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EOD is right about 2012 (SRS) Look at these videos from then.
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GDP became popular in 2012-2013 i think too. Porn now days is nothing like that 480 or even 720 chit we had in 2010-2011.Another theory (hear me out on this).
Porn.
Porn before 2012....was different. Sure there were a million online sites...but a lot of it was pay only (I remember dudes on here repping for Brazzers and Naughty America passwords, now we could care less).
Pornhub and Youporn xvideos etc were less popular and had mostly 240/480p lower resolution videos. All the HD nice content was on paysites or you had to be an internet expert to find or torrent it.
Around 2012...suddenly all the porn tube sites had HD clips from all the paysites free....no cost. Perfect HD quality...Porn suddenly became VERY high quality and very easy to access. Maybe the tech finally allowed it...but I'm not so sure on that....why did it become free all of a sudden?
I think this REALLY affected men and society more than people think. Serious.
Porn.
Porn before 2012....was different. Sure there were a million online sites...but a lot of it was pay only (I remember dudes on here repping for Brazzers and Naughty America passwords, now we could care less).
Pornhub and Youporn xvideos etc were less popular and had mostly 240/480p lower resolution videos. All the HD nice content was on paysites or you had to be an internet expert to find or torrent it.
Around 2012...suddenly all the porn tube sites had HD clips from all the paysites free....no cost. Perfect HD quality...Porn suddenly became VERY high quality and very easy to access. Maybe the tech finally allowed it...but I'm not so sure on that....why did it become free all of a sudden?
I think this REALLY affected men and society more than people think. Serious.
They just put the best videos out in the open now and they seem to be unlimited
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also 2012


two of the weirdest most evil mass shootings we have had...both in the same year...both...in 2012.


two of the weirdest most evil mass shootings we have had...both in the same year...both...in 2012.
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Good thread, here's what I think is (partly) the answer: attention and access.
Saying smartphones is the reason is the right path, but it goes a bit deeper. I remember watching that Miami Dolphins Vid as a younger lad, hnnnged hard... and that was it. Yes, they did the video to gain publicity but, most importantly, they did it for FUN. Uploading videos on utube was FUN. I watched tons of gaming channels back then, ppl weren't getting paid chit.
So what changed? Well, when people realized that the traditional "advertisement"... could be transformed into content. They realized that creating content -> attracted attention -> big brands will pay for EYES.
People started to get paid for blogging, youtube videos, and other online content. When there's money involved, what happens? Hyper competition. As "normal" content like
Saying smartphones is the reason is the right path, but it goes a bit deeper. I remember watching that Miami Dolphins Vid as a younger lad, hnnnged hard... and that was it. Yes, they did the video to gain publicity but, most importantly, they did it for FUN. Uploading videos on utube was FUN. I watched tons of gaming channels back then, ppl weren't getting paid chit.
So what changed? Well, when people realized that the traditional "advertisement"... could be transformed into content. They realized that creating content -> attracted attention -> big brands will pay for EYES.
People started to get paid for blogging, youtube videos, and other online content. When there's money involved, what happens? Hyper competition. As "normal" content like
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Damn, that Gangnam style vid just randomly put me in such a good mood haha. The crowd is HUGE, you can tell they're all having a blast

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Originally Posted By strawbrerry1⏩
"giraffes at the zoo" became the standard, creators learned they had to go more "extreme" to compete for attention. Clickbait started happening. Porn started becoming more circulated and available.Good thread, here's what I think is (partly) the answer: attention and access.
Saying smartphones is the reason is the right path, but it goes a bit deeper. I remember watching that Miami Dolphins Vid as a younger lad, hnnnged hard... and that was it. Yes, they did the video to gain publicity but, most importantly, they did it for FUN. Uploading videos on utube was FUN. I watched tons of gaming channels back then, ppl weren't getting paid chit.
So what changed? Well, when people realized that the traditional "advertisement"... could be transformed into content. They realized that creating content -> attracted attention -> big brands will pay for EYES.
