Log In

Your email is not your username

Register

If you were a member of the old Bodybuilding.com forums and would like to reuse your previous username, you can request it below. We use your email only for registration and do not store it. For more information, please see our Privacy Policy.

Confirm your email

A registration code was sent to your email. Enter it here.

Welcome

You have successfully setup your account.

Sign in

Quick Navigation Bottom Misc
Forum » Think a 315x20 bench* is possible natty?
  1. Results 1 to 30 of 65
  2. Page 1 of 3
  3. 1
  4. 2
  5. 3
  7. Last

Thread: Think a 315x20 bench* is possible natty?

post 1620536161 10-26-2020, 08:32 PM
-
#1
  1. SaviorSelfJT
  2. clownslayer
  1. SaviorSelfJT
  2. clownslayer
  3. Join Date: Aug 2010
  4. Posts: 12,855
  5. Rep Power: 166618

Think a 315x20 bench* is possible natty?

* can be slightly sloppy in form. As in not entirely not locked out for example


Thoughts?


https://youtu.be/nRbiBOfwU4A

Fukn badass
Best lifts:
Bench press: 315x5
Squat: 465x1
Strict press: 205x5
Deadlift: 405x13 (conv tap'n'go with straps)
post 1620537131 10-26-2020, 08:44 PM
-
#2
  1. xbluexhawkx
  2. Registered User
  1. xbluexhawkx
  2. Registered User
  3. Join Date: Aug 2016
  4. Posts: 19,553
  5. Rep Power: 97479
gonna go with no
Balanced Test Crew
post 1620537301 10-26-2020, 08:45 PM
-
#3
  1. FrankGrimes29
  2. Banned
  1. FrankGrimes29
  2. Banned
  3. Join Date: Jul 2020
  4. Age: 56
  5. Posts: 3,914
  6. Rep Power: 0
100%. You can really put up some big numbers as a natty.

The thing is it will take a longer time to get there.

Also strength will typically involve a natty being high body fat percentage and not as aesthetic. I doubt I'll ever hit 315x20 natty but that is also because of my build. If you're natty but built to bench, you can hit 315x20 down the line bloatmaxxing.
post 1620537361 10-26-2020, 08:46 PM
-
#4
  1. justgenetics
  2. Registered User
  1. justgenetics
  2. Registered User
  3. Join Date: Dec 2014
  4. Age: 29
  5. Posts: 3,835
  6. Rep Power: 13446
Maybe from a 6’3 300lbs+ bloatgod
Brunettes Only Crew (non negotiable)

LTC Crew (negotiable)
post 1620537541 10-26-2020, 08:48 PM
-
#5
  1. SmashinYoungVag
  2. Registered User
  1. SmashinYoungVag
  2. Registered User
  3. Join Date: Dec 2019
  4. Age: 56
  5. Posts: 15,669
  6. Rep Power: 103186
Possible? Yeah. Likely? No. Likely while aesthetic? No, that’s 1 in a million.
post 1620537751 10-26-2020, 08:50 PM
-
#6
  1. tank2003
  1. tank2003
  3. Join Date: Sep 2003
  4. Location: Mississippi, United States
  5. Posts: 41,636
  6. Rep Power: 371828
Yeah. There is a miscer who does Eric Spoto's BP system and can bench 405 for 15-20 or so. He has posted a video of 315 x 20 or 30 before. I cant remember his username though
“That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even death may die.” - The Nameless City by HP Lovecraft
"The higher the prevalence of infectious diseases the higher the probability of totalitarian political attitudes."
-Dr. Jordan Peterson Sept 2017
"The search for a moral equivalent of war continues to define American Liberalism to this day."
post 1620537811 10-26-2020, 08:50 PM
-
#7
  1. SaviorSelfJT
  2. clownslayer
  1. SaviorSelfJT
  2. clownslayer
  3. Join Date: Aug 2010
  4. Posts: 12,855
  5. Rep Power: 166618
Originally Posted By justgenetics⏩
Maybe from a 6’3 300lbs+ bloatgod
What about a 5’8 250lb bloatgoblin?
Best lifts:
Bench press: 315x5
Squat: 465x1
Strict press: 205x5
Deadlift: 405x13 (conv tap'n'go with straps)
post 1620537921 10-26-2020, 08:52 PM
-
#8
  1. IronProdigy
  2. Registered User
  1. IronProdigy
  2. Registered User
  3. Join Date: Jan 2016
  4. Location: United States
  5. Posts: 2,175
  6. Rep Power: 8176
That's like a 425 bench max I think. Given how the guy is not a bloadlord, he's definitely on something or has been on something in the past
post 1620537961 10-26-2020, 08:52 PM
-
#9
  1. Hartley110
  2. Yellowcreampiemaxxer
  1. Hartley110
  2. Yellowcreampiemaxxer
  3. Join Date: Mar 2007
  4. Posts: 4,844
  5. Rep Power: 20982
99% of ppl can't

