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09-21-2020, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted By nothingshocking⏩
I agree it’s important figure out what type of learner you are and take advantage of your strengths.I was a terrible student in High School. I never cracked a book or learned how to study. I cruised by with what I retained from listening in class, and got some stronk scores on the SAT and found myself at a top 20 college competing against the top 5-10% from high schools around the country.
So I knew listening wouldn't cut it. I read everything assigned, and tried to make my way through the problem sets, but the reading was literally hours and hours for each course every single time we had class. I took my first exam and got a C. I was like fuk me. So I went and talked to the professor. I told him there was no way there were enough hours in the day for me to read everything and do everything assigned. He asked if I did the problem sets. I said some of them. He told me I was doing it wrong. Quit reading the books. Do the assignments, and use the books to solve the assignments if necessary.
Next exam I got an A, and I didn't crack half my books in College from that point forward.
I retain almost everything I hear, as long as it makes sense I lock it in. Same with the problem sets, I learned a ton by figuring out how to do the problems.
So I knew listening wouldn't cut it. I read everything assigned, and tried to make my way through the problem sets, but the reading was literally hours and hours for each course every single time we had class. I took my first exam and got a C. I was like fuk me. So I went and talked to the professor. I told him there was no way there were enough hours in the day for me to read everything and do everything assigned. He asked if I did the problem sets. I said some of them. He told me I was doing it wrong. Quit reading the books. Do the assignments, and use the books to solve the assignments if necessary.
Next exam I got an A, and I didn't crack half my books in College from that point forward.
I retain almost everything I hear, as long as it makes sense I lock it in. Same with the problem sets, I learned a ton by figuring out how to do the problems.
I was one of those guys that read the textbooks and that was a great way for me to learn. Reading and writing were how I maximized my learning.
As a teacher, I know that’s not exactly the majority. Giving people the opportunity to “do” the skill you’re teaching is ideal for many.
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09-21-2020, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted By DrewDarden⏩
I'm this type of student as well, but I feel like I fall behind this way.I agree It is important figure out what type of learner you are and take advantage of your strengths.
I was one of those guys that read the textbooks and that was a great way for me to learn. Reading and writing were how I maximized my learning. As a teacher, I know that’s not exactly the majority.
I was one of those guys that read the textbooks and that was a great way for me to learn. Reading and writing were how I maximized my learning. As a teacher, I know that’s not exactly the majority.
09-21-2020, 01:40 PM
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i went to tradie skool so i learned a lot that translated to real life
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09-21-2020, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted By criminal_manne⏩
What. What is worst than tax accounting. Worst hours, low performance-reward ratio, lacks social interaction. Unless you're not big 4. Then i guess it's chill.I did accounting so I learned a good bit and use it every day. I work in Tax, not the worst white collar job out there.
Other degrees I have no idea.
Other degrees I have no idea.
09-21-2020, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted By ThenGuru⏩
They are perfect for any science class. I never got much use out of them in any other classes.abuse flashcards to learn, they are a hack, especially physical ones
the only stuff that's really stuck from college is skill-based information
the only stuff that's really stuck from college is skill-based information
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09-21-2020, 03:29 PM
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1) All girls are whores
2) 7s **** a lot better than 8-10s
3) tell girls what they want to hear
4) never get married
5) network and make money
2) 7s **** a lot better than 8-10s
3) tell girls what they want to hear
4) never get married
5) network and make money
09-21-2020, 03:35 PM
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Not really and I graduated with a 4.0. Wish i could go back and redo it. The real benefit of college is networking, and getting sick internships. I didn't do much of either.
09-21-2020, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted By drvillain⏩
This brb I am literally teaching myself via webcasts (essentially youtube vids) tf brahsI like this post, but I also feel that online classes make this more difficult. I could do better though I suppose. Even though I'm likely to get an A in my classes, I DO still have a ton of time to take advantage of.
I feel like I'm teaching myself more so than anything else though
I feel like I'm teaching myself more so than anything else though
09-21-2020, 04:08 PM
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You learn by listening to other people who are smarter than you. You learn to critically think and to question what other people say. You can learn a lot if you apply yourself. If you think taking a class by itself will make you smarter than you wont learn much. You have to take what you learn and apply it. This way it crystallizes in your brain, and you take the theory of the curriculum and apply it to your life.
09-21-2020, 04:10 PM
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Learned to think outside the box, adapt and sell myself.
09-21-2020, 04:20 PM
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learned more in 1 summer self studying than 6 years of college (srs)
major: computer science
major: computer science
09-21-2020, 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted By MuslimBrahSwag⏩
That doesn't surprise me actually.learned more in 1 summer self studying than 6 years of college (srs)
major: computer science
major: computer science
The CS students at my local university are next to useless. We stopped hiring them because they know nothing.
09-21-2020, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted By saltypits⏩
Essentially all the students have to do is complain to the professor here that the test was too hard and the professor will pass themThat doesn't surprise me actually.
The CS students at my local university are next to useless. We stopped hiring them because they know nothing.
The CS students at my local university are next to useless. We stopped hiring them because they know nothing.
It's a joke and this is suppose to be a top 3 school for CS in the state of Texas.
I actually want to be good at my job so I chose the self-study route while doing the bare minimum for the chitty piece of paper you get at the end of school.
09-21-2020, 04:37 PM
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Yeah I learned a ****TON as a neuroscience premed.
