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post 1619139341 10-12-2020, 08:34 AM
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Laid back but nice. He always has that Satch vibe to him as well. That music room is also fantastic.

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Originally Posted By EoR
Laid back but nice. He always has that Satch vibe to

him as well. That music room is also fantastic.
Awesome. Love it. I remember him saying Surfing with the Alien made a big impact on him early on.

This is how you do an EVH tribute...



What I'll always remember about Ed is at a time when a lot of guitarists were taking themselves ways too seriously pouting and doing Blue Steel poses he always looked like he was having a great time.
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If you guys are ever wanting a cheap project guitar, i would highly recommend the stuff from rondo music.

I just bought one of their really low priced teles, and it is pretty amazing for ~100.

Had to polish the frets and file 1 fret end, and change the strings, but it plays and sounds just as good as my $800 tele.
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Originally Posted By EoR
Laid back but nice. He always has that Satch vibe to him as well. That music room is also fantastic.

That was awesome! Thanks for sharing.

I love chilled out guitar music, especially when it has that powerful, uplifting quality to it like this piece.

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Originally Posted By Dominik
Awesome. Love it. I remember him saying Surfing with the Alien made a big impact on him early on.

This is how you do an EVH tribute...



What I'll always remember about Ed is at a time when a lot of guitarists were taking themselves ways too seriously pouting and doing Blue Steel poses he always looked like he was having a great time.
Been trying to find time to watch that. I like Ben's videos. They've been helping me a good bit lately.
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Originally Posted By rollerball
Tours over for us pick-users boyos, what's the point of using a plectrum when you can get tone like this and be able to tackle string crossing in a way no pick user could really hope to compete with.

brb having filthy long ass nails.. no thanks i'd rather suck at guitar 350% srs
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You're a liar if you wouldn't grow your nails to play like that 😆😆😆

One of my good friends is really good fingerstyle and his nails are not noticeably long.
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Originally Posted By rollerball
Tours over for us pick-users boyos, what's the point of using a plectrum when you can get tone like this and be able to tackle string crossing in a way no pick user could really hope to compete with.
Maybe it's a thing these days and I'm not aware but what's up with ripping off licks? There's a famous Steve Lukather Rosanna lick in there and not inspired either but note for note.

He does the same thing with a descending Martin Miller lick around 40s below. Incredible technique of course but the AH track sounds more like Gambale mixed with Guthrie Govan.

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Originally Posted By MBisonSon
You're a liar if you wouldn't grow your nails to play like that

One of my good friends is really good fingerstyle and his nails are not noticeably long.
Ya obviously, I would chop off my fingers to play like that
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Originally Posted By rollerball
Nice ears, Dom. I'd wear my influences on my sleeve boldly too though if I could easily rip off fusion licks like that note-for-note during improvisations.
His chops are amazing. Makes it all look effortless, especially the way he slips in and out of tapping.

It takes some serious commitment to go all in with a technique like that. Like Stanley Jordan back in the early 80s with the two handed tapping long before it was a thing. I guess it starts with a moment of "is this possible?" and then you've got to wait years to find out.

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Mindblowing how he takes what Gambale's spent his career doing and reduces it to what is for him a simple exercise.

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Originally Posted By Dominik
His chops are amazing. Makes it all look effortless, especially the way he slips in and out of tapping.

It takes some serious commitment to go all in with a technique like that. Like Stanley Jordan back in the early 80s with the two handed tapping long before it was a thing. I guess it starts with a moment of "is this possible?" and then you've got to wait years to find out.

Yeah he really did go all in. That's not for me, but he is amazing at it. I think when other guitarists are starting to tap with 8 fingers you enter the realm of playing shapes and not notes. You might as well play the piano. Max I do with tapping is 6 fingers. Left hand and middle+ring on right, that's enough to do whatever I want with tapping.

I actually was frustrated the other day while I jammed for 30min over some tunes with some muscle memory patterns kicking in. I was deliberately trying to phrase in a way I normally don't but my fingers felt the urge to play the usual tricks/approaches. I am now reading up and learning new songs from different genres to try discover some new phrasings. I hate it when I start playing default passages, I get bored quickly - and I get bored listening to players who do the same.

You can't avoid it totally but you should try limit it to minimum 2/3 of your playing being programmed playing with slight variations. You can mix note groupings up but you really need to get your fingers to approach phrasing differently. One good exercise I do is I pick 4 notes and I only have those 4 notes. I am allow to bend, slide into, tap, harmonics, hybrid pick anything I want as long as it's those 4 notes. If you can play interestingly enough for 60 seconds like that then you're in a good spot.

