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post 1618615341 10-06-2020, 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted By taf1968⏩
I have an astigmatism and get the ame thing with red dots. Honestly, you kind of figure out what part of the "blob" you need to pay attention to and it's usually not a big deal. I'm pretty used to it with my MRO and I can tune right in.

Same with my Vortex and Aimpoint Pro. You'll figure it out. If it drives you totally nuts, you can look into something with more of a reticle like an Eotech, a Holosun or I think Vortex has one (Spitfire??).
The red dot looks real ambiguous and changes with my eye position. I probably can't use it reliably.

However, having a parallax free option is of utmost importance to me.

Second is field of view.

Third would be durability.

Fourth is compactness and weight. Something the size of an MRO would be ideal.


I think I may have to find a prism optic that meets these priorities or see a doctor?
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post 1618616461 10-06-2020, 05:31 PM
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youre either a sammy haygar VH fan or youre ded to me
Please, David Lee Rothstein FTW.
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post 1618619631 10-06-2020, 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted By Meatie⏩
fuuk I missed a class he was teaching about 4 hours away. Would've drove and stayed in a hotel and scouted the area for some oriental lapjobs while I was at it.Imagine going to the class and getting yelled at from the same guy that used to humiliate TIM KENNEDY. fuuuk!


I am getting a KEEPERS CONCEALMENT CORNERSTONE for the Glocks. Suppose to be an AIWB rig only. If it works better than all the other **** on my larry vickers waistline I have I'll be a believer
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Thanks for your time.
post 1618624071 10-06-2020, 07:10 PM
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Strongly disagree
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Who's your number 1?
And here I thought you guys were actually fans of the show.

Such disappoint



post 1618627341 10-06-2020, 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted By Legendsneverdie⏩
fmj to the forehead would be nasty, a HP to the forehead would be horrific. Both are of a do not want status, but i'd imagine the latter even more so.
that for sure man, even a .22lr to the forehead would be awful.
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Carry like a pro, just look at the size of that laser.

i dont know about you guys, but i like to carry that mac 10 manstopper



only prints a little
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post 1618627421 10-06-2020, 07:57 PM
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Anyone here have experience with ear protection gear?

I'm trying to decide between the Howard Leight Impact Pro and 3M Peltor Sport Tactical 500.

Also, is it worth getting those 3rd-party replacement gel ear pads?

And if I only plan on going to outdoor shooting ranges to shoot my 10mm, will these reduce enough noise so that I won't need to use ear/foam plugs?
post 1618627701 10-06-2020, 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted By votross⏩
Anyone here have experience with ear protection gear?

I'm trying to decide between the Howard Leight Impact Pro and 3M Peltor Sport Tactical 500.

Also, is it worth getting those 3rd-party replacement gel ear pads?

And if I only plan on going to outdoor shooting ranges to shoot my 10mm, will these reduce enough noise so that I won't need to use ear/foam plugs?
After wearing a couple different models of howard leight over ear muffs and some active over ear muffs.....

Screw 'em all honestly. Get something in ear or go with regular orange ear plugs. Hitting your gun stock with your ear gear gets very annoying. To top it off, over ear muffs are not comfortable in high temps.

JMO.
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post 1618629091 10-06-2020, 08:18 PM
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btw, im sure you guys already know, but the ATF just banned honey badger AR pistols as SBRs

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/...dger-pistol-2/

how long until they blanket ban all arm braces?
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post 1618629241 10-06-2020, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted By votross⏩
Anyone here have experience with ear protection gear?

I'm trying to decide between the Howard Leight Impact Pro and 3M Peltor Sport Tactical 500.

Also, is it worth getting those 3rd-party replacement gel ear pads?

And if I only plan on going to outdoor shooting ranges to shoot my 10mm, will these reduce enough noise so that I won't need to use ear/foam plugs?
You want these for passive muffs when not needing a stock'd cheek weld
https://smile.amazon.com/3M-Peltor-O...dp/B00CPCHBCQ/

The 500's you mentioned would be good for what it sounds like you are looking to do as well, NRR of 26 for over the ear, and pistol shooting.

The Leights are pretty good and almost universally liked for their quality vs price, but I find 3M products better across the board IME/IMO. And yes the gel cups are worth it.

