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15% shirt on
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12% shirt off.
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probably 15%
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9%. If you're not ripped as a natty, you'll just look like chit.
Since there's no big and ripped, might as well go for ripped and lean. Women love it.
Since there's no big and ripped, might as well go for ripped and lean. Women love it.
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Anything less than 30% is auschwitz mode for a natty
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08-11-2020, 01:10 PM
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08-11-2020, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted By backinthegymbro⏩
brb not even filling out clothes9%. If you're not ripped as a natty, you'll just look like chit.
Since there's no big and ripped, might as well go for ripped and lean. Women love it.
Since there's no big and ripped, might as well go for ripped and lean. Women love it.
Brb looking frail as fuk next to other dudes, even non lifters
Brb being weak, not being taken seriously, not being ablento intimidate men
Brb brb
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I got down to ~10% for about 2 weeks, and not a fan. Not even close to stage lean but the strength decrease in the gym is hard to deal with.
Anything between 11-15 looks "shredded" to most normies anyway so unless you plan on competing or being a fitness model there isn't really a point to get to single digit.
I'd like to float between 12-14 ideally
Anything between 11-15 looks "shredded" to most normies anyway so unless you plan on competing or being a fitness model there isn't really a point to get to single digit.
I'd like to float between 12-14 ideally
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Originally Posted By backinthegymbro⏩
Really hard to get to and maintain a legit 9% as a natty without feeling like sh*t all the time and being obsessively strict with calories. No thanks Jeff. 12% if you're shirtless a lot 15% if not9%. If you're not ripped as a natty, you'll just look like chit.
Since there's no big and ripped, might as well go for ripped and lean. Women love it.
Since there's no big and ripped, might as well go for ripped and lean. Women love it.
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08-11-2020, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted By Tanerian⏩
This is the correct answer. I will not be taking questions.15% shirt on
12% shirt off.
12% shirt off.
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Originally Posted By HYDRAE⏩
12% with a shirt on as long as you keep some dumbbells in a bag at all times to keep your pump visibleThis is the correct answer. I will not be taking questions.
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Your question makes no sense, everyone carries body fat differently relative to their bone structuring & amount of lean tissue.
12% on you will look different than the next guy.
And then there's everyone missing that you're not just one percentage, you can be 10% on your arms and then 14% around the abdomen etc etc.
12% on you will look different than the next guy.
And then there's everyone missing that you're not just one percentage, you can be 10% on your arms and then 14% around the abdomen etc etc.
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Originally Posted By kinzu1996⏩
Other dude is off a bit. You're around 15% now. I'm a bit leaner than you are currently and I've gained quite a bit of fat from when I was 10-12i got a big frame, short limbs with wide clavicles and popeye forearms, i think i would benefit from 10%, never went below 12 for years
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Originally Posted By Coomer22⏩
My strength didn't change much when i was ripped compared to bulk.brb not even filling out clothes
Brb looking frail as fuk next to other dudes, even non lifters
Brb being weak, not being taken seriously, not being ablento intimidate men
Brb brb
Brb looking frail as fuk next to other dudes, even non lifters
Brb being weak, not being taken seriously, not being ablento intimidate men
Brb brb
Lean/striations make your muscles look much more hard and defined over the soft fat look.
Even if your overall muscles are smaller, they'll look bigger and more impressive.
A ripped lifter will always be bigger than a nonlifter of the same weight. No one cares bout nonlifting fatcels either.
I don't expect a red to understand tho.
Originally Posted By RagnarChadbrok⏩
It just takes diet to reach it and then eat maintenance. Once you reach maintenance stage, it's not bad.Really hard to get to and maintain a legit 9% as a natty without feeling like sh*t all the time and being obsessively strict with calories. No thanks Jeff. 12% if you're shirtless a lot 15% if not
You gotta make sacrifices if you want to be chiseled.
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08-11-2020, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted By Tanerian⏩
2nd response pretty much nailed it. And since everyone carries fat a little differently I would add to this and say it's a range. 11-13% for beach/pool season when you'll be shirtless a lot, 14-16% otherwise to look good in clothes.15% shirt on
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Also depends how much muscle mass you carry. Someone who is 6'-0" is going to look better in general at 200#/15% than someone with the same frame at 160#/10%. (170# lean mass vs 145# lean mass)
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08-11-2020, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted By backinthegymbro⏩
You look like chit in clothes and all my points still hold true. Lmao at not even being able to intimidate and throw around a 15 year old because you're a weak frail *******My strength didn't change much when i was ripped compared to bulk.
Lean/striations make your muscles look much more hard and defined over the soft fat look.
Even if your overall muscles are smaller, they'll look bigger and more impressive.
A ripped lifter will always be bigger than a nonlifter of the same weight. No one cares bout nonlifting fatcels either.
I don't expect a red to understand tho.
It just takes diet to reach it and then eat maintenance. Once you reach maintenance stage, it's not bad.
You gotta make sacrifices if you want to be chiseled.
Lean/striations make your muscles look much more hard and defined over the soft fat look.
Even if your overall muscles are smaller, they'll look bigger and more impressive.
A ripped lifter will always be bigger than a nonlifter of the same weight. No one cares bout nonlifting fatcels either.
I don't expect a red to understand tho.
It just takes diet to reach it and then eat maintenance. Once you reach maintenance stage, it's not bad.
You gotta make sacrifices if you want to be chiseled.
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From what I've seen as a life-long natty:
6-10% (great but hard to maintain): This is ideal if you're in a warm climate/a culture where you're frequently at beaches/pools. You'll really stand out if you're this lean, even if you're DYEL status. When you throw on a shirt though, you look like a bish, which is why I don't think it's that great outside of CA/FL type of places. It's also ridiculously hard to maintain this leanness and have a normal social life.
