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Originally Posted By PenorBrahNoHomo⏩

I'm not interested in giving a proper answer atm, it would take too long, but that encapsulates it..

C'mon, Penor.

I'm looking forward to reading your thoughts.

10-29-2020, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩

cope

Sorry brah, you're not going to sell me on Nationalism as a legitimate ideology. I don't care how many YouTube videos you show me.

Quick question-- what would happen to the Juice under your ideal system of government?

10-29-2020, 09:11 AM

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Op. I don't recall what the prophet Muhammed looks like.

Could you post a few pics for me?

10-29-2020, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted By HYDRAE⏩

Those that show up in the top 20 are strictly because they lucked into having oil - nothing cultural. Without the natural resources, they'd be backwater chit holes like the rest.

No, that's not true at all.

There are resource rich countries in Latin American and Africa, that do not have that level of wealth. The income from the resources need to be managed and redirected in a way that benefits the infrastructure.

Simply having income from resources will not produce infrastructure development and national wealth, and that has been proven with countries in Latin America and Africa. The leadership and economic system matters a lot.

10-29-2020, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted By Hutrapper⏩

Op. I don't recall what the prophet Muhammed looks like.

Could you post a few pics for me?

Lmao @ the super saiyan aura though

10-29-2020, 09:12 AM

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10-29-2020, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted By EZR4⏩

Koran 9:5

« ˹who violated their treaties »

LMFAO. It's not only permissible, it is encouraged. Low IQ if you read it every day and dont see it.

Thats why i respect fundamentalists. Sure, they are radical. But at least they take the book as it was meant to be taken and dont use it to lever out their cognitive dissonance.

TFOUHH @ you

Do u even read u illiterate *******! it says ‘who violated their treaties’ this refers to the peace treaties done with the polytheists and if they violate them meaning by breaking peace and attacking then it’s your duty to defend urself and fight back.

Islamophobes are such pathetic lying cuck.

10-29-2020, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩

No, that's not true at all.

There are resource rich countries in Latin American and Africa, that do not have that level of wealth. The income from the resources need to be managed and redirected in a way that benefits the infrastructure.

Simply having income from resources will not produce infrastructure development and national wealth, and that has been proven with countries in Latin America and Africa. The leadership and economic system matters a lot.

okay, but that is missing the point. which countries on that list *don't* derive their wealth from oil. all they have to do is not fuk it up like Venezuela. Why don't any other Islamic countries show up without oil wealth?

10-29-2020, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩

Most muslims IME are against vigiliantism, support the death penalty for homosexuality, blasphemy, apostasy and adultery, and slavery, under a caliphate.

Most muslims IME see your position as unorthodox, because it is against the jurisprudence of the 4 schools of thought, and the Salafi Ulema.

You seem to be a very unorthodox muslim.

Lol, and we're back to your warped view. You know nothing about MOST Muslims because you were never a proper Muslim.

MOST, Islamically educated people do not hold those views at all. Stop basing your posts on uneducated, third-world Muslims who are more culturally influenced than Islamically influenced.

Originally Posted By EZR4⏩

Koran 9:5

"But once the Sacred Months have passed, kill the polytheists ˹who violated their treaties˺ wherever you find them, capture them, besiege them, and lie in wait for them on every way. But if they repent, perform prayers, and pay alms-tax, then set them free. Indeed, Allah is All-Forgiving, Most Merciful."

LMFAO. It's not only permissible, it is encouraged. Low IQ if you read it every day and dont see it.

Thats why i respect fundamentalists. Sure, they are radical. But at least they take the book as it was meant to be taken and dont use it to lever out their cognitive dissonance.

TFOUHH @ you

Read it again idiot. You have no clue what you're even arguing.

Go back to your sloot/alcohol/drug worship.

10-29-2020, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted By TomWanks⏩

Sorry brah, you're not going to sell me on Nationalism as a legitimate ideology.

You've made up your mind then.

There's nothing a person can say or do, when someone makes a conscious decision to actively avoid considering other ideas. Nothing left to write then.

Quick question-- what would happen to the Juice under your ideal system of government?

*Grinning* What exactly do you think my political philosophy/ideology is?

What race do you think I am?

10-29-2020, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted By Hutrapper⏩

Op. I don't recall what the prophet Muhammed looks like.

Could you post a few pics for me?

