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Thread: Safe to say Tom Brady has proven himself

post 1625555333 12-14-2020, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted By SoutheastBeast1⏩
lol he's 43

You want him to put up HOF MVP numbers at 43? GTFO


Some of you are incapable of accepting reality. If he was a system QB he would have dropped off compared to last year or when he was 41 or 40. LOL at comparing him to when he was 33 saying hurrr he dropped off compared to when he was in his prime. No f*cking sh*t sherlock. Even Brady can't escape the decline of age. No one can.
Just goes to show how retarded Brady haters are,


instead of realizing what he's doing is unprecedented and incredible at his age, the bar is set so high they're criticizing him for not being a top 3 QB like he was every season before he turned 40.


Still waiting for the list of QBs who've performed better at 43
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Originally Posted By 128⏩
Just goes to show how retarded Brady haters are,
Not as retarded as people that think wins are a QB stat.
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Originally Posted By DynamicDot⏩
Well you can take it two ways....You can either A argue that Peyton ran his own gameplan/offense or B he was adaptable towards multiple coaches, thus why he succeeded every bit as well in Denver as he did in Indy. Unless you think John Fox/Adam Gase are geniuses or something.

The run practice thing has more to do with the fact that he would succeed no matter where or what team. Peyton never had this system/offense debate like Brady has this year with Arians. Largely because Brady hasn't played great despite insane weapons, so you can either blame Brady or Arians for that and obviously most people would never blame Brady.

I am not even taking anything away from Brady. I'll argue he is better than Rodgers and Mahomes, there is just one dude I won't put him over and it's Fivehead.
Brady has brought over a ton of NE offense to TB. they look better than when they are running Arians offense.

NE’s offensive system WAS Brady. there’s a reason why the offense looks like utter **** this year and McDaniels failed with the Rams and Broncos. No Tom.
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Originally Posted By AMeyer9⏩
Cope about what?

Me coping that my QB is poised for an MVP and we already won the NFC North? Much cope.




How many times did Brady have a garbage defense? I understand it's really hard for you guys to think logically with his old saggy balls in your mouth but god damn. Dude looksokayat best.
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Originally Posted By Vhagar⏩
Lol this guy

Don’t use words you don’t understand
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People saying the falcons choked are *******s. It almost never happens a team comes back like that ever. Let alone in the superbowl. Let alone against the other top team in the game that year.
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Originally Posted By OptimistPrime11⏩
I think Brady has had an OK year.

Nothing great. If you watch him play, especially when TB plays good teams, he does struggle more than he used to.

And with that WR core, it is hard not to at least do 'ok'.

AB as your third wr? LOL.

I think if he was on a team with less weapons, his age would be exposed more.

That being said, he is still good. Just not 'great'.
This. His deep throws have been pretty awful.
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Bucs have the greatest receiving core ever, you put Nathan Peterman on that team and he throws for 30 TD.

Just saw some stat Brady has missed more TD than any QB in the league, that’s how stacked that team is.
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Originally Posted By DynamicDot⏩
Not really. His WR corps is literally better than his 2007 weapons and his stats are not even close to being the best in the league like it was in 2007. He is 14th in passer rating this year, so he's actually about league average while having far superior weapons than everyone else. Mike Evans and Chris Godwin both saw a pretty big hit in their production this year because of it. Chris Godwin was going to get paid since he is UDFA and now he lost a bunch of money this year.

Brady will prove to me he is the GOAT QB if he wins a ring with the Bucs, this year or next year. I always thought Brady was great himself obviously but I never thought he was the GOAT or the reason why they won. Belichick was the reason why they won the Superbowls.Till then, I'll go with Peyton Manning,a guy who did win with two teams because he was the system and ran his own **** and every team knew it and if you paired Peyton and Belichick they would have won just as many, if not more rings.
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Originally Posted By frezKo⏩
I haven't. You stated he's a system QB and I just completely disproved everything you ever believed in your 5 months as a NFL fan.

He's played for 3 Offensive coordinators including Charlie Weis, Bill O'Brien and Josh McDaniels. 2 of which did fukc all anywhere else they coached.

