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post 1622535901 11-13-2020, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted By AdamWW⏩
This is like arguing with a child...

have a good day. I'm not engaging with someone who simply cannot converse like an adult.
You can't talk to anyone with a differing opinion.
That's why your state is turning blue (sources included) and you will lose you guns.

You will leave you blue state and move to a red state and vote for blue laws like a typical liberal.

The cycle continues.
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Originally Posted By AccountingMajor⏩
You can't talk to anyone with a differing opinion.
That's why your state is turning blue (sources included) and you will lose you guns.

You will leave you blue state and move to a red state and vote for blue laws like a typical liberal.

The cycle continues.
Uh, when was Washington ever NOT blue?
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Originally Posted By AdamWW⏩
Jesus... just reading how much back and forth partisan anger there is makes me exhausted.

We're all just people doing what we think is best... we just have different ideas on what path leads to that goal: a better country.

Trumpists believe Trump is a more likely President to get us to either their personal goals for success and happiness OR the more likely done to move the country in a generally better direction.

Biden people believe Biden is the one to do it... moreso than Trump anyway.

Neither of us want to destroy the country, we want to make it better.

It's so unproductive to just bash eachother constantly, come up with 'clever' names to call eachother like children, and insist that EVERYONE with a different view surely must be a racist or a communist or a socialist or a moron...

We're just feeding the divisive machine of modern politics... this isn't how we make progress.
You're a good lib brah. Emotions are high right now, conservatives feel like we just lost the country to communists and will be overrun by a democrat dictatorship just like lefties said about trump. I'm even worried about that too but if there's one thing the libs showed us these past 4 years is that the president doesn't have as much power over our lives as we give them credit for. I think the biggest problem is the lockdowns, that's driving alot of fear and I can't blame anyone for that, I don't agree with them, I think they overreached, and it's a nightmare to anyone who fears government control as we all should, But I digress.

I do find it odd that 50% of the country hates the other 50% because that 50% are retarded racists while those 50% are retarded *******s. Idk if thats natural tribalism or if someone is playing us against each other or both. It's crazy to think that most of each 50% believes deeply in most of their partys talking points and hate most of the other partys talking points, it's like they've been able to refine each parties issues to perfectly inline with society's personality types to make this arguably the most polorizing time we've seen on along time.



Edit: I guess you can't say 50/50 as there's more libs than cons, pockets like LA and NYC etc
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Originally Posted By AdamWW⏩
Uh, when was Washington ever NOT blue?
Compare California (a liberal paradise with close to zero Republican influence) to Washington (enough Republican influence to not pass retarded laws gun laws)

Unless you think open carry and ccw are democrat legislation.
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Originally Posted By PISTELERO⏩
You're a good lib brah. Emotions are high right now, conservatives feel like we just lost the country to communists and will be overrun by a democrat dictatorship just like lefties said about trump. I'm even worried about that too but if there's one thing the libs showed us these past 4 years is that the president doesn't have as much power over our lives as we give them credit for. I think the biggest problem is the lockdowns, that's driving alot of fear and I can't blame anyone for that, I don't agree with them, I think they overreached, and it's a nightmare to anyone who fears government control as we all should, But I digress.

I do find it odd that 50% of the country hates the other 50% because that 50% are retarded racists while those 50% are retarded *******s. Idk if thats natural tribalism or if someone is playing us against each other or both. It's crazy to think that most of each 50% believes deeply in most of their partys talking points and hate most of the other partys talking points, it's like they've been able to refine each parties issues to perfectly inline with society's personality types to make this arguably the most polorizing time we've seen on along time.
I live in CA, I have seen what democrats can and will do if given enough power.
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Originally Posted By AccountingMajor⏩
Compare California (a liberal paradise with close to zero Republican influence) to Washington (enough Republican influence to not pass retarded laws gun laws)

Unless you think open carry and ccw are democrat legislation.
You can own guns in California. They are not banned, nor will they be, as you claimed all Dems want to do.
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Originally Posted By AdamWW⏩
You can own guns in California. They are not banned, nor will they be, as you claimed all Dems want to do.
Some guns are banned. I can't walk outside with my guns, I can't request a ccw in the red areas. I have to have 2 different lockers 1 for guns 1 for ammo. Do you seriously not see anything wrong with this?
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probably recounting the same bogus ballots. completely pointless

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Originally Posted By AccountingMajor⏩
Compare California (a liberal paradise with close to zero Republican influence) to Washington (enough Republican influence to not pass retarded laws gun laws)

Unless you think open carry and ccw are democrat legislation.
Lol wait until you tell this clown how Washington is one of the most if not the most business friendly state due taxes and other regulations.

