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12-10-2020, 04:50 AM
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Originally Posted By Smithers115⏩
Possibly the biggest cope I’ve seen sinceI never think about cut vs uncut dicks so its not cope, but spend 3 seconds thinking how that would work... My natively stretched skin vs your stretched skin via erection isn't doing anything different...
the tip of my dick is pretty smooth/ i can make a girl wet so its not like im dealing with any friction here...
the tip of my dick is pretty smooth/ i can make a girl wet so its not like im dealing with any friction here...
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ROFL at how you are trying hard to hide your pain.
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12-10-2020, 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted By TypeNirvash⏩
Lmao what a passinate response to my obviously intentional chit post. Ofc I was being fecetious, he came in to rustle us by boasting to guys against mutilation without consent that he's going to mutilate his baby.I mean, this is an incredibly facetious way of putting it which is moderately characteristic of the way people who staunchly advocate your stance seem to proceed.
For starters, how can you classify a percentage on "pleasure lost"? Scientifically, you couldn't really come to that conclusion, it'd be near impossible to disclose the amount of pleasure you "miss out on." And the truth is, you don't miss out on pleasure.
Secondly, you falsely attribute the penis to masculinity. While it is true thathaving a penismakes you a man, we tend to attribute masculinity to things like larger penises, etc. This is a mostly incorrect assumption, that the potency of a male is determined by the length, girth, size, shape, or aesthetic of his penis. I joked before about "cheesecels", sure, but it's not indicative of my exact beliefs on the manner to say you're lesser or greater because of what your Johnson looks like.
My point is that almost zero of this thread has been a discussion about anything other than trying to convince one side that their dink is somehow inferior. If you're going to come out and tell me "My dad XYZ, and he did it because he loved me", I can tell you that almost anybody who was circumcised will literally say the same thing. Their dad did it because their dad loved them. Basically, that's not an argument about anything, really. Your dad clearly loved you and that's why he proceeded the way he did. Because he thought it was best for you. No dad turned around and said "Let me fuk my child up" (unless they did, in which case, sorry).
And that's exactly where the issue lies; one side believes that what they have is superior over the other's. You would be very hard pressed to have a real conversation about this until both sides seperate the physical manifestation of the penis from the metaphorical representation of it.
Men need to stop playing keeping up with the Johnsons with their Johnsons. It will only further indicate the level to which we are enslaved to our own penises.
For starters, how can you classify a percentage on "pleasure lost"? Scientifically, you couldn't really come to that conclusion, it'd be near impossible to disclose the amount of pleasure you "miss out on." And the truth is, you don't miss out on pleasure.
Secondly, you falsely attribute the penis to masculinity. While it is true thathaving a penismakes you a man, we tend to attribute masculinity to things like larger penises, etc. This is a mostly incorrect assumption, that the potency of a male is determined by the length, girth, size, shape, or aesthetic of his penis. I joked before about "cheesecels", sure, but it's not indicative of my exact beliefs on the manner to say you're lesser or greater because of what your Johnson looks like.
My point is that almost zero of this thread has been a discussion about anything other than trying to convince one side that their dink is somehow inferior. If you're going to come out and tell me "My dad XYZ, and he did it because he loved me", I can tell you that almost anybody who was circumcised will literally say the same thing. Their dad did it because their dad loved them. Basically, that's not an argument about anything, really. Your dad clearly loved you and that's why he proceeded the way he did. Because he thought it was best for you. No dad turned around and said "Let me fuk my child up" (unless they did, in which case, sorry).
And that's exactly where the issue lies; one side believes that what they have is superior over the other's. You would be very hard pressed to have a real conversation about this until both sides seperate the physical manifestation of the penis from the metaphorical representation of it.
Men need to stop playing keeping up with the Johnsons with their Johnsons. It will only further indicate the level to which we are enslaved to our own penises.
