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Thread: Breona taylor announcement being made today at 1:15 EST

post 1617429571 09-23-2020, 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted By KingSWRV⏩
so what ended up happening?
Justice.

No charges for Taylor death. One officer not in the doorway shooting into the apartment charged for reckless endangerment for almost hitting neighbors.
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Originally Posted By memcop⏩
Oh. Then shut up bobble head. No time to mansplain US legal nuances to someone who doesnt even care.

Long story short. Dont shoot at cops, they shoot back.
Why are you so defensive? What happen to you? Lol. Was just a simple question nothing to go crazy about
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post 1617429651 09-23-2020, 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted By PISTELERO⏩
Also I think it's 7 years after a felony you can apply to restore your rights, depending on the felony, so that could be the case also
Much more complex. Never a violent felony or misdemeanor domestic assault will be forgiven.
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Originally Posted By ontclone⏩
Why are you so defensive? What happen to you? Lol. Was just a simple question nothing to go crazy about
I'm not defensive. Stop being so sensitive
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throughout the grand jury readout all you heard was justice being served for breonna's neighbors. why? because they didnt die. the same standard was applied to breanna because her death would have to be accounted for within the case for "wonton endangerment"

her health/well being was not accounted for, but somehow her neighbors were mentioned throughout. the system is rigged to high hell
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imagine defending a drug dealer

when did criminals become martyrs? lmao this country is finished
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Originally Posted By memcop⏩
Justice.

No charges for Taylor death. One officer not in the doorway shooting into the apartment charged for reckless endangerment for almost hitting neighbors.
Good. Never knew why she started getting "bundled in" to the George Floyd riots so prominently. It felt like a tacked on case to legitimize... something. but its hilarious even that one wasnt a valid case.
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Originally Posted By memcop⏩
I'm not defensive. Stop being so sensitive
You are lmao, you are defending this like your life depends on it. It is OK, no one will hurt you. You'll sleep just fjne
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im aware of the case but as for the result and the backlash that's going to happen....Anyone care to give a summary to an Aussie brah on what locals can expect?
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Originally Posted By OptimistPrime11⏩
Really?


Really?????


Stop believing left wing BS and start looking at facts.

Since when is it ok for people to start shooting at cops?

They DID announce their presence.

So just stop.


lol. 10 pages later and you ****ers are still omitting the fact that 11 people said they didn't ID themselves and conducted the raid in plainclothes. just lol. it's that dumbass walkers fault he wasn't a psychic and didn't immediately assume it was police breaking down his door, so breonna deserved to die. brilliant logic
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Originally Posted By Trapstar4.4⏩
throughout the grand jury readout all you heard was justice being served for breonna's neighbors. why? because they didnt die. the same standard was applied to breanna because her death would have to be accounted for within the case for "wonton endangerment"

her health/well being was not accounted for, but somehow her neighbors were mentioned throughout. the system is rigged to high hell
No. You are either dishonest or simply not informed.

This is not the case at all. You're spouting jibberish
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post 1617430841 09-23-2020, 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted By JoocyMane13⏩
im aware of the case but as for the result and the backlash that's going to happen....Anyone care to give a summary to an Aussie brah on what locals can expect?
You are not American memcop will say. Don't worry about this you "bobble head" lollll.
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Originally Posted By ontclone⏩
You are not American memcop will say. Don't worry about this you "bobble head" lollll.
No. He's a miscer from a country that isn't full of pussies. I'd tell him the entire story.

Somebody's passive aggressive "toughness" is being flexed. Lmao Canada
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Originally Posted By JoocyMane13⏩
im aware of the case but as for the result and the backlash that's going to happen....Anyone care to give a summary to an Aussie brah on what locals can expect?
Media and celebrities have been lying about the facts of this case for months on end.

