The black lives matter Movement is the Largest Scale Mass Hysteria Incident in Modern History - In Depth Discussion

The blm movement is going to be remembered as one of society's largest scale incidents of mass hysteria built on overt lies and hatred. By nature of their support, hundreds of thousands of otherwise good people are socially endorsing the violence that arises from these hateful "causes" based on utter fabrications.

The definition of terrorism: the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes.

Whether you support their cause or not, both blm and antifa as organizations fit the literal definition of terrorism. If you don't call them that yourself, that's fine, until recently neither did the American government, but merely saying that they aren't terrorists because you might think they have a reason for their actions is a subjective opinion on something that is otherwise an objective fact. blm/antifa and their supporters are responsible for a great number of increasingly violent attacks in recent years targeted towards opposing views (namely white people and Trump supporters), where they've earned the ire that's currently directed towards them. It's time we collectively began to address these left-wing extremists for what they truly are.

black lives matter as both an organization and as a "social statement" were founded primarily on the basis of "systemic racism" and "police brutality". Both of which have very little merit outside of left-wing echochambers, with almost all of its messaging crumbling under the slightest bit of scrutiny (if it's supporters ever bothered to scrutinize what they are being indoctrinated by).

"Systemic racism" is a catch-all term for any and everything to do with race, applied ad hoc to whatever scenarios people would like changed, whether that's in the public and private school systems, our systems of law and the histories of great nations. No legal definition or even standard application of the word has been decided, and everyone has their own variation on what the word means. And yet, governmental bodies themselves and people are changing the way we act, talk and think in order to combat this vague THEORY (and I stress that word).

"Police brutality" has been a term applied to virtually any instance of law enforcement being applied with force (and sometimes even without it), specifically and especially in regards to any crime committed by someone of the black community. Repeated study after study of police shootings has disputed any notion of "racism" being a factor in police shootings, and yet the stereotype of "evil, racist police" continues to spread. Some studies have even shown the opposite to be true, that white officers are less likely to shoot black suspects, and adjusted for ratios in crime and population white suspects are more likely to be shot by cops (various studies to follow below). And yet, every time a black person is killed by police, regardless of whether or not they were resisting arrest or actively trying to hurt or kill other people, the "police brutality" and "racism" cards have been pulled to demonize lawful shootings to undermine the faith citizens have in their police and government.

Here are some facts and statistics (or what would probably be considered the real enemy to the blm movement...the truth).

In American cops make about 10,000,000 arrests a year. Those ten million arrests don't include detentions, traffic stops or any of the other peaceful public interactions that make up the remaining approximately 60,000,000 police and citizen contact every year. On average per year, only about 1,000 of those 70 MILLION people interacted with end up dead due to police. Yet, people act like their chances of dying at the hands of a cop are anything but minuscule. The entire blm narrative is built on the foundation of "police brutality" and "racism" that simply isn't reflected in reality.

We're not even going to begin to discuss how many of those 1,000 people killed by cops each year are armed and dangerous (which is the majority of cases), or how many of them aren’t black (also the majority). It's also important to note that in police reporting "unarmed" does not mean "not violent". We can even assume, for the sake of argument, that none of those 1,000 police killings each year are justified (even though the vast majority of them are). The ratio of unarmed black men shot and killed (23) in 2018 was 1 out of 67,334 black men arrested. According to the FBI’s Uniform Crime Reporting, there were 686,665 sworn police officers in the United States in 2018. That’s one unarmed black male shot and killed for every 49,047 sworn police officers. Out of the nearly 47.8 million black Americans, the police have shot roughly one unarmed black male per roughly 2.1 million people.

The inevitable conversation that follows is that black people only represent 14% of the US population, how is it that they make up such a high number of overall police deaths**.** blm and it's supporters would like to propagate the idea that it's racism. Which fortunately has little factual basis in this topic. This is where we need to have those brutal, honest conversations that everyone claims to want to have regarding race (silence is violence after all), but nobody is actually allowed to discuss without being banned, canceled or called a racist nazi.

In the US, the American black population represents 53% of convicted murders, 29% of rapes, 54% of robberies, 33% of assaults, 43% of weapons charges, 29% of domestic abuse and 27% of drug abuseviolations among others (continuing to over index in almost all areas of remaining crime).The vast majority of these crimes were conducted by males, meaning that half of the violent crime in America is committed by less than the roughly 6-7% of black menin the US. It's not only understandable but expected that there would be a higher degree of violence involved in these arrests, as usually the type of person that's being arrested for murder isn't likely to go without a fight, nor would they like to spend their lives in prison. Ignoring these facts is tantamount to delusion.