“Evil capitalism , business owners are literally hitler”
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Originally Posted By AccountingMajor⏩
Some guns are banned. I can't walk outside with my guns, I can't request a ccw in the red areas. I have to have 2 different lockers 1 for guns 1 for ammo. Do you seriously not see anything wrong with this?
Depends where you're taking them. Context matters.
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Originally Posted By dogorman7⏩
Lol wait until you tell this clown how Washington is one of the most if not the most business friendly state due taxes and other regulations.

“Evil capitalism , business owners are literally hitler”
More childish name calling. Very productive.
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post 1622556611 11-13-2020, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted By AdamWW⏩
Depends where you're taking them. Context matters.
You are definitely one of those liberals...

What red policy do you agree with?

Or are you extremely corrupted and think like the following:

Lefty = ban all guns even for the police

Moderate = only military and police should have guns

Right = all law abiding citizens have a right to bear arms

You are the "moderate" in this case. No gun talk because you are ****ed in the head thinking it's blue laws that allow you to bear arms.

*Edit I'm talking about actual conservative policy. That would cause you to abandon democrats to vote Republican.
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Originally Posted By dogorman7⏩
Lol wait until you tell this clown how Washington is one of the most if not the most business friendly state due taxes and other regulations.

“Evil capitalism , business owners are literally hitler”
Liberals typically keep voting liberal thinking that democrats made his state liveable yet he's too scared to move to California because he knows this state is real liberalism that would fuk him over day in day out.
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Originally Posted By AccountingMajor⏩
You are definitely one of those liberals...

What red policy do you agree with?

Or are you extremely corrupted and think like the following:

Lefty = ban all guns even for the police

Moderate = only military and police should have guns

Right = all law abiding citizens have a right to bear arms

You are the "moderate" in this case. No gun talk because you are ****ed in the head thinking it's blue laws that allow you to bear arms.

*Edit I'm talking about actual conservative policy. That would cause you to abandon democrats to vote Republican.
I believe that all citizens should be allowed to buy/own guns if:

- They are of a certain age
- They do not have a history of violent crime
- They do not have a history psychological issues which would make their gun ownership a risk to those around them
- They pass a background check confirming the above

In terms of concealed carry, I think there should be some means of confirming via basic firearm handling training that someone can properly handle/manage a gun on their person. If someone can confirm that, and also pass the previously mentioned criteria, concealed carry is fine with me.


All this being said, having extremely generous gun rights isn't high on my list of priorities when it comes to voting, so this is probably an area we just don't align on. Nothing wrong with that.
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Originally Posted By AccountingMajor⏩
Liberals typically keep voting liberal thinking that democrats made his state liveable yet he's too scared to move to California because he knows this state is real liberalism that would fuk him over day in day out.
I lived in California for a year. It was fine.... tho state income tax was lame.
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Originally Posted By AccountingMajor⏩
You are definitely one of those liberals...

What red policy do you agree with?

Or are you extremely corrupted and think like the following:

Lefty = ban all guns even for the police

Moderate = only military and police should have guns

Right = all law abiding citizens have a right to bear arms

You are the "moderate" in this case. No gun talk because you are ****ed in the head thinking it's blue laws that allow you to bear arms.

*Edit I'm talking about actual conservative policy. That would cause you to abandon democrats to vote Republican.
I believe that all citizens should be allowed to buy/own guns if:

- They are of a certain age
- They do not have a history of violent crime
- They do not have a history psychological issues which would make their gun ownership a risk to those around them
- They pass a background check confirming the above

In terms of concealed carry, I think there should be some means of confirming via basic firearm handling training that someone can properly handle/manage a gun on their person. If someone can confirm that, and also pass the previously mentioned criteria, concealed carry is fine with me.


All this being said, having extremely generous gun rights isn't high on my list of priorities when it comes to voting, so this is probably an area we just don't align on. Nothing wrong with that. Not ALL conservatives are super hyped on guns either, it's just a general trend.

