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post 1616877381 09-18-2020, 07:11 AM
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If you want to find a wife, 25 is the absolute max age (Srs) (calculations inside)

If you meet when she is 25, you will potentially get married in 3-5 years (potentially more but 3 years is the absolute bare minimum to meet, date, get engaged and then hitched)

That means she is 28 to 30 when you tie the knot, add in a year to settle into marriage and that becomes 29-31

That leaves between 4-6 years of prime child rearing left. Anything much over 35 massivley increases the risk of complications, autism and means she will be into her mid 50s before the kid leaves high school.



This is also quite an aggresive timescale, so its fair to say 25 is the hard cut off. Thats why girls 27-28 get so forward and talk about kids on the first date , they are "in a rush"
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post 1616877431 09-18-2020, 07:13 AM
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They key there is that SHE is 25. Not you.
post 1616877491 09-18-2020, 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted By WoofieNugget
They key there is that SHE is 25. Not you.
Absolutely , apologies for the unclear title

We do not to bear it in mind though. This gives a target age of 21-24, meaning we have to be of an age for that not to be weird.
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post 1616877571 09-18-2020, 07:17 AM
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Btw 3 years is AGGRESIVE

Say 3 months from meeting to GF, average engagement to wedding is 13 months. That means only 20 months of being together before getting engaged

You could easily add 3-5 years extra here
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post 1616877631 09-18-2020, 07:18 AM
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Solid numbers OP, been running this through lately as well. Settled on 27< as 25< females seem to be all over the place in the city.
post 1616877841 09-18-2020, 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted By NotAware
Solid numbers OP, been running this through lately as well. Settled on 27< as 25< females seem to be all over the place in the city.
Agree its a tough balance, you are better off meeting them earlier and spending more time than that age tho

27 she is in such rushed timescales, that can get in the way of reason
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post 1616877851 09-18-2020, 07:22 AM
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I agree.


I was on my friends instagram and was looking at his fiance. Beautiful women, well dressed, not a whore etc. I was miren hard. I mirin dudes who found good girls at an early age. Here i was thinking it was all about being alpha zyzz and banging whores, but the real smart brahs found top tier girlfreinds at university, friends/family at 21,22 and been together ever since.

The rest of us are ****ed.

But it's true i met girls who have told me they want kids before 30 and they have told me this at 24, 25... so it is interesting when they are still single at 26..27 tour is ending really
post 1616877901 09-18-2020, 07:25 AM
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ive never dated over 24 (not on purpose), and I agree. Any older and the baggage piles on and the pressure to get married gets stronger.
post 1616878061 09-18-2020, 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted By WoofieNugget
They key there is that SHE is 25. Not you.
25 is still young for a girl. I don't mean physically but mentally/emotionally. You're taking a big risk because that girl may change her world view or what she wants in a man. They usually have some idea of what they want by 28 or so.
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post 1616878241 09-18-2020, 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted By SkiGains
how weird/hard is it for a 29 year old guy to date a 25 year old girl?
Not at all, in fact I think average/preferred age difference for women is exactly that.
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25 is still young for a girl. I don't mean physically but mentally/emotionally. You're taking a big risk because that girl may change her world view or what she wants in a man. They usually have some idea of what they want by 28 or so.
Lots of women want to get married and have kids by 30 too. They have similar timescales to what OP said, my fiancée and all her friends knew this since university.
post 1616878491 09-18-2020, 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted By PenorBrahNoHomo
Not at all, in fact I think average/preferred age difference for women is exactly that.



Lots of women want to get married and have kids by 30 too. They have similar timescales to what OP said, my fiancée and all her friends knew this since university.
This. I think over 35 is when a man starts running out of time to build a proper family
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post 1616878521 09-18-2020, 07:33 AM
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My mom had me when she was 38 and I'm only a little bit autistic.
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Met my wife when she was 30, I was 37. Everything worked out fine, happily married, two kids, 10 years together. Still had plenty of time to get to know each other, settle in, travel the world.
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post 1616878691 09-18-2020, 07:36 AM
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Nice, my wife turned 25 the day before our wedding and our first kid was born 4 months later, so looks like I'm getting a high score from this grading criteria.