Why, instead of attacking an obvious chit post like a clown don't you write me an equally detailed response to my actual position that you obviously know by now:
"performing permanent, extremely painful surgery to newborn males who cannot consent to the act and are otherwise at no risk of health consequences is immoral. It is a massive violation of their bodily autonomy"
You previously came in the thread troll with one liners about cheesedinks but then write an essay to a chit post lmao strong everything. Address my stance or gtfo.
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12-10-2020, 05:03 AM
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Originally Posted By ****inator⏩
Lol, exactly this.And sure the size of your dink, etc doesn't define you as a man, the memes itt are nothing more than typical misc ****posting.
This is a nice example of cognitive dissonance, try to put your emotions aside and look at it purely objectively. How the fck can you not be against mutilating a baby boy?
This is a nice example of cognitive dissonance, try to put your emotions aside and look at it purely objectively. How the fck can you not be against mutilating a baby boy?
Brb, essay of verbal diarrhea to my obvious chit post but when it comes to baby mutilation
TypeNirvash: "hahaha cheesecels when will they learn. Also Coal Man, y u so facetious bro"
Fking lol
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12-10-2020, 09:15 AM
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12-10-2020, 09:18 AM
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Had a nightmare last night that I was about to smash a chick and pulled my shorts down and it was an anteater!
Woke up with a big sigh of relief
Woke up with a big sigh of relief
12-10-2020, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted By Coal
I am perfectly fine with Genital Mutilation Type 1 --if that's how you want to describe it--being practiced in society. I have zero issue with it.Lol, exactly this.
Brb, essay of verbal diarrhea to my obvious chit post but when it comes to baby mutilation
TypeNirvash: "hahaha cheesecels when will they learn. Also Coal Man, y u so facetious bro"
Fking lol
Brb, essay of verbal diarrhea to my obvious chit post but when it comes to baby mutilation
TypeNirvash: "hahaha cheesecels when will they learn. Also Coal Man, y u so facetious bro"
Fking lol
It does not affect society in an impactful enough way. It does not impact me in a strong enough way, and I've had my dick snipped.
You asked me to give you a serious response, don't balk when you get it.
Since you guys feel so strongly about it, I would like to see you do something impactful and meaningful about it. Let's start by donating to research foundations and/or causes that are in relation to anti-circumcision. I would like to see any of you who have such strong opinions represent your cause to the degree that you seem to ITT.
I'd be willing to change my mind if I could see that this wasn't more than just a meme for attention on the misc and you guys were genuinely serious about the impact it would have on society.
I would match one donation up to $50.
12-10-2020, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted By TypeNirvash⏩
If you are OK with _infant_ _genital_ _mutilation_, there really isn't much we can do to change your mind. Following the argument that it is OK since "practiced in society", nothing will ever change. It isnotcommonly practiced in most christian based, civilized countries, for good reason.I am perfectly fine with Genital Mutilation Type 1 --if that's how you want to describe it--being practiced in society. I have zero issue with it.
It does not affect society in an impactful enough way. It does not impact me in a strong enough way, and I've had my dick snipped.
You asked me to give you a serious response, don't balk when you get it.
Since you guys feel so strongly about it, I would like to see you do something impactful and meaningful about it. Let's start by donating to research foundations and/or causes that are in relation to anti-circumcision. I would like to see any of you who have such strong opinions represent your cause to the degree that you seem to ITT.
I'd be willing to change my mind if I could see that this wasn't more than just a meme for attention on the misc and you guys were genuinely serious about the impact it would have on society.
I would match one donation up to $50.
It does not affect society in an impactful enough way. It does not impact me in a strong enough way, and I've had my dick snipped.
You asked me to give you a serious response, don't balk when you get it.
Since you guys feel so strongly about it, I would like to see you do something impactful and meaningful about it. Let's start by donating to research foundations and/or causes that are in relation to anti-circumcision. I would like to see any of you who have such strong opinions represent your cause to the degree that you seem to ITT.
I'd be willing to change my mind if I could see that this wasn't more than just a meme for attention on the misc and you guys were genuinely serious about the impact it would have on society.
I would match one donation up to $50.
In this thread alone, some guys said they won't mutilate their kids although mutilated themselves. Making a strong argument on social media is worth 100 times more than donating to obscure organizations.
