According to feminist misc ITT that makes you a Joe Biden tier pradophile, so welcome to the club brah.

These two posts sum up this whole thread in hilarious fashion.

I think there are two discussions going on here.

1) The '****' brahs (myself included): from a purely biological perspective, an ovulating female is a woman capable of bearing children, regardless of the rest of her development.
2) The more modern views: in our increasingly advanced society, where social and cultural development spans many areas of a persons life, we use to the law to direct our moral beliefs about how people can behave given their level of development. Whether it's the age of consent, 16 give or take, or other responsibilities (age 18, or 21.. or 25), we allow the law to dictate our moral reasoning, rather than viewing a person as a capable individual. We benchmark their mental development and decide 'no, you are not capable of this,' which is a difficult sell, considering how many exceptions there are.

The mother's tattoos make her look trashy. There is no double standard here as she got caught and will go to jail/prison most likely. She probably will get lesser time though.

It's the teachers where the double standards are created, not random ****philes.

So your saying the only thing keeping you from sleeping with a child is the law? Do you not have any morals or understanding of what’s right and wrong?

I think you need some help

Imagine wearing wanting to bang 12 year old girls like a badge of honour and thinking it makes you enlightened.

Holy fuk lmao. Feel so bad for you and the people in your life. And they let this guy work in a school? Jesus christ lol.

I do kind of want this thread to die now but I'm also curious why age of consent laws even exist if it's extremely natural and normal for fully grown men to want to fuk 12 year olds?

Age of consent laws were created by men when men held virtually all the power.

Why weren't the old school alphas taking each others daughters to pound town?

brb dat 12 year old prime puzzy HNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNG

Were they actually closet feminists!??????

(we all know the answer, it isn't normal at all and the majority of men aren't child lovers)

Oops. Feminism was instrumental in legislating the original age of consent laws and have been instrumental in bumping them up a couple years every few decades since then.

As I've said multiple times ITT, consent laws certainly protect vulnerable people but you're playing a losing game trying to assign a specific hard and fast age to those values because they will always be changed when interest groups generate enough buzz for their cause-- whether up or down. Cases should be judged on an individual basis just like with nearly every other crime in the modern world-- like murder.

The truth is that since the creation of man, children have not been having sex.

Sex is supposed to be between a man and a woman, not a boy and a girl. Encouraging young people to have sex is encouraging sexual immorality and causes the degeneration of society.

Normalizing infantile sex like penorbrah is also very strange.

It is actually untrue that people were married at a much younger age many years ago. People were getting married in their 20s in Europe before the dark ages and even then, people were being marri d in their late teens.

Ovulating does not mean ready to have children. Physiologically children are not mature enough to bear the stress of childbirth. A boy old enough to have erections is also not old enough to provide for a family.

Regardless of that, it is disgusting to sexualize children and it is not natural. Man's nature is above that of an animal.

Obviously it is going to vary by country (guessing you were referring to the US)

To be honest I'm sick of this topic now lol

No one will ever convince me that it is normal for a fully grown man to want to fuk a 12 year old girl because she is biologically able to have a baby

I hope no one from this thread ever acts on their feelings at least

Where do laws come from?

Not sure if low IQcel or actually smart and trying to manipulate other people to join the p3do crew.

You got it reversed boyo. Unless there's a lawbook God sent us that I'm unaware of, the laws come from our moral ideas. We try our best as a society to translate our morals into tangible guidelines for society. NOT the other way around like you're pretending. Strong yikes.

What about an 18 year old girl and a 14 year old boy though? Seems to me to be very much within the realm of possibility (and frankly probably happens quite a bit).

Based on hard-and-fast age of consent laws, that bish is gonna end up a phucking felon. Seems to me to be counter to the cause of protecting the vulnerable and ends up saddling a probably completely normal girl with a lifelong sex offense.

Agree though, thread is turning into circle talk because everyone is so dug in on their positions.

Laws are a result of science and human rationale, ideally. But sometimes chitty politics.

I'm not trying to manipulate anyone, I'm only trying to bridge the gap between the two distinct beliefs in this thread, which both contain merit, imo.

Also, I fully agree with your last statement, did I imply something else?

edit: it sounds like you're saying that I've claimed that societal guidelines direct our morality. Which, I guess now that I think about it, is part of the disagreement people are having.

We can all agree laws are derived from the expression of our morality.
But laws are also influenced by increasing scientific knowledge, as well as changing/developing cultural norms.
ITT: people are suggesting that cultural norms have created laws that no longer align with our original mortality - or perhaps even the science! when someone makes a biological argument.

Does this make sense to anyone?

edit edit: Coal man plz respond. This is a good discussion I want to better understand.

Okay so the age of consent around the world, is arbitrarily between 12 and 18 (or basically non existent in middle eastern countries where women are still effectively property).

