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post 1614793621 08-27-2020, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted By Nocturnal310⏩
couples going for a walk outside their waterfront condos are getting robbed by blm teens.

a man walking his dog in LIC got shot last month and died this week. his family said they are leaving nyc.

waterfront LIC has hired private security guards to patrol at night btw. people dont feel safe at all anymore.


Yup..NYC is dead and it doesnt even know it yet. atleast for next few years.
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NYC 10 years from now

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Originally Posted By Nocturnal310⏩
couples going for a walk outside their waterfront condos are getting robbed by blm teens.

a man walking his dog in LIC .got shot last month and died this week. his family said they are leaving nyc. long island city where AOC fought to not allow amazon...would ve have been much safer

waterfront LIC has hired private security guards to patrol at night btw. people dont feel safe at all anymore.


Yup..NYC is dead and it doesnt even know it yet. atleast for next few years.
Feels batman, was a great city up until March. LIC and Brooklyn getting destroyed by random crimes.

Some 40 yr old woman jogging at 6 AM in Williamsburg which is super expensive, got paralyzed from a homeless guy attacking her last week.
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Work from home plus trying to tax the rich to make up for the coronavirus economic damage will hurt NYC in the short term. However I think we see NYC bounce back in 5 years once the amenities are back in place.NYC is unique. Anyone who thinks that young people will live in the suburbs is nuts. Urbanization is a growing trend and young people love cities. You'll just a see a migration to affordable cities or " value cities". I expect Texas to dominate, Florida and NC to do well, and West LA and San Diego to be fine. The bay area will be annihilated though.
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Originally Posted By ajctennis⏩
Work from home plus trying to tax the rich to make up for the coronavirus economic damage will hurt NYC in the short term. However I think we see NYC bounce back in 5 years once the amenities are back in place.NYC is unique. Anyone who thinks that young people will live in the suburbs is nuts. Urbanization is a growing trend and young people love cities. You'll just a see a migration to affordable cities or " value cities". I expect Texas to dominate, Florida and NC to do well, and West LA and San Diego to be fine. The bay area will be annihilated though.
don't forget to include seattle with the bay area
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People assuming NYC will return to its former glory like Detroit wasn't the third most important and prosperous city in America once upon a time. Constantinople (Istanbul) was once the most important city in the entire world. Now it's not even the most important city in Turkey.

Look at Rome lol. Officially it's Italy's capital but everyone knows Milan is the real seat of power in Italy. Rome was once the world's seat of power. Now it's old buildings and beggars from Romania.

Things change and things move on. Nothing is forever. NYC is no different. The main worry is how the people voted in Di Blasio in the first place. If they vote for him again after everything, NYC is dead because that'll be proof New Yorkers don't even have the desire to save the city.
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Jerry Seinfeld recently wrote an opinion piece in the NY Times on how great NYC is and that it will come back. The comments from the NY'ers about how great it is, its number one, blah, blah.

This puffery is coming from a man whom is worth almost a $1B and lives out on a giant estate on East Hampton that he paid $32M for years ago.

I just have one question - if NYC is so great than how come you live out on East Hampton?

I worked on/off in NYC for years and was never impressed with it. Its dirty, congested and expensive. People talk about all the things you can do - all I can say is so what. I really enjoy paying $20 for a glass of wine. Thanks but I will pass which is why I live 30 miles outside the city where its quasi-rural. I will take cows and chickens over the virus and rioters any day.

Many people have compared this to 9/11. Its not the same this time. After 9/11 the city wasnt boarded up and the residents werent fleeing to other states. DeBlasio said the other day that indoor dining will not be allowed to next year. Many restaurants are already never coming back, that was the nail in the coffin.

Many companies are going to abandon their real estate, mark my words. It has dawned on ALL companies that people can work remotely, why do they need to be in the office? YOU DONT. People in technology knew this years ago and many have telecommuted for years already, its now hitting everyone else. There is no need to pay rent or own expensive real estate and get plowed by the city on taxes.

