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post 1623176941 11-20-2020, 08:12 AM
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The universe could be infinite and have no life

The so called universe (assuming it exists), could just be an infinite number of planets and stars with none of them containing any sort of life-form what so ever. Imagine having an infinite piece of paper. On it you can draw as many lifeless planets as you can. None of them has to contain any life. We could be alone in this so called universe. Or we could be in some type of simulation.

There is no solid evidence that the uiniverse exist tho, since no one has experienced the so called universe directly. We experience the universe indirectly through a so called brain and sensory system. No one has actually been out there, we´re just experiencing it from IN here.

Grasping infinity is not easy for the human mind. Connect with infinity, but to do that you have to remove yourself from the equation. There is no borders, so there can be no border that corners off the universe, can be no edge of the universe, because borders is all made up.

Since the universe is infinite because how can it not be, when there is no border to seperate it from other. Space and time loses meaning.

THEREFORE, any sort of space exploration and such is completely meaningless and uninteresting to me. So what if we find other civilizations and water on other planets. So the fukk what? It doesn´t change anything at the ground level. Okay, it´s a little interesting, but no matter how much we explore we will still be stuck at the same place.

There is nothing that seperates there from here, in the ultimate sense.
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Pretty sure theres other life somewhere in the billions of galaxies out there. Not like we'll ever meet it
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Originally Posted By supup⏩
Pretty sure theres other life somewhere in the billions of galaxies out there. Not like we'll ever meet it
Thats a popular belief, but it´s just that, a belief. A tendency to believe in something more to give hope and faith, instead of fear of nothingness.
It might as well be the opposite. It might as well be completely lifeless. An infinite void of nothingness. The center of the universe is yourself, there is no objective center of the universe.
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Originally Posted By MYOFIBRAH⏩
that was the stupidest most autism bread roll ever posted on the misc.
The thread is meant to make you ponder. The most popular belief is that some form of life exists in the universe out there somewhere. How could it not if there´s billions of galaxies?
But not in this thread...Here the belief that we´re all alone, is the belief that triumphs. Lose hope and embrace fear. Why wouldn´t be all alone in this supposed universe, why not.
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Boring solipsism OP, try harder.

Also, the most likely shape of the universe is a 4D hypertorus which is finite without boundary (think pacman in 3 spatial dimensions).
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Originally Posted By PenorBrahNoHomo⏩
Boring solipsism OP, try harder.

Also, the most likely shape of the universe is a 4D hypertorus which is finite without boundary (think pacman in 3 spatial dimensions).
Another belief I see. The universe having a shape lmao. How can something infinite have a shape? I can say that my ego has a shape as well, doesn´t make it true. What is outside the universe? More universe, another universe or nothing at all? What is nothing?

Can you take me to the border of the universe and show it to me? I need to see with my own eyes. I will measure the border of the universe with my tape measurerer. Thanks
This question is so far above current science and understanding, thats it´s all laughable speculations.
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The universe only exists in your mind srs along with everything else. It could be infinitely big with zero life but it is still being generated by your mind
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Originally Posted By PimpMasterC⏩
The thread is meant to make you ponder. The most popularbelief is that some form of life exists in the universe out there somewhere. How could it not if there´s billions of galaxies?
But not in this thread...Here thebelief that we´re all alone, is thebelief that triumphs. Lose hope and embrace fear. Why wouldn´t be all alone in this supposed universe, why not.
That is the problem with your thread. You didn't provide any argument for or against other life in space. You Just about some possible belief. You never gave a reasonwhy to believe it.

1) There is life in the universe. We exist.
2) Here is an argument.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox
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Originally Posted By PimpMasterC⏩
Another belief I see. The universe having a shape lmao. How can something infinite have a shape? I can say that my ego has a shape as well, doesn´t make it true. What is outside the universe? More universe, another universe or nothing at all? What is nothing?

Can you take me to the border of the universe and show it to me? I need to see with my own eyes. I will measure the border of the universe with my tape measurerer. Thanks
This question is so far above current science and understanding, thats it´s all laughable speculations.
Every time you post, you prove how much more of a moron you are.

There is most definitely life elsewhere.

Now is there ** intelligent ** life? That is probably very, very, very rare.
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You may be right. You may also be completely wrong. We'll likely never know, but it certainly is fun to discuss the possibilities.

I personally find it rather silly to BELIEVE we are alone in this (possibly) endless universe, containing BILLIONS of galaxies.
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Imagine being so vain that you believe you are special enough to be the only life in an infinite universe.

