Thread: What books changed you?
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What books changed you?
Reading atlas shrugged right now and it’s making me see from the perspective of a capitalist and how the weak create bureaucratic red tape to keep people with drive from succeeding.
Used to lean towards social improvement but I don’t think people are worth helping anymore. Are the richest person people just the strongest and it has nothing to do with greed?
Total perspective shift. Anyone experience something similar?
Used to lean towards social improvement but I don’t think people are worth helping anymore. Are the richest person people just the strongest and it has nothing to do with greed?
Total perspective shift. Anyone experience something similar?
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Originally Posted By Rajc⏩
I’ve read some of it but it doesn’t really have a plot line. It’s just kind of his cliffs on life which is cool.marcus aurelius meditations
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You'd think Hemingway wrote this


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Book of 5 rings, great mindsets to apply to any skill.
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1. The Art of the Deal - Donald Trump
2. Swim with the Sharks - Harvey Mackay
3. Beware the Naked Man Who Offers You His Shirt - Harvey Mackay
4. Bogle on Mutual Funds - John Bogle
5. Think and Grow Rich - Napoleon Hill
6. The Only Investment Guide You'll Ever Need - Andrew Tobias
7. Die Broke - Stephen Pollan and Mark Levine
8. The Millionaire Next Door - Thomas Stanley
9. Den of Thieves - James B. Stewart
10. Monkey Business - John Rolfe and Peter Troob
11. Inside Out - Dennis Levine
12. Confessions of a Street Trader - Jim Cramer
13. Liar's Poker - Michael Lewis
14. King Icahn - Mark Stevens
15. Bringing Down the House - Ben Mezrich
16. The Zeroes - Randall Lane
17. The Predators' Ball - Connie Bruck
18. Only the Paranoid Survive - Andy Grove
19. F.I.A.S.C.O. : The Inside Story of a Wall Street Trader - Frank Partnoy
20. Who Moved My Cheese? - Spencer Johnson and Ken Blanchard
21. How to Win Friends and Influence People - Dale Carnegie
22. The Art of War - Sun Tzu
23. The Prince - Machiavelli
24. The Metrosexual Guide to Style - Michael Flocker
25. The Dirt - Motley Crue
26. You Can Negotiate Anything - Herb Cohen
27. Private Parts - Howard Stern
28. Miss America - Howard Stern
29. The Way Things Ought To Be - Rush Limbaugh
30. See I Told You So - Rush Limbaugh
31. Rich Dad, Poor Dad - Robert Kiyosaki
32. On the Firing Line: My 500 Days at Apple - Gil Amelio
33. The Road Ahead - Bill Gates
2. Swim with the Sharks - Harvey Mackay
3. Beware the Naked Man Who Offers You His Shirt - Harvey Mackay
4. Bogle on Mutual Funds - John Bogle
5. Think and Grow Rich - Napoleon Hill
6. The Only Investment Guide You'll Ever Need - Andrew Tobias
7. Die Broke - Stephen Pollan and Mark Levine
8. The Millionaire Next Door - Thomas Stanley
9. Den of Thieves - James B. Stewart
10. Monkey Business - John Rolfe and Peter Troob
11. Inside Out - Dennis Levine
12. Confessions of a Street Trader - Jim Cramer
13. Liar's Poker - Michael Lewis
14. King Icahn - Mark Stevens
15. Bringing Down the House - Ben Mezrich
16. The Zeroes - Randall Lane
17. The Predators' Ball - Connie Bruck
18. Only the Paranoid Survive - Andy Grove
19. F.I.A.S.C.O. : The Inside Story of a Wall Street Trader - Frank Partnoy
20. Who Moved My Cheese? - Spencer Johnson and Ken Blanchard
21. How to Win Friends and Influence People - Dale Carnegie
22. The Art of War - Sun Tzu
23. The Prince - Machiavelli
24. The Metrosexual Guide to Style - Michael Flocker
25. The Dirt - Motley Crue
26. You Can Negotiate Anything - Herb Cohen
27. Private Parts - Howard Stern
28. Miss America - Howard Stern
29. The Way Things Ought To Be - Rush Limbaugh
30. See I Told You So - Rush Limbaugh
31. Rich Dad, Poor Dad - Robert Kiyosaki
32. On the Firing Line: My 500 Days at Apple - Gil Amelio
33. The Road Ahead - Bill Gates
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Originally Posted By ErnieMccracken⏩
Hemingway is alright I’ve read almost all his work but he’s over glorified by manlets trying to prove they aren’t manlets because they read Hemingway.You'd think Hemingway wrote this


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Originally Posted By GordonXXX⏩
Will try a few of these. Interested in cramers ability to keep a train of thought through an entire book.1. The Art of the Deal - Donald Trump
2. Swim with the Sharks - Harvey Mackay
3. Beware the Naked Man Who Offers You His Shirt - Harvey Mackay
4. Bogle on Mutual Funds - John Bogle
5. Think and Grow Rich - Napoleon Hill
6. The Only Investment Guide You'll Ever Need - Andrew Tobias
7. Die Broke - Stephen Pollan and Mark Levine
8. The Millionaire Next Door - Thomas Stanley
9. Den of Thieves - James B. Stewart
10. Monkey Business - John Rolfe and Peter Troob
11. Inside Out - Dennis Levine
12. Confessions of a Street Trader - Jim Cramer
13. Liar's Poker - Michael Lewis
