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Originally Posted By Ironmanlet⏩
No one is forcing you to deal drugs. It's just as dangerous as jumping off a cliff. In fact, 99.9% of drug dealers are killed by other drug dealers.The injuries as a result of you jumping off a cliff are in no way a result of other people’s behavior.
Not a comparable analogy.
Not a comparable analogy.
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Originally Posted By pondus_levo⏩
Your statement about the “lesson being not to date a drug dealer” is nothing other than blatant justification.I never said any of to was okay or that she deserved to die. Maybe stop being so emotional.
I will always be the first to point the part the victim played in their own demise, if there is one... and like I said, rarely is there not one in these situations.
Cause and effect, my friends. One thing cannot happen without the other.
Also, if you own a gun, you also have to accept that using it may also get you killed, or someone you love killed.
I will always be the first to point the part the victim played in their own demise, if there is one... and like I said, rarely is there not one in these situations.
Cause and effect, my friends. One thing cannot happen without the other.
Also, if you own a gun, you also have to accept that using it may also get you killed, or someone you love killed.
That is you saying it is okay with different words.
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Originally Posted By Noliberals4⏩
Doubt it.No one is forcing you to deal drugs. It's just as dangerous as jumping off a cliff. In fact, 99.9% of drug dealers are killed by other drug dealers.
I bet most drug dealers are killed in car accidents or by heart disease.
No one is forcing the cops to pretend they are at war when they are not.
The bottom of the cliff doesn’t have this kind of discretion.
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Originally Posted By Ironmanlet⏩
I'm really not. But you are free to interpret the meaning of my words however you want, regardless of what the meaning actually is.Your statement about the “lesson being not to date a drug dealer” is nothing other than blatant justification.
That is you saying it is okay with different words.
That is you saying it is okay with different words.
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09-23-2020, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted By Ironmanlet⏩
Shooting through the door hitting police in the leg purely from them knocking is certainly not the actions of a responsible 2A gun owner.Yes I would.
And you would be singing a different tune if some stranger (from your perspective) came forcefully barging in your house. That is literally the scenario 2A advocates crave for so they can start shooting.
And you would be singing a different tune if some stranger (from your perspective) came forcefully barging in your house. That is literally the scenario 2A advocates crave for so they can start shooting.
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Originally Posted By havoc00⏩
LOL. Jobless losers, cringe chants, fat kunts and their shrill screams. Got cosplayers with guns and hatchets lol. Can't wait for the vids of cars plowing through them, cops pepper spraying and bean bagging them. Soon.jpgLOOOOOOOOOOOL, unloading a Uhaul full of homemade "shields." People grabbing them and legit laughing hysterically. More proof they are just out there because they are bored.
09-23-2020, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted By Ironmanlet⏩
Get your facts straight, police enact/enforce policies established by politicians/voters.Doubt it.
I bet most drug dealers are killed in car accidents or by heart disease.
No one is forcing the cops to pretend they are at war when they are not.
The bottom of the cliff doesn’t have this kind of discretion.
I bet most drug dealers are killed in car accidents or by heart disease.
No one is forcing the cops to pretend they are at war when they are not.
The bottom of the cliff doesn’t have this kind of discretion.
Arrest rates have halved since decriminalization. There were about 15 million arrests annually in the 2000's, down to about 7.7 million arrests annually now purely from decriminalization and the scaling down of the "war" on drugs.
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Originally Posted By JIA⏩
Interesting.You should read this article:https://www.courier-journal.com/stor...me/5593502002/
Some more FACTs:
She was actively involved(her ex stupidly admitted it on prison phone that she was the one handling his finances not knowing it was recorded)
She wasn't asleep(Walker confirmed it)
Police raided the right apartment(her name and address was on the warrant)
Her car was seen frequently at the main trap house which was under police surveillance, thus tying her to the operations
She posted bail for her ex and another notorious drug trafficker
She rented a car in her name, it was later found to be abandoned with a dead body inside
Glover used her car and address for his dealings
She still didn't deserve to die and no knock warrants are outdated(even though performed hundreds of times every day with no issues), but she wasn't the poor innocent EMT who was asleep that the media portrayed her to be.
