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How many grams of sugar per day is the limit for optimal health?
I see conflicting advice online. Some experts say no more than 36 grams of added sugar for men, some say 50 grams. Some say a
percentage like no more than 10% of your diet should consist of added sugars. But the average american consumes around 76 grams of
sugar per day. How strict are you guys with your sugar consumption? And what is your daily set limit and how do you keep track?
percentage like no more than 10% of your diet should consist of added sugars. But the average american consumes around 76 grams of
sugar per day. How strict are you guys with your sugar consumption? And what is your daily set limit and how do you keep track?
08-13-2020, 08:08 AM
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as little as possible since it promotes inflammation. I don't count it but avoid it.
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08-13-2020, 08:08 AM
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30 grams max if I were actually tracking it. Used to mainly be coffee + yogurt.
Just found this one the past week. Hard to find much in this brand locally for some reason and it's my favorite.
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Just found this one the past week. Hard to find much in this brand locally for some reason and it's my favorite.
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08-13-2020, 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted By LtGoose⏩
Ideally yeah, but it's kind of hard nowadays. Food manufacturers add sugar in everything and it adds up.All your sugar should come from the fruits in your diet and nowhere else
08-13-2020, 08:21 AM
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In the last month i developed a small addiction to Coke....... (in the bottle) Right around 8pm at night. feelsbad but I guess it's better than an 3 IPAs........ ****ing sugar taste so good lol
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Originally Posted By pengh⏩
Damn that's bad lol. A bottle of coke has like 40 grams of sugar plus caffeine. All that at 8pm at night is gonna mess up your health and sleep too.In the last month i developed a small addiction to Coke....... (in the bottle) Right around 8pm at night. feelsbad but I guess it's better than an 3 IPAs........ ****ing sugar taste so good lol
08-13-2020, 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted By AimForPeace⏩
being serious? fukk. Been feeling like **** too. brah I used to drink like 8-10 beers at night, every night, so this feels like a small rewardDamn that's bad lol. A bottle of coke has like 40 grams of sugar plus caffeine. All that at 8pm at night is gonna mess up your health and sleep too.
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08-13-2020, 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted By pengh⏩
On that ride. Gotta cut it out.In the last month i developed a small addiction to Coke....... (in the bottle) Right around 8pm at night. feelsbad but I guess it's better than an 3 IPAs........ ****ing sugar taste so good lol
Not at night, but in the afternoon. Cola on ice is so good. Quick energy hit too.
Used to keep it to only 2 or 3 of the teeny cans a week roughly.
It can't be as bad for you as the beer as far as calories. Sugar is no bueno for inflammation and caffeine keeps you awake. You might try caffeine free and see if you still enjoy it the same.
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08-13-2020, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted By pengh⏩
I'm serious. I'm not a dietitian or fitness expert by any means, but I think it would best to cut out the soda entirely.being serious? fukk. Been feeling like **** too. brah I used to drink like 8-10 beers at night, every night, so this feels like a small reward
Originally Posted By pengh⏩
I think fruit sugars are fine, but not too much at once (like pure fruit smoothies) and in moderation. Too much fruit can be bad for you.Do the sugars in all the fruits I eat promote inflammation as well? furkkk
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Originally Posted By Peleb⏩
How so? pls explain your reasoningIt doesn't matter at all srs, don't believe the hype, im srs
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Originally Posted By Peleb⏩
hmmm....but doesn't more sugar intake increase the risk of type 2 diabetes, obesity, cancer, etc?sugar intake doesn't matter, obviously take that with a grain of salt, don't eat 5kg of sugar a day, but there is no real benefit to keeping sugar so low.
And I eat a bowl of cereal in the morning which probably has between 25 to 30 grams of sugar total(cereal sugar + milk sugar), is that
bad? Am I putting myself at risk of diseases eating that much in the morning?
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I try and stay under 50 grams a day. Most of that comes from fruit.
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Ive heard it as 36 g NATURALLY occurring sugar. ZERO gramsaddedsugar. Refined/added sugar is pretty much a toxin
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Originally Posted By jimbone21⏩
Yeah m8, sugar is in everything. I buy sugar free ketchup and check the labels on dressings/sauces. ****sLooked at my wife's soy milk and saw it had 10 grams of sugar. I was about to make fun of her sugarmilk when I glanced at the kid's gallon of milk and saw it has 12g. Wtf?
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Originally Posted By pengh⏩
In some respects, yes, drinking the fully leadedcokeis better than drinking the same amount of beer but it all depends on how you choose to look at it. If at all possible and you have access to it, buy mexican made coke. They use ACTUAL sugar (cane sugar) rather than refined sugar (sugar that has all it's molasses removed so you need more sugar to get the same amount of sweetness)In the last month i developed a small addiction to Coke....... (in the bottle) Right around 8pm at night. feelsbad but I guess it's better than an 3 IPAs........ ****ing sugar taste so good lol
Originally Posted By AimForPeace⏩
1 molecule of caffeine will ALWAYS result in the production of 10,000 other stimulant hormones, some of which are adrenaline which is why caffeine is so effective (unless you take a beta blocker because its method of action is to block adrenaline production at low levels of activity)Damn that's bad lol. A bottle of coke has like 40 grams of sugar plus caffeine. All that at 8pm at night is gonna mess up your health and sleep too.