Long story short. She was smashing a drug dealer who had drugs delivered to her home. As the cops close in on the drug ring, simultaneous search and arrest warrants were executed. One was for the girls house. She had a license gun owner over who was not involved (more than likely). Police knock and announce then go in with a battering ram. First cop in gets shot in the thigh and shoots back. Guy next to him shoots back. Taylor is standing next to shooter in hallway and gets smoked. Meanwhile an autistic cop watching the side sliding door starts cranking rounds off into the apartment.

No charges regarding Taylor's death. Autist cop charged for shooting through the apartment and into an apartment next door to Taylor almost striking three in the unaffiliated apartment.
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Originally Posted By memcop⏩
Media and celebrities have been lying about the facts of this case for months on end.

Long story short. She was smashing a drug dealer who had drugs delivered to her home. As the cops close in on the drug ring, simultaneous search and arrest warrants were executed. One was for the girls house. She had a license gun owner over who was not involved (more than likely). Police knock and announce then go in with a battering ram. First cop in gets shot in the thigh and shoots back. Guy next to him shoots back. Taylor is standing next to shooter in hallway and gets smoked. Meanwhile an autistic cop watching the side sliding door starts cranking rounds off into the apartment.

No charges regarding Taylor's death. Autist cop charged for shooting through the apartment and into an apartment next door to Taylor almost striking three in the unaffiliated apartment.
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Haven't logged into my account for 12 years. Been following Taylors case and Flyod.

Aus Police Pursuit policy -higher ups stopped purisuits altogether because the court deemed Police to be at fault for chasing stolen vehicles and the road behaviour of criminals. Then announced that to the public. What do you think happened? Crime went up, 'criminal road user behaviour' went to extremes and the force is still dealing with fallout/issues that come with teaching criminals are right and police is wrong.

Body cams just came in for all LEOs. People expected corrupt behaviour to be exposed and poor policing practises. All it did was improve convictions and reduce complaints. Lawyers hate them- there's no argument for them to make anymore. Police do have authority and people love to believe they abuse it daily. It's jusy not the case.

Disrupting drug trafficking is nearly impossible. Criminals get more and more sophistoicated and unfortunaly for a variety of reasons LEOs can not (funding for example). You take the abililty to enter on what you guys call a 'no knock' warrant and you will never find drugs again. Or you will find them when no one is there to catch a conviciton. High level drug trafficking is killing our society

My point is this- are LEOs ALWAYS right-no. Because a few LEO screw up doesn't mean every LEO screwes up. When you take powers away it takes years to see the ramifications.

And I understand the irony of posting this from account labelled 'Lebron' but he is the epitomy of what is wrong with society. People with large platforms and false information. To be 16 again
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Originally Posted By LebronJ⏩
Aus Police Pursuit policy -higher ups stopped purisuits altogether because the court deemed Police to be at fault for chasing stolen vehicles and the road behaviour of criminals. Then announced that to the public. What do you think happened? Crime went up, 'criminal road user behaviour' went to extremes and the force is still dealing with fallout/issues that come with teaching criminals are right and police is wrong.
We stopped police chases here in LA too, and I'm glad. They just fly a bird up and follow the suspects, and innocent people don't get killed anymore.
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Originally Posted By TaeBoNinja⏩
We stopped police chases here in LA too, and I'm glad. They just fly a bird up and follow the suspects, and innocent people don't get killed anymore.
Hey I agree. Pursuits are really dangerous. But you don't tell criminals what we can and can't do.