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12-10-2020, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted By wave_length⏩
I write extensively on the modern male. And anyone who says they love being cut is suffering from pride&ego cope and should really spend more time fisting themselves.If you are OK with _infant_ _genital_ _mutilation_, there really isn't much we can do to change your mind. Following the argument that it is OK since "practiced in society", nothing will ever change. It isnotcommonly practiced in most christian based, civilized countries, for good reason.
In this thread alone, some guys said they won't mutilate their kids although mutilated themselves. Making a strong argument on social media is worth 100 times more than donating to obscure organizations.
In this thread alone, some guys said they won't mutilate their kids although mutilated themselves. Making a strong argument on social media is worth 100 times more than donating to obscure organizations.
Cheers
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Originally Posted By wave_length⏩
circumcision is not exclusive to infants, typical low IQ babble.If you are OK with _infant_ _genital_ _mutilation_, there really isn't much we can do to change your mind. Following the argument that it is OK since "practiced in society", nothing will ever change. It isnotcommonly practiced in most christian based, civilized countries, for good reason.
In this thread alone, some guys said they won't mutilate their kids although mutilated themselves. Making a strong argument on social media is worth 100 times more than donating to obscure organizations.
In this thread alone, some guys said they won't mutilate their kids although mutilated themselves. Making a strong argument on social media is worth 100 times more than donating to obscure organizations.
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Originally Posted By ****inator⏩
The ultimate emasculation. Biggest humiliation a man can experience.
Here are some facts:
Circumcision decreases penile sensitivity
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2...?dopt=Abstract
Circumcision associated with sexual difficulties
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21672947
Circumcision linked to alexithymia
http://www.mensstudies.com/content/2...4dc1e19fb&pi=4
The exaggeration of the benefits of circumcision in regards to HIV/AIDS transmission
http://jme.bmj.com/content/36/12/798.abstract
Circumcision/HIV claims are based on insufficient evidence
http://www.4eric.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/MC.pdf
There is no case for the widespread implementation of circumcision as a preventative measure to stop transmission of AIDS/HIV
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/1...1.00761.x/full
Circumcision decreases sexual pleasure
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17155977
Circumcision decreases efficiency of nerve response in the glans of the penis
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17378847
Circumcision policy is influenced by psychosocial factors rather than alleged health benefits
http://www.circumcision.org/policy.htm
Circumcision linked to pain, trauma, and psychosexual sequelae
http://www.cirp.org/library/psych/boyle6/
Circumcision results in significant loss of erogenous tissue
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8800902
Circumcision has negligible benefit
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9091693
Neonatal circumcision linked to pain and trauma
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9057731
Circumcision may lead to need for increased care and medical attention in the first 3 years of life
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9393302
Circumcision linked to psychological trauma
http://www.cirp.org/library/psych/goldman1/
Circumcision may lead to abnormal brain development and subsequent deviations in behavior
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10657682
....Let the cope begin
Talks about copeThe ultimate emasculation. Biggest humiliation a man can experience.
Here are some facts:
Circumcision decreases penile sensitivity
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2...?dopt=Abstract
Circumcision associated with sexual difficulties
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21672947
Circumcision linked to alexithymia
http://www.mensstudies.com/content/2...4dc1e19fb&pi=4
The exaggeration of the benefits of circumcision in regards to HIV/AIDS transmission
http://jme.bmj.com/content/36/12/798.abstract
Circumcision/HIV claims are based on insufficient evidence
http://www.4eric.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/MC.pdf
There is no case for the widespread implementation of circumcision as a preventative measure to stop transmission of AIDS/HIV
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/1...1.00761.x/full
Circumcision decreases sexual pleasure
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17155977
Circumcision decreases efficiency of nerve response in the glans of the penis
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17378847
Circumcision policy is influenced by psychosocial factors rather than alleged health benefits
http://www.circumcision.org/policy.htm
Circumcision linked to pain, trauma, and psychosexual sequelae
http://www.cirp.org/library/psych/boyle6/
Circumcision results in significant loss of erogenous tissue
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8800902
Circumcision has negligible benefit
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9091693
Neonatal circumcision linked to pain and trauma
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9057731
Circumcision may lead to need for increased care and medical attention in the first 3 years of life
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9393302
Circumcision linked to psychological trauma
http://www.cirp.org/library/psych/goldman1/
Circumcision may lead to abnormal brain development and subsequent deviations in behavior
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10657682
....Let the cope begin
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12-10-2020, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted By wave_length⏩
And there are several others who have doubled down on it. I disagree that a donation or a visible public support to a research foundation is less powerful. A research foundation could put information in the hands of millions and could probably be significantly more impactful.If you are OK with _infant_ _genital_ _mutilation_, there really isn't much we can do to change your mind. Following the argument that it is OK since "practiced in society", nothing will ever change. It isnotcommonly practiced in most christian based, civilized countries, for good reason.
