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post 1622974241 11-18-2020, 08:30 AM
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Guess crack ******* back in the late 80's wasn't so bad either.
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Originally Posted By devin45k⏩
Vice is the most braindead hipster garbage form of media out there.


They legit had a piece on how white people shouldn't be allowed to go on vacation.....Im sure it was written by some self-hating white dude also.
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post 1622976831 11-18-2020, 09:02 AM
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it's really addictive
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Originally Posted By Pheg⏩
The #1 scariest thing about this drug is never mentioned. People mention the teeth and appearance, but how about the fact that this drug releases the most dopamine in your brain that you can possibly release. There is quite literally no other drug, or experience, than can even come close to releasing the amount of dopamine that meth releases. This reaction in the brain is neurotoxic, it destroys the dopamine receptor. Dopamine receptors can recover to some extent, but it takes a very long time, and often do not recover fully.

So what does this mean? It means even if a user beats the addiction (which is quite rare, I think relapse rate is 96%), their ability to feel pleasure will be diminished for years and years, possibly for the rest of their lives. You can read accounts of former meth users who now, 10 years down the road of sobriety, feel zero pleasure from anything, including sex.
I honestly don't believe this for a second. I don't know a single person who would pick meth over the white lady if they were the same price per minute of high. People do meth because they can't afford to stay jacked up all the time on yayo. The white stuff lasts 45 min to an hour where meth lasts 12 hours for about the same price. If you want a dopamine hit there are a bunch of other drugs out there that will give you a much better one
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post 1622978821 11-18-2020, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted By resoog⏩
it's really addictive
There are awesome things in life that you are better off not knowing about.

I've got the willpower to try hard drugs once but understanding that I would only do them once makes the proposition of knowing how awesome they make you feel insanely unappealing.

Its like being a 5/10 and getting to smash your idea of a 10/10 for 1 night. You are going to be ruined forever.
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Originally Posted By MuslimBrahSwag⏩
found the dude whose done meth (probably more than once)
lol i barely even drink, i certainly havent done meth or been in the same room as someone doing it.

I am just disputing the notion they put out in DARE classes that you are instantly addicted to any given substance if you did it once. Meth is chemically very similar to the chit they are prescribing children for ADHD. It is entirely possible to do it just once and in fact it excuses the personal responsibility aspect of addicts by saying its not their fault they got hooked.
post 1622979361 11-18-2020, 09:31 AM
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Chit its the devil and will phuck your brain up. Its worse than heroin in the grand scheme of things
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post 1622981381 11-18-2020, 09:52 AM
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"do things that lead to a future where you are more likely to be dependent on the state"
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Originally Posted By Pheg⏩
There is no other drug that gives a "much better" dopamine hit than meth. Crack might be up there though. The reason people choose pepsi over meth is because pepsi is socially acceptable. It is for the same reasons people choose pepsi over crack, it is nearly the same thing, crack is probably a better high, but social stigma exists.

Either way, the mechanism of action between pepsi and meth is different, pepsi being a dopamine reuptake inhibitor and meth being a dopamine releaser. My main point still stands, meth is neurotoxic. Reuptake inhibitors are much less neurotoxic

EDIT: "In general, MA causes three times more release of dopamine than ******* and has a half life of 12 hours compared to *******’s one hour. If administered via smoking, MA produces a high for 8-24 hours, whereas ******* produces a high for 20-30 minutes.[2] See Table 1 for a summary of the differences between methamphetamine and *******. "
https://methoide.fcm.arizona.edu/inf...x.cfm?stid=173
Brother I used to know drug addicts and have tried everything under the sun myself. It has nothing to do with social acceptability and everything to do with the way it makes you feel. Your edit even backs up what I'm saying. The people who do meth are either poor or want to stay skint back 24/7, usually both
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"in 2018, 14.1 million Americans reported using the drug at least once."

yeah no lol
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post 1622984871 11-18-2020, 10:23 AM
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I’ve seen someone addicted to meth and the way it makes you lose touch with reality and become delusional is really sad to see. Meth and heroin are probably the only drugs I think that should remain illegal
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Meth is also one of the most misunderstood and unfairly stigmatized of all the illegal drugs
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post 1622985381 11-18-2020, 10:28 AM
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also loling at them normalizing meth use

Meth, Heroin, Crack are junkie drugs and only junkie low lives use them

lol @ socially acceptable

the ONLY guys who use meth look like Jesse Pinkman
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lmfao at Vice it used to be interesting years ago though, but anyways these drug safe spaces coming soon to a city near you just lol.