And you.

Your not that guy pal TRUST ME

YOUR NOT THAT GUY
post 1620538081 10-26-2020, 08:53 PM
-
#10
  1. SaviorSelfJT
  2. clownslayer
  1. SaviorSelfJT
  2. clownslayer
  3. Join Date: Aug 2010
  4. Posts: 12,855
  5. Rep Power: 166618
Originally Posted By tank2003⏩
Yeah. There is a miscer who does Eric Spoto's BP system and can bench 405 for 15-20 or so. He has posted a video of 315 x 20 or 30 before. I cant remember his username though
BRB researching the spoto system
Best lifts:
Bench press: 315x5
Squat: 465x1
Strict press: 205x5
Deadlift: 405x13 (conv tap'n'go with straps)
post 1620538291 10-26-2020, 08:55 PM
-
#11
  1. SaviorSelfJT
  2. clownslayer
  1. SaviorSelfJT
  2. clownslayer
  3. Join Date: Aug 2010
  4. Posts: 12,855
  5. Rep Power: 166618
Originally Posted By IronProdigy⏩
That's like a 425 bench max I think. Given how the guy is not a bloadlord, he's definitely on something or has been on something in the past
I’m sure it varies person to person but for me it would be a 485 bench based off of my 1rm and 20rm vals

But if I trained specifically for 20 rep sets maybe that ratio would flatten a bit and maybe like a 450 max
Best lifts:
Bench press: 315x5
Squat: 465x1
Strict press: 205x5
Deadlift: 405x13 (conv tap'n'go with straps)
post 1620538451 10-26-2020, 08:57 PM
-
#12
  1. justgenetics
  2. Registered User
  1. justgenetics
  2. Registered User
  3. Join Date: Dec 2014
  4. Age: 29
  5. Posts: 3,835
  6. Rep Power: 13446
Originally Posted By SaviorSelfJT⏩
What about a 5’8 250lb bloatgoblin?
Fkin lol

Realistically I highly doubt it, maybe 450-475
Brunettes Only Crew (non negotiable)

LTC Crew (negotiable)
post 1620539231 10-26-2020, 09:04 PM
-
#13
  1. IronProdigy
  2. Registered User
  1. IronProdigy
  2. Registered User
  3. Join Date: Jan 2016
  4. Location: United States
  5. Posts: 2,175
  6. Rep Power: 8176
Originally Posted By SaviorSelfJT⏩
I’m sure it varies person to person but for me it would be a 485 bench based off of my 1rm and 20rm vals

But if I trained specifically for 20 rep sets maybe that ratio would flatten a bit and maybe like a 450 max
Now that I think about it you're right. I just remembered doing 225x15 when I hit 315 but scaling doesn't really work. It should be at least 450 max which maxes natty claim all the more unealistic
post 1620539291 10-26-2020, 09:05 PM
-
#14
  1. Ausaric
  2. Still Alive
  1. Ausaric
  2. Still Alive
  3. Join Date: Nov 2014
  4. Posts: 28,808
  5. Rep Power: 200750
That dude is definitely legit.
post 1620539571 10-26-2020, 09:07 PM
-
#15
  1. leoric1997
  2. Banned
  1. leoric1997
  2. Banned
  3. Join Date: May 2017
  4. Posts: 3,556
  5. Rep Power: 0
just eat some duck eggs and you'll get it no time
post 1620539601 10-26-2020, 09:08 PM
-
#16
  1. sooby
  2. WOATbrah of peace :)
  1. sooby
  2. WOATbrah of peace :)
  3. Join Date: Feb 2015
  4. Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
  5. Posts: 43,319
  6. Rep Power: 219409
i think people underestimate what is possible as far as strength numbers goes as a natty, i think a dead give away tho is if they look fuking jacked and shredded while doing it