99% of college is worthless though. Even as a science major you only know the basics unless you get a PhD and focus on a tiny little topic and become a total expert
99% of college is worthless though. Even as a science major you only know the basics unless you get a PhD and focus on a tiny little topic and become a total expert
09-21-2020, 04:44 PM
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Definitely varies school to school, major to major, and class to class what you can learn.
If you haven't already, I'd figure out what you need to learn (look at job postings' requirements and whatever) and work back from there. See if the school's programs/courses' curricula cover what you want.
I went to a good tech school for CS/Math. I learned a lot in CS but realistically forgot a good bit of some of the math courses. They're just way less relevant for me.
If you haven't already, I'd figure out what you need to learn (look at job postings' requirements and whatever) and work back from there. See if the school's programs/courses' curricula cover what you want.
I went to a good tech school for CS/Math. I learned a lot in CS but realistically forgot a good bit of some of the math courses. They're just way less relevant for me.
09-21-2020, 04:52 PM
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I majored in computer science, so yes.
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09-21-2020, 04:57 PM
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09-21-2020, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted By legbroke⏩
For all you CS brahs, how "applied" is the learning? Are they teaching you how to write code for chit and do code-based projects or is it more based on theory? It seems like a lot of CS courses are just math, so I'm wondering when/where all these grads hone their coding skills. I've also heard people say that some of the best coders are just dudes who spent their entire childhoods messing around with different languages and never earned any degrees. Is this true in your experience? Lastly, how effective are coding bootcamps in terms of getting noobs up to speed? I've not gone the bootcamp route but I am learning python through datacamp. So far so good, but I don't think my ceiling will be that high.Definitely varies school to school, major to major, and class to class what you can learn.
If you haven't already, I'd figure out what you need to learn (look at job postings' requirements and whatever) and work back from there. See if the school's programs/courses' curricula cover what you want.
I went to a good tech school for CS/Math. I learned a lot in CS but realistically forgot a good bit of some of the math courses. They're just way less relevant for me.
If you haven't already, I'd figure out what you need to learn (look at job postings' requirements and whatever) and work back from there. See if the school's programs/courses' curricula cover what you want.
I went to a good tech school for CS/Math. I learned a lot in CS but realistically forgot a good bit of some of the math courses. They're just way less relevant for me.
09-21-2020, 05:00 PM
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90% of people in college don’t study they way it’s intended they usually cram or only search for the main points to get assignments done. After semester it’s all gone because it was only retain for short term memory
09-21-2020, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted By LordBroly⏩
At the school near me, there is very little coding done. This is a problem because IRL you actually have to make real programs. Theory is nice but there's a huge chasm between enterprise programming and what they teach at school.For all you CS brahs, how "applied" is the learning? Are they teaching you how to write code for chit and do code-based projects or is it more based on theory? It seems like a lot of CS courses are just math, so I'm wondering when/where all these grads hone their coding skills. I've also heard people say that some of the best coders are just dudes who spent their entire childhoods messing around with different languages and never earned any degrees. Is this true in your experience? Lastly, how effective are coding bootcamps in terms of getting noobs up to speed? I've not gone the bootcamp route but I am learning python through datacamp. So far so good, but I don't think my ceiling will be that high.
Bootcamps are useless, but might land you a job. Just be prepared to keep learning like mad and be productive at the same time. No real place lacks things like code review and pull requests to keep crap out.
09-21-2020, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted By LordBroly⏩
It really varies. I've heard of schools where students graduate without writing code, but mine was not like that. Probably 80% of my CS courses did heavily require coding, though only the intro class really focuses on you learning "coding" (and Software Engineering did had some very practical bits on its namesake).For all you CS brahs, how "applied" is the learning? Are they teaching you how to write code for chit and do code-based projects or is it more based on theory? It seems like a lot of CS courses are just math, so I'm wondering when/where all these grads hone their coding skills. I've also heard people say that some of the best coders are just dudes who spent their entire childhoods messing around with different languages and never earned any degrees. Is this true in your experience? Lastly, how effective are coding bootcamps in terms of getting noobs up to speed? I've not gone the bootcamp route but I am learning python through datacamp. So far so good, but I don't think my ceiling will be that high.
Maybe they could be some of the best "coders," but that's the thing: companies aren't looking for "coders." They're generally looking for software engineers. Engineerbrahs might hate on software engineers, calling them not real engineers or whatever, but at the end of the day, the job is going to require a lot of systems and design. It's expected that you know how to code proficiently, but generally speaking, what makes you a better or worse candidate compared to others is how well you solve design problems - coding and learning/knowing different program languages isn't really the hard part.
So there's sort of a spectrum. some schools are too theoretical, really teaching strict "Computer Science" without actual coding (though I think that's less common these days), but a coding bootcamp where you don't learn about data structures, algorithms, and software practices is NOT going to prepare you well for real jobs. Not super sure where most bootcamps fall these days as I haven't really done them, but given their short amounts of time and what I've heard, they're likely essentially teaching you code survival skills. You'll be able to hack chit together, but that's not going to cut it for larger/commercial projects.
Something like the below book (see wiki article for Table of Contents) gives a pretty solid coverage of computer science topics you should understand. If you did a coding bootcamp, went through that book well (or found out that your bootcamp covered it), and built a few things (possibly with help/supervision of a more experienced friend/mentor), I think you'd be looking pretty good.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Introd..._to_Algorithms
09-21-2020, 05:51 PM
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I learned a lot in college but I made the mistake of not moving for a better job when I was done so it never really paid off.
This body holding me, be my reminder here that I am not alone.
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