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Originally Posted By Dontoewsmebro⏩
lmfao at Vice it used to be interesting years ago though, but anyways these drug safe spaces coming soon to a city near you just lol.
They are creating and normalizing an entire class of people.

"What do I do? I get high and vote Democrat ..... yeah that."
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To be fair, we give little Timmy a prescription to meth-lite when he cant pay attention in class......
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Originally Posted By nm1891⏩
To be fair, we give little Timmy a prescription to meth-lite when he cant pay attention in class......
We should literally execute the people that used an entire generation of children for medical research.

My daughter's class had so many kids on loads of meds and a bunch of them have already offed themselves. A bunch more are already officially "disabled" or flat out addicts.
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Originally Posted By latverian41⏩
Chit its the devil and will phuck your brain up. Its worse than heroin in the grand scheme of things
You realize alcohol abuse is almost on par with both those 2 right?
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Did not watch, but don't forget that millions of children are on amphetamine meds on a daily basis (practically a low-dose of meth, srs).

Have you ever tried concerta or ritalin or vyvance? Low dose ampthetamine. feelsgoodman
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Vice has been trash for the longest time now.I think they used to be decent, but I might be mixing them up with someone else.
They were, in the beginning. Really good content, but they got bought out? or sold several years ago and turned HARD LEFT and are no full blown commie propaganda.
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Originally Posted By nosirrahx⏩
We should literally execute the people that used an entire generation of children for medical research.

My daughter's class had so many kids on loads of meds and a bunch of them have already offed themselves. A bunch more are already officially "disabled" or flat out addicts.
Completely agree. What we've allowed them to do to our children is fuking criminal srs, when will we wake up as a whole?
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Originally Posted By knightofday⏩
Completely agree. What we've allowed them to do to our children is fuking criminal srs, when will we wake up as a whole?
There's a harrowing problem with the medical model as a whole srs. Drugs don't solve everything. For many issues, they simply act as a bandaid.
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I knew a guy who did it pretty regularly for like a year. Well knew is one of putting it, but it was a guy I was in the marine corps with years ago. He lost so much weight became a twink pretty much. Was brushing his teeth like 24/7 and eventually ended up in the hospital a few times. I’m pretty sure he stopped now but he ended up divorced, jobless and moved back in with his mom.

Yeah not that bad.

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I heard meth makes a pretty good pre workout. Can anyone confirm?
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im sure meth is fine once a year or something. but the come down is horrible and very tempting to re-dose. thats why many abuse it and get trapped in a cycle. im sure many people have tried and walked away, but the ones that get hooked go on a path of destruction
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Watched that vid like an hour ago. Pretty much tuned it out once they started trying to normalize hard-drug use behavior. Degeneracy, not even once.
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Originally Posted By TheMusketeer⏩
"It's not that America has a meth problem, but more that it has both a prohibition problem and a capitalism problem."

- VICE 2020

It has both, but I think less people would try meth if they could get clean pharmaceutical grade racemic amphetamine without going to the black market and paying 100x the cost for cut product.

Some people will always go for the dirtiest most potent chit regardless of the consequences, but that's a minority. Same with heroin and fent. Give people access to clean pharm grade hyrdo and oxy and most will never progress to the needle.

Overdoses will plummet with readily known measured dosing and predictable outcomes.
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Originally Posted By lightsarefallin⏩
There's a harrowing problem with the medical model as a whole srs. Drugs don't solve everything. For many issues, they simply act as a bandaid.
1000% agree, big pharma has completely destroyed true medicine in the west. When you go to the doctor, and they recommend 3 Rx drugs to try without even blinking, you KNOW there's something majorly fuked up in our country.

Not only are most just a bandaid, they actually create MORE problems that they try and treat with more drugs. I have seen healthy seniors go from no meds to a fuking drawer full in like a few months srs.


Its like your car making a weird noise, and ordering $500 in parts without even troubleshooting, madness. Many think its normal because its nationwide, it is absolutely NOT
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