Atleast there is someone not retarded in here.

My only point before trying to explain the scale of the EM spectrum to that reject is:

1. Planning for 5G started roughly 10 years ago give or take
2. Infrastructure cost is roughly $2.7 trillion globally for 5g
3. zero money allocated for research on the affects on the human body
4. primary assumption is that the only effect would be thermal effects

5. it would be prudent to atleast have done some studies specific to 5g, we could have had 5 years of data on mice at this point for practically free when compared to the $2.7 trillion being spent

6. I think telecoms prefer to have no research, especially funded by themselves because any ill effects discovered could be used against them in lawsuits in the future. Any actual ill effects from 5g will be blamed on other causes if there is no data to prove it. Now that we are going through with 5g, If something massive goes wrong, they know they are "too big to fail" and could twist politicians into providing blanket immunity laws. If we did research before building infrastructure and they found something, it could set them back years and billions of dollars. They are looking at it from a "better to ask for forgiveness than permission" strategy.

7. The sweat duct thing is just an example of an effect on the human body nobody would have expected, found during a random small scale study on EMR. Its sandwiched in-between frequencies that we already experience from 5g and airport scanners. This means there could be other effects we do not know about, they could be minor, they could be serious, we just do not know.

8. Telecoms certainly dont have people's health at their best interest. They would rather not take on the risk of finding something that could setback their expansion into the next gen network.

It's official—CIA has corruptee bid with Air Force.

Look at this cuckle suckling. Not surprised—as they both face imminent dangers in crooked reconnaissance missions that they do.

And request money for new gear in said missions, then swordfish those dividends, and use gear they already have.

Very often, they get busted, and shot down; and thus the break point begins to develop in their psyche.

Turds of a feather must stick together.

It's for survival—and makes life thrive.

Even though it threatens everyone else's survival (and their own truly) and threatens the sanctity of the social environment.

people are having kids later on in life too which increases the odds by a lot

This topic entertains me greatly.

I laugh and laugh and laugh at the literally insane conclusions people jump to (WiFi operates on 2.4GHz, Microwaves operate on 2.4GHz, conclusion: U gon' get cooked) it's endlessly hilarious until you realize some portion of the low IQ individuals out there will believe this. Then these low IQ individuals start burning down 5G towers and destroying chit because they saw a Youtube video from someone living in a log cabin in the middle of Montana who did a couple of hours of research about radio waves / microwaves / WiFi / 5G. That's the scary part.

Unfortuatnly it IS a complex topic involving electrical engineering, RF engineering, and physics, that takes a lot of time and a lot of complexity to explain...... but if trying to explain to the average person who knows next to nothing is a pointless and ultimately frustrating endeavor.

Reasonable people should be able to understand when you explain to them why their assumptions are wrong, but they don't want to be corrected and will keep moving the goal posts to keep their premise on life support.

Anyone that is reasonable would have simply read about how the energy of an rf wave is conserved and concluded that if no energy is being expelled through an unobserved means, then there's not an unaccounted for interaction. That's just simple energy budget stuff.

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bro it got retracted !! other links?

1) okay - has nothing to do with health

2) okay - has nothing to do with health

3) conjecture

4) conjecture

5) opinion

6) opinion

7) why do you keep parroting that this is between current 5G and Airport Scanners? Where are you getting your numbers from? You posted a study for frequencies of 200+ GHz. 5G wavelengths in telecom is 28 GHz for Verizon and 39 GHz for AT&T. I believe T-Mobile went the opposite direction and used a lower frequency for their 5G and I'm not sure about sprint. Then we get to airport scanners, which based on a google search operate at 24-30GHz. So again, how the fuk does your paper about direct exposure to frequencies magnitudes higher than anything being discussed or installed for 5G apply to anything dealing with 5G?

8) opinion/conjecture.

And all of that yet we still havent even delved into the fact that this is non-iodizing radiation and a multitude of other variables.

This is a thread about 5G. If you want to talk about large scale, ultra high frequency radiation, start your own thread about it.

Read took books on emf this year. Life changing. Telecom industry is the new big tobacco. Check out get lambs. They sell emf blocking’s clothes. I own a few of their products

Half my classes for my bachelor degree were phsyics/electrical engineering

But I only mention that to maybe get thru to the mentally * posting in this thread

College was a fkin joke wasted 4 years of my life srs. So retarded

And I don't get why normal people here are questioning "hold on is this safe, where are the studies" and there's like 10 people all hostile going "LOL ARE U STUPID, ANTENNA CONCENTRATE ENERFY, STAR TREK SCI FI SENTENCES THAT DONT MAKE SENSE"

Like this is a common sense conclusion and people come here saying lol r u retarded nobody smart than me told me to worry so I won't worry r u retarded dude??

if half your classes were ee and you never figured out flux concentration (gain) is relative to area then, yeah, it was a waste for you.

fukn lmao, emf blocking clothes huh.. that's doing you a lot of good -- for sure didn't buy into a scam and waste your money.

did u watch the second video where they heat people up like bugs with the humer/humvee mounted death ray looking thing?