In this thread alone, some guys said they won't mutilate their kids although mutilated themselves. Making a strong argument on social media is worth 100 times more than donating to obscure organizations.
In this thread alone, some guys said they won't mutilate their kids although mutilated themselves. Making a strong argument on social media is worth 100 times more than donating to obscure organizations.
I don't think you can say something like "Think of the babies who are senselessly harmed" and then balk at the thought of putting $50 to that cause.
If the issue is that important, and that significant, a $50 dollar donation isnothing.
In addition to that, I'd match the first donation up to $50. So your donation is instantly worth more than what it originally was. There is no reason why you would refuse if this cause was of such great importance.
Originally Posted By BearyManilowe⏩
I think the argument is such that they believe that circumcision to infants is not ethical due to the fact that they have no ability to consent. However, that argument says nothing about circumcision itself.circumcision is not exclusive to infants, typical low IQ babble.
That's the only argument I can generally give any real merit to, because after that, do whatever you want to your body.
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Originally Posted By BearyManilowe⏩
Have you read the thread?circumcision is not exclusive to infants, typical low IQ babble.
The only issue anyone has with genital mutilation is when it happens without consent, e.g. performed on an infant.
Mutilate your dick all you want as an adult. Strangely enough, it rarely happens.
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Originally Posted By TypeNirvash⏩
1. We all contribute in our own ways.1. And there are several others who have doubled down on it. I disagree that a donation or a visible public support to a research foundation is less powerful. A research foundation could put information in the hands of millions and could probably be significantly more impactful.
2. I don't think you can say something like "Think of the babies who are senselessly harmed" and then balk at the thought of putting $50 to that cause.
3. I think the argument is such that they believe that circumcision to infants is not ethical due to the fact that they have no ability to consent. However, that argument says nothing about circumcision itself.
That's the only argument I can generally give any real merit to, because after that, do whatever you want to your body.
2. I don't think you can say something like "Think of the babies who are senselessly harmed" and then balk at the thought of putting $50 to that cause.
3. I think the argument is such that they believe that circumcision to infants is not ethical due to the fact that they have no ability to consent. However, that argument says nothing about circumcision itself.
That's the only argument I can generally give any real merit to, because after that, do whatever you want to your body.
2. Of course I can. I have strong opinions on a lot of topics, I decide how to endorse them. The amount of money one is willing to donate to an organization presumably endorsing a cause is no measure of their sincerity towards it.
3. 100% agreed.
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Originally Posted By Gainzzz⏩
This entire thread is low IQ babble. Much like every other "miscer obsessed with dikz thread" that you post 40 times in.>calling someone low IQ while misunderstanding their (very simple) argument
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12-10-2020, 10:55 AM
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Imagine having a dink that looks like a dogs.
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Originally Posted By terrorgunt⏩
Imagine having a dink that looks like a dogs.
lmao
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Originally Posted By wave_length⏩
1. The point I'm trying to make is that if it'sthatimportant, and all you'd have to do to change my mind is show me that it isthatimportant... Isn't that the easiest $50 you'll ever spend? I don't think thatjust talkingabout an issue is enough. Anybody can talk about an issue, that's not much of a contribution if the conversation is already occurring. And to play the severity card and point to children, babies, to such an extent, should mean that you wouldn't have much hesitation to make that impact. Especially if you'd change one person's mind, and he'd match that donation.1. We all contribute in our own ways.