Think your Avi is a fair guess what he looks like lol

10-29-2020, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted By ***uette⏩

Do u even read u illiterate *******! it says ‘who violated their treaties’ this refers to the peace treaties done with the polytheists and if they violate them meaning by breaking peace and attacking then it’s your duty to defend urself and fight back.

Islamophobes are such pathetic lying cuck.

Originally Posted By MuzzieChik786⏩

Read it again idiot. You have no clue what you're even arguing.

Go back to your sloot/alcohol/drug worship.

LMFAO YOU STUPID *******S, the thing in the apostrophes was put in there by the translator who was probably biased.

This is the originale quote without interpretations:

"But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful."

Edit: Even if it was about only killing people whove done wrong. IT STILL ENCOURAGES TO KILL PEOPLE. Low iq *******s out of my site

10-29-2020, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted By MiniManletBrah⏩

Intersectionality???

Lmfao you libcuck bitch

Did you learn that word at your Liberal arts college *******?

Intersectionality as in why do western liberals ride the coattails of radical Islam, and visa versa?

You’re the whiny little liberal bitch not me

10-29-2020, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted By MuzzieChik786⏩

Lol, and we're back to your warped view. You know nothing about MOST Muslims because you were never a proper Muslim.

I've honestly seen that accusation directed a literally ever ex-muslim I've ever seen who criticizes Islam online. Incredibly common.

MOST, Islamically educated people do not hold those views at all.

OK, you are presumably more educated than me on Islam, so can you tell everyone here what is the verdict from the 4 schools of Islamic Jurisprudence and Salafi Ulema about the punishment for Blasphemy, Adultery, Homosexuality and Apostasy within a caliphate.

Please post them, all the verdicts from the Hanafi, Shafi'i, Maliki, Hanafi and Salafi Scholars. IME it will range from imprisonment to death, as long as they have been convicted under due process.

If you think I'm wrong, please correct me publicly, and tell me which verdict applies to each school of thought, please list them here for everyone to see how wrong I am.

I'm sure you know that the majority of muslims either follow one of the 4 schools of Islamic jurisprudence or the Salafi Ulema. Or are you going to deny that publicly?

(I'm going to predict that all I will get is a snarky reply. Honestly, I think because you know that if you did what I asked you would be exposed for being ignorant or dishonest.)

Stop basing your posts on uneducated, third-world Muslims who are more culturally influenced than Islamically influenced.

Did you grow up in the west?

Arguably, your aversion to traditional Islam may be based on your westernization.

10-29-2020, 09:26 AM

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It's just a small minority of zealots brah, the majority are completely peaceful and no different from any normal western person. JFL. I'll take sloot delusion knows no bounds for $500 Alex.

https://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/...iety-overview/

10-29-2020, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted By TomWanks⏩

It's just a small minority of zealots brah, the majority are completely peaceful. JFL. I'll take sloot delusion knows no bounds for $500 Alex.

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https://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/...iety-overview/

She's either dishonest, in denial, or ignorant, IMO.

I think she gets hyperemotional about this topic (understandably so, Islam is a strong part of her identity). I think she is good hearted, and I don't think she's a dummy, so I think she's in denial.

10-29-2020, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted By HYDRAE⏩

okay, but that is missing the point. which countries on that list *don't* derive their wealth from oil. all they have to do is not fuk it up like Venezuela.

I don't see how that was the point, when you wrote that it was strictly due to oil. My reply was to show that it was not 'strictly' due to oil. It was also due to leadership, and their economic system.

Why don't any other Islamic countries show up without oil wealth?

I never said that resources weren't a key driving force behind their wealth, my point was that as we can clearly see in Latin America and Africa income from resources still requires competent management to provide socio-economic improvement for the nation.

10-29-2020, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted By MuzzieChik786⏩

Tell us more oh wise one. How many Muslim majority countries have you visited?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_...20Arab%20world.