Funding is different everywhere.... and LA might have better air regulations for the chopper. But I agree car chasers are highly dangerous
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Originally Posted By TaeBoNinja⏩
We stopped police chases here in LA too, and I'm glad. They just fly a bird up and follow the suspects, and innocent people don't get killed anymore.
They aren't scrambling F16s for that, a helicopter isn't even going to be in the area by the time Mr. Criminal evades a traffic stop.
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Originally Posted By BulkingIsHard⏩
They aren't scrambling F16s for that, a helicopter isn't even going to be in the area by the time Mr. Criminal evades a traffic stop.
Is it not worth letting some scumbag get away until another day (assuming it's not a known murderer or something) if it means NOT killing a mini van full of kids
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Originally Posted By BulkingIsHard⏩
They aren't scrambling F16s for that, a helicopter isn't even going to be in the area by the time Mr. Criminal evades a traffic stop.
Cops hang back, they just don't stay in view of the suspect. That stops the chases, and helicopters are the main way the LAPD keeps track of them anyway. At some point they stop, that's when cops move in.
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Originally Posted By LebronJ⏩
Haven't logged into my account for 12 years. Been following Taylors case and Flyod.

Aus Police Pursuit policy -higher ups stopped purisuits altogether because the court deemed Police to be at fault for chasing stolen vehicles and the road behaviour of criminals. Then announced that to the public. What do you think happened? Crime went up, 'criminal road user behaviour' went to extremes and the force is still dealing with fallout/issues that come with teaching criminals are right and police is wrong.

Body cams just came in for all LEOs. People expected corrupt behaviour to be exposed and poor policing practises. All it did was improve convictions and reduce complaints. Lawyers hate them- there's no argument for them to make anymore. Police do have authority and people love to believe they abuse it daily. It's jusy not the case.

Disrupting drug trafficking is nearly impossible. Criminals get more and more sophistoicated and unfortunaly for a variety of reasons LEOs can not (funding for example). You take the abililty to enter on what you guys call a 'no knock' warrant and you will never find drugs again. Or you will find them when no one is there to catch a conviciton. High level drug trafficking is killing our society

My point is this- are LEOs ALWAYS right-no. Because a few LEO screw up doesn't mean every LEO screwes up. When you take powers away it takes years to see the ramifications.

And I understand the irony of posting this from account labelled 'Lebron' but he is the epitomy of what is wrong with society. People with large platforms and false information. To be 16 again
Good point that needs to be made more often
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Originally Posted By PISTELERO⏩
So what would your solution to these problems be? What would be your biggest change to the law enforcement community?
Srs
Easiest solutions.


Require body Cams for every officer. Severe punishment for turning off cams.

National database of fired officers. You get fired for cause you no longer can work in LE in the country.

Require continuing education. Too many cops misinterpret laws they enforce. ( even had a misc cop do it with me in a thread. He could have arrested someone based on his ignorance)

I want a 3 strikes and out law for what most would consider minor civil rights violations ( no such thing as minor)

I would like qualified immunity weakened pursuant to 1986 claims.

I would like sentancing laws rewritten that cops convicted of a crime on duty receive mandatory max sentences.



That's it. I don't want to abolish police.

I don't want to disarm police

I don't want to defund police.


I just want better police. Cause right now there is very little recourse for someone to be made whole from a wrongful police action. Police continue to misbehave because there are no consequences for their actions.
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Originally Posted By OptimistPrime11⏩
Give me specific examples.

If a cop walks up to a complete bystander and shoots them in the head, just like many blacks have done to whites the past few months? Yes they should be charged.


But here is the thing....cops don't do that do they?

If the black criminal is resisting arrest and gets shot? No, there should be no charges.

In the case of Taylor.....her bf shot first. She was an innocent bystander and it is unfortunate that she was shot. But lets face it, she lived and dealt in a drug criminal world and if she hadn't? None of this would have happened. And as far as the cop shooting her? She was in a house where someone was shooting at the police and she was caught in the crossfire. It is sad yes.

Criminal? No.

And the DA agrees.
Why do you keep mentioning black? They violate every race's rights.


Secondly I am not just talking about police violence.

I'm talking about everything that's misbehavior. Even down to demanding ID when they are not legally entitled to it.
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Originally Posted By OptimistPrime11⏩
Give me specific examples.

If a cop walks up to a complete bystander and shoots them in the head, just like many blacks have done to whites the past few months? Yes they should be charged.


But here is the thing....cops don't do that do they?

