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post 1613413921 08-13-2020, 07:58 AM
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If vaccines work why do vaxcels get made at antivaxers

If you have had all your vaccines why would you get irate at some autist who decides to forego the vaccine? Logic would suggest that you are fully protected and can't catch anything seeing as you are vaccinated.
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- Anti-vaxxer parents don't vaccinate their kids
- Send their kids to school with measles or some chit that's completely avoidable through a vaccine
- Other kids at school contract the virus because of those idiot parents
post 1613414141 08-13-2020, 08:01 AM
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I am no scientist, but i believe that if viruses are allowed to spread they will likely mutate and at some point be able to infect people who have the vaccine.
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Originally Posted By TheMiscHatesHim
- Anti-vaxxer parents don't vaccinate their kids
- Send their kids to school with measles or some chit that's completely avoidable through a vaccine
- Other kids at school contract the virus because of those idiot parents
How could those other kids at school contract the virus if they are vaccinated from it though?
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Originally Posted By TheMiscHatesHim
- Anti-vaxxer parents don't vaccinate their kids
- Send their kids to school with measles or some chit that's completely avoidable through a vaccine
- Other kids at school contract the virus because of those idiot parents
If your kid dies because some other kid doesn't get a shot in his arm, then that's on your kid and his chitty immune system. Lol at blaming others for something like that.
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When I was a kid, everyone got mad at anyone who was drinking mountain dew because of that dye. No one really understood what the dye did, but if you drunk mountain dew you were an outcast and were yelled at.
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Originally Posted By grey27
When I was a kid, everyone got mad at anyone who was drinking mountain dew because of that dye. No one really understood what the dye did, but if you drunk mountain dew you were an outcast and were yelled at.
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post 1613414601 08-13-2020, 08:07 AM
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post 1613414681 08-13-2020, 08:07 AM
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No one gives a fuk if you don't vaccinate your kids, but if you spew bullchit and try to persuade other into not doing so, people will get mad




Originally Posted By ymer
Same logic applies to maskcels that say that YOU should wear a mask in order to not endanger them.

But if masks work, shouldn't your mask protect you from me?

Panicels gonna drink the koolaid every single time.
Masks are just one small layer of protection that reduces the probability, there are still a billion ways to accidentally spread or contract it while having a mask
post 1613414851 08-13-2020, 08:10 AM
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The answer is simple really...

Because people cant mind their own fkng business anymore.
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Originally Posted By DSTEE
No one gives a fuk if you don't vaccinate your kids, but if you spew bullchit about not vaccinating them and spread false info about the facts, people will get mad
Not true.

You can literally be banned from places for refusing a vaccine. So people do give a fk if you dont get a vaccine. My question remains.
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The backpedalling and gobbledegook of all the militant pro-vaccine nutjobs when Russia announced a vaccine was hilarious.

You couldnt even have concern about a vaccine being "mandatory", you couldnt question how rushed it was, you couldnt show concern of longterm health affects without being screamed an ANTI VAXXER.

"Putin declares Russia has vaccine"

All those flogs:


All turned anti vaxxers overnight.
post 1613414991 08-13-2020, 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted By umop3pisdn
How could those other kids at school contract the virus if they are vaccinated from it though?
The short answer is that the measles vaccine, like most vaccines, is not 100% bulletproof (although it is something like 95% effective).

Imagine a school with 100 kids: 50 are vaccinated and 50 are not. A measles outbreak will essentially impact all 50 of the non-vaccinated kids, but only 1-2 of the vaccinated.

Still, if you're the parent of that 1 kid, how are you going to feel about the parents who ostensibly infected your kid?
post 1613415201 08-13-2020, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted By TheMiscHatesHim
Still, if you're the parent of that 1 kid, how are you going to feel about the parents who ostensibly infected your kid?
At that particular point what good would it do you to feel one way or another about that 1 kids parents? serious question... It would just be extra hate and baggage to carry around that doesn't solve your current problem.
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post 1613415251 08-13-2020, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted By Bar182
The backpedalling and gobbledegook of all the militant pro-vaccine nutjobs when Russia announced a vaccine was hilarious.

You couldnt even have concern about a vaccine being "mandatory", you couldnt question how rushed it was, you couldnt show concern of longterm health affects without being screamed an ANTI VAXXER.