2. Of course I can. I have strong opinions on a lot of topics, I decide how to endorse them. The amount of money one is willing to donate to an organization presumably endorsing a cause is no measure of their sincerity towards it.
3. 100% agreed.
2. Of course I can. I have strong opinions on a lot of topics, I decide how to endorse them. The amount of money one is willing to donate to an organization presumably endorsing a cause is no measure of their sincerity towards it.
3. 100% agreed.
2. I believe that it's some measure of it. How about volunteering for an organization instead? Spending your time in the thick of the organization and/or volunteering for the local chapter's events? Surely, some measure of involvement beyond just words beyond the screen should be indicative of the sincerity. I can tell you anything I want about how I think it's so bad that there are people without food in this world, and probably mean it. But if I am not actively making some difference, the issue is of less concern to me than I represent it to be.
So with that said, if you volunteer for a cause related to this, I will match those hours in return.
3. I think it's fair we can agree this is the main point of contention.
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cut brah here. Would rather be uncut but it's not like my dink doesn't function or feel good. I think making that choice for an infant though is retarded and if I have any sons I'll let them make that decision when they're older.
12-10-2020, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted By WHChampion⏩
This is the only rational response a cutcel can have.cut brah here. Would rather be uncut but it's not like my dink doesn't function or feel good. I think making that choice for an infant though is retarded and if I have any sons I'll let them make that decision when they're older.
Anything else is cope or brainwashing. 100% ded fooken srs.
12-10-2020, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted By TypeNirvash⏩
Purposely omitting the important part @ consent.I am perfectly fine with Genital Mutilation Type 1 --if that's how you want to describe it--being practiced in society. I have zero issue with it.
It does not affect society in an impactful enough way.
-Massive physical pain and permanent loss in sexual function done to millions of babies every year- Has insignificant impact on society.
Pick one.
It does not impact me in a strong enough way, and I've had my dick snipped.
If everyone in this world cared only about the things that directly impacted them, we would be living in a pretty awful world. I'm surprised you of all people would make such a statement.Since you guys feel so strongly about it, I would like to see you do something impactful and meaningful about it. Let's start by donating to research foundations and/or causes that are in relation to anti-circumcision. I would like to see any of you who have such strong opinions represent your cause to the degree that you seem to ITT
Typical "well if you don't do a bajillion things about it like donating your life's savings, organizing protests, getting into politics and defending this principle with your life it obviously means you don't care. Prove to me that you do"First of all, you don't know what we do. Secondly, no one needs to prove chit to you. Thirdly, these debates raise awareness, by virtue of that alone we are doing some part. I could be doing anything else right now but I'm educating you people. That's good enough.
I'd be willing to change my mind if I could see that this wasn't more than just a meme for attention on the misc and you guys were genuinely serious about the impact it would have on society.
The arguments should speak for themselves. If that isn't enough to get you to logically follow and make sense of it, and you have the audacity to demand proof of donations (lol) then I have to seriously question your willingness to change your mind.Do onto others as you would have them do onto you. It doesn't have to be a foreskin. It could be a nose, or an eyelid, or a toe, or a flap of skin from anywhere on your body. No one should have the right to infringe in your bodily autonomy, especially if you're a defenseless child who cannot say no or physically defend yourself. I don't give a fuk if it's circumcision or removing an ass cheek, my answer would be the same and my views are consistent, unlike yours.
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12-10-2020, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted By WHChampion⏩
Thanks for having a high IQ. Repped and perfect post.cut brah here. Would rather be uncut but it's not like my dink doesn't function or feel good. I think making that choice for an infant though is retarded and if I have any sons I'll let them make that decision when they're older.