If the black criminal is resisting arrest and gets shot? No, there should be no charges.

In the case of Taylor.....her bf shot first. She was an innocent bystander and it is unfortunate that she was shot. But lets face it, she lived and dealt in a drug criminal world and if she hadn't? None of this would have happened. And as far as the cop shooting her? She was in a house where someone was shooting at the police and she was caught in the crossfire. It is sad yes.

Criminal? No.

And the DA agrees.
There are tons of instances of people complying that weren't criminal never been criminal being shot or beaten or paralyzed for life.
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Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
Easiest solutions.


Require body Cams for every officer. Severe punishment for turning off cams.

National database of fired officers. You get fired for cause you no longer can work in LE in the country.

Require continuing education. Too many cops misinterpret laws they enforce. ( even had a misc cop do it with me in a thread. He could have arrested someone based on his ignorance)

I want a 3 strikes and out law for what most would consider minor civil rights violations ( no such thing as minor)

I would like qualified immunity weakened pursuant to 1986 claims.

I would like sentancing laws rewritten that cops convicted of a crime on duty receive mandatory max sentences.



That's it. I don't want to abolish police.

I don't want to disarm police

I don't want to defund police.


I just want better police. Cause right now there is very little recourse for someone to be made whole from a wrongful police action. Police continue to misbehave because there are no consequences for their actions.
Mate most of that is fairly sensible. If you express yourself like this without the clear undertone of LEO hatrd youve had in the past things would be differnet.

The thing is if you weaken qualified immunity the knee jerk reaction is for all officers to behave in a 'safe' manner and 'my job is more important than my duty'. Less officers willing to have a crack and grab violent offenders. There is always inherent risk and if you weaken the 'good faith' arugment officers will do...well nothing until it that argument is tested in court.

I also love your take on mandtory sentencing for LEOs...but not for offenders? Do you understand how backwards it is when society rewards criminals with multiple chances of parole and misdeamours but you asking the punishment for officers to be higher? Extreme example but if a dead body is found in a police officers rental vehicle youd want them chsrged and locked up for sure...food for thought- maybe if taylor was locked up under a stricter standard shed be alive.

I just think its ridculous when an officer makes a mistake the book is thrown but when a CRIMINAL knowingly breaks the law due process is rewarded
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Originally Posted By memcop⏩
Meanwhile an autistic cop watching the side sliding door starts cranking rounds off into the apartment.
Loled. I know Brett through a really good LEO friend that was killed a couple years ago, and when I found out he was involved, not a single cell of shock was in my body. He is the epitome of why people dont like LEO's.

Most LEO's have good intent, in my personal opinion knowing this guy, he wasn't one.
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Originally Posted By LebronJ⏩
Mate most of that is fairly sensible. If you express yourself like this without the clear undertone of LEO hatrd youve had in the past things would be differnet.

The thing is if you weaken qualified immunity the knee jerk reaction is for all officers to behave in a 'safe' manner and 'my job is more important than my duty'. Less officers willing to have a crack and grab violent offenders. There is always inherent risk and if you weaken the 'good faith' arugment officers will do...well nothing until it that argument is tested in court.

I also love your take on mandtory sentencing for LEOs...but not for offenders? Do you understand how backwards it is when society rewards criminals with multiple chances of parole and misdeamours but you asking the punishment for officers to be higher? Extreme example but if a dead body is found in a police officers rental vehicle youd want them chsrged and locked up for sure...food for thought- maybe if taylor was locked up under a stricter standard shed be alive.

I just think its ridculous when an officer makes a mistake the book is thrown but when a CRIMINAL knowingly breaks the law due process is rewarded
But that's the thing.

They often get a light sentence or no time at all when found guilty.

Because Police are not private citizens but agents of the government they are granted special powers. With special powers tho comes responsibility.

In the US military you lose certain rights under the constitution. (For example you commit a crime you can do military time after you get out of state prison)

It should be no different for cops.
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