Politics isn't ever a matter of being 100% in one party or another... it's always a spectrum.
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Originally Posted By AdamWW⏩
I believe that all citizens should be allowed to buy/own guns if:

- They are of a certain age
- They do not have a history of violent crime
- They do not have a history psychological issues which would make their gun ownership a risk to those around them
- They pass a background check confirming the above

In terms of concealed carry, I think there should be some means of confirming via basic firearm handling training that someone can properly handle/manage a gun on their person. If someone can confirm that, and also pass the previously mentioned criteria, concealed carry is fine with me.


All this being said, having extremely generous gun rights isn't high on my list of priorities when it comes to voting, so this is probably an area we just don't align on. Nothing wrong with that.
That's because you don't live in California in the barrio surrounded by illegals and you are OK with banning guns. What you are saying isn't even what the democrat party wants to do. Democrats want to turn the country in California, but you refuse to say that California is a problem.
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Originally Posted By AccountingMajor⏩
That's because you don't live in California in the barrio surrounded by illegals and you are OK with banning guns. What you are saying isn't even what the democrat party wants to do. Democrats want to turn the country in California, but you refuse to say that California is a problem.
yet again, you're putting words in my mouth.

I never said I am ok with banning guns... I don't understand why you continue saying that.



You also seem to have ignored where I said that the gun topic isn't high on my priority list for voting decisions, and even if the Democrats in general weren't in line with my personal views on guns, that doesn't mean a single difference in opinion would sway me in another direction.

I don't align 100% with every party decision and neither do most people... you weigh the pros AND the cons and you decide based on the balance of the outcome.
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Originally Posted By AccountingMajor⏩
That's because you don't live in California in the barrio surrounded by illegals and you are OK with banning guns. What you are saying isn't even what the democrat party wants to do. Democrats want to turn the country in California, but you refuse to say that California is a problem.
In his defense he just laid out his 2A beliefs and they are spot on with the current standards. He simply said 2A isn't at the top of his worries. That's fair enough. He has reasonable beliefs though, actually his 2A beliefs from that post is pretty spot on with most conservatives beliefs.
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Originally Posted By AdamWW⏩
I lived in California for a year. It was fine.... tho state income tax was lame.
Damn really? 1 year isn't anything. That's like if I visited Mexico for a week and said it ain't so bad.

Move your entire life and live here for a lifetime like I have.

If state income tax is all you can think about, you are absolutely out of touch.

Rent increases 5% per year because of rent control, the state refuses to deport all the illegals here so housing is more scarce than it should be. Wages are low compared to the COL. In San Diego specifically, it's garbage. The wages are the same as Oklahoma but the COL is lower over there.

You are like the white man living in San Francisco saying you love illegals, but funnily enough, you don't live near any illegals because they don't live in your area, they live in my area and you vote to ban my guns to defend myself.

Again want RED laws do you support that would cause you to abandon democrats to vote republican.

Edit I live in the bluest, and people wonder why I vote red.its because I experience liberal idiocy every day of the week.
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Originally Posted By PISTELERO⏩
In his defense he just laid out his 2A beliefs and they are spot on with the current standards. He simply said 2A isn't at the top of his worries. That's fair enough. He has reasonable beliefs though, actually his 2A beliefs from that post is pretty spot on with most conservatives beliefs.
He has conservative beliefs but is OK with CA democrats stripping his rights away. I legit cannot do anything to defend myself in this state. If someone breaks into my home, I'm better off dead because you can't shoot someone in your home in CA. They have to be in the process of breaking into your home. Once their in you're fuked.
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Originally Posted By AdamWW⏩
yet again, you're putting words in my mouth.

I never said I am ok with banning guns... I don't understand why you continue saying that.



You also seem to have ignored where I said that the gun topic isn't high on my priority list for voting decisions, and even if the Democrats in general weren't in line with my personal views on guns, that doesn't mean a single difference in opinion would sway me in another direction.

I don't align 100% with every party decision and neither do most people... you weigh the pros AND the cons and you decide based on the balance of the outcome.
Then tell.me what red policy do you support.
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Originally Posted By PISTELERO⏩
In his defense he just laid out his 2A beliefs and they are spot on with the current standards. He simply said 2A isn't at the top of his worries. That's fair enough. He has reasonable beliefs though, actually his 2A beliefs from that post is pretty spot on with most conservatives beliefs.
Right... and honestly it does make the voting process or identifying with a party difficult because there are things about the left-leaning/liberal viewpoints I totally disagree with, but when all is considered that is where I usually end up.

