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Testosterone still on the decline (2020 study)

There was the 2007 study that threw up a red flag

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17062768/
Results: We observe a substantial age-independent decline in T that does not appear to be attributable to observed changes in explanatory factors, including health and lifestyle characteristics such as smoking and obesity. The estimated population-level declines are greater in magnitude than the cross-sectional declines in T typically associated with age.
Conclusions: These results indicate that recent years have seen a substantial, and as yet unrecognized, age-independent population-level decrease in T in American men, potentially attributable to birth cohort differences or to health or environmental effects not captured in observed data.
Now a more recent study that came out this past January says its still declining. This study is apparently the first one done on adolescent/young adult men
https://sci-hub.tf/https://doi.org/1...xm.2019.11.010
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Whacking off at Instagram asses doesn't increase test

Who knew.

Competition, physical exertion & chasing skirts does.
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Poor diet, exposure to harmful chemicals, lack of sunlight, lack of exercise. Smoking actually raises test.
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Yup, xeno estrogens and a sedentary lifestyle ****s you up.

OP what does the study say about estrogen levels? Increase?

Brb everyone popping AI's like arimidex to counter all the chemical **** feminizing men.
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Originally Posted By hoganrulz⏩
Whacking off at Instagram asses doesn't increase test

Who knew.

Competition, physical exertion & chasing skirts does.
that's cope. more so due to all the pollutants in the water, air and food. even the coating of non-stick pans have been proven to lower testosterone levels

micro plastics are in the water supply and most people drink from plastic bottles.




men raised in 3rd world countries have higher testosterone levels but lower HGH
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Originally Posted By Dennis71⏩
Test levels 1000ng/dl rn



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Doesn't count when you're riding in the tour de france
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I read recently that over consumption of dairy products, cheese in particular can lower testosterone levels. If true, with the Wuhan virus lock downs in Democrat run states, Dominos business has been doing good business I've read.

https://vitalityinternalmedicine.com...20testosterone.

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Various kinds of cheeses are available in many romantic supper dates (pasta, pizza…etc.). Even though consumption of daily is not bad, it isn’t recommended to take such high amounts on a regular basis. Cheese made from cow’s milk can seriously mess with your body’s organic hormonal production. Not only that, but most cheeses will contain synthetic hormones that can conflict with your body’s hormones.

It is to be understood here that cheese consumption is not bad; it is the overconsumption these foods that lower testosterone. Don’t let these foods do harm and risk lowering your testosterone.....
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Originally Posted By bfdehewdbyywhn⏩
that's cope. more so due to all the pollutants in the water, air and food. even the coating of non-stick pans have been proven to lower testosterone levels

micro plastics are in the water supply and most people drink from plastic bottles.




men raised in 3rd world countries have higher testosterone levels but lower HGH
3rd world countries are more polluted.

India/China for example.

And those things are common knowledge & have been prevalent since the dates studied in the paper (i think).

Unless plastic water bottles & none stick pans didnt exist in the 90s.
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Originally Posted By hoganrulz⏩
3rd world countries are more polluted.

India/China for example.

And those things are common knowledge & have been prevalent since the dates studied in the paper (i think).

Unless plastic water bottles & none stick pans didnt exist in the 90s.
the food makes a massive difference. American kids are eating genetically modified foods, artificial sugars, and trans fats. then they wonder why they look like shtt and have low test

microwaving food in plastic. plastics in clothing all have ben proven to lower testosterone



left: normal chicken from a 3rd world country

right: American chicken
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Originally Posted By ****inator⏩
Doesn't count when you're riding in the tour de france
Lol


Tour de france would have someone over 3000ng/dl
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Originally Posted By bfdehewdbyywhn⏩
the food makes a massive difference. American kids are eating genetically modified foods, artificial sugars, and trans fats. then they wonder why they look like shtt and have low test



left: normal chicken from a 3rd world country

right: American chicken
Wouldn't eating hormone infused foods introduce more of said hormones in one's body?
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Originally Posted By hoganrulz⏩
Wouldn't eating hormone infused foods introduce more of said hormones in one's body?
not testosterone. I've said before that HGH levels for American children will be higher than that of their average third world counterpart