Maldives 374,775 374,775 100 < 0.1 [210]
Mauritania 3,845,430 3,840,430 99.9 0.2 [215]
****lia 11,000,000 10,978,000 99.8 0.6 [258]
Tunisia 11,446,300 11,190,000 99.8 0.6
Afghanistan 37,135,000 37,025,000 99.7 2.0 [35]
Iran 83,000,000 82,500,000 99.4 4.6 [169]
Western Sahara 603,253 599,633 99.4 < 0.1 [289][290]
Yemen 28,036,829 27,784,498 99.2 1.5 [291][292]
Algeria 41,657,488 41,240,913 99 2.7 [38]
Morocco 38,314,130 37,930,989 99 2.1 [228]
Comoros 821,164 807,204 98.3 < 0.1 [105]
Niger 21,466,863 21,101,926 98.3 1 [233]
Saudi Arabia 34,220,000 33,535,000 98.2 1.8
Tajikistan 9,540,000 9,253,000 97.9 0.4 [271][272][273]
Palestine 4,780,978 4,298,000 97.5 0.3
Jordan 10,458,413 10,165,577 97.2 0.4 [180]
Djibouti 884,017 857,496 97 0.1 [116][117]
Libya 6,754,507 6,551,871 97 0.4 [196][197]
Mayotte 256,518 253,439 97 < 0.1 [217]
Sudan 40,825,770 39,585,777 97 1.9 [263]
Azerbaijan 10,046,516 9,735,074 96.9 0.5 [53]
Pakistan 210,000,000 202,650,000 96.5 11.1 [238][239]
Senegal 15,726,037 15,112,721 96.1 0.8 [252]
Gambia 2,092,731 2,002,743 95.7 0.1 [142]
Iraq 40,194,216 38,465,864 95.7 1.9 [170]
Kosovo 1,907,592 1,823,657 95.6 0.1 [184]
Mali 18,429,893 17,508,398 95 0.8 [211][90]
Turkmenistan 6,031,187 5,610,000 93.7 0.3
Bangladesh 170,000,000 153,700,000 90.4 9.2 [56][57]
Egypt 95,000,000 85,000,000–90,000,000 90–94.7 4.9 [123][124]
Turkey 83,155,000 74,423,725 89.5 4.6 [277][278]
Guinea 11,855,411 10,563,171 89.1 0.5 [155]
Uzbekistan 34,036,800 29,920,000 88.7 1.7 [285]
Indonesia 263,000,000 229,000,000 87.2 12.7 [168]
Syria 18,000,000 16,00,000 87 1 [267][268]
Oman 4,633,752 2,427,000 86 0.2 [237]
Cocos (Keeling) Islands 596 < 1,000 80 < 0.1 [101][102]
Kyrgyzstan 5,849,296 4,679,436 80 0.3 [186][187]
Brunei 450,565 355,045 78.8 < 0.1 [78]
Sierra Leone 7,719,729 6,067,706 78.6 0.3 [255]
Qatar 2,450,285 1,566,786 77.5 0.1 [243]
United Arab Emirates 9,541,615 7,251,627 76 0.2 [282][283]
Kuwait 2,916,467 2,175,684 74.6 0.2 [185]
Bahrain 1,442,659 1,063,239 73.7 < 0.1 [55]
Kazakhstan 18,744,548 13,158,672 70.2 0.5 [181]
Burkina Faso 19,742,715 12,141,769 61.5 0.6 [81]
Malaysia 31,809,660 16,318,355 61.3 1.1 [209]
Albania 3,057,220 1,797,645 58.8 0.1 [36][37]
Chad 15,833,116 9,183,207 58 0.4 [93][90]
Lebanon 6,100,075 3,519,743 57.7 0.2 [192]
Bosnia and Herzegovina 3,849,891 1,955,084 50.7 0.1 [72]

I recognize quite a number of those countries as countries known for citizens who live in abject poverty. You disagree?

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Originally Posted By moosik85⏩

bingo. I didn’t say conviction to islam. I obviously meant traditional western values

allahu ronald reagan!

10-29-2020, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted By soaponarope1⏩

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_...20Arab%20world.

I recognize quite a number of those countries as countries known for citizens who live in abject poverty. You disagree?

That wasn't my question to you homie. I asked how many Muslim majority countries have you visited?

10-29-2020, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted By ***uette⏩

Do u even read u illiterate *******! it says ‘who violated their treaties’ this refers to the peace treaties done with the polytheists and if they violate them meaning by breaking peace and attacking then it’s your duty to defend urself and fight back.

Islamophobes are such pathetic lying cuck.

Lol at this loser still trying to defend his dog**** subhuman religion. No wonder you low IQ ****s have achieved nothing.