14. King Icahn - Mark Stevens
15. Bringing Down the House - Ben Mezrich
16. The Zeroes - Randall Lane
17. The Predators' Ball - Connie Bruck
18. Only the Paranoid Survive - Andy Grove
19. F.I.A.S.C.O. : The Inside Story of a Wall Street Trader - Frank Partnoy
20. Who Moved My Cheese? - Spencer Johnson and Ken Blanchard
21. How to Win Friends and Influence People - Dale Carnegie
22. The Art of War - Sun Tzu
23. The Prince - Machiavelli
24. The Metrosexual Guide to Style - Michael Flocker
25. The Dirt - Motley Crue
26. You Can Negotiate Anything - Herb Cohen
27. Private Parts - Howard Stern
28. Miss America - Howard Stern
29. The Way Things Ought To Be - Rush Limbaugh
30. See I Told You So - Rush Limbaugh
31. Rich Dad, Poor Dad - Robert Kiyosaki
32. On the Firing Line: My 500 Days at Apple - Gil Amelio
33. The Road Ahead - Bill Gates
2. Swim with the Sharks - Harvey Mackay
3. Beware the Naked Man Who Offers You His Shirt - Harvey Mackay
4. Bogle on Mutual Funds - John Bogle
5. Think and Grow Rich - Napoleon Hill
6. The Only Investment Guide You'll Ever Need - Andrew Tobias
7. Die Broke - Stephen Pollan and Mark Levine
8. The Millionaire Next Door - Thomas Stanley
9. Den of Thieves - James B. Stewart
10. Monkey Business - John Rolfe and Peter Troob
11. Inside Out - Dennis Levine
12. Confessions of a Street Trader - Jim Cramer
13. Liar's Poker - Michael Lewis
14. King Icahn - Mark Stevens
15. Bringing Down the House - Ben Mezrich
16. The Zeroes - Randall Lane
17. The Predators' Ball - Connie Bruck
18. Only the Paranoid Survive - Andy Grove
19. F.I.A.S.C.O. : The Inside Story of a Wall Street Trader - Frank Partnoy
20. Who Moved My Cheese? - Spencer Johnson and Ken Blanchard
21. How to Win Friends and Influence People - Dale Carnegie
22. The Art of War - Sun Tzu
23. The Prince - Machiavelli
24. The Metrosexual Guide to Style - Michael Flocker
25. The Dirt - Motley Crue
26. You Can Negotiate Anything - Herb Cohen
27. Private Parts - Howard Stern
28. Miss America - Howard Stern
29. The Way Things Ought To Be - Rush Limbaugh
30. See I Told You So - Rush Limbaugh
31. Rich Dad, Poor Dad - Robert Kiyosaki
32. On the Firing Line: My 500 Days at Apple - Gil Amelio
33. The Road Ahead - Bill Gates
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Look out! Freshman 2020Visionz is about to bring a new world of hurt to your local ethics class.
2020Visionz, popularly known in his high school as “the fedora kid”, was reportedly pumped to spew some quotes from Ayn Rand’s magnum opus of philosophical fiction: Atlas Shrugged. His goal? To prove to everyone why objectivism is the only valid way of living, and why you would be a complete and utter knuckle-dragger to think otherwise.
“Come on, guys,” 2020Visionz said, stroking his greasy chin. “I already figured all of this out when I was in ninth grade!”
No matter what the discussion topic of the day is, 2020Visionz makes sure to shoehorn in a few tenets from Rand’s philosophical framework built on reason, self-interest, and capitalism.
“Cassie, I think that was a good point you made about the failures of our education system to promote social equity, but did you know that ‘thou shalt not be thy brother’s keeper?’” 2020Visionz said, his lips beginning to form into the shape of a smirk.
Unfortunately, 2020Visionz has accrued somewhat of a poor reputation for his overbearing demeanor, as well as being one of the few people alive who actually finished reading Atlas Shrugged.
“They fear me, that’s all,” 2020Visionz retorted, taking a puff on his handheld vaporizer. “They fear what they can’t understand.”
Although 2020Visionz’s professor praised the assertive libertarian energy the freshman brings to every class, he does have some reservations about his radical beliefs.
“It’s great to have somebody that isn’t afraid to speak up and share their thoughts with everyone,” Professor Gustav commented. “But his desire to build a thriving transcontinental railroad and free America from the shackles of big government alongside a cabal of free-thinking business magnates isn’t really appropriate for this class.”
For now, 2020Visionz has refused to reconsider his ideology, and promises to spread the word of Rand to those willing and unwilling to listen to him.
“When the entire world’s bearing down on you, like it was on the shoulders of the great titan Atlas, what can one do... ” 2020Visionz mused with a tip of his hat. “Except… shrug?”
2020Visionz, popularly known in his high school as “the fedora kid”, was reportedly pumped to spew some quotes from Ayn Rand’s magnum opus of philosophical fiction: Atlas Shrugged. His goal? To prove to everyone why objectivism is the only valid way of living, and why you would be a complete and utter knuckle-dragger to think otherwise.
“Come on, guys,” 2020Visionz said, stroking his greasy chin. “I already figured all of this out when I was in ninth grade!”
No matter what the discussion topic of the day is, 2020Visionz makes sure to shoehorn in a few tenets from Rand’s philosophical framework built on reason, self-interest, and capitalism.