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Imagine being so arrogant you KNOW there is other life in the universe. A universe no one even has experienced directly. You don´t see the universe and neither does your brain. The univers is just a concept, and so are aliens, solar systems and stars. There is no proof of either one, but you *******s cling on to your belief, like it´s life or death.

We actually don´t know if there are billions of galaxies out there, as images have shown. It´s just a rumor told to you by other people that themselves are not objective. Those supposed galaxies can be gone now, for all we know. Or is someone observing those galaxies right now in this moment from an objective set of eyes. They could all have vaporated by now, for all we know.




I remember showing this video to a girl I dated back in the day. Amazing video, but makes me cringe when looking back at it. This stuff doesns´t ressonate with most people, I guess.

I´m at the center of the universe, and you can´t prove that I´m not. In dreamland, everything is relative.
You being so convinced that other life exists, is no less objective than me believing there isn´t. Ego is deluded and loves to make up it´s own imaginary stories and beliefs.
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Believing there's no life out there somewhere is like believing there's no water anywhere in the universe except for earth.
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There could be intelligent life somewhere that is way ahead of or way behind where we are.
There could have existed advanced civilizations that no longer exist.
There could and most likely will exist new civilizations that have yet to evolve intelligence.

All of these things are so highly probable that it would be almost impossible to say there is not intelligent life elsewhere.
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This "so called" thread is so called.

Part of space exploration is to find another liveable planet to protect the human race in the future. Often times pop culture makes aliens seem ancient and advanced. What if humans are the first and will one day be the ancient race patrolling the universe?

Is there other life? I think the odds are very likely. Intelligence is something else.
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There is just as much of a chance that life exists elsewhere as there is that you actually exist.
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Originally Posted By PimpMasterC⏩
We actually don´t know if there are billions of galaxies out there, as images have shown. It´s just a rumor told to you by other people that themselves are not objective.
Accordingly to NASA, the observable universe contains an estimated 200 billion galaxies.

Oh, that's right... a random tard on a bodybuilding forum says otherwise. Thanks for clearing that up!

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Originally Posted By PimpMasterC⏩
Imagine being so arrogant you KNOW there is other life in the universe.
If John flips a fair coin (with heads, tails) 100,000 times in an enclosed room where you can’t see it, you don’t “KNOW” he flipped at least one heads....but you can be pretty dam near certain he did.

We don’t know for sure about life elsewhere. But with scientific progress, maybe we will one day. Life elsewhere, especially intelligent life, will be the ultimate blow to anthropocentricism. Mankind’s belief in a universe centered around himself has been slowly degraded over the past several centuries starting with heliocentricism.

The rest of your post about galaxies, as well as the OP is mindless babble, which is not surprising since this is the mindless anti-science poster from the corona threads.

All I got from the OP is that you don’t know how to spell “separate”...not much more from that babble.
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Originally Posted By Drew23⏩
There could be intelligent life somewhere that is way ahead of or way behind where we are.
There could have existed advanced civilizations that no longer exist.
There could and most likely will exist new civilizations that have yet to evolve intelligence.

All of these things are so highly probable that it would be almost impossible to say there is not intelligent life elsewhere.
They are highly probable until they´re not. The probability of these questions don´t have a solid foundation. Just because there is one pink sandcorn on the beach amongst the trillions of sandcorns, doesn´t mean there´s more of them. The answer is already decided, destiny is decided. I don´t know the answer to the quesion, but it depends on what "life" really means. There is no solid proof of a planet earth either. Everyone that claims there is a planet earth, is biased. They don´t look at the situation with clear eyes, because eyes don´t exist.

Reality is perfect and wether other life exist or not, won´t change this fact.
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There is just as much of a chance that life exists elsewhere as there is that you actually exist.
This so called thread may not exist. Depends on the definition. PimpMasterC may not exist. I´m maybe a robot or just a made up character. When this thread is one day deleted, it will be like it never even existed.

Maybe I was hypnotized yesterday to believe I´m a human on planet earth, and I was instructed to forget about it.
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Originally Posted By numberguy12⏩
If John flips a fair coin (with heads, tails) 100,000 times in an enclosed room where you can’t see it, you don’t “KNOW” he flipped at least one heads....but you can be pretty dam near certain he did.

The rest of your post about galaxies, as well as the OP is mindless babble, which is not surprising since this is the mindless anti-science poster from the corona threads.

All I got from the OP is that you don’t know how to spell “separate”...not much more from that babble.
Comparing it to a coin flip is not a good comparison. I don´t know if other life exists or not, and neither do you. This thread was made to challenge the common belief that "of course there is other life out there somewhere, how couldn´t it be." Which is just an assumption that many people cling to, for some reason.