People started to get paid for blogging, youtube videos, and other online content. When there's money involved, what happens? Hyper competition. As "normal" content like
Saying smartphones is the reason is the right path, but it goes a bit deeper. I remember watching that Miami Dolphins Vid as a younger lad, hnnnged hard... and that was it. Yes, they did the video to gain publicity but, most importantly, they did it for FUN. Uploading videos on utube was FUN. I watched tons of gaming channels back then, ppl weren't getting paid chit.
So what changed? Well, when people realized that the traditional "advertisement"... could be transformed into content. They realized that creating content -> attracted attention -> big brands will pay for EYES.
People started to get paid for blogging, youtube videos, and other online content. When there's money involved, what happens? Hyper competition. As "normal" content like
But let's take a step back. When you were a kid, what was your only chance of seeing a model in a bikini? A magazine or videotape. They were probably hard to come across. Your life was "siloed" in a sense, in that you only had access to things in your physical realm.
Now, with the Internet train at full speed, ANYTHING is available. You can learn any skill, in 5 seconds you can find your high school crush's bikini pics, your entertainment is now watching a streamer play a game rather than going to the court to shoot hoops. Now that everyone realizes the monetization possibilities, EVERYONE is competing for eyes and attention. And it's working.
People are constantly bombarded with content that is bigger, more extreme. It's cheap entertainment. That ******* mr.beast on utube gets MILLIONS of views on his vids, I would not be surprised if his audience is younger.
But more importantly, what emotions are people feeling when watching these videos? Of seeing fine-tuned, photoshopped pictures of "perfection"? Jealously, envy, hate, depression, the feeling of I'm not enough. Psychological indoctrination is real. You can think seeing/watching something doesn't change you but constant exposure changes your subconscious which in turn changes you as a person.
As for the PC stuff, I honestly believe people are just bored. They're like Edward Norton in Fight Club where he just hopes that his plane crashes just to feel something. On some level, this is similar. They want to feel a little destruction to feel alive. These ppl think they know oppression? I'm not too well versed in history, but current america doesn't seem oppressed to me.
And slooting? Attention and money. Victoria Secret catalogs ain't cutting it anymore (literally, they fookin stopped the VS fashion show). Again, availability and access. Any and all niches are available in different forms (goth, cosplay, swimsuit, milf, etc). Women sell their soul for "the bag" and men are docile, cooming away their physical life force and their deep subconscious is saying, "I don't have to be a better man to get women, they're already here!". They stall in life and become Peter Pans.
I could be wrong, but this is what I think.
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Originally Posted By strawbrerry1⏩
Everything you said is spot on. You need to post more."giraffes at the zoo" became the standard, creators learned they had to go more "extreme" to compete for attention. Clickbait started happening. Porn started becoming more circulated and available.
But let's take a step back. When you were a kid, what was your only chance of seeing a model in a bikini? A magazine or videotape. They were probably hard to come across. Your life was "siloed" in a sense, in that you only had access to things in your physical realm.
Now, with the Internet train at full speed, ANYTHING is available. You can learn any skill, in 5 seconds you can find your high school crush's bikini pics, your entertainment is now watching a streamer play a game rather than going to the court to shoot hoops. Now that everyone realizes the monetization possibilities, EVERYONE is competing for eyes and attention. And it's working.
People are constantly bombarded with content that is bigger, more extreme. It's cheap entertainment. That ******* mr.beast on utube gets MILLIONS of views on his vids, I would not be surprised if his audience is younger.
But more importantly, what emotions are people feeling when watching these videos? Of seeing fine-tuned, photoshopped pictures of "perfection"? Jealously, envy, hate, depression, the feeling of I'm not enough. Psychological indoctrination is real. You can think seeing/watching something doesn't change you but constant exposure changes your subconscious which in turn changes you as a person.
As for the PC stuff, I honestly believe people are just bored. They're like Edward Norton in Fight Club where he just hopes that his plane crashes just to feel something. On some level, this is similar. They want to feel a little destruction to feel alive. These ppl think they know oppression? I'm not too well versed in history, but current america doesn't seem oppressed to me.