“Cassie, I think that was a good point you made about the failures of our education system to promote social equity, but did you know that ‘thou shalt not be thy brother’s keeper?’” 2020Visionz said, his lips beginning to form into the shape of a smirk.
Unfortunately, 2020Visionz has accrued somewhat of a poor reputation for his overbearing demeanor, as well as being one of the few people alive who actually finished reading Atlas Shrugged.
“They fear me, that’s all,” 2020Visionz retorted, taking a puff on his handheld vaporizer. “They fear what they can’t understand.”
Although 2020Visionz’s professor praised the assertive libertarian energy the freshman brings to every class, he does have some reservations about his radical beliefs.
“It’s great to have somebody that isn’t afraid to speak up and share their thoughts with everyone,” Professor Gustav commented. “But his desire to build a thriving transcontinental railroad and free America from the shackles of big government alongside a cabal of free-thinking business magnates isn’t really appropriate for this class.”
For now, 2020Visionz has refused to reconsider his ideology, and promises to spread the word of Rand to those willing and unwilling to listen to him.
“When the entire world’s bearing down on you, like it was on the shoulders of the great titan Atlas, what can one do... ” 2020Visionz mused with a tip of his hat. “Except… shrug?”
“The Misc. is a stone-faced Uncle Sam with Popeye’s forearms and a cocked pistol in each hand. It’s a screeching bald eagle with a foreign Bad Thing in its talons. It’s everything that defines America’s bro culture, magnified and weaponized. But it’s deeper than that.“
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Originally Posted By 2020visionz⏩
Listen/Read Cramer for entertainment purposes only.Will try a few of these. Interested in cramers ability to keep a train of thought through an entire book.
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Reading Jordan peterson 12 rules now. Like it & has helped me to think more positive.
How to let go of worry & start living life
Reading Jordan peterson 12 rules now. Like it & has helped me to think more positive.
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Originally Posted By GordonXXX⏩
Any books including a conrete guide on investing?1. The Art of the Deal - Donald Trump
2. Swim with the Sharks - Harvey Mackay
3. Beware the Naked Man Who Offers You His Shirt - Harvey Mackay
4. Bogle on Mutual Funds - John Bogle
5. Think and Grow Rich - Napoleon Hill
6. The Only Investment Guide You'll Ever Need - Andrew Tobias
7. Die Broke - Stephen Pollan and Mark Levine
8. The Millionaire Next Door - Thomas Stanley
9. Den of Thieves - James B. Stewart
10. Monkey Business - John Rolfe and Peter Troob
11. Inside Out - Dennis Levine
12. Confessions of a Street Trader - Jim Cramer
13. Liar's Poker - Michael Lewis
14. King Icahn - Mark Stevens
15. Bringing Down the House - Ben Mezrich
16. The Zeroes - Randall Lane
17. The Predators' Ball - Connie Bruck
18. Only the Paranoid Survive - Andy Grove
19. F.I.A.S.C.O. : The Inside Story of a Wall Street Trader - Frank Partnoy
20. Who Moved My Cheese? - Spencer Johnson and Ken Blanchard
21. How to Win Friends and Influence People - Dale Carnegie
22. The Art of War - Sun Tzu
23. The Prince - Machiavelli
24. The Metrosexual Guide to Style - Michael Flocker
25. The Dirt - Motley Crue
26. You Can Negotiate Anything - Herb Cohen
27. Private Parts - Howard Stern
28. Miss America - Howard Stern
29. The Way Things Ought To Be - Rush Limbaugh
30. See I Told You So - Rush Limbaugh
31. Rich Dad, Poor Dad - Robert Kiyosaki
32. On the Firing Line: My 500 Days at Apple - Gil Amelio
33. The Road Ahead - Bill Gates
2. Swim with the Sharks - Harvey Mackay
3. Beware the Naked Man Who Offers You His Shirt - Harvey Mackay
4. Bogle on Mutual Funds - John Bogle
5. Think and Grow Rich - Napoleon Hill
6. The Only Investment Guide You'll Ever Need - Andrew Tobias
7. Die Broke - Stephen Pollan and Mark Levine
8. The Millionaire Next Door - Thomas Stanley
9. Den of Thieves - James B. Stewart
10. Monkey Business - John Rolfe and Peter Troob
11. Inside Out - Dennis Levine
12. Confessions of a Street Trader - Jim Cramer
13. Liar's Poker - Michael Lewis
14. King Icahn - Mark Stevens
15. Bringing Down the House - Ben Mezrich
16. The Zeroes - Randall Lane
17. The Predators' Ball - Connie Bruck
18. Only the Paranoid Survive - Andy Grove
19. F.I.A.S.C.O. : The Inside Story of a Wall Street Trader - Frank Partnoy
20. Who Moved My Cheese? - Spencer Johnson and Ken Blanchard
21. How to Win Friends and Influence People - Dale Carnegie
22. The Art of War - Sun Tzu
23. The Prince - Machiavelli
24. The Metrosexual Guide to Style - Michael Flocker
25. The Dirt - Motley Crue
26. You Can Negotiate Anything - Herb Cohen
27. Private Parts - Howard Stern
28. Miss America - Howard Stern
29. The Way Things Ought To Be - Rush Limbaugh
30. See I Told You So - Rush Limbaugh
31. Rich Dad, Poor Dad - Robert Kiyosaki
32. On the Firing Line: My 500 Days at Apple - Gil Amelio
33. The Road Ahead - Bill Gates
I read rich dad/poor dad and it was mostly some self-important story without much actual content. I would like something more practical.
