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post 1619549201 10-16-2020, 01:44 PM
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Pro Life vs Pro Choice

European brah here who lols @ all those american pro life vs pro choice vids on youtube.
Just a reminder that you are truely LOW IQ if you choose sides over that matter. There are endless scenarios which could justify one over the other.

Man and woman had consensual sex which lead to pregnancy because both were too stupid to contracept? ---> HIGHLY immoral to get an abortion IMO

Woman got legitimately raped and ends up being pregnant? ---> HIGHLY immoral to make her keep the baby IMO



Especially loling @ conservative pro-lifers, who would be the first ones pushing their daughters onto abortion if she got violated and ends up being pregnant by some Rasheed.
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Highly immoral to end an innocent life, end of discussion
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Originally Posted By BulkingIsHard⏩
Highly immoral to end an innocent life, end of discussion
It's not a a life until it breathes and has a heartbeat and brain activity
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OP name one scenario that justifies abortion of a completely healthy fetus at week 40 of a pregnancy.
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post 1619549651 10-16-2020, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted By Drew23⏩
OP name one scenario that justifies abortion of a completely healthy fetus at week 40 of a pregnancy.
Name one scenario that justifies not aborting if the woman got pregnant by legitimate rape. Especially if said woman is your daughter/cousin/sister/stepmom whatever.
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Once a baby is viable outside the womb it is murder IMO. You had like 20 weeks to get an abortion by that point. I also think the right thing to do is to always keep the baby unless it has severe birth defects, etc. I'm glad my mother didn't abort me. Aren't you glad yours didn't abort you?
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your second scenario is idiotic at best. im not even pro life, but a girl that got raped can just take a morning after pill... or at the very least get a very early abortion.


what (i think) most pro lifers are very strongly against, and what the current debate is about, is LATE term abortions and having abortions be funded by state programs (i.e. tax payers dime).
post 1619551991 10-16-2020, 02:15 PM
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You cannot justify an abortion late into pregnancy. I went to both my wife's scans for both my children and we got the 3d scans where you could properly see the baby and it was a fully formed baby. You abort the baby at that point and it's murder in my opinion
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Originally Posted By EZR4⏩
Name one scenario that justifies not aborting if the woman got pregnant by legitimate rape. Especially if said woman is your daughter/cousin/sister/stepmom whatever.
Just to play devil's advocate, can you name one scenario that justifies not killing a child outside of the womb (birth to one year old maybe?) if the woman got pregnant by legitimate rape? Especially if said woman is your daughter/cousin/sister/stepmom whatever.
post 1619552181 10-16-2020, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted By EZR4⏩
Name one scenario that justifies not aborting if the woman got pregnant by legitimate rape. Especially if said woman is your daughter/cousin/sister/stepmom whatever.
I have no issue with chemical or medical abortion in the first trimester for any reason.

Now answer mine.
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Its possible to be pro-life except for certain situations like rape.
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Originally Posted By exxtracool⏩
your second scenario is idiotic at best. im not even pro life, but a girl that got raped can just take a morning after pill... or at the very least get a very early abortion.


what (i think) most pro lifers are very strongly against, and what the current debate is about, is LATE term abortions and having abortions be funded by state programs (i.e. tax payers dime).
This, I think you will find that most reasonable people are against late-term abortions, and do not want their taxes to go fund abortions because some idiots made a mistake and regretted it.

Planned parenthood and other such organizations is also a different issue due to their shady history, but that also serves to add an argument for anti-abortion.
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post 1619552531 10-16-2020, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted By ohiostate124⏩
Its possible to be pro-life except for certain situations like rape.
Right. If rape and incest are excluded, is everyone OK with banning all abortions?
post 1619552651 10-16-2020, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted By ohiostate124⏩
Its possible to be pro-life except for certain situations like rape.
im pro choice up to the moment that the baby can survive outside of its mother. i dont see how anyone with over 40 iq can logically argue that it is not murder at that point..

im also against state funded abortions. you fuked up, you deal with it (unless ofc its rape or something like this).
post 1619553001 10-16-2020, 02:25 PM
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There's pro-life and pro-satan.
You choose.
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Originally Posted By jimbone21⏩
Just to play devil's advocate, can you name one scenario that justifies not killing a child outside of the womb (birth to one year old maybe?) if the woman got pregnant by legitimate rape? Especially if said woman is your daughter/cousin/sister/stepmom whatever.
I cant name one scenario, because i dont think there is a single woman out there stupid enough to carry out a child which has been put into her by force and against her will. Ofc there will be some women with no self worth who'd actually do this. However, if the raped woman decides to not abort, then there is nothing you can do about it. Her choice. The kid should go through his life unjudged and unharmed.
Originally Posted By Drew23⏩
Now answer mine.
Any abortion that takes place after first trimester should be illegal imo. Nothing justifies abortion after a certain time into pregnancy, you should've had enough time to figure out whether you want to keep it or not.
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post 1619554891 10-16-2020, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted By EnochsProphecy⏩
by that logic, if you commit any sin you're pro satan.
By that logic, if you don't eat for a a day you will die of starvation.
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Originally Posted By EZR4⏩
I cant name one scenario, because i dont think there is a single woman out there stupid enough to carry out a child which has been put into her by force and against her will. Ofc there will be some women with no self worth who'd actually do this. However, if the raped woman decides to not abort, then there is nothing you can do about it. Her choice. The kid should go through his life unjudged and unharmed.
That is pretty lazy argument. OK, I found the girl. She was raped but also had a steady BF. Thought she was already pregnant by the BF but the kid comes out a different race than her BF (same race as the rapist). She then takes a hammer and bashes its brains out.