And slooting? Attention and money. Victoria Secret catalogs ain't cutting it anymore (literally, they fookin stopped the VS fashion show). Again, availability and access. Any and all niches are available in different forms (goth, cosplay, swimsuit, milf, etc). Women sell their soul for "the bag" and men are docile, cooming away their physical life force and their deep subconscious is saying, "I don't have to be a better man to get women, they're already here!". They stall in life and become Peter Pans.
I could be wrong, but this is what I think.
But let's take a step back. When you were a kid, what was your only chance of seeing a model in a bikini? A magazine or videotape. They were probably hard to come across. Your life was "siloed" in a sense, in that you only had access to things in your physical realm.
Now, with the Internet train at full speed, ANYTHING is available. You can learn any skill, in 5 seconds you can find your high school crush's bikini pics, your entertainment is now watching a streamer play a game rather than going to the court to shoot hoops. Now that everyone realizes the monetization possibilities, EVERYONE is competing for eyes and attention. And it's working.
People are constantly bombarded with content that is bigger, more extreme. It's cheap entertainment. That ******* mr.beast on utube gets MILLIONS of views on his vids, I would not be surprised if his audience is younger.
But more importantly, what emotions are people feeling when watching these videos? Of seeing fine-tuned, photoshopped pictures of "perfection"? Jealously, envy, hate, depression, the feeling of I'm not enough. Psychological indoctrination is real. You can think seeing/watching something doesn't change you but constant exposure changes your subconscious which in turn changes you as a person.
As for the PC stuff, I honestly believe people are just bored. They're like Edward Norton in Fight Club where he just hopes that his plane crashes just to feel something. On some level, this is similar. They want to feel a little destruction to feel alive. These ppl think they know oppression? I'm not too well versed in history, but current america doesn't seem oppressed to me.
And slooting? Attention and money. Victoria Secret catalogs ain't cutting it anymore (literally, they fookin stopped the VS fashion show). Again, availability and access. Any and all niches are available in different forms (goth, cosplay, swimsuit, milf, etc). Women sell their soul for "the bag" and men are docile, cooming away their physical life force and their deep subconscious is saying, "I don't have to be a better man to get women, they're already here!". They stall in life and become Peter Pans.
I could be wrong, but this is what I think.
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BS. I lost my job in 2012 and I was sad as fucc
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Originally Posted By strawbrerry1⏩
great post. repped"giraffes at the zoo" became the standard, creators learned they had to go more "extreme" to compete for attention. Clickbait started happening. Porn started becoming more circulated and available.
But let's take a step back. When you were a kid, what was your only chance of seeing a model in a bikini? A magazine or videotape. They were probably hard to come across. Your life was "siloed" in a sense, in that you only had access to things in your physical realm.
Now, with the Internet train at full speed, ANYTHING is available. You can learn any skill, in 5 seconds you can find your high school crush's bikini pics, your entertainment is now watching a streamer play a game rather than going to the court to shoot hoops. Now that everyone realizes the monetization possibilities, EVERYONE is competing for eyes and attention. And it's working.
People are constantly bombarded with content that is bigger, more extreme. It's cheap entertainment. That ******* mr.beast on utube gets MILLIONS of views on his vids, I would not be surprised if his audience is younger.
But more importantly, what emotions are people feeling when watching these videos? Of seeing fine-tuned, photoshopped pictures of "perfection"? Jealously, envy, hate, depression, the feeling of I'm not enough. Psychological indoctrination is real. You can think seeing/watching something doesn't change you but constant exposure changes your subconscious which in turn changes you as a person.
As for the PC stuff, I honestly believe people are just bored. They're like Edward Norton in Fight Club where he just hopes that his plane crashes just to feel something. On some level, this is similar. They want to feel a little destruction to feel alive. These ppl think they know oppression? I'm not too well versed in history, but current america doesn't seem oppressed to me.