Almost all studies that conclude that black people are killed disproportionately fail to factor in crime rates into their models, whether on purpose to reach a desired conclusion or via a poor scientific process. Those are very relevant statistics that cannot be ignored when discussing police interactions with black people, nor can they be discarded in studies, as they help to explain why there is a disparity between the black population and arrests/deaths. Many who like to dismiss these figures do so by doing what they always do, and cry "racism", whether it's the mere use of these statistics or in the very core of every single arrest that makes up the data.

But simply hand-waving away the reason that there are so many violent interactions between the black community and the police due to "racism" is disingenuous and deliberate. The reasons behind those crime rates and why the black community is plagued by crime are extraordinarily complicated, and very well may contain elements of race and racism reaching back decades (such as the Welfare system and Jim Crow laws), but that’s an entirely separate conversation for another day unrelated to the premise of "police brutality towards blacks". The fact of the matter is, the black community has and will continue to have problems with overwhelming violence without real intervention, and its these problems that lead to further violent interactions with police.

Keeping the aforementioned statistics in mind, each year, American cops kill more white people, both in raw numbers and when adjusted for crime rates, than black people (note: the study has since been retracted due to public inference, however, the data included remains valid, even more studies with similar findings below). Only roughly .009% of all arrests ended with a civilian death regardless of race, and for every 10 deadly weapon assaults on a police officer there was as a result of 1 fatal police shooting, or in other words, even in encounters with deadly weapons police will only fatally shoot about 10% of the time. In fact, research done by the National Police Research Platform, only roughly 27% of those 680,000+ officers report ever even firing their gun on duty (which doesn't specifically entail actually shooting someone either, just the fact that they've shot their weapon). And yet the narrative of blood thirsty police persists.

Contrary to the black lives matter narrative, the police have much more to fear from black males than black males have to fear from the police.In 2015, black civil-rights commissioner Peter Kirsanow famously defended the police by acknowledging that a police officer is roughly 18.5x more likely to be killed by a black male than an unarmed black male is to be killed by a police officer, a number that's been repeated ad nauseam and is roughly supported by statistics year after year (it lowers to roughly 2.5x more likely for a cop to be killed by armed black males than the reverse). Factually, black males have made up nearly 50 percent of all cop-killers over the last decade even though they are only 6-7% of the overall population.

White people make up roughly over 50% of known race homicide victims, with caucasians representing roughly 76% of the total US population. Black people were 45% of known race homicide victims, but only 13% of the population. Which means the homicide rate for blacks was 3.5x their percentage of the US population, making them over five times as likely to be homicide victims.

According to a Bureau of Justice Statistics 2018 study, 15.3% of violent crimes against whites were committed by blacks for a total of 547,948 crimes, with violent black offenders being 1.8x their percent of the population. In contrast, whites committed 10.6% of violent crimes against blacks for a total of 59,777 crimes, making up 0.8x their percentage of the population. But of violent crime against black people, 70% of the time the offender was reported by the victim themselves as black, which is supportive of the epidemic of black-on-black violence increasing across the country. The offender to victim ratio shows that violent incidents involving black offenders (22%) was twice the percentage of black victims (11%).

Hate crime statistics actually show that in recent years, anti-black incidents overall fell to a recent record low share of all hate crime, while anti-white and other races have seen increases in hate crime towards them. Meanwhile hate crimes committed by black offenders continues to increase year over year, reaching a high of 24% of all reported hate crimes despite making up only 14% of the population. In major cities such as New York, black perpetrators make up the majority of hate crimes towards Jewish and LGBT people, again, despite the narrative that says black people are society's current victims of discrimination.

People need to stop acting like, just because they’re black, they’ll die if they interact with the cops or that white people are targeting black people with racism and hatred. Of course in a country of hundreds of millions of people there is going to be anti-black racism. But it certainly isn't to the degree in which activists like to perpetuate, such as it being a public health crisis. Statistics simply do not reflect any reality in which this absurdity is true, unless a concentrated effort is put into disqualifying and discounting data that opposes the narrative. If anything, the crime data, statistics on police shootings and the general modern societal zeitgeist would suggest an active and ongoing discrimination against whites. But hey, that's another topic for another day isn't it.