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Originally Posted By HYDRAE⏩
Lmao, keep that for miscers actually named after characters from the book.Look out! Freshman 2020Visionz is about to bring a new world of hurt to your local ethics class.
2020Visionz, popularly known in his high school as “the fedora kid”, was reportedly pumped to spew some quotes from Ayn Rand’s magnum opus of philosophical fiction: Atlas Shrugged. His goal? To prove to everyone why objectivism is the only valid way of living, and why you would be a complete and utter knuckle-dragger to think otherwise.
“Come on, guys,” 2020Visionz said, stroking his greasy chin. “I already figured all of this out when I was in ninth grade!”
No matter what the discussion topic of the day is, 2020Visionz makes sure to shoehorn in a few tenets from Rand’s philosophical framework built on reason, self-interest, and capitalism.
“Cassie, I think that was a good point you made about the failures of our education system to promote social equity, but did you know that ‘thou shalt not be thy brother’s keeper?’” 2020Visionz said, his lips beginning to form into the shape of a smirk.
Unfortunately, 2020Visionz has accrued somewhat of a poor reputation for his overbearing demeanor, as well as being one of the few people alive who actually finished reading Atlas Shrugged.
“They fear me, that’s all,” 2020Visionz retorted, taking a puff on his handheld vaporizer. “They fear what they can’t understand.”
Although 2020Visionz’s professor praised the assertive libertarian energy the freshman brings to every class, he does have some reservations about his radical beliefs.
“It’s great to have somebody that isn’t afraid to speak up and share their thoughts with everyone,” Professor Gustav commented. “But his desire to build a thriving transcontinental railroad and free America from the shackles of big government alongside a cabal of free-thinking business magnates isn’t really appropriate for this class.”
For now, 2020Visionz has refused to reconsider his ideology, and promises to spread the word of Rand to those willing and unwilling to listen to him.
“When the entire world’s bearing down on you, like it was on the shoulders of the great titan Atlas, what can one do... ” 2020Visionz mused with a tip of his hat. “Except… shrug?”
2020Visionz, popularly known in his high school as “the fedora kid”, was reportedly pumped to spew some quotes from Ayn Rand’s magnum opus of philosophical fiction: Atlas Shrugged. His goal? To prove to everyone why objectivism is the only valid way of living, and why you would be a complete and utter knuckle-dragger to think otherwise.
“Come on, guys,” 2020Visionz said, stroking his greasy chin. “I already figured all of this out when I was in ninth grade!”
No matter what the discussion topic of the day is, 2020Visionz makes sure to shoehorn in a few tenets from Rand’s philosophical framework built on reason, self-interest, and capitalism.
“Cassie, I think that was a good point you made about the failures of our education system to promote social equity, but did you know that ‘thou shalt not be thy brother’s keeper?’” 2020Visionz said, his lips beginning to form into the shape of a smirk.
Unfortunately, 2020Visionz has accrued somewhat of a poor reputation for his overbearing demeanor, as well as being one of the few people alive who actually finished reading Atlas Shrugged.
“They fear me, that’s all,” 2020Visionz retorted, taking a puff on his handheld vaporizer. “They fear what they can’t understand.”
Although 2020Visionz’s professor praised the assertive libertarian energy the freshman brings to every class, he does have some reservations about his radical beliefs.
“It’s great to have somebody that isn’t afraid to speak up and share their thoughts with everyone,” Professor Gustav commented. “But his desire to build a thriving transcontinental railroad and free America from the shackles of big government alongside a cabal of free-thinking business magnates isn’t really appropriate for this class.”
For now, 2020Visionz has refused to reconsider his ideology, and promises to spread the word of Rand to those willing and unwilling to listen to him.
“When the entire world’s bearing down on you, like it was on the shoulders of the great titan Atlas, what can one do... ” 2020Visionz mused with a tip of his hat. “Except… shrug?”
@ OP make shure you don't end up like the dude from that story.
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Originally Posted By HYDRAE⏩
Didn’t read passed the first paragraph *******. Thanks for taking the time to try and scapegoat me though.Look out! Freshman 2020Visionz is about to bring a new world of hurt to your local ethics class.
2020Visionz, popularly known in his high school as “the fedora kid”, was reportedly pumped to spew some quotes from Ayn Rand’s magnum opus of philosophical fiction: Atlas Shrugged. His goal? To prove to everyone why objectivism is the only valid way of living, and why you would be a complete and utter knuckle-dragger to think otherwise.
“Come on, guys,” 2020Visionz said, stroking his greasy chin. “I already figured all of this out when I was in ninth grade!”
No matter what the discussion topic of the day is, 2020Visionz makes sure to shoehorn in a few tenets from Rand’s philosophical framework built on reason, self-interest, and capitalism.
“Cassie, I think that was a good point you made about the failures of our education system to promote social equity, but did you know that ‘thou shalt not be thy brother’s keeper?’” 2020Visionz said, his lips beginning to form into the shape of a smirk.
Unfortunately, 2020Visionz has accrued somewhat of a poor reputation for his overbearing demeanor, as well as being one of the few people alive who actually finished reading Atlas Shrugged.