Some more FACTs:
She was actively involved(her ex stupidly admitted it on prison phone that she was the one handling his finances not knowing it was recorded)
She wasn't asleep(Walker confirmed it)
Police raided the right apartment(her name and address was on the warrant)
Her car was seen frequently at the main trap house which was under police surveillance, thus tying her to the operations
She posted bail for her ex and another notorious drug trafficker
She rented a car in her name, it was later found to be abandoned with a dead body inside
Glover used her car and address for his dealings
She still didn't deserve to die and no knock warrants are outdated(even though performed hundreds of times every day with no issues), but she wasn't the poor innocent EMT who was asleep that the media portrayed her to be.
The link didnt work.
But I wonder if these incidents were very recent or during her time with the EX. Also, was she seen at the trap house or her vehicle? Seems likely that it was the ex BF using her vehicle.
At the end of the day, it seems like her exbf was the msot degenerate of the 3 people involved...Im curious as to see how he was apprehended.
The whole operation seems very unnecessary...and just an excuse for cops to play army.
Reminds me of a unrelated local incident that was filming for Live PD, the police chose to confront and arrest suspects in their home instead of apprehending them when they were in court.
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Originally Posted By Ironmanlet⏩
Being a drug dealer yourself and hanging out with another drug dealer who decides to shoot police when they’re carrying out lawful orders is playing a stupid game. Any other stupid comments?This blows my mind.
Dating a drug dealer is a death sentence.
What is crazy about this is thatthe same people who think it is okay that the government killed her are the same ones that advocate gun rights to protect people from the government
Literal insanity.
Edit: ^^^^^ wizard above
Dating a drug dealer is a death sentence.
What is crazy about this is thatthe same people who think it is okay that the government killed her are the same ones that advocate gun rights to protect people from the government
Literal insanity.
Edit: ^^^^^ wizard above
The only injustice about this entire ordeal is that her family robbed taxpayers of 12 million dollars.
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If people deserved to die based on their associations, we'd have a lot more dead bodies on our hands.
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Originally Posted By JIA⏩
good cliffsYou should read this article:https://www.courier-journal.com/stor...me/5593502002/
Some more FACTs:
She was actively involved(her ex stupidly admitted it on prison phone that she was the one handling his finances not knowing it was recorded)
She wasn't asleep(Walker confirmed it)
Police raided the right apartment(her name and address was on the warrant)
Her car was seen frequently at the main trap house which was under police surveillance, thus tying her to the operations
She posted bail for her ex and another notorious drug trafficker
She rented a car in her name, it was later found to be abandoned with a dead body inside
Glover used her car and address for his dealings
She still didn't deserve to die and no knock warrants are outdated(even though performed hundreds of times every day with no issues), but she wasn't the poor innocent EMT who was asleep that the media portrayed her to be.
Some more FACTs:
She was actively involved(her ex stupidly admitted it on prison phone that she was the one handling his finances not knowing it was recorded)
She wasn't asleep(Walker confirmed it)
Police raided the right apartment(her name and address was on the warrant)
Her car was seen frequently at the main trap house which was under police surveillance, thus tying her to the operations
She posted bail for her ex and another notorious drug trafficker
She rented a car in her name, it was later found to be abandoned with a dead body inside
Glover used her car and address for his dealings
She still didn't deserve to die and no knock warrants are outdated(even though performed hundreds of times every day with no issues), but she wasn't the poor innocent EMT who was asleep that the media portrayed her to be.
I agree she didn't deserve to die and that the police botched the execution of the warrant and does call into question no-knock warrants. But the officers did knock but apparently they didn't announce themselves?? I hear conflicting stories about this.