I read an article from an investment banker whom moved his family to AZ when it started. They moved temporarily and than bought a house. He said they are never coming back. He said all my work is on the computer, all my meetings are via teleconference what do I need NYC for?
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Manhattan will bounce back.

The other boroughs are going to deteriorate like Detroit.
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Originally Posted By mvitz⏩
Jerry Seinfeld recently wrote an opinion piece in the NY Times on how great NYC is and that it will come back. The comments from the NY'ers about how great it is, its number one, blah, blah.

This puffery is coming from a man whom is worth almost a $1B and lives out on a giant estate on East Hampton that he paid $32M for years ago.

I just have one question - if NYC is so great than how come you live out on East Hampton?

I worked on/off in NYC for years and was never impressed with it. Its dirty, congested and expensive. People talk about all the things you can do - all I can say is so what. I really enjoy paying $20 for a glass of wine. Thanks but I will pass which is why I live 30 miles outside the city where its quasi-rural. I will take cows and chickens over the virus and rioters any day.

Many people have compared this to 9/11. Its not the same this time. After 9/11 the city wasnt boarded up and the residents werent fleeing to other states. DeBlasio said the other day that indoor dining will not be allowed to next year. Many restaurants are already never coming back, that was the nail in the coffin.

Many companies are going to abandon their real estate, mark my words. It has dawned on ALL companies that people can work remotely, why do they need to be in the office? YOU DONT. People in technology knew this years ago and many have telecommuted for years already, its now hitting everyone else. There is no need to pay rent or own expensive real estate and get plowed by the city on taxes.

I read an article from an investment banker whom moved his family to AZ when it started. They moved temporarily and than bought a house. He said they are never coming back. He said all my work is on the computer, all my meetings are via teleconference what do I need NYC for?
Seinfield hasnt experienced life as a commoner since the 1980s, he has no idea what he is talking about. He hasnt walked the streets of NYC alone, without a security detail and without being chauffeured in blacked out luxury cars in 4 decades. Hes completely out of touch with the day to day life of the average person.
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Originally Posted By ajctennis⏩
Work from home plus trying to tax the rich to make up for the coronavirus economic damage will hurt NYC in the short term. However I think we see NYC bounce back in 5 years once the amenities are back in place.NYC is unique. Anyone who thinks that young people will live in the suburbs is nuts. Urbanization is a growing trend and young people love cities. You'll just a see a migration to affordable cities or " value cities". I expect Texas to dominate, Florida and NC to do well, and West LA and San Diego to be fine. The bay area will be annihilated though.
no offense but every city in the US is nowhere near as unique as NYC. It’s the only city that you don’t need a car to live in (unless you live in southern brooklyn or eastern queens) and the amount of culture it has trumpe every other city

And compared to other cities it’s actually the least liberal
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My bet is they will push all the homeless and trash to the other boroughs and clean Manhattan. Then claim "look look NYC is fine" for the tourists
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Originally Posted By spazzin⏩
no offense but every city in the US is nowhere near as unique as NYC. It’s the only city that you don’t need a car to live in (unless you live in southern brooklyn or eastern queens) and the amount of culture it has trumpe every other city

And compared to other cities it’s actually the least liberal
Even before the pandemic, the second tier cities were on the rise. Im a former New Yorker who moved to Fl . I saw those northern cities die while the southern cities grew. This is what happens when you let the communist takeover New York y’all voted for him Hope you enjoy the show
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Originally Posted By Clockbro⏩
NYC was fine after 9/11

NYC will bounce back after this

LOL at people who don't realize just how bad the city was back in the 80's thinking this is the worst
I'm old and was thinking the same thing. NYC was dangerous in the 80's. Crime, assaults, and murders were much higher.
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It'll take a long time before NYC recovers. The problem with people here is that even if they see Democratic leaders destroy the city, they will still not vote for a Republican out of principle or even a moderate Democrat for that matter.
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Originally Posted By OffwhiteBrah⏩
Even before the pandemic, the second tier cities were on the rise. Im a former New Yorker who moved to Fl . I saw those northern cities die while the southern cities grew. This is what happens when you let the communist takeover New York y’all voted for him Hope you enjoy the show
which southern cities have as many hbbs as nyc? there’s also way more women than men in nyc

which southern cities aren’t humid af?