Forgive me while I get cliché for a sec

At age 18, you can vote and fight and die for your country
Age 21, you can finally drink alcohol
Age 25, insurance companies can manage the risk of renting you a car

Coincidentally...So if we are monitoring behavior on a sliding scale of brain development, 25 is the modern age of adulthood you could say. Everything before that, is culturally (and maybe only partially scientifically) based.

Basically addressed this in one of my first posts ITT.

https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...post1624282731

In this hypothetical scenario, the 14 year old brah would be having the time of his life. The 18 year old girl is weird for wanting to bang a 14 year old boy.

But it's not comparable to what we have been discussing for the past couple of pages.

"Boys/men fuk, girls/women get fuked"

The dynamic is completely different and it is far worse for a young girl to get fuked by an older man than it is for a young boy to fuk an older woman. I honestly think the laws are there to protect girls and we just act like it's the same for boys for "equality" reasons.

This doesn't mean older women can't sexually abuse boys at all. There are definitely situations where an older woman could force herself on a 11/12 year old boy and scar the little kunt for life. At 14/15/16 tho? I have a hard time seeing such a situation.

However, in both cases, I think the older man/woman is in the wrong. I think there is something mentally wrong with you if you are attracted to the idea of sex with a boy/girl of 12/13/14 years of age. This apparently makes me a feminist.

Lol almost 20 pages what a chit storm of a thread

I think you're onto something here.

I just want to point out as well - trauma cannot be objectively judged. There is no science whatsoever that can take a bunch of facts and circumstances about a person, and make a determination about whether or not they've been traumatized. An event that is emotionally and psychologically damaging for one person is not going to have the same effect on the next person. Therefore, we can only rely on an individuals reaction/feelings to an event to determine how it's affected them.

Unfortunately misc is full of basement dwelling peedos.

I stopped trying to argue like 7 pages ago truly twisted individuals ITT

This has literally been my point this whole thread. The boy reported that he was uncomfortable, pushed her off, and then left before coming back to get his friend.

How have we spent all thread ignoring this???

Lots of on and on and on about what ya'll would do or feel but zero about what the child felt.

I think his actions, including phucking the bish, before he reported these feelings do a pretty good job to discredit the probability that he was a victim until his parents and their lawyers found out.

The debate isn't whether or not the sex was consensual in the courts you'll notice, it's whether or not the sloot should get off the hook for believing the brah was 16.

If he gets on the stand and says the same thing his lawyer is saying now, I will of course reconsider. As I've said though, I bet money she gets up there and says she got creampied and he doesn't refute it.

Frankly, it's only part of the discussion, although an important one for sure. Thank goodness the boy had the sense to act on his feelings. The woman obviously put him in a complex and confusing situation he probably wasn't equipped to handle. I remember (age 14) the first time a woman grabbed me by the weiner and rubbed it around her vag. I came almost instantly. Then I freaked out and asked if I was still a virgin XD

WTF is wrong with you?

Where did I ever say I wanted to have sex with teens?

I said when I was a teen I would have had sex with any hot woman my age or older.

And if you weren't thinking about chicks and only video games then you obviously had testosterone problems.

Also age of consent laws weren't put in place just to protect teen girls.

They were put in place to protect parents of teen girls and the financial cost of having to raise your child's child.

That is a big factor in this teen pregnancy.

@TomWanks: The case is about the age, definitely. From what I'm gathering, it's looking like he seemed with it now that I'm digging a bit further in. But I think that's partially because of the way this new article is formatted, detailing how she was cleared of charges.

I'll say that I stand corrected, specifically on the merit that he doesn't exactly sound like he was as uncomfortable as the article made him seem initially. That's been my main point of contention.

Personally, I think she's fukked in the head for even wanting to, though.Leo you keep going back to this thing about testosterone problems but you also pretended to be an alpha slayer on an internet forums for a number of years, so it's incredibly hard to take you seriously about that when you tried to live out a fantasy of being a much more masculine man.

She’s been cleared. Lol.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-new...paign=sharebar

Women have it so hard in the West. So so hard. God the poor things how do they ever survive this all encompassing oppressive patriarchy.

8 Men and 4 woman judged. This is the mens fault!!!

What are you talking about?

What did I pretend about?

I am Jack's complete lack of surprise.

Been called a pradophile 15 times at least for saying the sex was 100% consensual since page 1.

JFL @ women srs.

Am I misattributing this to you, or did you used to have a picture of yourself from like 10-15 years earlier, and talk like you were out slamming tinder chicks?Woah, woah, woah, the pe30 comments people made were in reference to the brahs saying it was cool to fuk 12 year olds.

But lmao if you don't think this chick was fukked in the head and that there isn't something weird about wanting to fuk a 14 year old boy... As opposed toI don't know, anything else?

All that was in question was whether she knew he was under 16 or not. Apparently her innocent small woman bird brain was unaware.

Clearly the sex was consensual, the absolute legend probably was over the moon, his girlfriend found out, got the word out out of jealously, parents and authorities made him act like he was victimised.

Still even if she had been found guilty would have probably got about 3 years serve 18months then get on with her life