But she is being exalted as some sort of martyr or hero for the cause, where her tale should be more of a cautionary one, of the sorts of things that can happen when you knowing deal and aid people in criminal activity. The officers should absolutely be at fault here but I think the system and procedures that led to this are to blame. Much more important is that these sort of things are changed so a scenario like this doesn't pop up in the future.
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Originally Posted By Reliance012⏩
Besides the one you just posted?Being a drug dealer yourself and hanging out with another drug dealer who decides to shoot police when they’re carrying out lawful orders is playing a stupid game.Any other stupid comments?
The only injustice about this entire ordeal is that her family robbed taxpayers of 12 million dollars.
The only injustice about this entire ordeal is that her family robbed taxpayers of 12 million dollars.
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Originally Posted By JIA⏩
I have’t said anything to contradict the impact of decriminalizing or ending the war on drugs. I’m on the same page with you.Get your facts straight, police enact/enforce policies established by politicians/voters.
Arrest rates have halved since decriminalization. There were about 15 million arrests annually in the 2000's, down to about 7.7 million arrests annually now purely from decriminalization and the scaling down of the "war" on drugs.
Arrest rates have halved since decriminalization. There were about 15 million arrests annually in the 2000's, down to about 7.7 million arrests annually now purely from decriminalization and the scaling down of the "war" on drugs.
You are arguing this point I don’t even disagree with.
Get my facts straight lol.
Yo are locked and loaded just looking for conflict
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Originally Posted By havoc00⏩
Link?they are handing shields out now, open carrying and threatening to kill the cops already
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Here is part of my problem with this: No body cams. But also...
Liberals: All cops need body cams!!
Also Liberals:
Liberals: All cops need body cams!!
Also Liberals:
Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
Breonna was on the warrant. She wasntinnocent. But she probably didnt deserve to die thoughTwo innocent people are dead.
There absolutely should be repercussions for that.
There absolutely should be repercussions for that.
Originally Posted By TaeBoNinja⏩
How int he world do those things correlate? The 1A is LITERALLY there for citizens to protect themselves from a tyrannical government (and of course self defense). but i have little pitty for suspected drug dealers not that they DESERVED to die or anything)Not sure how anyone who's pro-gun rights, is ok with cops barging into a home like this though.
Originally Posted By Ironmanlet⏩
That's quite the bold assumption isnt it? I know country boys who have only ever been hunting and target shooting may talk alot of chit online, but the reality is, chit is different when you are aiming at another humanYes I would.
And you would be singing a different tune if some stranger (from your perspective) came forcefully barging in your house.That is literally the scenario 2A advocates crave for so they can start shooting.
And you would be singing a different tune if some stranger (from your perspective) came forcefully barging in your house.That is literally the scenario 2A advocates crave for so they can start shooting.
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Originally Posted By RedRusty⏩
It's not about "deserving." But if you are involved with drug dealing, armed drug dealers, and keep bodies in your trunk (wonder if that person deserved their death) there's a reasonable expectation that something like this could happen.If people deserved to die based on their associations, we'd have a lot more dead bodies on our hands.
There's no reason to be destroying cities over people like Breonna Taylor and George Floyd. Plain and simple.
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Originally Posted By Reliance012⏩
Being a drug dealer isn’t a death sentence. Even if it was, it’s not the duty of the police to carry it out.Being a drug dealer yourself and hanging out with another drug dealer who decides to shoot police when they’re carrying out lawful orders is playing a stupid game. Any other stupid comments?
The only injustice about this entire ordeal is that her family robbed taxpayers of 12 million dollars.
The only injustice about this entire ordeal is that her family robbed taxpayers of 12 million dollars.
Stop acting as if it is.
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Originally Posted By Ironmanlet⏩
You don't have to jump off the cliff. That's your choice - like it's your choice to drug deal. Drug dealers aren't friendly people, you do know that right?Doubt it.
I bet most drug dealers are killed in car accidents or by heart disease.
No one is forcing the cops to pretend they are at war when they are not.
The bottom of the cliff doesn’t have this kind of discretion.