No one in this thread is stating that Tom brady will have the most passing TD's and passing yards this season. He's 43 years old. Brady's obviously declined but he's still a top 3 QB today imo, all things considered - pre-snap assessment of the defense, situational football, game-winning drives, etc. If I need one game for my life give me Tom Brady even at 43

All things a ****git wouldn't know about who watches NFL highlights instead of NFL games and thinks a Llamar jackson will be better than Mahomes.

Go back to watching your soccer and sukkin Ronaldo's dick. You know fukc all about the sport.
I literally said I dont think hes a system QB, I think hes the GOAT. I guess you didn't read anything
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Originally Posted By 128⏩
Just goes to show how retarded Brady haters are,


instead of realizing what he's doing is unprecedented and incredible at his age, the bar is set so high they're criticizing him for not being a top 3 QB like he was every season before he turned 40.


Still waiting for the list of QBs who've performed better at 43
Nobody is criticising him for how hes playing at 43, hes got great longevity no doubt about that



Its just dumb af to say that because hes still a decent QB at age 43 on another team, that somehow extrapolates back to prove he could have been a top 5 all time QB in his prime on another team

It doesnt work like that
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Originally Posted By LukeS1⏩
Nobody is criticising him for how hes playing at 43, hes got great longevity no doubt about that



Its just dumb af to say that because hes still a decent QB at age 43 on another team, that somehow extrapolates back to prove he could have been a top 5 all time QB in his prime on another team

It doesnt work like that
He's better than a decent QB, bro. I hate using age as an excuse but that definitely is a factor for his drop in production, but he's still a great QB.
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Originally Posted By Lunatic⏩
He's better than a decent QB, bro. I hate using age as an excuse but that definitely is a factor for his drop in production, but he's still a great QB.
Its tough to say, but I wouldn't put him as a top 10 QB this season, based off what we have seen so far.

Id still back him over some of those in a playoff game though
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Dude is an old man and anything he does now is gravy on his GOAT career. Let's enjoy what we have left.
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Originally Posted By LukeS1⏩
I dont get how you guys are even arguing this


The TB12 is a system QB argument is not that in another system he couldn't throw decent stats with a pro bowl roster

Its that he wouldn't still look like a top 5 all time QB, and carry his side to multiple super bowls in the absence of the favourable conditions he had at the pats

Hes done nothing to disprove that at Tampa
The other part of that argument is that you could plug any QB in the Pats system and they would succeed. That's not the case as clearly proven. However, the claim that Brady wouldn't be a HOF level QB with another team is not able to be proven. It's pure speculation.
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Originally Posted By GarthVader⏩
The other part of that argument is that you could plug any QB in the Pats system and they would succeed..
That argument has been disproved to an extent, but this Pats team is definitely one of the weakest under the Belichick era and Cam has looked pretty average.

It would be interesting to see how a Romo/Stafford/Rivers level QB would do in those teams between 2001-2018, I doubt it would be 6 rings but I would bet it would be at least 2 or 3
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Originally Posted By Droopdx⏩
This. His deep throws have been pretty awful.
Week 1-7 of this season, Brady was -- 14-39, 35.9%, 2 TDs, 0 INTs, 101.2 passer rating.
Week 8-11 of the season, Brady was -- 0-19, 0 TDs, 3 INTs
Week 12-14 of the season, Brady is -- 6-11, 55%, 2 TDs, 1 INT, 101 passer rating.

So outside of the 3 weeks he struggled, he seems to be doing just fine. But we'll stick with the narrative that Brady can't throw it deep anymore.
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Originally Posted By DynamicDot⏩
Belichick was the reason why they won the Super Bowls.
So we have to ignore some things if you truly believe this.


What Belichick did before Brady.

Nothing.

The fact that In the last 20 years Belichick is going to miss the playoffs twice, the only 2 years Brady wasn’t under center.

And the fact that Belichick lost the patriots the Super Bowl vs the eagles,

Tom Brady literally had one of the greatest performances of all time.

But Billy goat made some all time stupid decisions and cost them the game.


Brady taking a 7-9 Bucs team and turning them into a playoff team.

Bill Belichick taking a 12-4 team and missing the playoffs the next year.


