 1612877711 08-07-2020, 03:40 PM
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post 1612877881 08-07-2020, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted By MiscInformed⏩
Serious question. Have any of you run across any recent articles or scientific articles that can answer this question?

If you're infected and recover, can you catch it again a week or two later and get sick all over again? Or do the antibodies you have attack it right away and give you immunity? How long does the immunity last?

I haven't seen or heard anyone discussing this topic since February or March, so I don't know what the current medical understanding is.
I looked for the answer last week and only found articles implying that "maybe" you could; but there were no clear cut answers only guesses and speculation.
Normally they would clearly state..... yes your antibodies protect you.
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
I looked for the answer last week and only found articles implying that "maybe" you could; but there were no clear cut answers only guesses and speculation.
Normally they would clearly state..... yes your antibodies protect you.
Normally they wouldn't shut down the entire world for a bad flu, nothing is normal about the reporting or the reaction by governments.
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Immunity is not well understood yet the way we understand other infections. The speculation is that you probably won't get reinfected for at least some months. Testing is still not 100% so we may have individuals testing negative and then have symptoms flare up again, but the negative was a false negative.

Short answer, we don't know yet, but should know more in months time.
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While the specific detectable antibodies decline rapidly after infection, and may be undetectable in a couple months, typically the cell mediated immune response lasts much longer. That is in essence your body has “learned the threat” and is able to initiate a rapid and effective response to the antigen. However, that doesn’t last forever, but usually a long time. An example is getting chicken pox as a kid, being immune for 40 years or so, then getting shingles later in life from the same virus. I’m pretty sure my family all had it in January, went on a trip two weeks ago to the Wis Dells, no masks, no distancing, no concerns. Nobody knows for sure, but it would be unlikely to get reinfected with symptomatic disease. Usually to get the same virus twice it needs to undergo substantive changes through mutations to the extent the body doesn’t recognize it. So far major changes resulting from mutations for SARS-COV-2 are not substantial.
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Originally Posted By Plateauplower⏩
While the specific detectable antibodies decline rapidly after infection, and may be undetectable in a couple months, typically the cell mediated immune response lasts much longer. That is in essence your body has “learned the threat” and is able to initiate a rapid and effective response to the antigen. However, that doesn’t last forever, but usually a long time. An example is getting chicken pox as a kid, being immune for 40 years or so, then getting shingles later in life from the same virus. I’m pretty sure my family all had it in January, went on a trip two weeks ago to the Wis Dells, no masks, no distancing, no concerns. Nobody knows for sure, but it would be unlikely to get reinfected with symptomatic disease. Usually to get the same virus twice it needs to undergo substantive changes through mutations to the extent the body doesn’t recognize it. So far major changes resulting from mutations for SARS-COV-2 are not substantial.
If true, why is the media panicking so much about new cases? It's inevitable that most of the population is gonna need to be infected and recover from it to establish herd immunity. The longer we string this out, the more chance that the previously infected people lose their immunity.

I'm at the point now where I think it's obvious that the only course is to encourage exposure for people under 40 or 45 who don't have the known underlying conditions that make it the virus more deadly.

If recovering from a mild infection leads to several months of immunity, then this thing could have been over and done with already.
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there is not enough evidence. some people said you could then they found out they never had it. no antibodies in first place. usually if you have you have antibodies. and it should help you fight against it for awhile. but corona virus just doesnt have enough data

people who think they have it twice usually didnt have it first time. cause no tests

need more data

theyre paying people to get corona to give it to them again later right now. so time will tell.

the problem is like the flu. it evolves.
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As far as I know, I've only read one story about a doctor who got corona, recovered, and then got it again 3 months later. I got corona about 9 weeks ago and I haven't gotten it again. so there's that. lol.
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Originally Posted By thenightskies⏩
there is not enough evidence. some people said you could then they found out they never had it. no antibodies in first place. usually if you have you have antibodies. and it should help you fight against it for awhile. but corona virus just doesnt have enough data

people who think they have it twice usually didnt have it first time. cause no tests

need more data

theyre paying people to get corona to give it to them again later right now. so time will tell.

the problem is like the flu. it evolves.
I know.

It's such a crucial part of any policy decisions and yet, nobody talks about it and hasn't since way back in March.

I was wondering when they'd get around to paying miscers to get infected and re-infected to see what happens...
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Originally Posted By MiscInformed⏩
If true, why is the media panicking so much about new cases? It's inevitable that most of the population is gonna need to be infected and recover from it to establish herd immunity. The longer we string this out, the more chance that the previously infected people lose their immunity.

I'm at the point now where I think it's obvious that the only course is to encourage exposure for people under 40 or 45 who don't have the known underlying conditions that make it the virus more deadly.

If recovering from a mild infection leads to several months of immunity, then this thing could have been over and done with already.
i read recently that there were several strains with different symptoms, so depending on which one you get (1-6) determines how fkd you are.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-19...ase-different/
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Originally Posted By MiscInformed⏩
I know.

It's such a crucial part of any policy decisions and yet, nobody talks about it and hasn't since way back in March.

I was wondering when they'd get around to paying miscers to get infected and re-infected to see what happens...
Because they don't care anymore. All they care about is their magic vaccine, that is what will save us from this evil virus.
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Originally Posted By MiscInformed⏩
If true, why is the media panicking so much about new cases? It's inevitable that most of the population is gonna need to be infected and recover from it to establish herd immunity. The longer we string this out, the more chance that the previously infected people lose their immunity.

I'm at the point now where I think it's obvious that the only course is to encourage exposure for people under 40 or 45 who don't have the known underlying conditions that make it the virus more deadly.

If recovering from a mild infection leads to several months of immunity, then this thing could have been over and done with already.
Can’t speak in absolutes due to lack of data. But, it’s no magic virus. Cell mediated immune response is real, people have survived far worse epidemics this is mild compared to some viruses out there. There’s no way we would have herd immunity that fast, but the case count is much higher. Herd immunity doesn’t work like a light switch. It’s effect is gradual as more immune people serve as dead end hosts. The way this virus works, every case in a person is likely to infect at least everyone living in that household and perhaps a few extras. That is compounded by asymptomatic cases that could potentially infect many more. That’s where the mitigation efforts help. No confirmed cases in my house because it was before testing, but I understand biology enough to not buy into the fear mongering. The virus is real, and is a very real threat to a very small component of the population. People will die, but medical errors are one of the leading causes of death at 250,000 per year, and we pay to get that...use caution, especially around higher risk people, but live your life.
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Was the world shut down when we had Polio/ Smallpox / Measles/ Hong Kong flu ? Globalists just want more power.
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Originally Posted By oreogasm⏩
Was the world shut down when we had Polio/ Smallpox / Measles/ Hong Kong flu ? Globalists just want more power.
No.

Even the black death which wiped out 1/3 to 1/2 of Europe didn't have such draconian restrictions.

I think it's real but everyday I'm looking at the stats and the response just doesn't make any sense, I'm not saying the virus was part of the plan but just lol if you don't think they are exploiting it for some ulterior motive, as the phrase goes "never let a crisis go to waste".
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Originally Posted By aranadiscoteca⏩
No.

Even the black death which wiped out 1/3 to 1/2 of Europe didn't have such draconian restrictions.

I think it's real but everyday I'm looking at the stats and the response just doesn't make any sense, I'm not saying the virus was part of the plan but just lol if you don't think they are exploiting it for some ulterior motive, as the phrase goes "never let a crisis go to waste".
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You're not supposed to get it twice but I have known one person who had it and got infected again.
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