Any Hams in here? KN6Q

CQ CQ CQ!

QSO anyone?

It's something to look into.

What I don't get is knowing these drastic changes in frequency output, why haven't they tested potential dangers longer term in trial? If they did, then why isn't it public knowledge? Also, why isn't there public briefing on this? It seems a little suspicious when you plan to put of infrastructure across the country that will redefine the internet and its capabilities, yet have almost no interest in an in depth discussion about the process, the way it works, nor possible dangers. No meetings set up? No live streams or interviews? No interviews on the news about this? Just a "The new 5g coming soon to raise internet capabilities and speeds like never before!"

Mix that with a huge amount of scientists warning about potential dangers. Yet everything is swept under the rug and hush hush.

I just want total transparency on this from both sides of the argument from experts in a public viewing setting. I want a large amount of research to comb through.

Otherwise it's just a "well we'll wait and see what happens," type of situation. Most of me doesn't think this will be a big issue and it is a cover up for something else going on, but a part of me thinks this is very suspicious and can have negative effects.

Hello!

what sane mother with a family and children would hear about this stuff, and in a position of power not order a team to do a study on it?

like the people pushing this chit aren't even human or something, or maybe they don't see us as human

fortunately, it can't possibly make people any stupider, so we have that going for us

Dropping a quick pill about the microwave thing...

Common wisdom is that microwaves shoot out RF at a resonance point for water, and they heat the food cuz the water molecules . Nope. Microwaves work because they literally put your food in a reflective box and then just keep pumping phuckin energy into it. RF's just bouncing everywhere and it basically just heats your food up when it runs into it randomly. There's nothing special about the 2.4 GHz frequency except that it's declared available for commercial usage by the FCC. If you had 1 GHz waves or 10 GHz waves, they'd work just as well.

That's also why you can't run a microwave while it's empty. As the saying in radio engineering goes, "RF's gotta go somewhere". Usually you pump 700W in and 700W ends up sunk into your food after a little bit of bouncing around. But with nothing in it, you have 700W bouncing around inside the microwave after 1 second and 1400W after 2 seconds and 2100W after 3, and eventually it's going to look for the only way out it has, which is straight back to the emitter device. The reflectivity from the microwave walls make the transmitter literally cook itself.

I was talking to reachable people. You dont understand EMR or have much basic reasoning.

1.one of the charts in the OP is supposed to be the water absorption of EM waves based on frequency and it looks almost the same between 10ghz and where 1ghz would have been, there isn't anything special about the 2.4ghz number

2.maybe being in an enclosed building with the industrial strength routers is the same idea, the EM waves would keep bouncing off the walls until they were used up (potentially mostly in human bodies)who dat?

Just so everyone knows what type of brilliant minds we're dealing with here, the brilliant mind that wrote this ^^ just gave me a red saying the following:What he didn't know is I AM an RF Engineer

So, if you find yourself aligning with someone like this....you really gotta stop and ask yourself..."Hans, are WE the baddies?"

Remember when doctors recommended smoking to their patients?


Telecommunications industry is digging their head into the sand. Nothing to see here.

Verizon is just hoping they don’t get sued to oblivion. Lol

Everybody missing the point

First step is to question is it necessarythenyou can start debating the safety

They've already won. No ones even questioning if we wan't/need 5g, the authorities just roll it out and a small minority of peasants complain "is this safe?"

Its like someoene punching someone. and the victim turns around in shock and says "why did you have to do it that hard? could have done it softer geez"

We're just bending over and taking it

One of my good friends who I unfortunately haven’t spoke to in some years builds cellphone towers, the pictures he used to get were insane. **** that but I bet he is busy as hell with this 5g

I know, after all the **** leftards have been doing during the pandemic I'm surprised the number of Biden supporters on this forum is still in the double digits.

For one, the energy level of a normal cell signal when it gets to the phone is about a trillion times lower than a microwave oven. And then the energy gets absorbed into carpet, roof tiles, drywall, etc, and yeah, some of those picowatts get absorbed into your body. But it's probably not going to keep reflecting on all sides and building unless you're surrounded by flat metal surfaces.

i don't think the argument is that some lunatic in Russia is going to send a 60GHz signal to your cell phone and kill you

it's that the industrial routers have the capability of reaching 60GHz (even up to 300GHz), so choose the right frequency and put it on the ceiling, that put 30 people into a room and you know what's going to happen

knowing that 60GHz has adverse health affects on humans, the only argument you can have against that is that industrial routers reaching 60GHz don't exist anywhere, so therefore 60GHz isn't a weapon like a gun or a bomb

instead of our government and the powers that be acting like humans and saying "ok we understand your fears lets look into this" because they are supposed to SERVE US, not a peep is coming from them and that's just very extremely super suspicious ( i didn't even know about any of this 7 days ago )

yes x-ray wave length is perfectly matched up with water molecule length....hence the fireball from a nuclear explosion in atmosphere heh