a decade ago i probably would have said no but kids these days are getting ridiculously strong




not sure if natty but if 19 years that's fukn ridiculous

even got high school girls benching 350 srs

positivity brah crew
dont take my posts too srs crew srs
JFL @ everything crew
lol @ tradies srs crew
BIG LOL @ sky tradies srs crew (RealAesthetic)
indian crew
living in clown world crew so screw it crew
anti-degen crew
post 1620539881 10-26-2020, 09:11 PM
-
#17
  1. Hartley110
  2. Yellowcreampiemaxxer
  1. Hartley110
  2. Yellowcreampiemaxxer
  3. Join Date: Mar 2007
  4. Posts: 4,844
  5. Rep Power: 20982
Genetics are a helluva lottery.
post 1620540121 10-26-2020, 09:13 PM
-
#18
  1. Ausaric
  2. Still Alive
  1. Ausaric
  2. Still Alive
  3. Join Date: Nov 2014
  4. Posts: 28,808
  5. Rep Power: 200750
Originally Posted By sooby⏩
i think people underestimate what is possible as far as strength numbers goes as a natty, i think a dead give away tho is if they look fuking jacked and shredded while doing it

a decade ago i probably would have said no but kids these days are getting ridiculously strong

19 years old with 40 year old hairline. Also didn’t pause his rep. SAD!!
post 1620540401 10-26-2020, 09:16 PM
-
#19
  1. xbluexhawkx
  2. Registered User
  1. xbluexhawkx
  2. Registered User
  3. Join Date: Aug 2016
  4. Posts: 19,553
  5. Rep Power: 97479
Originally Posted By sooby⏩
i think people underestimate what is possible as far as strength numbers goes as a natty, i think a dead give away tho is if they look fuking jacked and shredded while doing it

a decade ago i probably would have said no but kids these days are getting ridiculously strong




not sure if natty but if 19 years that's fukn ridiculous

even got high school girls benching 350 srs

lol @ posting that 19 year old with a NW4

natty for sure!
Balanced Test Crew
post 1620540411 10-26-2020, 09:16 PM
-
#20
  1. SaviorSelfJT
  2. clownslayer
  1. SaviorSelfJT
  2. clownslayer
  3. Join Date: Aug 2010
  4. Posts: 12,855
  5. Rep Power: 166618
Originally Posted By Ausaric⏩
19 years old with 40 year old hairline. Also didn’t pause his rep. SAD!!
That can’t be natty.....his arms/body in general is way too small for me to believe he’s lifting that natty. If he was 400lbs body weight of bloat I could believe it
Best lifts:
Bench press: 315x5
Squat: 465x1
Strict press: 205x5
Deadlift: 405x13 (conv tap'n'go with straps)
post 1620540601 10-26-2020, 09:18 PM
-
#21
  1. 1hardgainer
  2. Registered User
  1. 1hardgainer
  2. Registered User
  3. Join Date: Jun 2004
  4. Posts: 18,084
  5. Rep Power: 144300
I think it's definitely possible if you have the genetics. There are probably bloatcels out there (like Samoans, for example) that can bench 315 with zero lifting experience.
"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." (John 3:16)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wh1VU-_OF98
post 1620540771 10-26-2020, 09:20 PM
-
#22
  1. induced_drag
  2. Powerlifting in disguise
  1. induced_drag
  2. Powerlifting in disguise
  3. Join Date: Jan 2009
  4. Age: 53
  5. Posts: 13,078
  6. Rep Power: 219967
Very strong guy.

Saw his other vid which I attached. I have had 20 years in the gym. Seen a few guys like this over the years. Just perfect leverages. Dont really look all that huge and can generate all kinds of power. Guy at my old gym used to incline 495x5-6. He was proabably 250lbs 20-25%bf. He worked as a jack man on a NASCAR pit crew. Just freaky strong.

His bar speed is crazy. I have got 12 reps w/ 315 which gave me a PB comp raw paused lift of 420. Wonder what this dudes max might have been. EASILY a 500+ bencher which I have only seen a few times in my life by guys nattie or not. Crazy impressive. My guess is the guy is probably naturally just that crazy cock strong.