The questions that decent human beings need to seriously ask themselves in regards to police is, are you committing crimes? Are you going to resist if the cops try to arrest you? I would hope not for both of those questions. In 2020, there's no excuse for that level of ignorance. Therefore, your chances of dying at the hands of the police are virtually zero. But, the best part is, even if you are committing crimes and resisting arrest, your chances of dying at the hands of the police are still virtually zero, regardless of your skin color or particular demographic.That's the statistical fact. No matter how many slogans are chanted or how many times ACAB is gratified onto buildings, it doesn't suddenly mean the police are out to kill anyone.

The gaslighting from the media and the blm supporters claim that the violent actions of a "few" rioters do not represent most of the "peaceful group" (a courtesy not extended to the legitimately mostly peaceful police). The left-leaning Armed Conflict Location & Event Data Project reports that in the summer of 2020 alone (not including the continued riots in September) there were 7,750+ demonstrations related to blm. Of those, over 1000 included some sort of assault on police and/or bystanders, arson or looting but yet were not declared riots.

Over 570 of those "peaceful protests" in 220 locations turned violent to the degree that they were declared riots. That's 570+ "mostly peaceful protests" barely covered by mainstream news, that seemingly most supporters of blm refuse to acknowledge even occurred, which included an estimated $2 billion dollars in damages (most of which isn't covered by insurance, done to local family businesses, many black owned), along with a few dozen related fatalities (including targeted, accidental and incidental, more to follow below) and countless incidents of arson, looting and assault against bystanders and police. ACLED also stated that of those demonstrations, only 5% of them have been met with force by police, which is obviously roughly the same percentage of "protests" that become violent riots.

Only of course the media and blm supporters would like you to believe that police (by way of "fascist" Trump) are arresting and attacking "peaceful protesters utilizing their 'freedom of speech'", which couldn't be further from the truth. The freedom of speech was designed to protect people from those who think violence is the solution to democratic problems. Inciting violence was written in as an exception to the amendment, in part so that people couldn't use strength against others to assert beliefs. There's legal and historical precedence for proper "freedom of speech" and "freedom to protest", and nobody should care about the personal interpretations of rioters and terrorists on those fundamental freedoms.

And yet here we are, in a society where the mainstream media, an extraordinarily vocal minority of citizens, multinational billion dollar businesses donating hundreds of millions to the cause that partially goes to fund rioters' bail from jail after arrests (multiple criminals who then went on to commit other murders), celebrities and sports teams are all siding with blm over blatantly false lies and misinformation. All the while supporting the notion that black people are being "oppressed and victimized". None of their opinions on equality, inclusive ideologies and the freedom of speech, actually extends to the mostly peaceful police officers, towards white people, or any other demographic that condemns these actions (such as the increasing number of liberals leaving the party #WalkAway, or the various minority groups now increasingly supporting Trump). People need to forgo emotional arguments for rational analysis, stop confusing correlation with causation, and understand the impact of confounding variables and their own bias in these discussions.

cliffs

- blm are marxists and need to be put down via ar-15


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Systemic racism is the biggest hoax since Juicy Smooyay

i cant even post wtf

it wont let me post the rest

Inb4 BLM supporters plug their ears and look away.

This is a huge problem that needs to be addressed. But, like Obama, they would rather complain about the issue than actually fix the problem.

systemic racism isn't real, r-r-ight guys?

Lmao you didn't read one single word.

It's not. Also, isn't it funny how everything about "systemic racism" is just about how their criminals are treated?

There is economic privilege, but not race privilege.

Another war won on the misc.

https://web.archive.org/web/20200920...t/116/32/15877


"We find no evidence of anti-Black or anti-Hispanic disparities across shootings, and White officers are not more likely to shoot minority civilians than non-White officers. Instead, race-specific crime strongly predicts civilian race. This suggests that increasing diversity among officers by itself is unlikely to reduce racial disparity in police shootings" and "Examination of National Violent Death Reporting System data shows racial differences across types of fatal shootings. Black civilians fatally shot by police (relative to White civilians) are more likely to be unarmed and less likely to pose an immediate threat to officers. In contrast, White civilians (relative to Black civilians) are nearly three times more likely to be fatally shot by police when the incident is related to mental-health concerns and are seven times more likely to commit 'suicide by cop'".

its too early for this **** bro

it's almost like highly policed populations with high incarceration rates affects the economic viability of a population towards poverty which in turn results in more violence
I don't even know how the **** you came up with the second sentence, when I am specifically talking about blacks.

