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post 1625720443 12-16-2020, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted By JustCallMeJonny⏩
You have yet to make one logical argument which would dispute my point.
Are you able to wash your butthole properly?
post 1625720633 12-16-2020, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted By GeneralSerpant⏩
It will influence your caloric needs and raise your appetite. You can dial down your calories from there just as if you are cutting after a bulking season.
If it raises your appetite that’d seem counterproductive to a cut wouldn’t it?
post 1625720843 12-16-2020, 11:54 AM
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JFL @ responding to obvious troll reds.


-increased recovery through blood flow
-increased nutrient partitioning
-better CV health & conditioning
-increased appetite
-increase ability to fall asleep at night
-increased nutritional intake via being able to intake MORE calories than those who "just eat less"
-walking can be stress relief without impacting recovery much
-some HIIT is fun
post 1625720883 12-16-2020, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted By JustCallMeJonny⏩
I actually have what any powerlifter physique looks like. That’s what I do. I lift heavy chit rather than spend hours doing cardio to look skinny fat.
Stawp right there.

I’m 5’10 and weigh 20 pounds more than you. You are taller and weigh less yet you have major bitch tits. Sure I have the gut but I have cleavage and my tits aren’t saggy. I’ve had/still have one records in USAPL so piss off.

Just stawp.
post 1625720943 12-16-2020, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted By JustCallMeJonny⏩
If it raises your appetite that’d seem counterproductive to a cut wouldn’t it?
only if you are a pussy who cant get over having an increased appetite. But during a building phase its very beneficial so that you can eat your chicken and rice meals to give your body needed nutrients to add decent mass without feeling like barfing and having digestive issues.
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post 1625721043 12-16-2020, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted By Hartley110⏩
JFL @ responding to obvious troll reds.


-increased recovery through blood flow
-increased nutrient partitioning
-better CV health & conditioning
-increased appetite
-increase ability to fall asleep at night
-increased nutritional intake via being able to intake MORE calories than those who "just eat less"
-walking can be stress relief without impacting recovery much
-some HIIT is fun
Lifting does all the same things. Plus cardio raises your appetite causing you to be more hungry which makes those extra calories useless as you’ll be more prone to overeating. You still think I’m trolling now?
post 1625721083 12-16-2020, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted By Hartley110⏩
JFL @ responding to obvious troll reds.


-increased recovery through blood flow
-increased nutrient partitioning
-better CV health & conditioning
-increased appetite
-increase ability to fall asleep at night
-increased nutritional intake via being able to intake MORE calories than those who "just eat less"
-walking can be stress relief without impacting recovery much
-some HIIT is fun
yeah idk why I respond to this troll but for some reason I do. Its almost like he is trolling but also not trolling in some of the posts.

Some of his psots are just inflammatory and obvious trolls but then some are actual common misconceptions by even a lot of miscers.
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post 1625721163 12-16-2020, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted By JustCallMeJonny⏩
If it raises your appetite that’d seem counterproductive to a cut wouldn’t it?
That's nutrition advice for plebeians that don't exercise.

If you're actually training then your appetite will reflect your body's expanding volume capacity for light work. You keep up your training as if you're cutting, and you typically have bigger and softer margins for error with your carbs when you technically have a lot more work volume.
post 1625721203 12-16-2020, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted By JRMoore82⏩
Stawp right there.

I’m 5’10 and weigh 20 pounds more than you. You are taller and weigh less yet you have major bitch tits. Sure I have the gut but I have cleavage and my tits aren’t saggy. I’ve had/still have one records in USAPL so piss off.

Just stawp.
What are your stats?
In a fight I’d still have an advantage to overpower you as bone structure and reach work in my favor
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Originally Posted By JustCallMeJonny⏩
Lifting does all the same things. Plus cardio raises your appetite causing you to be more hungry which makes those extra calories useless as you’ll be more prone to overeating. You still think I’m trolling now?
Most intelligent & natty people don't train with weights 7x a week.

Cardio on off days..
post 1625721343 12-16-2020, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah⏩
yeah idk why I respond to this troll but for some reason I do. Its almost like he is trolling but also not trolling in some of the posts.

Some of his psots are just inflammatory and obvious trolls but then some are actual common misconceptions by even a lot of miscers.
Okay list out one “troll” argument I’ve made. I listed each point in this thread with accuracy and logical reasoning behind the statement
post 1625721553 12-16-2020, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted By GeneralSerpant⏩
That's nutrition advice for plebeians that don't exercise.