And there is pshycology behind it to why people cling to that beleif, it´s not only about probability. It´s a defense mechanism of the human ego, to try to fill in the gap of the unknown. To try and fill nothingness with somethingness. It´s because of fear. Fear of nothingness forever

Science is an expert in finding casuality in a dream world. A dream world which has no stability, because it could be all over at any point. Sure, they have a supposed long time period to learn from and see patterns from. But that time period is actually very short in the grand scheme of things, and it´s actually an illusion.

Science is based on a bunch of assumptions, which can´t be proven true. But, it´s good I guess. Just not true
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Originally Posted By PimpMasterC⏩
Another belief I see. The universe having a shape lmao. How can something infinite have a shape? I can say that my ego has a shape as well, doesn´t make it true. What is outside the universe? More universe, another universe or nothing at all? What is nothing?

Can you take me to the border of the universe and show it to me? I need to see with my own eyes. I will measure the border of the universe with my tape measurerer. Thanks
This question is so far above current science and understanding, thats it´s all laughable speculations.
Most likely based on observations of the curvature of space, and the amount of matter in the universe by satellites yes. How could I take you to the border when there is, like I said, no boundary? The universe is most likely finite with no boundary but obviously no one knows for sure.

You are a poverty philosopher.
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Originally Posted By PenorBrahNoHomo⏩
Most likely based on observations of the curvature of space, and the amount of matter in the universe by satellites yes. How could I take you to the border when there is, like I said, no boundary?

You are a poverty philosopher.
Those observations are not objective and can´t be proven true. No one has actually made those observations. A set of eyes somwhere may have made such an observation, but we can´t trust that those eyes look upon reality from an objective viewpoint. The curvative of the universe is just a belief that scientists masturbate over. Sure, it can be interesting, and maybe the´re on to something. But sadly, it can never be proven true.

The human mind is an expert in contructing something out of nothinig, and always seek to do so. It´s useful to our survival, but such contructions, like the universe, can´t be proven to be true. The universe is a concept, and you can build more concepts on top of it, like how that concept is shaped.

Thats what science does. Just building out theories and concepts on top of another. And constructing so called truths out from those concepts. Come up with a concept that can be backed by"facts", laws and logic. Find a casuality, empiric evidence or whatever and baaboom. You have a theory that can get accepted by others, and maybe be useful. Doesn´t make it ultimately true, because it started out from a flawed perspective. Just makes it as true as it seems, but since it doesn´t rest on the ultimate pillar of existence, it could break down at any moment, and thus no longer have any relevance.

That concept just has consensus, and can partly temporarily be proven to be true, if no laws change. But those laws, like gravity, could change at any moment, and thus prove the theory to be false.
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Originally Posted By PimpMasterC⏩
Comparing it to a coin flip is not a good comparison. I don´t know if other life exists or not, and neither do you. This thread was made to challenge the common belief that "of course there is other life out there somewhere, how couldn´t it be." Which is just an assumption that many people cling to, for some reason.
It is true there is a difference since in one scenario the probabilities involved are precisely known. But it was an example to show that even if you don’t “KNOW” something with certainty, you can still make educated guesses in light of the situation and sample size.

Attempts have been made to estimate the probability of intelligent life, such as the Drake equation...these attempts are in no way exact though.

We don’t know anything about ET life for sure. But since there are an estimated thousand billion billion stars out there or whatever, it would be foolish to claim Earth life is alone with any kind of certainty...
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Originally Posted By PimpMasterC⏩
Imagine being so arrogant you KNOW there is other life in the universe. A universe no one even has experienced directly. You don´t see the universe and neither does your brain. The univers is just a concept, and so are aliens, solar systems and stars. There is no proof of either one, but you *******s cling on to your belief, like it´s life or death.

We actually don´t know if there are billions of galaxies out there, as images have shown. It´s just a rumor told to you by other people that themselves are not objective. Those supposed galaxies can be gone now, for all we know. Or is someone observing those galaxies right now in this moment from an objective set of eyes. They could all have vaporated by now, for all we know.




I remember showing this video to a girl I dated back in the day. Amazing video, but makes me cringe when looking back at it. This stuff doesns´t ressonate with most people, I guess.

I´m at the center of the universe, and you can´t prove that I´m not. In dreamland, everything is relative.
You being so convinced that other life exists, is no less objective than me believing there isn´t. Ego is deluded and loves to make up it´s own imaginary stories and beliefs.
I see exactly where you’re coming from and unfortunately for you most people in here will misinterpret it as dumb etc but you are coming at it from a higher consciousness level thinking I see u brah srs
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