And slooting? Attention and money. Victoria Secret catalogs ain't cutting it anymore (literally, they fookin stopped the VS fashion show). Again, availability and access. Any and all niches are available in different forms (goth, cosplay, swimsuit, milf, etc). Women sell their soul for "the bag" and men are docile, cooming away their physical life force and their deep subconscious is saying, "I don't have to be a better man to get women, they're already here!". They stall in life and become Peter Pans.
I could be wrong, but this is what I think.
But let's take a step back. When you were a kid, what was your only chance of seeing a model in a bikini? A magazine or videotape. They were probably hard to come across. Your life was "siloed" in a sense, in that you only had access to things in your physical realm.
Now, with the Internet train at full speed, ANYTHING is available. You can learn any skill, in 5 seconds you can find your high school crush's bikini pics, your entertainment is now watching a streamer play a game rather than going to the court to shoot hoops. Now that everyone realizes the monetization possibilities, EVERYONE is competing for eyes and attention. And it's working.
People are constantly bombarded with content that is bigger, more extreme. It's cheap entertainment. That ******* mr.beast on utube gets MILLIONS of views on his vids, I would not be surprised if his audience is younger.
But more importantly, what emotions are people feeling when watching these videos? Of seeing fine-tuned, photoshopped pictures of "perfection"? Jealously, envy, hate, depression, the feeling of I'm not enough. Psychological indoctrination is real. You can think seeing/watching something doesn't change you but constant exposure changes your subconscious which in turn changes you as a person.
As for the PC stuff, I honestly believe people are just bored. They're like Edward Norton in Fight Club where he just hopes that his plane crashes just to feel something. On some level, this is similar. They want to feel a little destruction to feel alive. These ppl think they know oppression? I'm not too well versed in history, but current america doesn't seem oppressed to me.
And slooting? Attention and money. Victoria Secret catalogs ain't cutting it anymore (literally, they fookin stopped the VS fashion show). Again, availability and access. Any and all niches are available in different forms (goth, cosplay, swimsuit, milf, etc). Women sell their soul for "the bag" and men are docile, cooming away their physical life force and their deep subconscious is saying, "I don't have to be a better man to get women, they're already here!". They stall in life and become Peter Pans.
I could be wrong, but this is what I think.
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I think EOD is biased by his blackpill a lot of the time, but he's right about this. I'm probably happier/more well adjusted than 90% of miscers but the world was a happier place back then. Before social tensions were palpable to your average normie. No one had heard about Covid or even imagined the government could just put them out of work. Music festivals were at their peak, Tinder was at its peak. You could say this is just getting old but, all of my siblings are younger and I'm only 24. I know a bunch of Zoomers and they're a much more depressed generation than we were. This is not even just the incels, this is the cool dudes and the hot girls. Look at youth suicide rates. sad to think about
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Originally Posted By AriesTH⏩
i randomly came across it on youtube and I was like "wow..look how happy everyone is...its like a different world then"...then i looked at the date....2012....and it hit me like a ton of bricks. EOD is right. There must be 1 million people in that crowd (srs)Damn, that Gangnam style vid just randomly put me in such a good mood haha. The crowd is HUGE, you can tell they're all having a blast

People are going to look back on 2012 decades from now as some sort of paradigm shift in society. not even joking.
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Originally Posted By eod8989⏩
2012 was when Trayvon Martin was killed at the Marxist Racist BLM propagandist group began. Right after that was when lefties woke up every morning thinking about things to get offended over and start a hashtag to gain traction. Also when the definition of gender changed to being how you "feel" and more connected to personality than biological sex. People then were able to identify as whatever the fuk they wantedIdk i've been talking to people about this and researching it for years but can't figure it out. I think 2011 was the last normal year or whatever, 2012 felt different for sure, and then after that it's like things have been completely different and changing rapidly ever since. The music was so peaceful in 2011. I remember these songs and the EDM and EDM influenced pop music topping the charts. People still had flip phones.
If that Call Me Maybe song doesn't give you major nostalgia compared to what is released now i don't know what to say. These were happy vibes. I don't even remember meeting a depressed/angry person back then either. Everyone was happy af.