If you're actually training then your appetite will reflect your body's expanding volume capacity for light work. You keep up your training as if you're cutting, and you typically have bigger and softer margins for error with your carbs when you technically have a lot more work volume.
That absolutely made no sense at all. It seems you just looked up a few random terms in your high school biology book and mashed then into one convoluted post to come off as valid
post 1625721703 12-16-2020, 12:03 PM
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Another Wincel alt.
post 1625722393 12-16-2020, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted By saltypits⏩
Another Wincel alt.
Okay bud I understand someone starting an argument with me just for the chit of it. But to come at me in my own thread and call me these lame internet insults like incel, winced, alt, ******* etc...

Bro pls just go because you and I know I’d absolutely reck you irl if we met
post 1625722583 12-16-2020, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted By JustCallMeJonny⏩
Okay bud I understand someone starting an argument with me just for the chit of it. But to come at me in my own thread and call me these lame internet insults like incel, winced, alt, ******* etc...

Bro pls just go because you and I know I’d absolutely reck you irl if we met
ROFL, I'd just go up a flight of stairs, you wouldn't risk the chance of a heart attack.
post 1625723113 12-16-2020, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted By saltypits⏩
ROFL, I'd just go up a flight of stairs, you wouldn't risk the chance of a heart attack.
Of course you’d run away rather than face me head on. Typical little leprechauns
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Back to the topic: Like i said, if cardio increases your appetite you’re only increasing the amount of suffering on a diet. Good luck with your “willpower” I’d rather go the easy route
post 1625723453 12-16-2020, 12:20 PM
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Somewhat true, but your opinion on the matter isn't important, fat boy.
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post 1625723803 12-16-2020, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted By JustCallMeJonny⏩
I’d rather go the easy route
To McDonalds?
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MFC

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post 1625723913 12-16-2020, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted By JustCallMeJonny⏩
Of course you’d run away rather than face me head on. Typical little leprechauns
You're right, your smell alone would make me nauseous.
post 1625724473 12-16-2020, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted By kcadrenalin⏩
To McDonalds?
Can’t come up with a proper argument ?
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This bread still rustling jim jams? lol
post 1625724863 12-16-2020, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted By EmmaW4tson⏩
This bread still rustling jim jams? lol
Wow...bread...really? That’s the best insult you can come up with?
post 1625727153 12-16-2020, 12:56 PM
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I bet you get a little excited when people call this a roll bread instead of troll thread, don't you?
post 1625728693 12-16-2020, 01:10 PM
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One thing I learned the hard way is you can argue against doing almost anything in fitness and find a study that backs it up, because theres studies on both sides of every argument in fitness. But the less time you spend trying to argue against doing something most successful top level lifters say you should do, and more time researching why and how they do it, the better.

I see so many people on IG especially arguing why fasted cardio ISNT better than non fasted cardio, why you DONT need to do any cardio in the off season, why you DONT need to go to failure, why you DONT need to eat simple whole foods like chicken and rice and its macros or calories in vs calories out, why you DONT need to take any supplements, why you DONT need to feel bad about eating cheat meals, why you DONT need to push yourself to new adaptations every gym session.
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah⏩
One thing I learned the hard way is you can argue against doing almost anything in fitness and find a study that backs it up, because theres studies on both sides of every argument in fitness. But the less time you spend trying to argue against doing something most successful top level lifters say you should do, and more time researching why and how they do it, the better.

I see so many people on IG especially arguing why fasted cardio ISNT better than non fasted cardio, why you DONT need to do any cardio in the off season, why you DONT need to go to failure, why you DONT need to eat simple whole foods like chicken and rice and its macros or calories in vs calories out, why you DONT need to take any supplements, why you DONT need to feel bad about eating cheat meals, why you DONT need to push yourself to new adaptations every gym session.
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I’m sure your arteries are making all kinds of gains... all kinds.
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If you burn say as little as 100 calories doing cardio, do it every day and (in theory) that is about a lb lost a month. Do it for 12 months and that is 12 lbs lost, in which, if you have recomp goals can make a pretty big difference in how lean you look.

You can only cut so many calories before that chit starts to affect your sleep, strength, performance in the gym, etc.

Point is sometimes it is the little things that when added together which make a big difference, plus cardio has the added benefit of increased endurance, heart health, etc.
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Whatchyu talki’n bout ppl that do cardio be huffin and puffin? You be huffin and puffin just lifting a fork up to your mouth.
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in my experience cardio motivates me to eat less (why put in the work for no reason) and the satisfaction i get from the release of endorphins overcomes my hunger throughout the day
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