which southern cities pay as much in terms of salary as nyc? i got a 58k bump in salary going from a southern city to nyc, rent is 16.8k more a year but i still easily come out on top

which southern cities can u walk or take a subway to get anywhere?
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Originally Posted By GrimRep_er⏩
I'm old and was thinking the same thing. NYC was dangerous in the 80's. Crime, assaults, and murders were much higher.
yep it was way worse in the 70s and 80s. Notice all the people who want it to fail are too broke to live here or moved out during the pandemic and want to see it fail so they feel they made the right decision
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Originally Posted By spazzin⏩
which southern cities have as many hbbs as nyc? there’s also way more women than men in nyc

which southern cities aren’t humid af?

which southern cities pay as much in terms of salary as nyc? i got a 58k bump in salary going from a southern city to nyc, rent is 16.8k more a year but i still easily come out on top

which southern cities can u walk or take a subway to get anywhere?
Enjoy getting ripped off on rent , crime in the big cities is an understatement. People going around randomly shooting people in the head. Small mobs approaching individuals and beating them to death with axe handles. Not miring that brah i'll enjoy my meh pay , humidity , less hbb's and i've never depended on the disease filled mta system even when i lived there.
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Originally Posted By OffwhiteBrah⏩
Enjoy getting ripped off on rent , crime in the big cities is an understatement. People going around randomly shooting people in the head. Small mobs approaching individuals and beating them to death with axe handles. Not miring that brah i'll enjoy my meh pay , humidity , less hbb's and i've never depended on the disease filled mta system even when i lived there.
Honestly you sound bitter bro. Maybe moving to Florida was too boring for you?

I live in NY and I switch over to LA during the winter. I still think it's awesome here and only a matter of time before we bounce back.
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Originally Posted By Tomohokk⏩
Honestly you sound bitter bro. Maybe moving to Florida was too boring for you?

I live in NY and I switch over to LA during the winter. I still think it's awesome here and only a matter of time before we bounce back.
Nah man i love it out here, huge ass house with a family trumps anything i could've ever afforded there. It's been 10 years already and would make the same decision if i had the chance today.
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Originally Posted By OffwhiteBrah⏩
Nah man i love it out here, huge ass house with a family trumps anything i could've ever afforded there. It's been 10 years already and would make the same decision if i had the chance today.
I have a house in Florida also bro

But I think if you're struggling in NY it isn't the place to be, but if you stick with it, and consciously make your life better / think positively, you can bust through and really enjoy it. Dreams get made here bruh
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Stay safe my NYC brahs.

Never been to NYC, no desire to do so. I'll stay here in my igloo.
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How many people live in NYC because they like NYC and how many people deal with NYC because there's a paycheck there. If even 10% of the population has the disaffection and the means to move out of the city post Covid, that's an exodus literally bigger than the city of Philly.

What people seem to want is mid-sized cities located somewhere close to nature, and I think that will be exacerbated with a couple million new remote workers able to live anywhere. Would you want to live in NYC or the Bay if you had the choice, or Omaha, or say Denver or Charlotte/Asheville? Real estate in those areas was already going psychotic and it's going to get worse - legit, the only reason I think remote workers would go BACK to a big city is if COL is LOWER than their new beach or mountain town. They won't even move back if it's close to a push.
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Originally Posted By FA*******⏩
How many people live in NYC because they like NYC and how many people deal with NYC because there's a paycheck there.
If you're struggling and you're living in a tiny, old, broken down apartment then it sucks. But if you learn to be grateful, stay humble, work hard, and eventually grind yourself up to a nice place. It really is an enjoyable place to live and still is IMO. People who have a strong inner game can live anywhere and nothing can touch them, because it doesn't matter about the place or circumstances. You realize that it was all aboutyou
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Originally Posted By Tomohokk⏩
I have a house in Florida also bro