“You could plug in any good QB in Tampa bay and they would be doing this good”

It’s amazing because they said the same thing about the patriots after Tom Left.


How’s that working out?
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brb brady plays till he is 50 years old, see! he's a system QB! look at him he's so garbage without a good system!
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He's still good, but he's not Tom Brady anymore. Age is setting in. He's missing throws and his judgement isn't what it once was.
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Originally Posted By Belome⏩
So we have to ignore some things if you truly believe this.


What Belichick did before Brady.?
Win 2 SB in NY
Win a playoff game with the Browns
Win a SB in which his QB threw 1 TD all postseason
Win a SB in which his QB threw 2td and 3 int all postseason
Take a 6th round bum and made a HOF QB



To quote a NE assistant “Belichick could of won multiple SB with any top 15 QB”
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Cam should be playing TE/Wildcat only. I'd say let Beli get a decent Qb in the Offseason( Maybe Wentz) then see what happens without the Goat under center..
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Originally Posted By Evolutionary1⏩
Cam should be playing TE/Wildcat only. I'd say let Beli get a decent Qb in the Offseason( Maybe Wentz) then see what happens without the Goat under center..
-Decent QB
-Wentz

Pick 1. And also have you seen his contract? Lol. Chances are Patriots draft someone like Mac Jones or they let Stidham start but they'll probably sign a top tier free agent WR, Chris Godwin possibly.
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Originally Posted By DynamicDot⏩
-Decent QB
-Wentz

Pick 1. And also have you seen his contract? Lol. Chances are Patriots draft someone like Mac Jones or they let Stidham start but they'll probably sign a top tier free agent WR, Chris Godwin possibly.
He has all the intangibles, but Philly just seems like a dumpster fire all around. He could be decent with a fresh start
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Originally Posted By Swept⏩
Win 2 SB in NY
Win a playoff game with the Browns
Win a SB in which his QB threw 1 TD all postseason
Win a SB in which his QB threw 2td and 3 int all postseason
Take a 6th round bum and made a HOF QB
So essentially nothing with out Brady.

Got it.
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lol at all this talk about this Pats team being weaker than last. the offense is literally the same except this years OL has more talent lmao

the notion of “cam sucks put a decent qb in and see what happens”...why do Brady haters not get it?

the stupid narrative for years has been you can plug ANY QB and BB would make them magical in his system. the system IS Brady.

how has McDaniels looked in his career without him?

- Rams trash as an OC
- Broncos trash as HC
- Now trash without Tom in NE
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Originally Posted By Evolutionary1⏩
He has all the intangibles, but Philly just seems like a dumpster fire all around. He could be decent with a fresh start
Does he? It's constantly reported that Wentz has bad leadership. But either way the contract is too ridiculous and if Bill trades for that then maybe he does know something
Originally Posted By HtotheOV⏩
lol at all this talk about this Pats team being weaker than last. the offense is literally the same except this years OL has more talent lmao

the notion of “cam sucks put a decent qb in and see what happens”...why do Brady haters not get it?

the stupid narrative for years has been you can plug ANY QB and BB would make them magical in his system. the system IS Brady.

how has McDaniels looked in his career without him?

- Rams trash as an OC
- Broncos trash as HC
- Now trash without Tom in NE
Edelman has been injured this year, so that alone is not the same.
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Originally Posted By Swept⏩
Win 2 SB in NY
Win a playoff game with the Browns
Win a SB in which his QB threw 1 TD all postseason
Win a SB in which his QB threw 2td and 3 int all postseason
Take a 6th round bum and made a HOF QB

To quote a NE assistant “Belichick could of won multiple SB with any top 15 QB”
Belichick wasn't head coach when they won those 2 Super Bowls.
The one playoff game he won came in his only winning season. Career record in Cleveland 36-44.
Belichick didn't turn Brady into a HOF QB. He was a big part of Brady's success, but one without the other and their accomplishments aren't what they are today.

Again, hypothetical situations to prove a point is how you know you lost the argument. And what does multiple mean? 2-3? Or 6 like he did with Brady?

Cam is a terrible QB and I would agree that with a better QB they'd be in the playoff hunt and not about to be mathematically eliminated.
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