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post 1616087231 09-09-2020, 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted By ikepen
yeah, it's quite unreal, visited factories there 10+ years ago and you can really see and feel how bad they treat their cheap labor. Piss poor working conditions, everything done manually. Quite the experience to be honest.

Not much we can do about the middle class dying but the least we can do is protect ourselves by not holding too much cash in savings but holding strong company stocks and some gold and silver. Also no point in holding fixed income now, yields will remain low and you're basically gonna lose money every year since inflation will most likely be higher than your bond yield. Don't be left holding the bag. Buy stocks, real estate, gold. Imagine how many people have the standard 60/40 breakdown in stocks and bonds. chit's gonna hurt sooner than later.
And that's exactly what the govt wants you to do. It's a TINA market: There Is No Alternative to pumping stocks and residential real estate.
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post 1616087371 09-09-2020, 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted By MetroBrah
If you're not a third party reseller/wholesaler on Amazon/Walmart while simultaneously investing the profits into AMZ and WMT I'm not sure what to tell you.
Lmao you really think this business model will last? Just like they outsource employees, the independent workers that built their business for them will be eliminated by bringing 100% of product in house. Get the $ while you can but just lmao at thinking it will last. Third party sellers only exist for market research into what products will sell and which won't. They'll buy your inventory for pennies on the dollar or ship it to you and replace with their own srs.
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post 1616087701 09-09-2020, 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron
Amazon apparently has teams of people employed to do exactly that.
I met a guy on the product research team in Seattle. His entire job is scouting out 3rd party sellers who are making good money and then figuring out how to offer the product in house and cut out the other seller.
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My advice folks is to start learning a business that can't be automated and will always be needed, especially by rich people who will pay lots for your service. Plumbing, farming, construction, etc. I literally make 120+k/year walking dogs because there is a strong market for it in my area. That said I know the tech jobs that keep people here wealthy and unable to walk their own dogs will see all their jobs outsourced in the next decade so I am planning on a move to ranching/farming in 5 years. Rich people will always need good quality vegetables and meat and they are happy to overpay for it if they think the quality is superior. Learn to suckle the rich titty boyos.
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post 1616088991 09-10-2020, 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted By ltsOgre
Working for a small business sucks. Long hours, no benefits, no profit sharing, and they stiff you on wages.

What we need is more government intervention and socialism. See sig & title.
Working for a small business was the only job I ever had where I was given a bonus at Christmas time and a regular yearly pay rise.
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post 1616089051 09-10-2020, 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted By Peacening
My advice folks is to start learning a business thatcan't be automatedand will always be needed, especially by rich people who will pay lots for your service. Plumbing,farming, construction, etc. I literally make 120+k/year walking dogs because there is a strong market for it in my area. That said I know the tech jobs that keep people here wealthy and unable to walk their own dogs will see all their jobs outsourced in the next decade so I am planning on a move to ranching/farming in 5 years. Rich people will always need good quality vegetables and meat and they are happy to overpay for it if they think the quality is superior. Learn to suckle the rich titty boyos.
Umm, ok?
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post 1616089141 09-10-2020, 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted By Peacening
My advice folks is to start learning a business that can't be automated and will always be needed, especially by rich people who will pay lots for your service. Plumbing, farming, construction, etc. I literally make 120+k/year walking dogs because there is a strong market for it in my area. That said I know the tech jobs that keep people here wealthy and unable to walk their own dogs will see all their jobs outsourced in the next decade so I am planning on a move to ranching/farming in 5 years. Rich people will always need good quality vegetables and meat and they are happy to overpay for it if they think the quality is superior. Learn to suckle the rich titty boyos.
This.