“They fear me, that’s all,” 2020Visionz retorted, taking a puff on his handheld vaporizer. “They fear what they can’t understand.”
Although 2020Visionz’s professor praised the assertive libertarian energy the freshman brings to every class, he does have some reservations about his radical beliefs.
“It’s great to have somebody that isn’t afraid to speak up and share their thoughts with everyone,” Professor Gustav commented. “But his desire to build a thriving transcontinental railroad and free America from the shackles of big government alongside a cabal of free-thinking business magnates isn’t really appropriate for this class.”
For now, 2020Visionz has refused to reconsider his ideology, and promises to spread the word of Rand to those willing and unwilling to listen to him.
“When the entire world’s bearing down on you, like it was on the shoulders of the great titan Atlas, what can one do... ” 2020Visionz mused with a tip of his hat. “Except… shrug?”
2020Visionz, popularly known in his high school as “the fedora kid”, was reportedly pumped to spew some quotes from Ayn Rand’s magnum opus of philosophical fiction: Atlas Shrugged. His goal? To prove to everyone why objectivism is the only valid way of living, and why you would be a complete and utter knuckle-dragger to think otherwise.
“Come on, guys,” 2020Visionz said, stroking his greasy chin. “I already figured all of this out when I was in ninth grade!”
No matter what the discussion topic of the day is, 2020Visionz makes sure to shoehorn in a few tenets from Rand’s philosophical framework built on reason, self-interest, and capitalism.
“Cassie, I think that was a good point you made about the failures of our education system to promote social equity, but did you know that ‘thou shalt not be thy brother’s keeper?’” 2020Visionz said, his lips beginning to form into the shape of a smirk.
Unfortunately, 2020Visionz has accrued somewhat of a poor reputation for his overbearing demeanor, as well as being one of the few people alive who actually finished reading Atlas Shrugged.
“They fear me, that’s all,” 2020Visionz retorted, taking a puff on his handheld vaporizer. “They fear what they can’t understand.”
Although 2020Visionz’s professor praised the assertive libertarian energy the freshman brings to every class, he does have some reservations about his radical beliefs.
“It’s great to have somebody that isn’t afraid to speak up and share their thoughts with everyone,” Professor Gustav commented. “But his desire to build a thriving transcontinental railroad and free America from the shackles of big government alongside a cabal of free-thinking business magnates isn’t really appropriate for this class.”
For now, 2020Visionz has refused to reconsider his ideology, and promises to spread the word of Rand to those willing and unwilling to listen to him.
“When the entire world’s bearing down on you, like it was on the shoulders of the great titan Atlas, what can one do... ” 2020Visionz mused with a tip of his hat. “Except… shrug?”
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Originally Posted By GordonXXX⏩
Is the book coherent? I watched an interview he did in the 90s where he laid out his experience rigging the stock market as a hedge fund manager. So I don’t trust his mad money chit or any fundamentals he preaches.Listen/Read Cramer for entertainment purposes only.
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Originally Posted By I3igAl⏩
I highly recommend investing with no knowledge and a small sum of money. $100 vs $1m it’s the same concept, up until you actually influence markets which takes billions.Any books including a conrete guide on investing?
I read rich dad/poor dad and it was mostly some self-important story without much actual content. I would like something more practical.
I read rich dad/poor dad and it was mostly some self-important story without much actual content. I would like something more practical.
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Originally Posted By 2020visionz⏩
Already doing that. Would be cool to have some more comprehensive guides.I highly recommend investing with no knowledge and a small sum of money. $100 vs $1m it’s the same concept, up until you actually influence markets which takes billions.
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Originally Posted By I3igAl⏩
IMO - the only thing you need to know about investing is this -Any books including a conrete guide on investing?
I read rich dad/poor dad and it was mostly some self-important story without much actual content. I would like something more practical.
I read rich dad/poor dad and it was mostly some self-important story without much actual content. I would like something more practical.
1. 70% - VFIAX, 30% - VWLUX and/or VBTLX
2. Don't buy all at once - dollar cost average forever - Pay Yourself First - Use Auto-Invest Every Month. Set it and Forget It.
3. Hold forever or at least 10+ years.
4. Buy Direct from Vanguard. No Advisor Needed.
5. Keep some Emergency Cash on Hand - 6-12 Months of Living Expenses or Whatever Amount Helps You Sleep.
6. Realize there's no special secret or magic. It's Not Rocket Science. Investing is Simple. Saving is Hard for Many.
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Originally Posted By 2020visionz⏩
Cramer's "Confessions" Book is very readable, coherent, entertaining IMO. The expose book "Trading With The Enemy" by Nicholas Maier is really good if you can find an OG vintage copy. I forgot that one on my list!Is the book coherent? I watched an interview he did in the 90s where he laid out his experience rigging the stock market as a hedge fund manager. So I don’t trust his mad money chit or any fundamentals he preaches.
https://www.amazon.com/Trading-Enemy.../dp/0060086513
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*m'lady*Didn’t read passed the first paragraph *******. Thanks for taking the time to try and scapegoat me though.
“The Misc. is a stone-faced Uncle Sam with Popeye’s forearms and a cocked pistol in each hand. It’s a screeching bald eagle with a foreign Bad Thing in its talons. It’s everything that defines America’s bro culture, magnified and weaponized. But it’s deeper than that.“
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Rich Dad, Poor Dad
1. The poor and the middle class work for money. The rich have money work for them.
2. Rich people acquire assets. The poor and the middle class acquire liabilities, but they think they are assets. An asset is something that puts money in your pocket, a liability is something that takes money out of your pocket. The rich buy assets and the poor only have expenses.