"Putin declares Russia has vaccine"

All those flogs:


All turned anti vaxxers overnight.
Might have something to do with the fact that vaccines typically take YEARS to be produced in a safe manner, and now we are supposed to believe that they've got all the kinks worked out in a matter of a few months?

Logic, not even once.
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post 1613415261 08-13-2020, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted By DSTEE
No one gives a fuk if you don't vaccinate your kids, but if you spew bullchit about not vaccinating them and spread false info about the facts, people will get mad
Masks are just one small layer of protection that reduces the probability, there are still a billion ways to accidentally spread or contract it while having a mask
You get your "facts" from the same people who told you:

Trump was gonna lose
White people owe other races money just for being White, and are evil because of it, while blacks are not responsible for their actions
The world is going to end in 20 years, (prediction revised every 10 years, but it's always 20 years from now) because we burn too much oil
Millions of people were going to die from a flu virus
Intentionally banned the drug that cures said type of flu virus, put infected people in nursing homes, and encouraged lying about cause of death, all in order to inflate the death toll

By all means continue to listen to people who lie to your face and trust them over what you see with your own eyes. But sooner or later, reality is gonna bite you in the ass.
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Originally Posted By umop3pisdn
Not true.

You can literally be banned from places for refusing a vaccine. So people do give a fk if you dont get a vaccine. My question remains.
I googled the titled and it was a fukking TMZ article about a hypothetical "could". No vaccine here is mandatory, and I've never heard of anyone actually rejected from school because of it.
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Originally Posted By TheMiscHatesHim
The short answer is that the measles vaccine, like most vaccines, is not 100% bulletproof (although it is something like 95% effective).

Imagine a school with 100 kids: 50 are vaccinated and 50 are not. A measles outbreak will essentially impact all 50 of the non-vaccinated kids, but only 1-2 of the vaccinated.

Still, if you're the parent of that 1 kid, how are you going to feel about the parents who ostensibly infected your kid?
I'd be more pissed at believing in something so strongly like a vaccine only for it to not work and my beta kid still catch the disease.
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Originally Posted By yewotm8
You get your "facts" from the same people who told you:

Trump was gonna lose
White people owe other races money just for being White, and are evil because of it, while blacks are not responsible for their actions
The world is going to end in 20 years, (prediction revised every 10 years, but it's always 20 years from now) because we burn too much oil
Millions of people were going to die from a flu virus
Intentionally banned the drug that cures said type of flu virus, put infected people in nursing homes, and encouraged lying about cause of death, all in order to inflate the death toll

By all means continue to listen to people who lie to your face and trust them over what you see with your own eyes. But sooner or later, reality is gonna bite you in the ass.
Don't forget weapons of mass destruction and muslims did 9/11
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Originally Posted By 1slo5oh
At that particular point what good would it do you to feel one way or another about that 1 kids parents? serious question... It would just be extra hate and baggage to carry around that doesn't solve your current problem.
Not sure if srs. So you just never hold other people accountable for their actions and carelessness? Especially if it came to your child's life and something that is avoidable?

Another example: a drunk driver kills your mother, who was wearing her seatbelt and driving the speed limit. You're not going to "feel one way or another" about the piece of chit who carelessly got behind the wheel?
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Originally Posted By TheMiscHatesHim
Not sure if srs. So you just never hold other people accountable for their actions and carelessness? Especially if it came to your child's life and something that is avoidable?

Another example: a drunk driver kills your mother, who was wearing her seatbelt and driving the speed limit. You're not going to "feel one way or another" about the piece of chit who carelessly got behind the wheel?
Imagine living in a world where you get mad at a parent for not injecting their child with pig fat.

The three vaccines which contain porcine gelatine are:
Fluenz Tetra - a nasal spray vaccine which protects children against flu.
MMR VaxPro - a jab which protects against measles, mumps and rubella.
Zostavax - an injection to protect adults against shingles.
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Im NOT anti-vax but I think pumping live viruses into newborn babies right after they've been delivered with little to no immune system has to be one of the dumbest things I've ever seen..When they are vaccinating your kid day one for diseases they probably wont ever encounter (much less encounter in the first year of life) shows they dont care about YOUR kid, they care about the herd.