If that Call Me Maybe song doesn't give you major nostalgia compared to what is released now i don't know what to say. These were happy vibes. I don't even remember meeting a depressed/angry person back then either. Everyone was happy af.
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Originally Posted By tank2003⏩
zim bada bing could have been my son2012 was when Trayvon Martin was killed at the Marxist Racist BLM propagandist group began. Right after that was when lefties woke up every morning thinking about things to get offended over and start a hashtag to gain traction. Also when the definition of gender changed to being how you "feel" and more connected to personality than biological sex. People then were able to identify as whatever the fuk they wanted
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Social media, Tinder + tinder-like apps and overcomsumption of porn really fuks people up, without them even knowing.
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Originally Posted By tank2003⏩
o chit....was that 2012....holy eff2012 was when Trayvon Martin was killed at the Marxist Racist BLM propagandist group began. Right after that was when lefties woke up every morning thinking about things to get offended over and start a hashtag to gain traction. Also when the definition of gender changed to being how you "feel" and more connected to personality than biological sex. People then were able to identify as whatever the fuk they wanted
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I had friends in 2012
Drank a lot
Used our cell phones for music mostly
Kicked it tough
Chit sucks now, I’m done
Drank a lot
Used our cell phones for music mostly
Kicked it tough
Chit sucks now, I’m done
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Blm supporters and Eod have the same thing in common.
Both believe they are victims.
Neither can figure out how to solve their problems, so they think the answer must be some boogeyman is preventing them from being successful.
At least POC ancestors were legitimately disenfranchised in the past. Eod is just flat out retard retarded to believe this ****.
Dude needs an education. Quit working dead end jobs and your most meaningful relationships is some faaggot on Reddit.
5 more years of this lifestyle and youre going to want to blow your own head off and theres no one to blame but yourself.
Both believe they are victims.
Neither can figure out how to solve their problems, so they think the answer must be some boogeyman is preventing them from being successful.
At least POC ancestors were legitimately disenfranchised in the past. Eod is just flat out retard retarded to believe this ****.
Dude needs an education. Quit working dead end jobs and your most meaningful relationships is some faaggot on Reddit.
5 more years of this lifestyle and youre going to want to blow your own head off and theres no one to blame but yourself.
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Originally Posted By Masterchieffer⏩
what about me:Blm supporters and Eod have the same thing in common.
Both believe they are victims.
Neither can figure out how to solve their problems, so they think the answer must be some boogeyman is preventing them from being successful.
At least POC ancestors were legitimately disenfranchised in the past. Eod is just flat out retard retarded to believe this ****.
Dude needs an education. Quit working dead end jobs and your most meaningful relationships is some faaggot on Reddit.
5 more years of this lifestyle and youre going to want to blow your own head off and theres no one to blame but yourself.
Both believe they are victims.
Neither can figure out how to solve their problems, so they think the answer must be some boogeyman is preventing them from being successful.
At least POC ancestors were legitimately disenfranchised in the past. Eod is just flat out retard retarded to believe this ****.
Dude needs an education. Quit working dead end jobs and your most meaningful relationships is some faaggot on Reddit.
5 more years of this lifestyle and youre going to want to blow your own head off and theres no one to blame but yourself.
I have a top education, have worked top jobs with high salaries since 2012, have a meaningful relationship.....and I may believe in the 2012 theory more than he does.
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Originally Posted By climberbrah⏩
Youre full of ****. Every generation feels the years that they were coming of age were the "best years" and every year the world feels a little more like its falling apart. 5 years from now a stupid zoomer is going to be making the same thread. Just like in 2012 people were making the same thread. Its natural for people to resist change... not a hard concept to grasp yet here we are.what about me:
I have a top education, have worked top jobs with high salaries since 2012, have a meaningful relationship.....and I may believe in the 2012 theory more than he does.
I have a top education, have worked top jobs with high salaries since 2012, have a meaningful relationship.....and I may believe in the 2012 theory more than he does.
