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post 1618010771 09-30-2020, 07:26 AM
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Is there anyone here who's still debating who to vote for in Nov.?

I mean.. regardless of who you're voting for, I can't see how at this point you can have any debate in your mind.
Biden & Trump represent extremely different agendas, there's really no significant common ground.

To me, the debates this year are all about getting your people to vote rather than actually convincing anyone to vote for you.
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Highly doubt it.
In fact, things are so polarized and chock-full of confirmation bias that I've been saying that I believe you'd be hard pressed to find someone who has changed their vote even since the beginning of this year.
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voter fraud will make biden win unfortunately. debates wont even matter.
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Originally Posted By backinthegymbro⏩
voter fraud will make biden win unfortunately. debates wont even matter.
if you think that voter fraud is a thing, you are 80IQ or haven't researched the "issue" at all.
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Originally Posted By vasskon⏩
if you think that voter fraud is a thing, you are 80IQ or haven't researched the "issue" at all.
Go ahead.....why don't you educate us
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I rarely see anyone say "Well, I've completely changed my mind!" at any point. I mean, it happens, but not often.
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At this point I’m debating on if I am going to vote.

I mean, I will vote for state and local elections for sure. I’m sure I will select someone by then, but this is just a mess.

Also, the electoral college elects the president. While some states do compel the electorates to vote for the popular vote, there are many that do not. There are plenty of examples of the electoral college electing the candidate that did not take a majority of the popular votes, Trump being one of them.

As far as voter fraud, of course it happens (on both sides), but it isn’t as significant as the candidates would like you to believe. And it isn’t to such a level that it would have a meaningful impact.

It is a convenient talking point for “sore losers” and nothing more.
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Originally Posted By Ironmanlet⏩
At this point I’m debating on if I am going to vote.

I mean, I will vote for state and local elections for sure. I’m sure I will select someone by then, but this is just a mess.

Also, the electoral college elects the president. While some states do compel the electorates to vote for the popular vote, there are many that do not. There are plenty of examples of the electoral college electing the candidate that did not take a majority of the popular votes, Trump being one of them.

As far as voter fraud, of course it happens (on both sides), but it isn’t as significant as the candidates would like you to believe. And it isn’t to such a level that it would have a meaningful impact.

It is a convenient talking point for “sore losers” and nothing more.
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I'd say that 99% of people already had their mind made up, including myself.

Trumps behavior is extremely offputting to me. The current Democratic platform is extremely offputting to me. I decided long ago that I'm going to go with the moron who will probably continue to appoint conservative judges and most likely push an agenda similar to what I would like over the nominee of the party who continues to move further and further away from what I believe.

I mean, it really sucks that it had to be Trump though. Because his behavior also hurts the conservative brand badly (It was always going to be a tough path forward for conservatives regardless, but Trump seems to have sped up the process)
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Originally Posted By Ironmanlet⏩
At this point I’m debating on if I am going to vote.

I mean, I will vote for state and local elections for sure. I’m sure I will select someone by then, but this is just a mess.

Also, the electoral college elects the president. While some states do compel the electorates to vote for the popular vote, there are many that do not. There are plenty of examples of the electoral college electing the candidate that did not take a majority of the popular votes, Trump being one of them.

As far as voter fraud, of course it happens (on both sides), but it isn’t as significant as the candidates would like you to believe. And it isn’t to such a level that it would have a meaningful impact.

It is a convenient talking point for “sore losers” and nothing more.
How can you be so bland in your core beliefs of how the country should be ran that you don't know who to vote for? This chit just blows me away, we aren't comparing Bill Clinton vs George Bush where its a couple of moderates with a few slightly different ideas.
You have complete polar opposites of Large Govt/Green Energy/Wealthfare State Vs Smaller Govt/Energy Independence/Lower Taxes & Self Reliance

Also yes there has been voter fraud in the past and it was probably much smaller quantities (like a couple of hundred votes found in a trunk during a close recount) but just like Trump said you have entire states sending out ballots to everyone registered in the state whether they asked for one or not. Thats Millions of spare ballots that can be stolen/bought and cast.
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Originally Posted By frutistafreeze⏩
Go ahead.....why don't you educate us
Well, I'm a busy person to show you all the studies, so I'll keep it simple.
If you look at studies you will find out that people from both parties do voter fraud. But the number is VERY insignificant like 10.000 to 100.000 from the whole USA.

Trump is just using it to suppress poor voters/blacks/hispanics from using the mail voting system. It's way more difficult for poor voters to go vote on election day, because many businesses just force you to work even on election day.
Trump does this 'cause he knows he is going to get trumped even more if these minorities vote, 'cause of course most of them (like 90%) will be Democracts. I totally believe we are going to see a 55% Biden win to 45% lose for Trump at elections. If people could mail vote, it would be 60-65% for Biden lmao. I'm not a Biden supporter btw but this is what I see.
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Originally Posted By IAMBEE⏩
You have complete polar opposites of Large Govt/Green Energy/Wealthfare State Vs Smaller Govt/Energy Independence/Lower Taxes & Self Reliance.
It's not that clear cut, the Republican administration has done some questionable things that make me question the whole "smaller government" ideology.

There are more than two parties, too. People should vote "other" just to spite the groups in power. The "trolling the left" isn't sustainable and the corporate oligarchy is going to blind you to the truth: They're the same ****e. If you're concerned your third party "won't win" then play an active role and build support. 15% turning to 23% turning to 35% will start to rattle the ivory tower. If at 35% the people don't have a voice it will be time to start taking more dire action.