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post 1616089321 09-10-2020, 12:25 AM
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wish I was born in American. It's so easy to get rich srs. How anyone is poor in the USA is beyond me


get rich, then gtfo and live in a nicer country
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post 1616100481 09-10-2020, 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted By PowerPal
wish I was born in American. It's so easy to get rich srs. How anyone is poor in the USA is beyond me


get rich, then gtfo and live in a nicer country
How would you get rich and why can't you do that in australia?
post 1616103501 09-10-2020, 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted By ErnieMccracken
How would you get rich and why can't you do that in australia?
they outsourced all the kangaroos.
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even though you are a *******, you are right on this one,


miscers defending billionaires because they made some grands on stock market
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Originally Posted By kinzu1996
miscers defending billionaires because they made some grands on stock market
nobody made **** over here everybody is larping there were 8 threads daily on average when the stimulus cheques were being handed out and threads left and right asking people "what are you going to do with your trump bux"

bunch of broke losers all around.
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Originally Posted By ErnieMccracken
I still can't believe corps got UNLIMITED QE while poorcels got $1200 and told to fukk off and die lol. What a power move by Daddy.
Lol, this. QE infinity, no reserve ratio needed for banks. Fed outright buying stocks, bonds, REITS. Proles get 1200$.

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post 1616104981 09-10-2020, 07:51 AM
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read why we want you to be rich, first 50 pages. its over
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Yeah this is probably nothing compared to what will happen with the automation push. Had brought this up when the pandemic first started to really spread -- there will be an even greater incentive to push towards automation and the introduction of machines in otherwise resistant industries because of the disease vector. And it makes sense, especially as our population density -- and risk of communicable disease transmission -- continues to increase. You could see the writing on the wall when places locked down, a highly-automated business wouldn't be impacted and would likely flourish instead.

This won't be the last pandemic we face. And if you want to build a business that will be capable of dealing with the associated risks, you need to automate and remove the human factor as much as possible.
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Wouldn't the middle class be taking advantage of all that since their investments are going sky high? Its more like RIP to anyone who can't afford to invest
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Originally Posted By FFailed
Wouldn't the middle class be taking advantage of all that since their investments are going sky high? Its more like RIP to anyone who can't afford to invest
That’s why major brokers introduced partial shares last year.

Now the plebs can buy 1/5th of one amazon stock and not get priced out. Rich get richer

Edit: ironically just before things like TSLA and AMZN pamped 300-700%
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Originally Posted By FA*******
And that's exactly what the govt wants you to do. It's a TINA market: There Is No Alternative to pumping stocks and residential real estate.
Well a large issue with real estate is having foreign nationals buying real estate in the US because they can’t park their dollars in their home country (China), which drives up the US housing market.

This should be a top 5 national security issue. We simply cannot continue to allow non-citizens or non-green card holders the ability to purchase property in the USA. This also requires the removal of the EB-5 visa.
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Originally Posted By quadfecta
That’s why major brokers introduced partial shares last year.

Now the plebs can buy 1/5th of one amazon stock and not get priced out. Rich get richer

Edit: ironically just before things like TSLA and AMZN pamped 300-700%
Why would you buy a partial share instead of a mutual fund or etf?
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Most of the middle class likely can’t afford to invest in any significant way, especially when younger and still getting established. Middle class income in the US is like $80k household.

If you have money to throw around at investments, you’re likely already upper middle class at a minimum or otherwise advantaged (like making decent money while living with parents)
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What timeframe are they talking?


This just in. Amazon is actually up infinity% if we're talking the day they started!!
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Originally Posted By MuscleXtreme
Why would you buy a partial share instead of a mutual fund or etf?
Most millennials partial shares are marketed to use Robinhood for the 0 commission fees

Not aware you can purchase the traditional legit investments like those on there

Only people with 50-100k to invest use commission based brokers that I’m aware of
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Originally Posted By banks13
America’s middle class died in the 70’s. Offshored jobs to China, 2 million immigrants a year coming in, capital gains taxed at like 10 percent. Ya America is fuked.
Been watching it play out all my life. Blame my grandpa for my boring political awareness. He used to break it all down for me during the nightly news- who would win, who would lose, what it really meant.
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worrying as this will make r-tards more susceptible to socialist BS
Um, isn't this kind of a done deal already? Have you seen what's up with riots and protests?
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Originally Posted By FA*******
It's not even so much govt fiscal policy as it is automation. That's the 800lb gorilla no one talks about.