its why most kids outgrow their immigrant parents
Some of the approved drugs are synthetic versions of the natural hormones, such as trenbolone acetate and zeranol. Just like the natural hormone implants, before FDA approved these drugs, FDA required information and/or toxicological testing in laboratory animals to determine safe levels in the animal products that we eat (edible tissues).Furthermore, FDA required that the manufacturers demonstrate that the amount of hormone left in each edible tissue after treatment is below the appropriate safe level. As described above, a safe level is a level which would be expected to have no harmful effect in humans.
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Originally Posted By bfdehewdbyywhn⏩
the food makes a massive difference. American kids are eating genetically modified foods, artificial sugars, and trans fats. then they wonder why they look like shtt and have low test

microwaving food in plastic. plastics in clothing all have ben proven to lower testosterone



left: normal chicken from a 3rd world country

right: American chicken
Wrong. The picture on the left was the average chicken from a first world country in 1957.
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Originally Posted By bfdehewdbyywhn⏩
not testosterone. I've said before that HGH levels for American children will be higher than that of their average third world counterpart

its why most kids outgrow their immigrant parents
Really, that's interesting that ingestion of testosterone infused foods wouldn't have a positive impact on test.
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Originally Posted By hoganrulz⏩
Wouldn't eating hormone infused foods introduce more of said hormones in one's body?
I think the guy took exception to you criticising whacking off to instagram asses lol

I don't think chickens are even given hormones, they're just selectively bred to be monstrous. Herbicides like atrazine get infused into the soil and affect everything though. The rabid anti-saturated fat propaganda probably has a lot to do with it. People are obsessed with 'lean meat' and cholesterol being bad for you. There are too many factors to pin it on one thing, everything mentioned ITT contributes.
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Originally Posted By MaesterSeymour⏩
Wrong. The picture on the left was the average chicken from a first world country in 1957.
my own parents were raised on the chicken on the left and say American chicken tastes like ****. the right is the American standard for year 2000+

just lol at eating progesterone chicken made to shtt out dozens of eggs a day and grow unnaturally quick
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Originally Posted By bfdehewdbyywhn⏩
the food makes a massive difference. American kids are eating genetically modified foods, artificial sugars, and trans fats. then they wonder why they look like shtt and have low test



left: normal chicken from a 3rd world country

right: American chicken
Trans fats are less now than they were in the 90s. Negative press about trans fats pressured mfgs to produce trans fat free foods. The phobia of trans fats started in the mid 90shttps://academic.oup.com/nutritionre.../5/138/1820288

If I were to guess, I'd say heavy metals or pollution. But as someone posted above, pollution was bad in the 90s when test was higher. So there goes that idea.

Maybe not enough vitamin E? Lot of research seems to show vitamin e protects the testicles from things like cadmium and mercury. Going down a list of foods that contain a lot of vitamin E, I don't think Americans get much of it.
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Originally Posted By PenorBrahNoHomo⏩
I think the guy took exception to you criticising whacking off to instagram asses lol

I don't think chickens are even given hormones, they're just selectively bred to be monstrous. Herbicides like atrazine get infused into the soil and affect everything though. The rabid anti-saturated fat propaganda probably has a lot to do with it. People are obsessed with 'lean meat' and cholesterol being bad for you. There are too many factors to pin it on one thing, everything mentioned ITT contributes.
Definitely, didn't want to bring this up but US government for generations has been cucked by FDA lobbyists who don't care about society (which is fine, capitalism & all) but its the government's job to regulate what they can actually get away with feeding people since free market no regs won't work if people are already eating themselves in to chemical castration.
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Originally Posted By ParsleyTea⏩
I read recently that over consumption of dairy products, cheese in particular can lower testosterone levels. If true, with the Wuhan virus lock downs in Democrat run states, Dominos business has been doing good business I've read.


Various kinds of cheeses are available in many romantic supper dates (pasta, pizza…etc.). Even though consumption of daily is not bad, it isn’t recommended to take such high amounts on a regular basis. Cheese made from cow’s milk can seriously mess with your body’s organic hormonal production. Not only that, but most cheeses will contain synthetic hormones that can conflict with your body’s hormones.

It is to be understood here that cheese consumption is not bad; it is the overconsumption these foods that lower testosterone. Don’t let these foods do harm and risk lowering your testosterone.....
Beef too
they BUSTING the cows and milking them 2 times a day to pull 10 gallons of milk out of them

so beef, milk and milk products lower your test and turn you into a women with all those womanly hormones..

mine all ready increased by 58% by discontinuing meat consumption
it's probably in the 70-80% increased by now as that test was done 3 months ago.