You SHOULD vaccinate if you dont have a kid with a compromised system but you should spread the vaccinations out over time. You massively reduce the risk to your child and still get the benefit if you vaccinate prior to school starting..but who was logic.

inb4 herp derp - think of the childern - I am.
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One problem is that there are people who can't be vaccinated because they have medical and genetic issues. One stupid person who doesn't vaccinate their kids can spread measles or some other preventable disease to others who can't be vaccinated.
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Originally Posted By radrd
One problem is that there are people who can't be vaccinated because they have medical and genetic issues. One stupid person who doesn't vaccinate their kids can spread measles or some other preventable disease to others who can't be vaccinated.
Fukk em, those kids shouldn't have been born soft ass pussies...
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Originally Posted By TheMiscHatesHim
Not sure if srs. So you just never hold other people accountable for their actions and carelessness? Especially if it came to your child's life and something that is avoidable?

Another example: a drunk driver kills your mother, who was wearing her seatbelt and driving the speed limit. You're not going to "feel one way or another" about the piece of chit who carelessly got behind the wheel?
You can get your panties all in a wad if you want but it literally will do you not one bit of fkn good.


And now you want to compare a drunk driver breaking the law killing somebody to a vaccine that isnt mandatory and the kid only gets sick... SMDH... Ok, Karen!
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Originally Posted By yewotm8
If your kid dies because some other kid doesn't get a shot in his arm, then that's on your kid and his chitty immune system. Lol at blaming others for something like that.
That's like saying if you knowingly give someone an STD, it's their fault as well
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Originally Posted By Fang2
That's like saying if you knowingly give someone an STD, it's their fault as well
I'm pretty sure I've seen that argument here as well. At least misc is consistent.
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Originally Posted By TheMiscHatesHim
The short answer is that the measles vaccine, like most vaccines, is not 100% bulletproof (although it is something like 95% effective).

Imagine a school with 100 kids: 50 are vaccinated and 50 are not. A measles outbreak will essentially impact all 50 of the non-vaccinated kids, but only 1-2 of the vaccinated.

Still, if you're the parent of that 1 kid, how are you going to feel about the parents who ostensibly infected your kid?
agreed, thats why I don't want my kids going to school with homosexuals
imagine a school with 100 kids, 50 are homos 50 are not. A massive boner outbreak will essentially impact all 50 of the homosexual kids, but only 1-2 non homos.
I would be pissed if my kid was the 1 half homo half straight freak
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Originally Posted By umop3pisdn
If you have had all your vaccines why would you get irate at some autist who decides to forego the vaccine? Logic would suggest that you are fully protected and can't catch anything seeing as you are vaccinated.
Vaccines greatly reduce the chance of contracting a virus but it isn't 100% guaranteed. However, if enough people get the vaccine, you can basically "eradicate" a virus or disease by bringing the risk down to basically non-existent levels.

For example, around 95% of those who get the measles vaccine develops immunity. If somebody without the measles vaccine contracts the virus and spreads it to 100 people, about 5 people will contract the virus, and those 5 can then spread it. However, if that person was vaccinated, there's a 95% chance it wouldn't have spread and also a less chance that the person in question wouldn't have gotten the virus from somebody else in the first place. You see how it could quickly spiral out of control if the number of those unvaccinated were higher.

Look up herd immunity. It also protects people who for health reasons is unable to take the vaccine by reducing the opportunity for it to spread. It also has less opportunity to mutate, although for measles most mutations would deleterious in nature which is why we don't have a different vaccine each year.

73% of cases in the US have been linked to those who have not gotten vaccinated and there was about 1200 confirmed cases in the US in 2019. So people with the vaccine can indeed still contract the virus

The flu vaccine is different from measles because the flu vaccine constantly mutates and the vaccines aren't very effective versus certain strains. I think around 40-50% effective but still has prevented many deaths. It's basically a guessing game almost to figure out which will be the most dominant strain.

A few people not being vaccinated isn't a huge deal for certain viruses, but if that few amount of people eventually turns into 50% of the population, it might be a problem.



Also don't get mad at me, just stating the logic and science behind it. As far as rights go that's a different issue.
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