If workers were actually needed, wages would rise accordingly. The laws of supply and demand are immutable. But if workers weren't really needed and were only competitive vs technology below a certain price, we'd see wages stagnate near that line with steady layoffs as the technology cheapens and lowers that bar further. Oh wait, that's exactly what we see.

And then we've got miscers here thinking "I've got my CPA, I'll be gainfully employed for life!", with their SVPs ready to automate them with machine learning ********** as soon as the technology becomes reliable and available.They think they're CEO 10k/day, but all they are is just white collar Chinese garbage men.

Anyway, itisa wealth transfer, but it's more of workers' former wages being transferred to the machine owners. Yes, govt is doing their part to pump the market with ZIRP and printing trillions of dollars at the public's expense, but the bedrock issue is that there's tens of millions of American workers who could die tomorrow and all be replaced by automation within a year tops.
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Originally Posted By FA*******
On another note, this is part of the trickle-down pill that right wing miscers don't want to swallow.That money that the corporations are supposed to reinvest in American workers and "raise their boats in the tide" or what the phuck ever is instead often reinvested with the express intent of automating away their jobs (see: Amazon).

Trickle-down only works in a closed system, or you know, one where one party can't phucking eliminate the other.
Uh huh.
Originally Posted By Peacening
My advice folks is to start learning a business that can't be automated and will always be needed, especially by rich people who will pay lots for your service. Plumbing, farming, construction, etc. I literally make 120+k/year walking dogs because there is a strong market for it in my area. That said I know the tech jobs that keep people here wealthy and unable to walk their own dogs will see all their jobs outsourced in the next decade soI am planning on a move to ranching/farming in 5 years.Rich people will always need good quality vegetables and meat and they are happy to overpay for it if they think the quality is superior. Learn to suckle the rich titty boyos.
Your best bet if you can pull it off- the land and initial investment in infrastructure.
Originally Posted By FinBra
Lol, this. QE infinity, no reserve ratio needed for banks. Fed outright buying stocks, bonds, REITS. Proles get 1200$.

andwetoldthemitwouldtrickledown.jpeg

Fuuhh, would rep but on spread.
The more you know.
Originally Posted By MuscleXtreme
Well a large issue with real estate is having foreign nationals buying real estate in the US because they can’t park their dollars in their home country (China), which drives up the US housing market.

This should be a top 5 national security issue.We simply cannot continue to allow non-citizens or non-green card holders the ability to purchase property in the USA. This also requires the removal of the EB-5 visa.
Unless you are actually part of an anti-nationalist globalist cabal.
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Originally Posted By FA*******
It's not even so much govt fiscal policy as it is automation. That's the 800lb gorilla no one talks about.

If workers were actually needed, wages would rise accordingly. The laws of supply and demand are immutable. But if workers weren't really needed and were only competitive vs technology below a certain price, we'd see wages stagnate near that line with steady layoffs as the technology cheapens and lowers that bar further. Oh wait, that's exactly what we see.

Look at China for example. Over there, you'll see a crew of like 4 guys riding on the side of a garbage truck and dumping the bins in by hand, whereas in the West we use 1 guy and a hydraulic lift. You'll see 2 security guys watching a parking lot in China, while we use 0 guys and a security camera. Part of that is political, one of the main positives Communism offers to its subjects is guaranteed employment, but the main reason is that their labor is simply cheaper than buying a machine. Once that changes, they'll be gone.

And then we've got miscers here thinking "I've got my CPA, I'll be gainfully employed for life!", with their SVPs ready to automate them with machine learning ********** as soon as the technology becomes reliable and available. They think they're CEO 10k/day, but all they are is just white collar Chinese garbage men.

Anyway, itisa wealth transfer, but it's more of workers' former wages being transferred to the machine owners. Yes, govt is doing their part to pump the market with ZIRP and printing trillions of dollars at the public's expense, but the bedrock issue is that there's tens of millions of American workers who could die tomorrow and all be replaced by automation within a year tops.
True, A lot of people think they're irreplaceable but for how long. Exactly, Like you said in every area we can streamline for profits of efficiency there is some type of program or machine slowly replacing the humans which is good and bad you just need to make sure you're on the right side and not getting to comfortable and complacent with were you're at in life.
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