RAW lifts
635 Dead http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mATRBZ0gwdg
585x7 Dead reps http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yf2ZkdNNNQ
420 Bench (paused) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJ2_Q-TLIB8
535 Squat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdgVaiTi4-8&feature=youtu.be
post 1620541031 10-26-2020, 09:24 PM
-
#23
  1. nm1891
  2. Registered User
  1. nm1891
  2. Registered User
  3. Join Date: Apr 2012
  4. Posts: 9,078
  5. Rep Power: 28909
Keep in mind that the bench press record pre steroids was like 400 lbs lol. Of course there are several more variables to it but still.....
S/B/D—185/165/205 (sumo w/ straps)
post 1620541231 10-26-2020, 09:26 PM
-
#24
  1. SaviorSelfJT
  2. clownslayer
  1. SaviorSelfJT
  2. clownslayer
  3. Join Date: Aug 2010
  4. Posts: 12,855
  5. Rep Power: 166618
Originally Posted By Annaleese⏩
you dont know chit

Lifting big weights is training cns too, you don't just keep growing forever natty. That guy is very big
He doesn’t look big for a 19 year old with a 500lb bench
Best lifts:
Bench press: 315x5
Squat: 465x1
Strict press: 205x5
Deadlift: 405x13 (conv tap'n'go with straps)
post 1620541301 10-26-2020, 09:26 PM
-
#25
  1. tank2003
  1. tank2003
  3. Join Date: Sep 2003
  4. Location: Mississippi, United States
  5. Posts: 41,636
  6. Rep Power: 371828
Originally Posted By SaviorSelfJT⏩
BRB researching the spoto system
Gotta pay for it but i hear its really fukking good. Especially spoto pressing. But its not that great for bodybuilding, just getting really fukking strong
Originally Posted By sooby⏩
i think people underestimate what is possible as far as strength numbers goes as a natty, i think a dead give away tho is if they look fuking jacked and shredded while doing it

a decade ago i probably would have said no but kids these days are getting ridiculously strong




not sure if natty but if 19 years that's fukn ridiculous

even got high school girls benching 350 srs

I am calling 100% bull chit here. neither are natty. Jen Thompson is probably the world's best female bench presser in the world (pretty hot too) and she is an member of USA Powerlifting, which is drug tested. Her BP is 320. Granted, she is 132ish ponds. Neither that guy or that black girl is natty at all.



Edit: Didnt see the YT video in the OP. That old guy could be batty but he could also be on the juice. The military only tests for narcotics UNLESS they suspect you are on something that is banned and even then, you'd have to piss off one of your superiors for them to want to test you. The guy seems a bit old so i am leaning more towards him being on TRT or prohormones because you canEASILYfind them at any supplement store anywhere near a military post these days. They tweak the formula so its nottechnicallya pro-hormone chemically even though it works just like it
“That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even death may die.” - The Nameless City by HP Lovecraft
"The higher the prevalence of infectious diseases the higher the probability of totalitarian political attitudes."
-Dr. Jordan Peterson Sept 2017
"The search for a moral equivalent of war continues to define American Liberalism to this day."
post 1620541381 10-26-2020, 09:28 PM
-
#26
  1. xbluexhawkx
  2. Registered User
  1. xbluexhawkx
  2. Registered User
  3. Join Date: Aug 2016
  4. Posts: 19,553
  5. Rep Power: 97479
Originally Posted By induced_drag⏩
Very strong guy.

Saw his other vid which I attached. I have had 20 years in the gym. Seen a few guys like this over the years. Just perfect leverages. Dont really look all that huge and can generate all kinds of power. Guy at my old gym used to incline 495x5-6. He was proabably 250lbs 20-25%bf. He worked as a jack man on a NASCAR pit crew. Just freaky strong.

His bar speed is crazy. I have got 12 reps w/ 315 which gave me a PB comp raw paused lift of 420. Wonder what this dudes max might have been. EASILY a 500+ bencher which I have only seen a few times in my life by guys nattie or not. Crazy impressive. My guess is the guy is probably naturally just that crazy cock strong.

makes me cringe seeing that old guy still lifting weights that heavy

he'll be feeling that in a few years

(impressive asf doe)
Balanced Test Crew
post 1620542321 10-26-2020, 09:39 PM
-
#27
  1. tank2003
  1. tank2003
  3. Join Date: Sep 2003
  4. Location: Mississippi, United States
  5. Posts: 41,636
  6. Rep Power: 371828
Originally Posted By induced_drag⏩
Very strong guy.