If you start talking about long gun shooting and needing a cheek weld though, always (IMO/IME) double up with plugs under the muffs, at least on the side you'll be shouldering the stock to
post 1618629391 10-06-2020, 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted By 4ea⏩
btw, im sure you guys already know, but the ATF just banned honey badger AR pistols as SBRs

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/...dger-pistol-2/

how long until they blanket ban all arm braces?
It's only a matter of time until this "wink wink" "I'd never shoulder that" It'S a BrAcE" obvious loophole (an actual loophole!) around SBR restrictions gets closed.

The more people tout it and push it and get "braces" that are more and more clearly and obviously stocks pumped out there, the sooner it will happen.
post 1618629451 10-06-2020, 08:24 PM
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What if you already have a honey badger AR? Is it illegal now?

If it's not illegal to own, is it illegal to shoot from the shoulder?

I have many questions.
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post 1618629941 10-06-2020, 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
What if you already have a honey badger AR? Is it illegal now?

If it's not illegal to own, is it illegal to shoot from the shoulder?

I have many questions.
You should write the ATF a letter




No, don't do that. Obviously.




The real answer is "who knows"? Possibly nobody knows at this point. Anybody want to be a test case?
post 1618630031 10-06-2020, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
You should write the ATF a letter




No, don't do that. Obviously.




The real answer is "who knows"? Possibly nobody knows at this point.Anybody want to be a test case?
No. No I do not.

As sweet as SBRs are, ergonomically the comfort of a fixed stock surprised the hell out of me.
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post 1618630181 10-06-2020, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
It's only a matter of time until this "wink wink" "I'd never shoulder that" It'S a BrAcE" obvious loophole (an actual loophole!) around SBR restrictions gets closed.

The more people tout it and push it and get "braces" that are more and more clearly and obviously stocks pumped out there, the sooner it will happen.
agree. thats why i never bought one, i knew it was too good to be true and eventually get banned.
Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
What if you already have a honey badger AR? Is it illegal now?

If it's not illegal to own, is it illegal to shoot from the shoulder?

I have many questions.
apparently the ATF isnt answering any questions to the manufacturer, so they (the manufacturer) sent letters out to their customers telling them to disassemble the firearm. if they dont own other AR pistols then to get the upper receiver out of their possession

if i had to guess id say the ATF is trying to be sneaky here. they figure an all out ban on pistol braces will result in lawsuits and stalled time. but if they can successfully ban one specific type of braced pistol they can then use that as legal standing to force a full ban on all pistol braces.


maybe if they want to stop gun violence they should try not selling guns to criminals, and also make it illegal to murder people with firearms....
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post 1618630831 10-06-2020, 08:41 PM
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Fuk the ATF. If braces are banned just put a stock on it and call it a day. They can’t arrest everyone right ?
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post 1618631421 10-06-2020, 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted By criminal_manne⏩
Fuk the ATF. If braces are banned just put a stock on it and call it a day. They can’t arrest everyone right ?
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post 1618631461 10-06-2020, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted By criminal_manne⏩
Fuk the ATF. If braces are banned just put a stock on it and call it a day. They can’t arrest everyone right ?
You mean longer barrel. Yeah that's what you mean.
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post 1618631941 10-06-2020, 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
You mean longer barrel. Yeah that's what you mean.
No. Mass non compliant unregistered short barrel rifles.

If the ATF is reading this..... fuk yourself.


Also buy a drill press and drill that third hole. Full auto is a human right srs
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post 1618632441 10-06-2020, 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted By criminal_manne⏩
No. Mass non compliant unregistered short barrel rifles.

If the ATF is reading this..... fuk yourself.


Also buy a drill press and drill that third hole. Full auto is a human right srs
heres an idea dude, do whatever youre going to do, but stop talking about breaking the law
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post 1618633071 10-06-2020, 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted By 4ea⏩
heres an idea dude, do whatever youre going to do, but stop talking about breaking the law
I don’t wear my seatbelt sometimes and often drive over the speed limit.

I didn’t fill out my census
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post 1618633251 10-06-2020, 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted By criminal_manne⏩
No. Mass non compliant unregistered short barrel rifles.

If the ATF is reading this..... fuk yourself.