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Originally Posted By Masterchieffer⏩
Explain higher suicide rates among zoomersYoure full of ****. Every generation feels the years that they were coming of age were the "best years" and every year the world feels a little more like its falling apart. 5 years from now a stupid zoomer is going to be making the same thread. Just like in 2012 people were making the same thread. Its natural for people to resist change... not a hard concept to grasp yet here we are.
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Originally Posted By Masterchieffer⏩
i came of age well before 2012 - and was still pretty young around 2012. I felt like things were changing negatively then....and i was in the prime part of my 20s then.Youre full of ****. Every generation feels the years that they were coming of age were the "best years" and every year the world feels a little more like its falling apart. 5 years from now a stupid zoomer is going to be making the same thread. Just like in 2012 people were making the same thread. Its natural for people to resist change... not a hard concept to grasp yet here we are.
do this, post some video of the past two years of people being carefree and happy in massive groups with song/movements that everyone had fun with and was popular. it doesnt exist anymore.
08-15-2020, 02:23 AM
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What are you on about OP? 2020 has been wonderful so far!
also this:
also this:
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more from 2011-2012
everyone is happy. ill be first to admit, not a huge pop guy, but i cant deny these are catchy and make me smile/laugh
2020
totally different energy...everyone is depressed and coping now. seriously this video is horrifying. what happened? its like everyone is just doing something to get a 10 second dance clip to trend on tik tok now. nothing else. honestly weird.
everyone is happy. ill be first to admit, not a huge pop guy, but i cant deny these are catchy and make me smile/laugh
2020
totally different energy...everyone is depressed and coping now. seriously this video is horrifying. what happened? its like everyone is just doing something to get a 10 second dance clip to trend on tik tok now. nothing else. honestly weird.
08-15-2020, 02:44 AM
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Originally Posted By deaglebrah⏩
So fuking true broI believe that it is because social media has conditioned people into a primitive hive mind which is inherently cynical. I have definitely noticed a paradigm shift of people being not only less happy, but also desensitized to almost every stimulus
08-15-2020, 03:06 AM
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Originally Posted By climberbrah⏩
Looks terrible no thx bro.Look how happy people were then. All of this was in 2012 ( the call me maybe video was uploaded Jan 2013, but filmed 2012)
Was 2012 the last year people were truly happy and having authentic fun?
Look at videos below - no one has this much fun anymore. No positivity like this has existed for awhile.
(if you got a crowd this big now it'd be for a BLM protest only)
Edit..like to point out how hot Nikki Minaj was then too...but look how happy everyone is...would never see this in 2020
Look at this crowd!
Seems like everything became so much more socially divided since then. Last year before Tinder, Instagram, full out smart phone usage by society. Democratic agenda became much more woke after 2012. Suddenly open borders were a thing being rationally argued for. Many millenials started to get very jaded around then too as their careers were stalling from starting in a massive global financial crisis. I remember being really happy in 2012 and everything since has seemed so serious.
What happened after 2012? 100% serious. Didn't something with the CERN Hadron Collider happen in 2012 (please confirm EOD). Was it Obama's reelection? Please help me misc.
Was 2012 the last year people were truly happy and having authentic fun?
Look at videos below - no one has this much fun anymore. No positivity like this has existed for awhile.
(if you got a crowd this big now it'd be for a BLM protest only)
Edit..like to point out how hot Nikki Minaj was then too...but look how happy everyone is...would never see this in 2020
Look at this crowd!
Seems like everything became so much more socially divided since then. Last year before Tinder, Instagram, full out smart phone usage by society. Democratic agenda became much more woke after 2012. Suddenly open borders were a thing being rationally argued for. Many millenials started to get very jaded around then too as their careers were stalling from starting in a massive global financial crisis. I remember being really happy in 2012 and everything since has seemed so serious.
What happened after 2012? 100% serious. Didn't something with the CERN Hadron Collider happen in 2012 (please confirm EOD). Was it Obama's reelection? Please help me misc.
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