Saw his other vid which I attached. I have had 20 years in the gym. Seen a few guys like this over the years. Just perfect leverages. Dont really look all that huge and can generate all kinds of power. Guy at my old gym used to incline 495x5-6. He was proabably 250lbs 20-25%bf. He worked as a jack man on a NASCAR pit crew. Just freaky strong.

His bar speed is crazy. I have got 12 reps w/ 315 which gave me a PB comp raw paused lift of 420. Wonder what this dudes max might have been. EASILY a 500+ bencher which I have only seen a few times in my life by guys nattie or not. Crazy impressive. My guess is the guy is probably naturally just that crazy cock strong.

Yeah he is enhanced. No doubt about it. My best is 465 @ about 240 lbs (1RM). I highly doubt a natty lifter could even approach 500 lbs
“That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even death may die.” - The Nameless City by HP Lovecraft
"The higher the prevalence of infectious diseases the higher the probability of totalitarian political attitudes."
-Dr. Jordan Peterson Sept 2017
"The search for a moral equivalent of war continues to define American Liberalism to this day."
post 1620542401 10-26-2020, 09:40 PM
-
#28
  1. sooby
  2. WOATbrah of peace :)
  1. sooby
  2. WOATbrah of peace :)
  3. Join Date: Feb 2015
  4. Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
  5. Posts: 43,319
  6. Rep Power: 219409
Originally Posted By Annaleese⏩
does he look natty to you you fukin retard!?
point was natty or not you have kids capable of putting up such high numbers and it isn't like they've been training for 20 years retard
positivity brah crew
dont take my posts too srs crew srs
JFL @ everything crew
lol @ tradies srs crew
BIG LOL @ sky tradies srs crew (RealAesthetic)
indian crew
living in clown world crew so screw it crew
anti-degen crew
post 1620543091 10-26-2020, 09:47 PM
-
#29
  1. induced_drag
  2. Powerlifting in disguise
  1. induced_drag
  2. Powerlifting in disguise
  3. Join Date: Jan 2009
  4. Age: 53
  5. Posts: 13,078
  6. Rep Power: 219967
Originally Posted By tank2003⏩
Yeah he is enhanced. No doubt about it. My best is 465 @ about 240 lbs (1RM). I highly doubt a natty lifter could even approach 500 lbs
Who cares what your best is? Does that mean you are the strongest to ever walk the planet.

Like I said, in my 20 years in the gym I have seen a few guys like this. My guess is the guy is natural 100%. His recruitment is crazy. Look at the bar speed. I could do 315x12 but the bar was slow as hell. This guy makes 315 look like 135.

Combination of fiber type make up and perfect leverages. Just perfectly blessed and probably never really had had to train like many of us. His form is far from perfect or refined. Just plain cock strong
RAW lifts
635 Dead http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mATRBZ0gwdg
585x7 Dead reps http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yf2ZkdNNNQ
420 Bench (paused) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJ2_Q-TLIB8
535 Squat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdgVaiTi4-8&feature=youtu.be
post 1620543281 10-26-2020, 09:49 PM
-
#30
  1. nm1891
  2. Registered User
  1. nm1891
  2. Registered User
  3. Join Date: Apr 2012
  4. Posts: 9,078
  5. Rep Power: 28909
Originally Posted By Annaleese⏩
500 is achievable natty. By a bench specialist with good leverages and some weight behind him he can hit 500
Then why was the record pre roids only 400 lbs? Nutrition, training and sample size may come in to play, but let’s not pretend like a true 500 lbs bench isnt exceedingly rare to the point that it is much safer to assume that any 500 lbs bencher is more than likely enhanced.
S/B/D—185/165/205 (sumo w/ straps)
Quick Navigation Top Misc
Bookmarks
Digg.com
Digg
del.icio.us
del.icio.us
Stumbleupon.com
StumbleUpon
Google.com
Google
Facebook.com
Facebook
Posting Permissions
  1. You may not post new threads
  2. You may not post replies
  3. You may not post attachments
  4. You may not edit your posts