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12-10-2020, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted By WHChampion⏩
It literally its this easy people. Just admit you got the wrong side of the stick and correct your ancestor's mistakes. Its not that big of a fukin deal, you dont have to defend to death whatever situation that you were just randomly put in.cut brah here. Would rather be uncut but it's not like my dink doesn't function or feel good. I think making that choice for an infant though is retarded and if I have any sons I'll let them make that decision when they're older.
You can change your fukin mind. I refuse to believe that any intelligent man would ever spend more than an hour researching about circumcision and at the end be like "yeah im totally doing this to my kid, seems ideal".
There's just no way
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12-10-2020, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted By Coal
Again, I offered to match the donation or volunteer hours worked. You can dance around that all you like but I'm asking you to put actions in front of your words if you would like to change my mind. I don't know what you do, but I know what youwouldn'tdo.Purposely omitting the important part @ consent.
-Massive physical pain and permanent loss in sexual function done to millions of babies every year
- Has insignificant impact on society.
Pick one.
If everyone in this world cared only about the things that directly impacted them, we would be living in a pretty awful world. I'm surprised you of all people would make such a statement.
Typical "well if you don't do a bajillion things about it like donating your life's savings, organizing protests, getting into politics and defending this principle with your life it obviously means you don't care. Prove to me that you do"
First of all, you don't know what we do. Secondly, no one needs to prove chit to you. Thirdly, these debates raise awareness, by virtue of that alone we are doing some part. I could be doing anything else right now but I'm educating you people. That's good enough.
The arguments should speak for themselves. If that isn't enough to get you to logically follow and make sense of it, and you have the audacity to demand proof of donations (lol) then I have to seriously question your willingness to change your mind.
Do onto others as you would have them do onto you. It doesn't have to be a foreskin. It could be a nose, or an eyelid, or a toe, or a flap of skin from anywhere on your body. No one should have the right to infringe in your bodily autonomy, especially if you're a defenseless child who cannot say no or physically defend yourself. I don't give a fuk if it's circumcision or removing an ass cheek, my answer would be the same and my views are consistent, unlike yours.
-Massive physical pain and permanent loss in sexual function done to millions of babies every year
- Has insignificant impact on society.
Pick one.
If everyone in this world cared only about the things that directly impacted them, we would be living in a pretty awful world. I'm surprised you of all people would make such a statement.
Typical "well if you don't do a bajillion things about it like donating your life's savings, organizing protests, getting into politics and defending this principle with your life it obviously means you don't care. Prove to me that you do"
First of all, you don't know what we do. Secondly, no one needs to prove chit to you. Thirdly, these debates raise awareness, by virtue of that alone we are doing some part. I could be doing anything else right now but I'm educating you people. That's good enough.
The arguments should speak for themselves. If that isn't enough to get you to logically follow and make sense of it, and you have the audacity to demand proof of donations (lol) then I have to seriously question your willingness to change your mind.
Do onto others as you would have them do onto you. It doesn't have to be a foreskin. It could be a nose, or an eyelid, or a toe, or a flap of skin from anywhere on your body. No one should have the right to infringe in your bodily autonomy, especially if you're a defenseless child who cannot say no or physically defend yourself. I don't give a fuk if it's circumcision or removing an ass cheek, my answer would be the same and my views are consistent, unlike yours.
And I'm doing so by extending the olive branch.
Not sure what you have to lose.
You can talk all you want about helpless babies, but I was one of those once and here I am functioning normally. By very nature of that, your argument re: loss of function is mostly moot. If you're talking about full and total loss of sexual function, we're on a different page. But that's not at all what happens.
The amount of sexual function impacted is negligible at best, in favor of a significant amount of medical benefits.
My point is that if you want to argue re: the helpless children you have to recognize that there are medical benefits associated to it. And if a parent decides those benefits outweigh the negatives they can decide to perform circumcision.