But I think if you're struggling in NY it isn't the place to be, but if you stick with it, and consciously make your life better / think positively, you can bust through and really enjoy it. Dreams get made here bruh
I couldn't agree more man but that wasn't my end goal. Always wanted to leave for warmer weather and eventually to a beach town close to the west coast of FL . Since leaving my quality of life has considerably improved so it all depends solely on everyone's goals and wants. If i was making great money i'd still eventually would've left. Nothing was going to keep me back in the city that i had spent all my childhood in.
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Originally Posted By Tomohokk⏩
If you're struggling and you're living in a tiny, old, broken down apartment then it sucks. But if you learn to be grateful, stay humble, work hard, and eventually grind yourself up to a nice place. It really is an enjoyable place to live and still is IMO. People who have a strong inner game can live anywhere and nothing can touch them, because it doesn't matter about the place or circumstances. You realize that it was all aboutyou
Forget the inner game stuff. If you couldchoose- not survive, choose - to live anywhere in the US and draw a full NYC salary, would you choose to live in New York? Cause that's the situation we're now dealing with.
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Originally Posted By FA*******⏩
Forget the inner game stuff. If you couldchoose- not survive, choose - to live anywhere in the US and draw a full NYC salary, would you choose to live in New York? Cause that's the situation we're now dealing with.
Yes, I love the energy here. Everywhere else is too boring. And there's something about NYC during the fall with its big beautiful buildings and historical landmarks - plus HBBs walking around all day err day helps too
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I couldn't agree more man but that wasn't my end goal. Always wanted to leave for warmer weather and eventually to a beach town close to the west coast of FL . Since leaving my quality of life has considerably improved so it all depends solely on everyone's goals and wants. If i was making great money i'd still eventually would've left. Nothing was going to keep me back in the city that i had spent all my childhood in.
Yeah it's not for everyone, and def hard to raise a family here. So I get you bro. But for a young single guy with their own place I think it's a great place to be.
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Originally Posted By brightbrah⏩
Mid-size cities in general are seeing an explosion in population growth even before recent events. Orlando, Columbus, Indianapolis, Austin, Charlotte, Raleigh, Pittsburgh, etc

NYC will eventually make a comeback(it is the financial capital of the world, after all) but it will require tourism to return to normal levels. Didn't watch the video because I don't like giving views to those types of youtubers
Could be 10 years. Or more. Or never.
Originally Posted By brightbrah⏩
lol same here in Columbus brah (I see a lot of Texas and Illinois plates as well)

edit: Reminds me of a time some guy asked me something at a coffee shop, then proceeded to ask where my accent was from. I told him I was from here, and he was surprised. He told me he was from another country (Dominican Republic I believe) but grew up in NY
I've considered Columbus.
Originally Posted By jamalfudge⏩
Wuhan was the next planned world financial capital, srs.
Source?
Originally Posted By OffwhiteBrah⏩
But it wasn't his article, he was reading it from a prominent NY'er who's been around the city all his life and saying it's finally dead ,covid/remote working and politics did it in
^^^
This.
Originally Posted By TaeBoNinja⏩
People saying NY will bounce back don't understand the problem. NY revolves around business and both the move to remote work, and the crazy policies being pushed by the likes of DeBlasio and AOC, have gutted the infrastructure of the city, and it's crumbling.

Detroit was an iconic city...until it wasn't.NY is heading in that direction. Can anyone even name reasons for people to move there now?
Lived in the area. It is crazy to think how much happened in Detroit when you see it now.
Originally Posted By YoungMetro24⏩
Buy the dip.
If you can stand the risk and have plenty of time.
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Introspective day for me I guess.

My first husband (opera singer) had dreams of living in NYC and making it there. He ended up overseas instead. And I always thought I would at least visit; maybe take my daughter around Christmas and see the store windows and Rockefeller Center.

Drove through Las Colinas the day before last and it looked worn and vacant which felt strange since I remember when it was the new hot development for business and the building were all shiny and new.

WFH is a change I don't think will be reversed by the majority of companies.
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