3. Poor people buy liabilities to look rich. Rich people buy assets to get richer.
4. The rich get richer because they continue to do things that make them richer. The poor get poorer because they continue to do things that make them poorer.
5. Rich people learn how to manage risk. Poor people are afraid of risk.
6. An intelligent person surrounds himself with people who are more intelligent than he is.
7. Wealth is accurately measured by a person’s ability to survive so many number of days forward without working. Or stated another way: If you stopped working today, how long could you survive? Wealth is determined by Net Worth, NOT by income. You can have a huge income, but still be poor.
8. You can never be too rich.
9. Rich people buy luxuries last, while the poor and middle class buy them first. Assets buy luxuries.
10. Once a dollar goes into your asset column, never let it out. It becomes your employee. The best thing about money is that it works 24 hours a day.
11. A house is not an asset - it is a liability. It produces no income, only expenses. (Mortgage, Interest, Taxes, Insurance, Maintenance, Utilities, Furnishings). Don’t be “House Rich and Cash Poor”.
12. Building wealth is like planting a tree. You water it for years and then its roots grow deep enough that it takes care of itself. Then it provides you a nice shade to rest under and it takes care of you.
13. A true luxury is a reward for investing in and developing a real asset. Buy yourself nice luxuries but make sure you have earned them and can pay for them first.
14. Rich people invent money.
15. Great opportunities are not seen with your eyes but with your mind.
16. Many people are one skill away from great wealth.
17. Rich people talk about money and learn from other rich people. The poor do not.
18. Don’t let life or people push you around. Don’t quit. Fight!
19. Don’t blindly follow the “conventional wisdom”. Have the courage to “go against the flow”.
20. It’s not what you make that counts, but what you save and invest.
21. Don’t listen to poor or frightened people.
22. Master a formula and learn a new one.
23. Rich people take advantage of economic downturns. Rich people take advantage of opportunities.
24. Rich people don’t make excuses for their financial success or failure.
25. Mind your own business. Think of your household as your own business. Profit vs. Loss and Assets vs. Liabilities. It’s “You, Inc.”.
26. Advice for those of you in debt: If you find that you have dug yourself into a hole, STOP DIGGING!
27. He who has the gold makes the rules. The rich make the rules.
28. Money comes and goes, but if you have the education about how money works, you gain power over it and can begin building wealth. The reason positive thinking alone does not work is because most people went to school but never learned how money works, so they spend their lives working for money instead of having money work for them.
29. Don’t turn yourself into a slave to money and liabilities. Choose power and freedom.
30. You always want to make sure you’ll be cash-flow positive in any prospective real estate investment. Your rents collected should always, at minimum, cover your mortgage and expenses even while you’re building equity.
31. Investments typically fall into two groups: they either eat you or they feed you. Whenever you consider an investment, ask yourself if it will eat you or feed you.
Rich Dad, Poor Dad: What the Rich Teach Their Kids About Money--That the Poor and Middle Class Do Not! - Robert T. Kiyosaki, Sharon L. Lechter
The Millionaire Next Door
1. They live well below their means.
2. They allocate their time, energy, and money efficiently, in ways conducive to building wealth.
3. They believe that financial independence is much more important than displaying high social status.
4. They do not chase status symbols.
5. They minimize their realized (taxable) income and short-term capital gains and investment costs and they maximize their unrealized income and long-term capital gains. (Tax-Free Money Market Funds, Tax-Free Bond Funds, Tax-Efficient, Low Cost, Diversified Stock Index Mutual Funds, and Retirement Accounts).
6. They systematically “pay themselves first”.
7. They chose the right occupation.
8. Their parents do/did not provide economic outpatient care.
9. Their adult children are economically self-sufficient.
10. They are proficient in targeting marketing opportunities.
11. They buy their cars and drive them for a long time. They believe that you AREN’T what you drive.
12. They never purchase a home that requires a mortgage that is more than twice their household’s total annual realized income.
13. They are their own favorite charity.
14. They pay cash and avoid debt.
The Millionaire Next Door: The Surprising Secrets of America’s Wealthy - Thomas J. Stanley, William D. Danko
1. The poor and the middle class work for money. The rich have money work for them.
2. Rich people acquire assets. The poor and the middle class acquire liabilities, but they think they are assets. An asset is something that puts money in your pocket, a liability is something that takes money out of your pocket. The rich buy assets and the poor only have expenses.
3. Poor people buy liabilities to look rich. Rich people buy assets to get richer.
4. The rich get richer because they continue to do things that make them richer. The poor get poorer because they continue to do things that make them poorer.
5. Rich people learn how to manage risk. Poor people are afraid of risk.
6. An intelligent person surrounds himself with people who are more intelligent than he is.
7. Wealth is accurately measured by a person’s ability to survive so many number of days forward without working. Or stated another way: If you stopped working today, how long could you survive? Wealth is determined by Net Worth, NOT by income. You can have a huge income, but still be poor.
8. You can never be too rich.
9. Rich people buy luxuries last, while the poor and middle class buy them first. Assets buy luxuries.
10. Once a dollar goes into your asset column, never let it out. It becomes your employee. The best thing about money is that it works 24 hours a day.