225, 9 months ago> 356, 3 months ago > est 400-425 range now...

by my next test in a few months march* it will be in the 500-700 range
I have big balls size of medium size eggs..


lot of lies on tv Steaks and burgers are not manly LOL


I never had an issues with cholesterol 135 total is my baseline
currently 122 total
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Originally Posted By Anonymous000⏩
Beef too
they BUSTING the cows and milking them 2 times a day to pull 10 gallons of milk out of them

so beef, milk and milk products lower your test and turn you into a women with all those womanly hormones..

mine all ready increased by 58% by discontinuing meat consumption
it's probably in the 70-80% increased by now as that test was done 3 months ago.

225, 9 months ago> 356, 3 months ago > est 400-425 range now...

by my next test in a few months march* it will be in the 500-700 range
I have big balls size of medium size eggs..


lot of lies on tv Steaks and burgers are not manly LOL


I never had an issues with cholesterol 135 total is my baseline
currently 122 total
10 year old account with 49 posts comes in to tell you to stop eating meat, not suspect at all. We all know vegetarians and vegans have test through the roof!

Quality meat, eggs and dairy are foods which are generallygoodfor testosterone production!
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Originally Posted By bfdehewdbyywhn⏩
the food makes a massive difference. American kids are eating genetically modified foods, artificial sugars, and trans fats. then they wonder why they look like shtt and have low test

microwaving food in plastic. plastics in clothing all have ben proven to lower testosterone
When I was growing up eating Kid Cuisine and other bullchit, the instructions always said to remove the plastic wrap before microwaving. Now all of my TV dinners say to leave it on. There’s no way consuming melted plastic is good for you.
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Originally Posted By GuineaDago585⏩
When I was growing up eating Kid Cuisine and other bullchit, the instructions always said to remove the plastic wrap before microwaving. Now all of my TV dinners say to leave it on. There’s no way consuming melted plastic is good for you.
The containers themselves are made of plastic. If you're going to eat microwavable meals always tip them onto a plate before heating.
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Originally Posted By ****inator⏩
Doesn't count when you're riding in the tour de france
Better than being low test naturally.

Or are some of you unaware of the poor health conditions correlated to low T?

Pretty sure most males should be on TRT right now. It’s not a bad thing. People need to stop stigmatizing it because that’s why we have so many soyboys running around.

Medicate up in all your ADHD meds but god forbid you supplement to get your T levels in normal range.
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Originally Posted By SoutheastBeast1⏩
Better than being low test naturally.

Or are some of you unaware of the poor health conditions correlated to low T?

Pretty sure most males should be on TRT right now. It’s not a bad thing. People need to stop stigmatizing it because that’s why we have so many soyboys running around.

Medicate up in all your ADHD meds but god forbid you supplement to get your T levels in normal range.
Isn't it better to use HCG or serm's to try and get your level up? TRT is still a lifetime commitment.
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Here’s an interesting vid I’ve just watched. Insta/social media making us all betas

https://youtu.be/xpVnXJl3GK8

Originally Posted By ParsleyTea⏩
I read recently that over consumption of dairy products, cheese in particular can lower testosterone levels. If true, with the Wuhan virus lock downs in Democrat run states, Dominos business has been doing good business I've read.

https://vitalityinternalmedicine.com...20testosterone.

excerpt:

Various kinds of cheeses are available in many romantic supper dates (pasta, pizza…etc.). Even though consumption of daily is not bad, it isn’t recommended to take such high amounts on a regular basis. Cheese made from cow’s milk can seriously mess with your body’s organic hormonal production. Not only that, but most cheeses will contain synthetic hormones that can conflict with your body’s hormones.

It is to be understood here that cheese consumption is not bad; it is the overconsumption these foods that lower testosterone. Don’t let these foods do harm and risk lowering your testosterone.....
LOOL dairy is not decreasing test. If anything, we are eating LESS dairy than we used to since now everyone’s drinking soy and other hippie milks because of the fear mongering around dairy. The hormones in dairy are minuscule and will be deactivated by the liver.

I would say the biggest diet factor is the increase in processed junk foods and vegetable oils over the years, and everyone avoiding red meat, eggs and yea, full fat dairy products, that actually support hormone production.

Not to mention the rampant use of pesticides and other hormonal disrupting chemicals in our so called ‘healthy’ food supply (grains, vegetables...)
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It's all the estrogen in tapwater and in the food we eat. It's pretty obvious the government prefer low test males. Less aggressive violent groups of people are easier to control.
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