Back to Stanley it's crazy how far back he was playing like this. I love this video too:



He would have that Holdsworth "I see every note at the same time on the fretboard" ability.
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Originally Posted By rollerball
Yeah I feel at this point that I also need new licks and riffs. I play the same **** over and over but I have also not bothered to really learn new stuff for awhile. Any new stuff I do learn tends to be styles or licks/riffs that I'm already comfortable with so I haven't grown musically.

More and more I find myself gravitating towards fusion and jazz players while ironically not actually being able to play either style. I realize, for me, that the only way out of this rut is to actually force myself to start transcribing jazz solos and really getting those lines underneath my fingers and getting a better sense of being able to play over changes. But this is also a lot more work than just learning an easy shred solo from a 90s thrash album so my procrastination persists.


Start by transcribing the solo on this :P

Then maybe this:



At 3:55.
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Originally Posted By rollerball
Tours over for us pick-users boyos, what's the point of using a plectrum when you can get tone like this and be able to tackle string crossing in a way no pick user could really hope to compete with.

yall gonna call me a hater but I think using a muter at the 0 fret a crutch
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Originally Posted By SekkendSyklye
yall gonna call me a hater but I think using a muter at the 0 fret a crutch
It's impossible to play with a pizzicato technique and mute the overtones while using distortion.
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Originally Posted By z4v4
It's impossible to play with a pizzicato technique and mute the overtones while using distortion.
not impossible, plus that is very slightly overdriven not full distortion
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Originally Posted By SekkendSyklye
not impossible
The only way would be to have a moving right hand thumb like 6-string bass players do, and that would sound like **** when it's rubbing against the strings moving from high strings to low strings and vice versa with distortion.

Anyone who has done any 8-finger tapping has had to solve this problem. Anything else sounds like ****, and it would also require him to completely change the classical pizzicato technique.
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im just sayin its less impressive using a crutch like that
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Originally Posted By SekkendSyklye
im just sayin its less impressive using a crutch like that
When plectrum players do, yes, as there is no reason. Back in the 80's, you'd get shot using a sock or something over the nut. That was part of shred guitar - the string damping aspects.

Most of the time when he's playing he's muting - it's only when he switches hand position to traditional i/m where he needs the muter, so it's whatever. It's not a crutch, though, it's just cheating.
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yo am I the only one drillin' paganini 24 in this thread? cant get it outta my head
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Originally Posted By z4v4
When plectrum players do, yes, as there is no reason. Back in the 80's, you'd get shot using a sock or something over the nut. That was part of shred guitar - the string damping aspects.

Most of the time when he's playing he's muting - it's only when he switches hand position to traditional i/m where he needs the muter, so it's whatever. It's not a crutch, though, it's just cheating.
In some cases there is no other way. When you use a lot of drive and play loud it's impossible to tap without that sock.
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Originally Posted By EoR
I actually was frustrated the other day while I jammed for 30min over some tunes with some muscle memory patterns kicking in. I was deliberately trying to phrase in a way I normally don't but my fingers felt the urge to play the usual tricks/approaches. I am now reading up and learning new songs from different genres to try discover some new phrasings. I hate it when I start playing default passages, I get bored quickly - and I get bored listening to players who do the same.

You can't avoid it totally but you should try limit it to minimum 2/3 of your playing being programmed playing with slight variations. You can mix note groupings up but you really need to get your fingers to approach phrasing differently. One good exercise I do is I pick 4 notes and I only have those 4 notes. I am allow to bend, slide into, tap, harmonics, hybrid pick anything I want as long as it's those 4 notes. If you can play interestingly enough for 60 seconds like that then you're in a good spot.
Great advice. It's been a long time since I've structured my practice and doing whatever you feel like can waste a lot of time. Years pass and you're playing 90% of the same stuff. That's why I think it's really important to write music and record it somewhere regardless of whether anyone ever hears it. That way you're at least stockpiling musical ideas instead of just wanking notes into the ether.
Originally Posted By SekkendSyklye
im just sayin its less impressive using a crutch like that
For me it's all about the end result so I don't really care if he drapes a piece of cloth over the strings to make it sound cleaner. z4v4 is right that back in the 80s it would have looked weird but then not everything from the 80s has aged well.

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