12-14% (ideal): Big enough to fill a shirt and maintain with a 6 day clean, 1 day dirty diet; small enough to have abs when shirtless.
16-18% (good but not elite)- This is probably the max you want to go if you want to stand out at all and is where I'm at now. It's also very easy to maintain because it's basically the "eats clean on weekdays, falls off on weekends" physique. If you have some size/strength, you'll stand out in clothes, but you'll look either good or aggressively mediocre without a shirt (pray for the proper lighting).
18-22% (below average or aggressively mediocre- Unless you have excellent fat distribution genetics (i.e. doesn't go to face/midsection), or are exceptionally strong for your weight, you'll look like every other dude. Not a standout physique
22%+ (LDAR or hit the gym fatty)- Not going to stand out at all unless you're really tall and can pull off the "bear mode" look. It's time to get serious about diet/exercise if you're at 22%+
6-10% (great but hard to maintain): This is ideal if you're in a warm climate/a culture where you're frequently at beaches/pools. You'll really stand out if you're this lean, even if you're DYEL status. When you throw on a shirt though, you look like a bish, which is why I don't think it's that great outside of CA/FL type of places. It's also ridiculously hard to maintain this leanness and have a normal social life.
12-14% (ideal): Big enough to fill a shirt and maintain with a 6 day clean, 1 day dirty diet; small enough to have abs when shirtless.
16-18% (good but not elite)- This is probably the max you want to go if you want to stand out at all and is where I'm at now. It's also very easy to maintain because it's basically the "eats clean on weekdays, falls off on weekends" physique. If you have some size/strength, you'll stand out in clothes, but you'll look either good or aggressively mediocre without a shirt (pray for the proper lighting).
18-22% (below average or aggressively mediocre- Unless you have excellent fat distribution genetics (i.e. doesn't go to face/midsection), or are exceptionally strong for your weight, you'll look like every other dude. Not a standout physique
22%+ (LDAR or hit the gym fatty)- Not going to stand out at all unless you're really tall and can pull off the "bear mode" look. It's time to get serious about diet/exercise if you're at 22%+
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Originally Posted By imbeingcereal⏩
Repped. This is a pretty good and realistic breakdown of the ranges...I'd add you skipped over the 10-12% - which IMO is truly the "ideal" where you don't have to be crazy strict with diet but still have the semblance of a 6 pack.From what I've seen as a life-long natty:
6-10% (great but hard to maintain): This is ideal if you're in a warm climate/a culture where you're frequently at beaches/pools. You'll really stand out if you're this lean, even if you're DYEL status. When you throw on a shirt though, you look like a bish, which is why I don't think it's that great outside of CA/FL type of places. It's also ridiculously hard to maintain this leanness and have a normal social life.
12-14% (ideal): Big enough to fill a shirt and maintain with a 6 day clean, 1 day dirty diet; small enough to have abs when shirtless.
16-18% (good but not elite)- This is probably the max you want to go if you want to stand out at all and is where I'm at now. It's also very easy to maintain because it's basically the "eats clean on weekdays, falls off on weekends" physique. If you have some size/strength, you'll stand out in clothes, but you'll look either good or aggressively mediocre without a shirt (pray for the proper lighting).
18-22% (below average or aggressively mediocre- Unless you have excellent fat distribution genetics (i.e. doesn't go to face/midsection), or are exceptionally strong for your weight, you'll look like every other dude. Not a standout physique
22%+ (LDAR or hit the gym fatty)- Not going to stand out at all unless you're really tall and can pull off the "bear mode" look. It's time to get serious about diet/exercise if you're at 22%+
6-10% (great but hard to maintain): This is ideal if you're in a warm climate/a culture where you're frequently at beaches/pools. You'll really stand out if you're this lean, even if you're DYEL status. When you throw on a shirt though, you look like a bish, which is why I don't think it's that great outside of CA/FL type of places. It's also ridiculously hard to maintain this leanness and have a normal social life.
12-14% (ideal): Big enough to fill a shirt and maintain with a 6 day clean, 1 day dirty diet; small enough to have abs when shirtless.
16-18% (good but not elite)- This is probably the max you want to go if you want to stand out at all and is where I'm at now. It's also very easy to maintain because it's basically the "eats clean on weekdays, falls off on weekends" physique. If you have some size/strength, you'll stand out in clothes, but you'll look either good or aggressively mediocre without a shirt (pray for the proper lighting).
18-22% (below average or aggressively mediocre- Unless you have excellent fat distribution genetics (i.e. doesn't go to face/midsection), or are exceptionally strong for your weight, you'll look like every other dude. Not a standout physique
22%+ (LDAR or hit the gym fatty)- Not going to stand out at all unless you're really tall and can pull off the "bear mode" look. It's time to get serious about diet/exercise if you're at 22%+
Obviously you can't go bear mode with your diet but I've been maintaining around 12% for the past couple months eating around 2500 average calories. I workout every day and stay fairly active so I'm sure that's part of it. But definitely sustainable without having to be crazy strict.
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12-15% is the healthy range for men. 20-25% for women, anything less should only be temporary for the summer/beach
if you're not competing it's not worth it, maintaining a single digit bf% is soul crushing and unhealthy
if you're not competing it's not worth it, maintaining a single digit bf% is soul crushing and unhealthy
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8-10%, srs.
Being ripped is the way to look most impressive as a natural in my opinion. Clothes will also fit you better, face will look better and girls prefer low bf%.
For me it’s much easier to maintain 12-14% though. I can eat basically whatever the hell I like and not go above 14%.
Being ripped is the way to look most impressive as a natural in my opinion. Clothes will also fit you better, face will look better and girls prefer low bf%.
For me it’s much easier to maintain 12-14% though. I can eat basically whatever the hell I like and not go above 14%.
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