I bet most drug dealers are killed in car accidents or by heart disease.
No one is forcing the cops to pretend they are at war when they are not.
The bottom of the cliff doesn’t have this kind of discretion.
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Originally Posted By tank2003⏩
I think is a reasonable assumption. I acknowledge it is an assumption. But not a bold one.Here is part of my problem with this: No body cams. But also...
Liberals: All cops need body cams!!
Also Liberals:
Breonna was on the warrant. She wasntinnocent. But she probably didnt deserve to die though
How int he world do those things correlate? The 1A is LITERALLY there for citizens to protect themselves from a tyrannical government (and of course self defense). but i have little pitty for suspected drug dealers not that they DESERVED to die or anything)
That's quite the bold assumption isnt it? I know country boys who have only ever been hunting and target shooting may talk alot of chit online, but the reality is, chit is different when you are aiming at another human
Liberals: All cops need body cams!!
Also Liberals:
Breonna was on the warrant. She wasntinnocent. But she probably didnt deserve to die though
How int he world do those things correlate? The 1A is LITERALLY there for citizens to protect themselves from a tyrannical government (and of course self defense). but i have little pitty for suspected drug dealers not that they DESERVED to die or anything)
That's quite the bold assumption isnt it? I know country boys who have only ever been hunting and target shooting may talk alot of chit online, but the reality is, chit is different when you are aiming at another human
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My apologies. Here's the actual link:https://www.courier-journal.com/stor...me/5593502002/Interesting.
The link didnt work.
But I wonder if these incidents were very recent or during her time with the EX. Also, was she seen at the trap house or her vehicle? Seems likely that it was the ex BF using her vehicle.
At the end of the day, it seems like her exbf was the msot degenerate of the 3 people involved...Im curious as to see how he was apprehended.
The whole operation seems very unnecessary...and just an excuse for cops to play army.
Reminds me of a unrelated local incident that was filming for Live PD, the police chose to confront and arrest suspects in their home instead of apprehending them when they were in court.
The link didnt work.
But I wonder if these incidents were very recent or during her time with the EX. Also, was she seen at the trap house or her vehicle? Seems likely that it was the ex BF using her vehicle.
At the end of the day, it seems like her exbf was the msot degenerate of the 3 people involved...Im curious as to see how he was apprehended.
The whole operation seems very unnecessary...and just an excuse for cops to play army.
Reminds me of a unrelated local incident that was filming for Live PD, the police chose to confront and arrest suspects in their home instead of apprehending them when they were in court.
Keep in mind the newspaper was forced to retract this article because the mayor condemned its release as "insensitive", even Breonna's attorney pretty much confirmed that the facts in the article were true.
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Originally Posted By ko300zx⏩
Yes, I agree with your point. What you are saying is rational. Others saying she deserved to die are a different story.It's not about "deserving." But if you are involved with drug dealing, armed drug dealers, and keep bodies in your trunk (wonder if that person deserved their death) there's a reasonable expectation that something like this could happen.
There's no reason to be destroying cities over people like Breonna Taylor and George Floyd. Plain and simple.
There's no reason to be destroying cities over people like Breonna Taylor and George Floyd. Plain and simple.
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Originally Posted By RedRusty⏩
I wouldn't say deserved, but I don't care when drug dealers die and consider it a good thing.Yes, I agree with your point. What you are saying is rational. Others saying she deserved to die are a different story.
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Originally Posted By ko300zx⏩
One criminal's family gets 12 million as a settlement, I assume lawyers took over half.It's not about "deserving." But if you are involved with drug dealing, armed drug dealers, and keep bodies in your trunk (wonder if that person deserved their death) there's a reasonable expectation that something like this could happen.
There's no reason to be destroying cities over people like Breonna Taylor and George Floyd. Plain and simple.
There's no reason to be destroying cities over people like Breonna Taylor and George Floyd. Plain and simple.
One criminal is painted all throughout the nation like a hero.
While George Washington is bad.
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