11. A house is not an asset - it is a liability. It produces no income, only expenses. (Mortgage, Interest, Taxes, Insurance, Maintenance, Utilities, Furnishings). Don’t be “House Rich and Cash Poor”.
12. Building wealth is like planting a tree. You water it for years and then its roots grow deep enough that it takes care of itself. Then it provides you a nice shade to rest under and it takes care of you.
13. A true luxury is a reward for investing in and developing a real asset. Buy yourself nice luxuries but make sure you have earned them and can pay for them first.
14. Rich people invent money.
15. Great opportunities are not seen with your eyes but with your mind.
16. Many people are one skill away from great wealth.
17. Rich people talk about money and learn from other rich people. The poor do not.
18. Don’t let life or people push you around. Don’t quit. Fight!
19. Don’t blindly follow the “conventional wisdom”. Have the courage to “go against the flow”.
20. It’s not what you make that counts, but what you save and invest.
21. Don’t listen to poor or frightened people.
22. Master a formula and learn a new one.
23. Rich people take advantage of economic downturns. Rich people take advantage of opportunities.
24. Rich people don’t make excuses for their financial success or failure.
25. Mind your own business. Think of your household as your own business. Profit vs. Loss and Assets vs. Liabilities. It’s “You, Inc.”.
26. Advice for those of you in debt: If you find that you have dug yourself into a hole, STOP DIGGING!
27. He who has the gold makes the rules. The rich make the rules.
28. Money comes and goes, but if you have the education about how money works, you gain power over it and can begin building wealth. The reason positive thinking alone does not work is because most people went to school but never learned how money works, so they spend their lives working for money instead of having money work for them.
29. Don’t turn yourself into a slave to money and liabilities. Choose power and freedom.
30. You always want to make sure you’ll be cash-flow positive in any prospective real estate investment. Your rents collected should always, at minimum, cover your mortgage and expenses even while you’re building equity.
31. Investments typically fall into two groups: they either eat you or they feed you. Whenever you consider an investment, ask yourself if it will eat you or feed you.
Rich Dad, Poor Dad: What the Rich Teach Their Kids About Money--That the Poor and Middle Class Do Not! - Robert T. Kiyosaki, Sharon L. Lechter
The Millionaire Next Door
1. They live well below their means.
2. They allocate their time, energy, and money efficiently, in ways conducive to building wealth.
3. They believe that financial independence is much more important than displaying high social status.
4. They do not chase status symbols.
5. They minimize their realized (taxable) income and short-term capital gains and investment costs and they maximize their unrealized income and long-term capital gains. (Tax-Free Money Market Funds, Tax-Free Bond Funds, Tax-Efficient, Low Cost, Diversified Stock Index Mutual Funds, and Retirement Accounts).
6. They systematically “pay themselves first”.
7. They chose the right occupation.
8. Their parents do/did not provide economic outpatient care.
9. Their adult children are economically self-sufficient.
10. They are proficient in targeting marketing opportunities.
11. They buy their cars and drive them for a long time. They believe that you AREN’T what you drive.
12. They never purchase a home that requires a mortgage that is more than twice their household’s total annual realized income.
13. They are their own favorite charity.
14. They pay cash and avoid debt.
The Millionaire Next Door: The Surprising Secrets of America’s Wealthy - Thomas J. Stanley, William D. Danko
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Right Wing Women by Andrea Dworkin.
The Gift of Fear by Gavin de Becker. I got more out of this than years of therapy. Extremely useful for dating/stalking situations, employment/workplace stuff, teasing out manipulative behavior, trusting intuition and an overall fascinating read. Very influential on how I think about situations and people who don't feel right and people who won’t let go.
The Book of Romance: What Solomon Says About Love, Sex, and Intimacy by Tommy Nelson. His sermon series on Song of Solomon is better than the book but you asked for books
Similarly, Matt Chandler's The Mingling of Souls: God's Design for Love, Sex, Marriage, and Redemption changed the way I think about romantic relationships (for the better, IMO) Both heavily evangelical but good reads for anyone.
The Gift of Fear by Gavin de Becker. I got more out of this than years of therapy. Extremely useful for dating/stalking situations, employment/workplace stuff, teasing out manipulative behavior, trusting intuition and an overall fascinating read. Very influential on how I think about situations and people who don't feel right and people who won’t let go.
The Book of Romance: What Solomon Says About Love, Sex, and Intimacy by Tommy Nelson. His sermon series on Song of Solomon is better than the book but you asked for books
Similarly, Matt Chandler's The Mingling of Souls: God's Design for Love, Sex, Marriage, and Redemption changed the way I think about romantic relationships (for the better, IMO) Both heavily evangelical but good reads for anyone.Train hard, train smart, have fun!
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Can't Hurt Me by David Goggins
Started reading it last week. Its already made me change a lot of my habits and getting into the routine of doing **** I hate doing but know is ultimately good for me (ie. reading more, practicing languages, working out more consistently).
Started reading it last week. Its already made me change a lot of my habits and getting into the routine of doing **** I hate doing but know is ultimately good for me (ie. reading more, practicing languages, working out more consistently).