Originally Posted By pengh⏩
not equally, noDo the sugars in all the fruits I eat promote inflammation as well? furkkk
Originally Posted By AimForPeace⏩
Yes sugar increases the type 2 diabetes risks. Over time, high sugar (or simple carb intake) destroys the beta cells int he body. Beta cells are to secrete insulin and insulin is the key to open cells to allow nutrients inside. When we eat like chit, the beta cells are constantly working producing insulin and over time, the insulin they produce, becomes less and less sensitive and no longeropensthe cell up anymore so the nutrients can no longer enter the cell. And this is when Type 2 diabetes startshmmm....but doesn't more sugar intake increase the risk of type 2 diabetes, obesity, cancer, etc?
bad? Am I putting myself at risk of diseases eating that much in the morning?
bad? Am I putting myself at risk of diseases eating that much in the morning?
Weight bearing activity and IF are the best ways to help with insulin resistance and increasing your insulin sensitivity but it certainly doesnt mean that you can lift weights and do IF just so you can eat lucky charms all day
Originally Posted By Peleb⏩
This. Activity level, how much active muscle you have and your regular diet are probably the biggest factors. Some people probably get away with more than others thoughits a multivariate thing, family history, activity etc. Being active (lifting) helps blood sugar level alot. No, you're at no srs risk, i eat considerably over 100g of sugar a day
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Originally Posted By Peleb⏩
If i may ask, what is your professional background that backs up your reasoning behind this? I am by no means saying that you have to be a dietitian (because I am not one myself) to make this claim, but it sure helpslmao
Pls go. Just dont go absolutely stupid and you'll be fine, lol at people that watch their sugar intake. You'd have to go crazy and live a sedentary lifestyle to really goof
Pls go. Just dont go absolutely stupid and you'll be fine, lol at people that watch their sugar intake. You'd have to go crazy and live a sedentary lifestyle to really goof
Also, how old are you?
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Originally Posted By Peleb⏩
What I meant was (maybe i just wasnt clear), what is your reasoning for saying that (for example): you CAN go above 36g of added sugar per day (since you take in 100g). Are you basing this purely off anecdotal data and applying it to the entire population of people who are 75% overweight/obese (In the US at least) and are already insulin resistant?Its cool bro, people just unnecessarily panic over sugar intake in my opinion. No professional background, just general knowledge I've picked up over time. And I'm 28 but i was a sugar addict as a child (I'm perfectly healthy btw, always been active, no diabetes or any concerns). My grandmother has diabetes however
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08-13-2020, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted By Peleb⏩
Nothing like rampant sugar intake to keep the blood sugar stable, manage your appetite, avoid diabetes, inflamation, and to keep your teeth from rotting.sugar intake doesn't matter, obviously take that with a grain of salt, don't eat 5kg of sugar a day, but there is no real benefit to keeping sugar so low.
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Originally Posted By tank2003⏩
His source is that he is wincel on one of his many alts. His background is having 30+ red insect accounts, no avatars, friends in real life, or people who enjoy his opinion on message boards.If i may ask, what is your professional background that backs up your reasoning behind this? I am by no means saying that you have to be a dietitian (because I am not one myself) to make this claim, but it sure helps
Also, how old are you?
Also, how old are you?
08-13-2020, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted By Peleb⏩
Like anything "it depends". You don't need it and if you have a lot and often your gut bacteria adapts to that. Percentage of total calories makes sense.Its cool bro, people just unnecessarily panic over sugar intake in my opinion. No professional background, just general knowledge I've picked up over time. And I'm 28 but i was a sugar addict as a child (I'm perfectly healthy btw, always been active, no diabetes or any concerns). My grandmother has diabetes however
And I do think it matters if you are very active and adapted to burning through a lot of fuel. Random- I think someone who trains like a Tour rider or Olympic swimmer can likely eat a Snickers bar everyday no worries. They have the physical adaptations and activity level to burn it up so their body isn't overwhelmed with it and doesn't have to try and convert any of it to fat storage.
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Originally Posted By katya422⏩
lol @ needing to be a top level athlete in order to eat a snickers barLike anything "it depends". You don't need it and if you have a lot and often your gut bacteria adapts to that. Percentage of total calories makes sense.
And I do think it matters if you are very active and adapted to burning through a lot of fuel. Random- I think someone who trains like a Tour rider or Olympic swimmer can likely eat a Snickers bar everyday no worries. They have the physical adaptations and activity level to burn it up so their body isn't overwhelmed with it and doesn't have to try and convert any of it to fat storage.
And I do think it matters if you are very active and adapted to burning through a lot of fuel. Random- I think someone who trains like a Tour rider or Olympic swimmer can likely eat a Snickers bar everyday no worries. They have the physical adaptations and activity level to burn it up so their body isn't overwhelmed with it and doesn't have to try and convert any of it to fat storage.
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