12-10-2020, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted By TypeNirvash⏩
My point is that it is irrelevant to the topic how I show my sincerity. If it is morally wrong to mutilate non consenting people, it stays morally wrong, even if I'm not really that invested in it. Plus I'm not going to publish my contributions to charitable organizations because of an online challenge by an anonymous user.1. The point I'm trying to make is that if it'sthatimportant, and all you'd have to do to change my mind is show me that it isthatimportant... Isn't that the easiest $50 you'll ever spend? I don't think thatjust talkingabout an issue is enough. Anybody can talk about an issue, that's not much of a contribution if the conversation is already occurring. And to play the severity card and point to children, babies, to such an extent, should mean that you wouldn't have much hesitation to make that impact. Especially if you'd change one person's mind, and he'd match that donation.
2. I believe that it's some measure of it. How about volunteering for an organization instead? Spending your time in the thick of the organization and/or volunteering for the local chapter's events? Surely, some measure of involvement beyond just words beyond the screen should be indicative of the sincerity. I can tell you anything I want about how I think it's so bad that there are people without food in this world, and probably mean it. But if I am not actively making some difference, the issue is of less concern to me than I represent it to be.
So with that said, if you volunteer for a cause related to this, I will match those hours in return.
3. I think it's fair we can agree this is the main point of contention.
2. I believe that it's some measure of it. How about volunteering for an organization instead? Spending your time in the thick of the organization and/or volunteering for the local chapter's events? Surely, some measure of involvement beyond just words beyond the screen should be indicative of the sincerity. I can tell you anything I want about how I think it's so bad that there are people without food in this world, and probably mean it. But if I am not actively making some difference, the issue is of less concern to me than I represent it to be.
So with that said, if you volunteer for a cause related to this, I will match those hours in return.
3. I think it's fair we can agree this is the main point of contention.
You are correct in the sense that it is not the most important issue for me, but that is mostly because I do not live in a society where it is common practice. I still contribute my opinion whenever I feel it makes sense, both online and IRL.
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12-10-2020, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted By TypeNirvash⏩
Wave_length's post above this said everything.Again, I offered to match the donation or volunteer hours worked. You can dance around that all you like but I'm asking you to put actions in front of your words if you would like to change my mind. I don't know what you do, but I know what youwouldn'tdo.
And I'm doing so by extending the olive branch.
Not sure what you have to lose.
You can talk all you want about helpless babies, but I was one of those once and here I am functioning normally. By very nature of that, your argument re: loss of function is mostly moot. If you're talking about full and total loss of sexual function, we're on a different page. But that's not at all what happens.
The amount of sexual function impacted is negligible at best, in favor of a significant amount of medical benefits.
My point is that if you want to argue re: the helpless children you have to recognize that there are medical benefits associated to it. And if a parent decides those benefits outweigh the negatives they can decide to perform circumcision.
And I'm doing so by extending the olive branch.
Not sure what you have to lose.
You can talk all you want about helpless babies, but I was one of those once and here I am functioning normally. By very nature of that, your argument re: loss of function is mostly moot. If you're talking about full and total loss of sexual function, we're on a different page. But that's not at all what happens.
The amount of sexual function impacted is negligible at best, in favor of a significant amount of medical benefits.
My point is that if you want to argue re: the helpless children you have to recognize that there are medical benefits associated to it. And if a parent decides those benefits outweigh the negatives they can decide to perform circumcision.
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12-10-2020, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted By TypeNirvash⏩
this is not what goes through the parents mind thoughMy point is that if you want to argue re: the helpless children you have to recognize that there are medical benefits associated to it. And if a parent decides those benefits outweigh the negatives they can decide to perform circumcision.
ask them why they did it and the answer in 99% of cases is gonna be either "that's just how it's always been done" or "meh religion"
thankfully I live in a country where the norm is not cutting baby dicks but I honestly look at the practice in disbelief that in certain countries/religions they don't even see what's so fukked up about it
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Originally Posted By wave_length⏩
In the absence of medical benefit, I'd argue sure, it may not be alright. But because there are medical benefits, should a parent not be entitled to make the decision?My point is that it is irrelevant to the topic how I show my sincerity. If it is morally wrong to mutilate non consenting people, it stays morally wrong, even if I'm not really that invested in it. Plus I'm not going to publish my contributions to charitable organizations because of an online challenge by an anonymous user.