Not really. Black people commit more crimes than anyone else even the middle class/upper class black people commit more crimes than any other race in comparison. It seems like you just want to make excuses because your boy got 5 years in prison while a less poor non-black person got less.

F out of here with that BS. Say it doesn't exist to black people who experience it. You should also look into why crime is so high in highly concentrated black areas/cities. You know who made ghettos right?
Blacks weren't allowed to have good jobs
Wouldn't let them live in good neighborhoods.
Wouldn't give them good education.
Add all that up and what does that equal?
Read Color of Law and them come back with some real sense.

Is There Evidence of Racial Disparity in Police Use of Deadly Force? Analyses of Officer-Involved Fatal Shootings in 2015–2016

https://web.archive.org/web/20200726...48550618775108

"When adjusting for crime, we find no systematic evidence of anti-Black disparities in fatal shootings, fatal shootings of unarmed citizens, or fatal shootings involving misidentification of harmless objects. Multiverse analyses showed only one significant anti-Black disparity of 144 possible tests.Exposure to police given crime rate differences likely accounts for the higher per capita rate of fatal police shootings for Blacks, at least when analyzing all shootings. For unarmed shootings or misidentification shootings, data are too uncertain to be conclusive."

Your very own source debunks this. LMAO

I knew cultists were dumb...but HAHAHAHAHAHA

strong cult of intelligence and accurately interpreting data

Ur a racist pos kid

Of course I did. The topic OP brings up should be at the center of fixing racism in the US. Instead it is censored online because it is deemed racist by those who don't want to fix the problem.

The ugly fact is that blacks commit a disproportionate amount of crime in the US. It is also disproportionately scapegoated as racism in the black community to escape taking ownership of said ugly fact.

It is time to re-evaluate what is causing blacks to commit such high amounts of crime. My personal theory is it starts at the home. Black youth have the highest rate of being raised by single mothers. The community needs to focus more on the family structure and cast away "hood" mentality.

The Reverse Racism Effect

Are Cops More Hesitant to Shoot Black Than White Suspects?

https://web.archive.org/web/20200607...lic_Policy.pdf


"We found that, despite clear evidence of implicit bias against Black suspects,officers were slower to shoot armed Black suspects than armed White suspects, and they were less likely to shoot unarmed Black suspects than unarmed White suspects.These findings challenge the assumption that implicit racial bias affects police behavior in deadly encounters with Black suspects."

ITT we learn being poor means you are automatically a criminal. You know what results in violence? Choosing to take violent actions - nothing else.

His second sentence is a real problem in the justice system but given your comments in this thread you are obviously too dumb to understand it.

says I am dumb

brings up completely irrelevant topic that has no relation or explanation as to why blacks are 7x more likely to be wrongfully convicted of murder

l o l

systemic racism is real. fAcTs DoNt CaRe AbOuT yOuR fEeLiNgS

Is this the black people only commit more crimes because that is where the police are argument?

You think white people get away with literal murder. Just look at murder statistics then and forget the petty stuff.

Just sayin', no racist, but pull your head out of your ass and look at statistcs.

The US needs to give blacks some sort of reparation, just like they did with the Japanese, indians, etc

You're asking far too much of someone like him. He thinks cops patrol ghettos to arrest innocent black people.

I DO think there are systematic issues with sentencing for minor drug crimes. Again, the statistics are there to support it. I agree, its a problem.

But that problem stems more from judges than police anyway.

But no one gets away with murder, and murder arrests don't happen due to where police patrol or how aggressively they patrol. So all of those variables are taken away and you are left with murder statistics that blatantly tell a story.

Are you saying the programs to help the black community coming out of the 1960s civil rights era didn't happen, or that they didn't work?

Yup, that's an economic issue, more than a racism one.

It would be one thing if poor white people get it better than richer black people, but it's based much more on class/economic than race.

Perils of police action: a cautionary tale from US data sets



"On average, an estimated 34 people were killed or medically treated for injury by law enforcement per 10 000 stops/arrests. That ratio is surprisingly consistent by race/ethnicity. Blacks have high arrest and stop rates, and per capita are much more likely than whites to die at the hands of police.However, when blacks are stopped or arrested, they are no more likely than whites to be injured or die during that incident. Consistent with our findings, simulation studies find police are no more likely to fire on unarmed blacks than unarmed whites, and high rates of black speeding citations per capita result from high violation rates.."