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Thread: Misc Firearms Crew LXXVII: Locked (Down) and Loaded

post 1617516901 09-24-2020, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted By BulkingIsHard⏩
Stopping power is fuddlore tbh. Anything that can reliably go through and through is good enough, shot placement and capacity is what matters. 22lr is obviously not recommended due to magnitudes smaller muzzle energy and likelihood of missing CNS due to ricocheting or curving off trajectory by tumbling after impact. Bigger bullet is certainly better for hunting since the bear will bleed out faster, but for defense, you're dead if you only hit a charging bear in the lungs, so it doesn't really matter unless it's a cannon.
When you backpack bear country, you're welcome to bring your 9mm
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Originally Posted By Ikeman83⏩
I'll interpret that as 100 rds.
im glad my stash bothers you so much
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post 1617517111 09-24-2020, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted By 4ea⏩
im glad my stash bothers you so much
The topic being discussed has nothing to do with your stash, FWIW
post 1617517501 09-24-2020, 07:53 PM
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rectifier, saw thread, laughed hard. that little bastard really got his feelings hurt over one neg. i guess im going to have to start being really mean to him now.

LOL
Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
The topic being discussed has nothing to do with your stash, FWIW
right.
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post 1617518441 09-24-2020, 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
When you backpack bear country, you're welcome to bring your 9mm
Make that 10mm and I’m in!
post 1617518591 09-24-2020, 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted By Powerkicker⏩
Make that 10mm and I’m in!
i d rather have a little 22 vs a sword/knife
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Originally Posted By Powerkicker⏩
Make that 10mm and I’m in!
Capacity >>>>
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post 1617518861 09-24-2020, 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted By criminal_manne⏩
Capacity >>>>
My glock 20 holds 15 10mm. That’s seems pretty decent. I’ll unload 14 into the bear and save the 15th for myself.
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Originally Posted By Powerkicker⏩
My glock 20 holds 15 10mm. That’s seems pretty decent. I’ll unload 14 into the bear and save the 15th for myself.
ive heard it said that bears wont be immediately stopped by one round, but multiple rounds will stop them.

but i would imagine that having a bear charge at you would be stressful and you could easily miss with a pistol. something like a semi auto rifle would probably work better
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Originally Posted By 4ea⏩
ive heard it said that bears wont be immediately stopped by one round, but multiple rounds will stop them.

but i would imagine that having a bear charge at you would be stressful and you could easily miss with a pistol. something like a semi auto rifle would probably work better
In that case, I’m going M14 with a bayonet!
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Originally Posted By 4ea⏩
ive heard it said that bears wont be immediately stopped by one round, but multiple rounds will stop them.

but i would imagine that having a bear charge at you would be stressful and you could easily miss with a pistol. something like a semi auto rifle would probably work better
I've linked to the research a bunch. Basically any handgun caliber is 95% effective, historically, at stopping bear attacks.

Bears don't like being shot
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post 1617519431 09-24-2020, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted By Powerkicker⏩
My glock 20 holds 15 10mm. That’s seems pretty decent. I’ll unload 14 into the bear and save the 15th for myself.
I mean yea, 15 rounds of 10mm is superior to 15 rounds of 9 for sure.

I’d rather have 17 rounds of 9mm then 6 44 mag tho
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Originally Posted By Powerkicker⏩
In that case, I’m going M14 with a bayonet!
lol, 20 rounds of .308 would fuk up a bear. then poke it after its dead just for good measure
Originally Posted By LinuxJon⏩
I've linked to the research a bunch. Basically any handgun caliber is 95% effective, historically, at stopping bear attacks.

Bears don't like being shot
yea, that would make sense. still though, id much rather have something more powerful than 9mm if i were going into an area where i could potentially get charged by a bear.
Originally Posted By criminal_manne⏩
I mean yea, 15 rounds of 10mm is superior to 15 rounds of 9 for sure.

I’d rather have 17 rounds of 9mm then 6 44 mag tho
typically revolvers have terrible, heavy triggers on them, it would be damn near impossible to accurately mag dump one without having trained alot. and with .44 mag ammo being so expensive it just makes sense to practice with something like a glock instead and not even bother with magnum revolvers unless its just for having fun at the range.
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post 1617519581 09-24-2020, 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted By Powerkicker⏩
In that case, I’m going M14 with a bayonet!
not practical though, if you are just having a little stroll in the woods taking a hike, you aren't going to have an m14 strapped to your wasteband unless your name is farley1324.
Realistically, if you are in this situation, hope you have a 9 with some good HPs.
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post 1617519941 09-24-2020, 08:14 PM
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Just hike with someone slower than you are.
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post 1617520161 09-24-2020, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted By Legendsneverdie⏩
not practical though, if you are just having a little stroll in the woods taking a hike, you aren't going to have an m14 strapped to your wasteband unless your name is farley1324.
Realistically, if you are in this situation, hope you have a 9 with some good HPs.
i would go hiking with a 16" M5. with that you could effectively deal with any threat you might encounter.
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post 1617520861 09-24-2020, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted By Legendsneverdie⏩
not practical though, if you are just having a little stroll in the woods taking a hike, you aren't going to have an m14 strapped to your wasteband unless your name is farley1324.
Realistically, if you are in this situation, hope you have a 9 with some good HPs.
Article I was reading said heavier grain fmj is superior because it penetrates more. I’m not a scientist though.
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post 1617521211 09-24-2020, 08:26 PM
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If you're out hiking or backpacking and need to defend against a bear, you probably aren't going to have time to empty the magazine
post 1617521271 09-24-2020, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted By criminal_manne⏩
Article I was reading said heavier grain fmj is superior because it penetrates more. I’m not a scientist though.
an object in motion tends to stay in motion. more momentum means more penetration
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post 1617523511 09-24-2020, 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted By Legendsneverdie⏩
not practical though, if you are just having a little stroll in the woods taking a hike, you aren't going to have an m14 strapped to your wasteband unless your name is farley1324.
Realistically, if you are in this situation, hope you have a 9 with some good HPs.
Would you really want hollow points loaded though if you’re anticipating defense against a bear?
Originally Posted By taf1968⏩
Just hike with someone slower than you are.
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Here is the article. Really interesting accounts on a lot of these.

https://www.ammoland.com/2019/03/pis...tive-63-cases/
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post 1617527681 09-24-2020, 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
If you're out hiking or backpacking and need to defend against a bear, you probably aren't going to have time to empty the magazine
Ok, carry a double barrel 4 gauge then
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Well, Farles . . . I finally got some karma payback on someone shipping me more than I ordered by mistake. It wasn't N95 masks, though. I had ordered and paid for a 3/4" ball valve for a plumbing project (qty 1) and the supply house sent me the box of 10 that was the added option (about $120 more than I ordered).

So, I guess that's great . . . although not sure what I'll ever do with 9 spare 3/4" ball valves. LOL.
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So, I've got a line on some defensive ammo. Can basically as much 147g Ranger T ammo as I want for 45 cents per round. I don't even know if it's decent ammo, and normally I'd never carry 147g. But for that price in this market, I'm tempted to just buy a couple thousand rounds.
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Originally Posted By LinuxJon⏩
So, I've got a line on some defensive ammo. Can basically as much 147g Ranger T ammo as I want for 45 cents per round. I don't even know if it's decent ammo, and normally I'd never carry 147g. But for that price in this market, I'm tempted to just buy a couple thousand rounds.
147 g is best, it’s what I carry’s Speer Gold dot though.
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I kind of went to beer commercials, too . . . but this was mine.

Man the Miller Lite ads were great.
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