♚ Middle Eastern & Mediterranean Crew ♛
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Originally Posted By GordonXXX⏩
This, we all look at the markets and wish we'd stuck £100k in KLA at the beginning of 2019 etc, but there's no way to know how things will turn out, spread and stick.IMO - the only thing you need to know about investing is this -
1. 70% - VFIAX, 30% - VWLUX and/or VBTLX
2. Don't buy all at once - dollar cost average forever - Pay Yourself First - Use Auto-Invest Every Month. Set it and Forget It.
3. Hold forever or at least 10+ years.
4. Buy Direct from Vanguard. No Advisor Needed.
5. Keep some Emergency Cash on Hand - 6-12 Months of Living Expenses or Whatever Amount Helps You Sleep.
6. Realize there's no special secret or magic. It's Not Rocket Science. Investing is Simple. Saving is Hard for Many.
1. 70% - VFIAX, 30% - VWLUX and/or VBTLX
2. Don't buy all at once - dollar cost average forever - Pay Yourself First - Use Auto-Invest Every Month. Set it and Forget It.
3. Hold forever or at least 10+ years.
4. Buy Direct from Vanguard. No Advisor Needed.
5. Keep some Emergency Cash on Hand - 6-12 Months of Living Expenses or Whatever Amount Helps You Sleep.
6. Realize there's no special secret or magic. It's Not Rocket Science. Investing is Simple. Saving is Hard for Many.
I look at investing as buying years off retirement, for every £2-3k that goes in, a year comes off retirement
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Rich Dad Poor Dad by Kiyosaki and his quadrant book got me into reading so that would be the biggest change I got from a book. It was that moment when I realized I could read what I actually was curious about. The books themselves aren't anything special though and MJ Demarco has much better books on the same topics.
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Originally Posted By GordonXXX⏩
Who Moved My Cheese should be read by every high schooler and then once again 10 years later after they settle into their job/ relationship. Great fukking book.1. The Art of the Deal - Donald Trump
2. Swim with the Sharks - Harvey Mackay
3. Beware the Naked Man Who Offers You His Shirt - Harvey Mackay
4. Bogle on Mutual Funds - John Bogle
5. Think and Grow Rich - Napoleon Hill
6. The Only Investment Guide You'll Ever Need - Andrew Tobias
7. Die Broke - Stephen Pollan and Mark Levine
8. The Millionaire Next Door - Thomas Stanley
9. Den of Thieves - James B. Stewart
10. Monkey Business - John Rolfe and Peter Troob
11. Inside Out - Dennis Levine
12. Confessions of a Street Trader - Jim Cramer
13. Liar's Poker - Michael Lewis
14. King Icahn - Mark Stevens
15. Bringing Down the House - Ben Mezrich
16. The Zeroes - Randall Lane
17. The Predators' Ball - Connie Bruck
18. Only the Paranoid Survive - Andy Grove
19. F.I.A.S.C.O. : The Inside Story of a Wall Street Trader - Frank Partnoy
20. Who Moved My Cheese? - Spencer Johnson and Ken Blanchard
21. How to Win Friends and Influence People - Dale Carnegie
22. The Art of War - Sun Tzu
23. The Prince - Machiavelli
24. The Metrosexual Guide to Style - Michael Flocker
25. The Dirt - Motley Crue
26. You Can Negotiate Anything - Herb Cohen
27. Private Parts - Howard Stern
28. Miss America - Howard Stern
29. The Way Things Ought To Be - Rush Limbaugh
30. See I Told You So - Rush Limbaugh
31. Rich Dad, Poor Dad - Robert Kiyosaki
32. On the Firing Line: My 500 Days at Apple - Gil Amelio
33. The Road Ahead - Bill Gates
2. Swim with the Sharks - Harvey Mackay
3. Beware the Naked Man Who Offers You His Shirt - Harvey Mackay
4. Bogle on Mutual Funds - John Bogle
5. Think and Grow Rich - Napoleon Hill
6. The Only Investment Guide You'll Ever Need - Andrew Tobias
7. Die Broke - Stephen Pollan and Mark Levine
8. The Millionaire Next Door - Thomas Stanley
9. Den of Thieves - James B. Stewart
10. Monkey Business - John Rolfe and Peter Troob
11. Inside Out - Dennis Levine
12. Confessions of a Street Trader - Jim Cramer
13. Liar's Poker - Michael Lewis
14. King Icahn - Mark Stevens
15. Bringing Down the House - Ben Mezrich
16. The Zeroes - Randall Lane
17. The Predators' Ball - Connie Bruck
18. Only the Paranoid Survive - Andy Grove
19. F.I.A.S.C.O. : The Inside Story of a Wall Street Trader - Frank Partnoy
20. Who Moved My Cheese? - Spencer Johnson and Ken Blanchard
21. How to Win Friends and Influence People - Dale Carnegie
22. The Art of War - Sun Tzu
23. The Prince - Machiavelli
24. The Metrosexual Guide to Style - Michael Flocker
25. The Dirt - Motley Crue
26. You Can Negotiate Anything - Herb Cohen
27. Private Parts - Howard Stern
28. Miss America - Howard Stern
29. The Way Things Ought To Be - Rush Limbaugh
30. See I Told You So - Rush Limbaugh
31. Rich Dad, Poor Dad - Robert Kiyosaki
32. On the Firing Line: My 500 Days at Apple - Gil Amelio
33. The Road Ahead - Bill Gates
Napoleon Hill tho....created the whole self improvement racket, I encourage you to read up on his history. It's a bit checkered.
Virtue is its own reward.
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