George Washington said permanent foreign alliances and permanent political parties are going to be our downfall. Time to burn it all down (metaphorically speaking).

I'm done with the charade.
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Originally Posted By IAMBEE⏩
How can you be so bland in your core beliefs of how the country should be ran that you don't know who to vote for? This chit just blows me away, we aren't comparing Bill Clinton vs George Bush where its a couple of moderates with a few slightly different ideas.
You have complete polar opposites of Large Govt/Green Energy/Wealthfare State Vs Smaller Govt/Energy Independence/Lower Taxes & Self Reliance

Also yes there has been voter fraud in the past and it was probably much smaller quantities (like a couple of hundred votes found in a trunk during a close recount) but just like Trump said you have entire states sending out ballots to everyone registered in the state whether they asked for one or not. Thats Millions of spare ballots that can be stolen/bought and cast.
The ballots that are sent out have specific authentication measures to deter voter fraud.

One method is a very specific sticker that is either mailed back with the ballot, or removed and brought to the polling station with the voter.

Measures like this prevent the duplication of ballots you are concerned about.
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Originally Posted By backinthegymbro⏩
voter fraud will make biden win unfortunately. debates wont even matter.
Sadly this.
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Originally Posted By ImpressiveGainz⏩
You are well spoken and reasonable, but you hold ideas that oppose mine. How can these two things exist at the same time? Quick, call him a *******.
Okay bro
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Originally Posted By Ironmanlet⏩
The ballots that are sent out have specific authentication measures to deter voter fraud.

One method is a very specific sticker that is either mailed back with the ballot, or removed and brought to the polling station with the voter.

Measures like this prevent the duplication of ballots you are concerned about.
Nothing is preventing ballot harvesting groups from tossing ballots that are likely to go to the candidate that they do not like. Let's not pretend like you know how widespread this practice is going to be this election - you do not.
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I'm pretty sure who I'm voting for, still have to decide how many times I'm voting.

What are y'all's plans? Voting in every state or just the one?
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Originally Posted By backinthegymbro⏩
voter fraud will make biden win unfortunately. debates wont even matter.
I agree with the no post count retard that replied to you, but for another reason.

The voter fraud is being cracked down on big time now. Look it up. Lol

I'm not worrying about it. Srs

Use alternative search engines that won't censor the results, do not use Google.

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I’m not voting lol.

Fuk that.
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In all honesty, I don't think we need another debate. It's not changing anyone's vote, and quite frankly, it's just kind of embarrassing to watch.
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Originally Posted By Audioslave⏩
In all honesty, I don't think we need another debate. It's not changing anyone's vote, and quite frankly, it's just kind of embarrassing to watch.
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I actually was undecided between Trump and third party until last night. After seeing how Trump handled himself, I'm now voting third party.

Regarding voter fraud:

- You have celebrities and other campaigns saying that "every vote counts!" "get out and vote" "your vote makes a difference" (obviously wanting those votes to go to democrats)

- And you have democrats saying "there might be very rare instances of voter fraud but they aren't big enough to make a significant impact"

So....... does every vote matter or is voter fraud insignificant? You can't have both.
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Originally Posted By yeshli2nuts⏩
I actually was undecided between Trump and third party until last night. After seeing how Trump handled himself, I'm now voting third party.

Regarding voter fraud:

- You have celebrities and other campaigns saying that "every vote counts!" "get out and vote" "your vote makes a difference" (obviously wanting those votes to go to democrats)

- And you have democrats saying "there might be very rare instances of voter fraud but they aren't big enough to make a significant impact"

So....... does every vote matter or is voter fraud insignificant? You can't have both.
Florida man strikes again. There is a HUGE difference between the two. It actually buffles me that you don't understand it, so let me explain.

First thing is being said because a big percentage of the democratic voters, recognize as Democrats but for some reason believe that their vote doesn't count and just don't go out an vote. Idk why, they might be retarded or poor, or both.

This is different for the Republic voters, who most show up at the polls. The reason 'every vote counts' is being said is because if most Democrats get the mentality that 'every vote counts' like Republicans, the Dems will have 5% - 10% more votes in the primary EASILY. This is a big reason why Trump won last election(also Hillary was crooked but still).

So yeah 5% - 10% is like 3-6 million votes, which is different from some thousand voter fraudsters.
Also, it seems to me that most fraudsters are Republicans, the last one caught was a Republican Mayor or something. lmao
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Originally Posted By vasskon⏩
Well, I'm a busy person to show you all the studies, so I'll keep it simple.
If you look at studies you will find out that people from both parties do voter fraud. But the number is VERY insignificant like 10.000 to 100.000 from the whole USA.
That is NOT insignificant for local or even state elections....
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Originally Posted By John
I'd say that 99% of people already had their mind made up, including myself.

Trumps behavior is extremely offputting to me. The current Democratic platform is extremely offputting to me. I decided long ago that I'm going to go with the moron who will probably continue to appoint conservative judges and most likely push an agenda similar to what I would like over the nominee of the party who continues to move further and further away from what I believe.

I mean, it really sucks that it had to be Trump though. Because his behavior also hurts the conservative brand badly (It was always going to be a tough path forward for conservatives regardless, but Trump seems to have sped up the process)
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I'm glad Trump was the nominee in 2016. no one else would have beaten Clinton. But I wish Cruz was on the stage last night. don't entirely blame Trump for the performance last night, Wallace should neve rhave been chosen to moderate.
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Originally Posted By GreatOldOne⏩
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