10-29-2020, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted By MuzzieChik786⏩

That wasn't my question to you homie. I asked how many Muslim majority countries have you visited?

You skipped 2 key posts #76 and #77.

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Originally Posted By MuzzieChik786⏩

That wasn't my question to you homie. I asked how many Muslim majority countries have you visited?

How is me visiting ****lia, Yemen, or Brunei, for example, relevant to my knowledge of the average citizens economic and life conditions there?

I don't make a habit of visiting countries that have these types of travel warnings

Do not travel to ****lia due to COVID-19, crime, terrorism, civil unrest, health issues, kidnapping, and piracy.

Just a heads up, you can use the internet to learn about other countries, religions, continents, and many other things, you don't have to experience piracy in first person to know it is likely not an indication of a successful country.

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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩

You skipped 2 key posts #76 and #77.

Right after you read the Qur'an homie.

Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩

She's either dishonest, in denial, or ignorant, IMO.

Lol. You're more passionate about Muslims than I am. You know what the truth is deep down inside. God turns away those who He chooses and you're one of them.

Originally Posted By soaponarope1⏩

How is me visiting ****lia, Yemen, or Brunei, for example, relevant to my knowledge of the average citizens economic and life conditions there?

I don't make a habit of visiting countries that have these types of travel warnings

Just a heads up, you can use the internet to learn about other countries, religions, continents, and many other things, you don't have to experience piracy in first person to know it is likely not an indication of a successful country.

Because you made an assertion that Muslims don't use or know how to use toilets. I called you out on it because most of the Muslim countries I've visited and lived in have had those amenities.

Poor countries don't have the same amenities as we do (regardless of their religious majority status)??!?!? I'm shocked!

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Originally Posted By moosik85⏩

Maybe if we had the conviction they do our countries wouldn’t be going down the toilet

OP just got absolutely ethered by this brutal blackpill lmfao

suck a halal dick op you stupid racist kunt

10-29-2020, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted By MuzzieChik786⏩

Right after you read the Qur'an homie.

You presumably already know the answer to my question about the judgement of the 4 schools of thought and the Salafi consensus, so why not just post them?

Did you grow up in the west?

Lol. You're more passionate about Muslims than I am. You know what the truth is deep down inside. God turns away those who He chooses and you're one of them.

Right, I'm powerless. So not accountable.

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Originally Posted By smashedurgfx10⏩

OP just got absolutely ethered by this brutal blackpill lmfao

suck a halal dick op you stupid racist kunt

Muslim isn't a race.

Unless OP has made racist posts in the past?

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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩

So not accountable.

Oh no, you definitely are. Because you knew the truth and then chose to reject it.

Don't ask me personal questions, I've never cared to ask you any.

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Originally Posted By MuzzieChik786⏩

Right after you read the Qur'an homie.

Lol. You're more passionate about Muslims than I am. You know what the truth is deep down inside. God turns away those who He chooses and you're one of them.

Because you made an assertion that Muslims don't use or know how to use toilets. I called you out on it because most of the Muslim countries I've visited and lived in have had those amenities.

Poor countries don't have the same amenities as we do (regardless of their religious majority status)??!?!? I'm shocked!

It's not really an assertion, its common sense based on where a majority of them live --

12.7% of them live in Indonesia

About 24 million Indonesians lack safe water and 38 million lack access to improved sanitation facilities.

11.1% live in Pakistan

In Pakistan, 80 percent of people living in 24 major cities do not have access to clean water.

10.9% live in India - don't need to provide any stats for this one

The next 20% live in Bangladesh, Egypt and Nigeria

One thing in common among the countries with the largest % of the world's muslim population - they're all 3rd world and known for poverty. I'm not going to track down and count toilets, but I'll wager that if 38 million people in a country of 263 million (14%) lack access to "improved sanitation facilities" (plumbing) that a great portion of them don't have a toilet, as most with plumbing probably drop their turds down a hole. Worth noting - that is the richest country on that list. India is literally known for lack of toilets.

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Originally Posted By MuzzieChik786⏩

Oh no, you definitely are. Because you knew the truth and then chose to reject it.

God turns me away, but I'm accountable for God turning me away?

Don't ask me personal questions, I've never cared to ask you any.

You presume to know about my personal life. "you never were a practicing muslim".

The difference between me and you is I ask, you think you can read my mind.

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