Hence why I typically try not to say I am left or right, because either option carried with it an insane stigma that most folks just use to pigeonhole individuals as though there's no nuance to the thought process.

There are conservatives out there who hate guns, there are liberals who love guns... there are liberals who are pro-life, and their are conservatives who are pro-choice...

I simply refuse to believe that in order to share my opinions I have to be reduced to RED or BLUE... even if that's how we ultimately end up voting.


Bernie for example is too left for me... but someone like Pence would be far too right for me.


I actually aligned most closely with Tulsi Gabbard of all the Dem options.. plus, she's pretty good lookin ;o)
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Originally Posted By AccountingMajor⏩
Then tell.me what red policy do you support.
What do you mean, 'Red Policy'.

It would help if you stopped using catch phrases and just asked plain questions....
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Originally Posted By AccountingMajor⏩
He has conservative beliefs but is OK with CA democrats stripping his rights away.
You can not deny that his 2A beliefs are inline with most conservatives. And that's all I commented on.

Minus the cold dead hands part.
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Originally Posted By AdamWW⏩
What do you mean, 'Red Policy'.

It would help if you stopped using catch phrases and just asked plain questions....
What Conservative ideas do you agree with that don't involved guns?

What are things that typically Republicans push for that you support.

Example medicare for illegals. Liberal = yes. moderate would vote no, conservative would not even be a question.
Sanctuary city for illegals. Red would vote no, liberal votes yes

Higher gas tax, soda tax, property tax, sales tax, inform tax. Liberals would vote yes, conservatives vote no

Shutting down big tech liberals vote no, conservatives vote yes

Green new deal
Liberals vote yes, conservatives vote no

Stricter punishment for Crime
Liberals vote no, conservatives vote yes

Example lowering the cost to steal to only $250 from $950 would be a felony in CA. Liberals voted no conservatives voted yes.
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Originally Posted By AccountingMajor⏩
Then tell.me what red policy do you support.
If you mean what ideas do I hold which aren't typically leftist....

- I am pro-death penalty
- I am pro-gun (for the most part given the conditions I mentioned)
- I am for generally more right-leaning restrictions on immigration and border control being higher/more strict
- I am generally more fiscally conservative when it comes to taxes on individuals but not necessarily on corporations (I think corporate tax loopholes are bogus in many cases)

Those are probably the most notable ones.

But, I am more left on:

- Abortion
- Separate of Church/State
- Healthcare
- Military Spending




Also, what does 'shutting down big tech' mean?

What is 'cost to steal'?
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Haven't even been following this anymore.

Does donny have a chance still through the courts? Or is it over and time to LDAR?
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Originally Posted By AdamWW⏩
Right... and honestly it does make the voting process or identifying with a party difficult because there are things about the left-leaning/liberal viewpoints I totally disagree with, but when all is considered that is where I usually end up.

Hence why I typically try not to say I am left or right, because either option carried with it an insane stigma that most folks just use to pigeonhole individuals as though there's no nuance to the thought process.

There are conservatives out there who hate guns, there are liberals who love guns... there are liberals who are pro-life, and their are conservatives who are pro-choice...

I simply refuse to believe that in order to share my opinions I have to be reduced to RED or BLUE... even if that's how we ultimately end up voting.


Bernie for example is too left for me... but someone like Pence would be far too right for me.


I actually aligned most closely with Tulsi Gabbard of all the Dem options.. plus, she's pretty good lookin ;o)
Ya I've actually had a shift in thinking lately, I was hardcore pro life, if you kill a baby your a POS, but then I read a post recently by a poster named the theadlerian and man, he explained it in a way that I understood, but more importantly he was able to explain the reason behind the liberal excuses of "just cells" and that kind of chit that would make me rage and push me further right.... after some thought I'm Now definitely open to pro choice, and I dare to say am leaning pro choice (but similar to your 2A stance it would not register enough on my radar to effect my vote)
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Originally Posted By CanuckGame⏩
Haven't even been following this anymore.

Does donny have a chance still through the courts? Or is it over and time to LDAR?
This thread has turned into more of a kumbaya, R&P sticky is active though.
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