Met her at 21.
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should you be worried if you ever meet a girl who says she doesn't want kids or a family by 30? (kinda srs may imply some mental problem srs)
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Originally Posted By wave_length
Met my wife when she was 30, I was 37. Everything worked out fine, happily married, two kids, 10 years together. Still had plenty of time to get to know each other, settle in, travel the world.
Feels bad for you for settling with some girl who rode the carousal in her 20's then saw you as a beta provider at 30. lmaooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooo
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true... it's always interesting to see women 32 or 34 years old on OLD taking about wanting kids.
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Originally Posted By LukeS1
This. I think over 35 is when a man starts running out of time to build a proper family
You're wrong. I thought the same at your age btw.
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Originally Posted By KathleenRyan
My mom had me when she was 38 and I'm only a little bit autistic.
It can happen, it will often be fine but you are playing with fire once you go above 35;



Its not something you would want to realise is an issue, when you're married, one kid in etc...
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Originally Posted By Imnew1
You're wrong. I thought the same at your age btw.
Maybe its a bit later, but how old can you date 23-24 year olds and it not be weird?

I dont want one of those 45 year old man 33 woman relationships that go from meeting to pregnant in 6 months, they are desperation
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Originally Posted By sandman2019
Feels bad for you for settling with some girl who rode the carousal in her 20's then saw you as a beta provider at 30. lmaooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooo
If you say so.
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Agree with OP/10.

Met my wife when she was 21, married when she was 23. Still together at 26. Have a kid. Strong relationship.

Previous girlfriend was 28 when we met, 34 when we broke up. She was an absolute train wreck. Not sure if she wanted kids. Did want, did not want. Just very unsettled. She's probably in her 40s now, and married an unemployed fat stereotypical cuck soyboy that was 10 years younger. Strong mental problems.

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Originally Posted By ScottTil
true... it's always interesting to see women 32 or 34 years old on OLD taking about wanting kids.
Yep. Like "what have you been waiting for, and not my problem?" should be the attitude of most guys at the same age.

It stands true that any woman over 30 that wasn't career oriented in her 20s and early 30s, and was hot and cool, but somehow not married and has never had kids must have something wrong if not a single decent man followed through with marrying them and having babies. There really can't be a great excuse. They either were stuck up and rejected plenty of good men and thought the Wall would be defeated and Chad would be waiting on them whenever they're ready, partied way too much, are psycho and every long term ex said hell no to wifing this up, or just basically not wife and mother material. There's no way the excuse can be that every long term ex screwed them over and promised the moon and just dragged their feet or something.
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Originally Posted By LukeS1
Maybe its a bit later, but how old can you date 23-24 year olds and it not be weird?

I dont want one of those 45 year old man 33 woman relationships that go from meeting to pregnant in 6 months, they are desperation
He's probably a delusional miscer who thinks he'll be slaying prime poon into his 40s and 50s
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Originally Posted By SkiGains
how weird/hard is it for a 29 year old guy to date a 25 year old girl?
How many Benjamin's you got?

How many zeros in the old bank book?
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Originally Posted By sandman2019
should you be worried if you ever meet a girl who says she doesn't want kids or a family by 30? (kinda srs may imply some mental problem srs)
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[QUOTE=LukeS1 post_id=1616879031]It can happen, it will often be fine but you are playing with fire once you go above 35;

[img]https://www.britishfertilitysociety.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Graphic-3.png[img]

Its not something you would want to realise is an issue, when you're married, one kid in etc...[/QUOTE]I do wonder as well how much of the birth defects/issues are more a result of women letting their health go to absolute chit once they've entered their 30s, rather than just their fertility or egg count dropping.

I have no idea, just curious.
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Originally Posted By sandman2019
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a flip switches in girls around the age of 21-23 if they are family orientated. Before that dating/guys is just for fun and they go for whatever they feel like

If you are dating a girl in the 22-24 range, they will usually start to get the idea that they either need to commit to having a family with you, or move on to a more suitable person to avoid being single again at 26+. If they don't start getting this ideas then, they probably never will
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Originally Posted By KathleenRyan
I do wonder as well how much of the birth defects/issues are more a result of women letting their health go to absolute chit once they've entered their 30s, rather than just their fertility or egg count dropping.

I have no idea, just curious.
Its more biological tbh. Before the last 50 years or so women had there kids well before turning 30, its only now since they are more career orientated, and want the slooting years that they have had them later
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