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NYC Council wants to ban landlords conducting criminal background checks

https://nypost.com/2020/09/14/nyc-co...ground-checks/
Landlords are up in arms about proposed City Council legislation that would bar them from examining the criminal records of prospective tenants, which they claim could let drug dealers and other criminals into buildings.

“There is an obligation on the part of owners to provide a safe home for tenants,” said Joe Strasburg, who runs the landlord industry group, the Rent Stabilization Association.

“If this bill passes, you won’t know who’s living next to you — whether it’s a drug dealer or a ****phile,” Strasburg argued. “They have a right and an expectation to feel safe in their homes.”

State laws that bar many sex offenders from living within 1,000 feet of schools, playgrounds and other facilities used by children would still apply.

The bill’s chief sponsor defended the measure as a way to ensure that those with rap sheets get an opportunity to find housing and avoid the city’s notorious shelter system as they try to restart their lives.

“When someone comes out of prison, they’ve paid their debt to society and they deserve to be able to live in a home just like anyone else,” said Councilman Stephen Levin (D-Brooklyn).

“A lot of the people who have criminal records have criminal records because of minor drug convictions,” he added. “Someone with a minor drug conviction in their younger days — sent to prison because of the draconian Rockefeller drug laws that we’ve reversed — should not be forced to live in a shelter for the rest of their lives.”

The background check ban would be in addition to an existing 2008 city law that bars landlords from examining how tenants can pay their rent, which housing advocates long complained that landlords had to block lower-income New Yorkers with housing vouchers from their buildings.

The bill is slated for a Council committee hearing on Tuesday along with a package of bills aimed at expanding the Big Apple’s housing voucher program for New Yorkers who are in shelters or at risk of eviction, known as City FHEPS.
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They're trying to out stupid California.

Will never understand why the left puts criminals before everyone else, they know how badly this could end but they don't care.
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Hahahaha. I once inadvertently rented an apartment that I later learned didn't do background checks...... Never again.
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Biden actually wants to take this one step further nationally

In 2016 Obama tried to make it illegal for landlords NOT to rent to convicted felons, the federal government would take you to court if you didn't let rapists and murderers live in your house.

https://www.housingwire.com/articles...n-ex-convicts/

They changed the law without anyone knowing since the media never told the NPCs what was going on, and if Biden wins then this is coming back with a vengeance in the BLM era
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Originally Posted By Halfway⏩
Biden actually wants to take this one step further nationally

In 2016 Obama tried to make it illegal for landlords NOT to rent to convicted felons, the federal government would take you to court if you didn't let rapists and murderers live in your house.

https://www.housingwire.com/articles...n-ex-convicts/

They changed the law without anyone knowing since the media never told the NPCs what was going on, if Biden wins then this is coming back
And millions of brainwashed idiots will vote for their demise: more taxes, more wars, less safety, less jobs, criminals and dregs come first, radical fringe groups decide policy...all because "he's not Trump"
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release criminals from prison because 'covid' (but masks totes work u guys!! be sure to mask up!!!)

old people with china virus together with everyone else in nursing homes

can't check backgrounds to rent out your massive investment(house) to them. crackhouse inbound.

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Not sure why this is a left vs. right thing. If a felon did their time why does society keep punishing them? What’s the purpose of prison?
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Originally Posted By Halfway⏩
Biden actually wants to take this one step further nationally

In 2016 Obama tried to make it illegal for landlords NOT to rent to convicted felons, the federal government would take you to court if you didn't let rapists and murderers live in your house.

https://www.housingwire.com/articles...n-ex-convicts/

They changed the law without anyone knowing since the media never told the NPCs what was going on, and if Biden wins then this is coming back with a vengeance in the BLM era
he also tried to make white suburbs less white by moving minorities in them and government paying for the costs with section 8 if the neighborhood had more whites than nonwhites.
https://nypost.com/2016/05/08/obamas...-less-wealthy/

in other words white people literally funding their own demise via taxes. lets not even get into the below replacement birthrates, they also want to put crime-ridden people next door to you
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Originally Posted By esmile⏩
Not sure why this is a left vs. right thing. If a felon did their time why does society keep punishing them? What’s the purpose of prison?
it's not society punishing them, it's a property owner vetting who they allow on their property

i don't need government telling me how to do that
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you get a good enough idea of the person by interviewing them...
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Originally Posted By esmile⏩
Not sure why this is a left vs. right thing. If a felon did their time why does society keep punishing them? What’s the purpose of prison?
How is letting landlords know what they did punishing them? Is it better to protect them after they made poor choices or protect landlords and other tenants from dealing with someone who shows the capacity for violence and lacks empathy for victims?
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Originally Posted By esmile⏩
Not sure why this is a left vs. right thing. If a felon did their time why does society keep punishing them? What’s the purpose of prison?
I think it has more to do with the fact that tenants deserve to know who they are in the building with and landlords deserve to know or whether to be skeptical on whether they will even receive payments or cause problems.
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Feel bad for the poor people who have to live amongst the dregs.
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Originally Posted By esmile⏩
Not sure why this is a left vs. right thing. If a felon did their time why does society keep punishing them? What’s the purpose of prison?
in theory yes, but in practice, no. it speaks to their general character. would you want your daughter around a convicted ****phile just because he "did his time"?
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Originally Posted By Leonydus⏩
he also tried to make white suburbs less white by moving minorities in them and government paying for the costs with section 8 if the neighborhood had more whites than nonwhites.
https://nypost.com/2016/05/08/obamas...-less-wealthy/

in other words white people literally funding their own demise via taxes. lets not even get into the below replacement birthrates, they also want to put crime-ridden people next door to you
Yup,I live next to those cities and their crime rates have gone up 20% on average every year