How can you argue that the abortion was OK, but the second scenario should land her in prison?
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Originally Posted By outfoxxed⏩
It's not a a life until it breathes and has a heartbeat and brain activity
Wrong. Life by a loose scientific definition is an independent (on the cellular level, disregarding biological relationships) organism with unique DNA (excluding identical organisms). This single lifeform has the potential to grow into a fully functioning human, and express disapproval at the thought of being prematurely killed, nevermind when sapience or sentience is developed in the fetus. At this point a moral grey zone is reached where normal humans must confront the dilemma: Is this unborn child's right to life less important that the mother's right to life, even if it cannot express it's opinion in that moment? The answer is no, with the only exception of the mother's life being threatened, especially considering foster care and adoption are always a viable alternative.

Foster care may be a chit system, but it's still better than dying. This dude could have been aborted and yet here he is today:



Edit: Oh yea, also, statistically, around 86% of abortions are the result of irresponsibility (not ready, can't afford, don't want, etc.), 6% as "other", and the rest legitimate health and disability concerns with rape at an insignificant less than half a percent (https://www.guttmacher.org/sites/def.../3711005t3.pdf)
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Originally Posted By ohiostate124⏩
Its possible to be pro-life except for certain situations like rape.
Honestly this is where I lean, but I feel like if that was the law, you'll get a serious rise of false rape accusations because they straight up just do not want the child.
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Originally Posted By EZR4⏩
European brah here who lols @ all those american pro life vs pro choice vids on youtube.
Just a reminder that you are truely LOW IQ if you choose sides over that matter. There are endless scenarios which could justify one over the other.

Man and woman had consensual sex which lead to pregnancy because both were too stupid to contracept? ---> HIGHLY immoral to get an abortion IMO

Woman got legitimately raped and ends up being pregnant? ---> HIGHLY immoral to make her keep the baby IMO



Especially loling @ conservative pro-lifers, who would be the first ones pushing their daughters onto abortion if she got violated and ends up being pregnant by some Rasheed.
Your second example makes up a tiny fraction of all abortions.

False dichotomy.

The very fact that there is ambiguity about when life actually starts speaks for itself.

If you support the murder of unborn fetus, you are a subhuman.

End of discussion
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Originally Posted By BulkingIsHard⏩
Highly immoral to end an innocent life, end of discussion
No, not end of discussion.


Highly immoral force the birth of unwanted children to parents that can't afford to support them thereby passing the cost of raising the child onto you and me (the taxpayer)
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Originally Posted By ohiostate124⏩
Its possible to be pro-life except for certain situations like rape.
I don't see how. If life is sacred and abortion such a big evil then the manner of conception should not matter.
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Originally Posted By EnochsProphecy⏩
lets be honest, most people who get abortions would have been bad parents anyways. You want a bunch of kids raised in poverty by parents who never wanted them running around? Because that is what will happen if you make abortion illegal, also enjoy your tax money going to them to help them survive.



Poor children, they never had a chance.


she has 17 kids now

On topic. At what stage do you think it's ok to suck this little guy out with a vacuum. Or if he's too big, smash him up with pliers and then suck him out with a vacuum?
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Originally Posted By PlanoLifter⏩
No, not end of discussion.


Highly immoral force the birth of unwanted children to parents that can't afford to support them thereby passing the cost of raising the child onto you and me (the taxpayer)
Brb euthenize disabled who are a burden to taxpayers
Brb euthenize homeless who are a burden to taxpayers
Brb euthenize hospitalized who are a burden to taxpayers
Brb euthenize poors who are a burden to taxpayers
Brb euthenize sub 120 IQ in the year 2050 who are a burden to taxpayers
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Originally Posted By BulkingIsHard⏩
Highly immoral to end an innocent life, end of discussion
'Says the clown holding an instrument of murder in his avi.
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Pro choice unless you can't comprehend the concept of bodily autonomy. End of discussion
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To those who opposes women’s’ rights, is giving a gal a falcon punch ok?
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I am 100% pro life and would never abort my child. That being said, if some piece of chit gets knocked up, it's better for the world if they don't raise another piece of chit.
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