Also buy a drill press and drill that third hole. Full auto is a human right srs
Keep everything legal, if SHTF than you can easily and quickly do what you need to your firearms to configure them to be best for survival.

I keep Maglocks on all my ARs for that reason, completely CA legal like that, and if it ever came down to an extreme crisis it's a 2 minutes swap to a mag release.
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Anybody watch this?
Really interesting video and good series.
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And . . . that's why I just went ahead and SBR'd my former brace-equipped piphtol.

I mean, the NFA needs a serious enema, but who didn't see that coming as "braces" looked more and more like actual stocks? Who the phukk has square forearms?
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post 1618634321 10-06-2020, 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted By gbullock32⏩
Keep everything legal, if SHTF than you can easily and quickly do what you need to your firearms to configure them to be best for survival.

I keep Maglocks on all my ARs for that reason, completely CA legal like that, and if it ever came down to an extreme crisis it's a 2 minutes swap to a mag release.
I hear you and I don’t really know how to make a machine gun though. Or rather don’t have the parts.

If it’s that easy to convert that’s just more evidence of how dumb and useless the law is. If everyone just takes it nothing will change.

Or how about ATF doesn’t take a year to approve a stamp ?

Not the slightest bit worried about posting anything here btw, tons of people are posting way worse in other places I Lurk. Like merely suggesting not following the law on the misc is gonna get me jail time lol
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Originally Posted By criminal_manne⏩
I don’t wear my seatbelt sometimes and often drive over the speed limit.

I didn’t fill out my census
Last I checked, none of those got you 10 years in federal pound-ur-angus hotel.

Username checks out, though.
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post 1618634471 10-06-2020, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted By criminal_manne⏩
I hear you and I don’t really know how to make a machine gun though. Or rather don’t have the parts.

If it’s that easy to convert that’s just more evidence of how dumb and useless the law is. If everyone just takes it nothing will change.

Or how about ATF doesn’t take a year to approve a stamp ?
Far more easy than you'd think.. not that I'd google it.

Being friends with the Armory Officer at work has been beneficial to me.
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Originally Posted By gbullock32⏩
Far more easy than you'd think.. not that I'd google it.

Being friends with the Armory Officer at work has been beneficial to me.
Select fire is a little bit harder, just full auto is a 3-D printed “bottle opener” away.

Lower shelf receiver, drill the hole, install auto sear isn’t that hard either I guess. Never tried it and wouldn’t feel comfortable getting the auto sear shipped to my house even though it’s legal to buy.

I
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Originally Posted By criminal_manne⏩
Select fire is a little bit harder, just full auto is a 3-D printed “bottle opener” away.

Lower shelf receiver, drill the hole, install auto sear isn’t that hard either I guess. Never tried it and wouldn’t feel comfortable getting the auto sear shipped to my house even though it’s legal to buy.

I
I'd never go full auto, too inaccurate and a bitch to control. Fun at the range though.
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Originally Posted By 4ea⏩
btw, im sure you guys already know, but the ATF just banned honey badger AR pistols as SBRs

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/...dger-pistol-2/

how long until they blanket ban all arm braces?
hmm. It says "based on the product description", so maybe it was the wording in their advertising. Think their braces are made by SB Tactical, so can't imagine it's in the design of the brace (and they didn't mention that anyway).
Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
What if you already have a honey badger AR? Is it illegal now?

If it's not illegal to own, is it illegal to shoot from the shoulder?

I have many questions.
call ATF and confess your sins!
sorry about the eyes. Farley, or maybe it was the internet, said try co-witnessing with rear iron sight. Never tried bc my issue was with a handgun red dot. Had a romeo5 but didn't want to open box and not be able to return it. Also, if I have to line two things up I might as well just use irons.
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Originally Posted By pUniCepts⏩
hmm. It says "based on the product description", so maybe it was the wording in their advertising. Think their braces are made by SB Tactical, so can't imagine it's in the design of the brace (and they didn't mention that anyway).
possibly, obviously i dont support this kind of thing at all, but it would be better if they only banned one specific firearm and left braces as a whole alone.

i have a strong suspicion that wont happen though


on a side note, a few months ago the ATF successfully banned the fostech origin "firearm" which was basically a braced 12 GA pistol. didnt bother going after other similar firearms like the AWS trench 12



makes me wonder if theyl go after the mossberg shockwave too.
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