Since the BLM cuckening all the Karen suburban housewives who previously were against section 8 are now virtue signaling about how we need future engineers and doctors in our city.

One part of McKinney got fukked because of that infamous video of young section 8 Doctors invading an HOA pool and attacking residents, the cops came and tackled a sweet precious angel and it was all over the news as evil police racism against God's most perfect creatures.

Since then that HOA no longer enforces the rules and you can imagine how that worked out. Thanks to the importation of Engineers they also elected a massive racist, wife beating councilor who tried to get a cop fired for giving him a speeding ticket.
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The same people bringing up these laws live in gated communities with armed security. Tired of these fake Liberals that pretend they're doing good work. Definitely wouldn't wan scum living in my buildings.
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Originally Posted By esmile⏩
Not sure why this is a left vs. right thing. If a felon did their time why does society keep punishing them? What’s the purpose of prison?
Because where do you draw the line? If your mother, sister, daughter or a female you cared about started dating a dude. Then you found out he had a history of molesting kids, rape, domestic violence, etc. And was an actual convicted felon who did time for it. Would you just be like. He did his time, we can't punish or judge him for his past?

Or what about if you know he did 10+ years in prison and just got out. You don't know anything about him. What his crimes were. Etc. Because the system changes to where that can't be researched. Would you be like, lets give him a chance and take a risk he's not a violent criminal?



Its one thing to screen someone and know what your getting into. Its another thing entirely to make it to where people have to be kept in the dark about someone's past when they pose a potential risk.

They are making it seem like they are protecting people who got busted smoking weed or some other 'harmless' crime with this bill. The truth is they are protecting felons that are convicted of a crime. Big difference between someone that commits petty crime and someone that racks up felony convictions.
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I dunno, this doesn't seem like an awful law by itself. A Landlord is always going to run a credit check as well, which is really going to tell you if a person is worthy or not. My family owns a bunch of properties, and I personally wouldn't have any problem renting to someone who has good credit but had some issues in the past. Someone like them is more appealing than one of these trust fund commie kids who can pay rent but might decide not to.

As with most feelgood Dem policies, this will just make housing less available to the people this is intended to help though. Because Landlords will have fewer tools at their disposal, so will make more decisions based on gut feeling and will exercise more caution.
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Surely there’s some interpretation on the landlord’s part? Obviously would be stupid to deny a person because they were charged with possessing a small amount of marijuana in the 80s or something
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There are enough clean candidates that the landlord doesn't really need to consider someone who's not. They have paid their debt legally, however morally is not up to them or the state, but rather other individuals who have their own set of standards and beliefs. I would not hold a small charge 10 years ago against someone, but a landlord must rent to the tenant he believes will take care of the property best and also pay on time. To some extent you could argue many people who have been to prison might actually outwork people who have not, perhaps out of fear of going back, but again that's something that has to be proven. Unfortunately when you go to prison there is a stigma that comes with that, right or wrong. I realize that's what this law is aiming to get rid of and it's a noble cause for the cases of petty theft or some small drug charge, but the correct response is to better distinguish the crimes initially from being felonies on the same level as more heinous crimes or denote it somehow on the background check so that it doesn't come back in the same light as someone with 15 charges of violent crimes. Perhaps financially incentivize landlords to take on 1 to 2 people with priors (smaller chargers nothing major) and see how it works out for a couple years. You can believe that there will be some people who find out about the persons past and actively try to avoid them or perhaps even become confrontational with them if they feel personally threatened.
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“When someone comes out of prison, they’ve paid their debt to society and they deserve to be able to live in a home just like anyone else,” said Councilman StephenLevin
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lol at trying to remove the rights of someone knowing who is staying in their property. Fuking cucks, good lord.

Always sympathy and concessions for people doing the wrong thing. Though, not as bad as CA's HIV laws.

"They deserve the right to live in a house like anyone else" Yeah and fuking owners deserve the right to choose who lives in theirs. SMFH.
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Originally Posted By Destor⏩
Surely there’s some interpretation on the landlord’s part? Obviously would be stupid to deny a person because they were charged with possessing a small amount of marijuana in the 80s or something
As it is now a landlord has the ability to do a criminal history check and decide if they want to rent to the person or not. Obviously if its a BS arrest like marijuana, fighting, public intox, DUI, etc. 99% of land-lords won't care.


This type of thing is preventing people with sex crimes, violent crimes, theft/burglary, etc. from moving into their properties. But the politician wants to block it.
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