You are correct in the sense that it is not the most important issue for me, but that is mostly because I do not live in a society where it is common practice. I still contribute my opinion whenever I feel it makes sense, both online and IRL.
You are correct in the sense that it is not the most important issue for me, but that is mostly because I do not live in a society where it is common practice. I still contribute my opinion whenever I feel it makes sense, both online and IRL.
I agree, and that is the point I have been trying to make. The issue is not nearly as important as many people here are trying to play it as. It's not nearly as damaging as has been suggested, and not nearly as morally corrupt as it is being framed as.
12-10-2020, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted By TypeNirvash⏩
So first you say that circumcision is great because hey, you turned out great.Again, I offered to match the donation or volunteer hours worked. You can dance around that all you like but I'm asking you to put actions in front of your words if you would like to change my mind. I don't know what you do, but I know what youwouldn'tdo.
And I'm doing so by extending the olive branch.
Not sure what you have to lose.
You can talk all you want about helpless babies, but I was one of those once and here I am functioning normally. By very nature of that, your argument re: loss of function is mostly moot. If you're talking about full and total loss of sexual function, we're on a different page. But that's not at all what happens.
The amount of sexual function impacted is negligible at best, in favor of a significant amount of medical benefits.
My point is that if you want to argue re: the helpless children you have to recognize that there are medical benefits associated to it. And if a parent decides those benefits outweigh the negatives they can decide to perform circumcision.
And I'm doing so by extending the olive branch.
Not sure what you have to lose.
You can talk all you want about helpless babies, but I was one of those once and here I am functioning normally. By very nature of that, your argument re: loss of function is mostly moot. If you're talking about full and total loss of sexual function, we're on a different page. But that's not at all what happens.
The amount of sexual function impacted is negligible at best, in favor of a significant amount of medical benefits.
My point is that if you want to argue re: the helpless children you have to recognize that there are medical benefits associated to it. And if a parent decides those benefits outweigh the negatives they can decide to perform circumcision.
Then you go on to say there's a whole ton of medical benefits from circumcision..this is absolutely untrue. The penis glans is a mucus membrane, much like the inside of your nose, around eyes, inside mouth etc, and are meant to stay protected and moist. The foreskin serves that function. Your dink head is not meant to be hard and calloused rubbing against clothes 24/7. If I pull mine back and try that, within 2 mins it's so painful rubbing against my briefs I have to stop. The only reason it doesn't irritate the chit out of you is because your dink head skin has become calloused and desensitized. The foreskin also has a ton of nerves and veins running along the top. My evidence of this is that if a tongue touches this I get a chit ton of tingles up my spine. It's not a dead flap of skin, it feels as sensitive as the head itself. I can also see the big juicy veins. Removing that is clearly removing sensitivity.
Billions of years of evolution gave you, and every other male land mammal a foreskin for a reason brah.
Finally let me use your personal anecdote against you. I'm uncircumcised, have a healthy clean weiner and I turned out just fine.
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12-10-2020, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted By Coal
This.The penis glans is a mucus membrane, much like the inside of your nose, around eyes, inside mouth etc, and are meant to stay protected and moist. The foreskin serves that function. Your dink head is not meant to be hard and calloused rubbing against clothes 24/7. If I pull mine back and try that, within 2 mins it's so painful rubbing against my briefs I have to stop. The only reason it doesn't irritate the chit out of you is because your dink head skin has become calloused and desensitized.
There is simply no logical argument in favor of mutilating a baby's penis. It was done for religious reasons and it is continued today because copers have convinced themselves that removing the thing that protects your glans is.. a good thing?
They have gobbled down the propaganda and brainwashing about how the natty phallus is full of cheese and smells horrible and sloots don't like it (fkin lmao @ caring). None of this is even true. America is the outlier. It's not a normal thing anywhere else in the world that I'm aware of (outside of religious reasons).
America needs to wake up and stop maiming their sons for no reason.
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