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12-18-2020, 12:47 PM
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We should really drop the "United" part out of the name, because it's the last thing we are.
And the only thing that would put this country back on track is LESS government, and WHOLE LOT MORE government is about to get sworn in.
And the only thing that would put this country back on track is LESS government, and WHOLE LOT MORE government is about to get sworn in.
12-18-2020, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted By John
On the specific point about health insurance. Obama’s original plan was to have the government be an insurance provider. It was the Republicans who prevented this from occurring. Everyone would right now have much cheaper coverage.No, everyone thought Obama would be a moderate president, but in his first two years, he destroyed health insurance for everyone who had it. It's great that it's accessible to people who couldn't previously afford it, but now it's unaffordable to everyone who once could...even if you get an affordable plan, you can't use it because the deductibles are astronomical.
I don't buy this thought that Biden is a moderate or that the Republicans will keep him in check if they can hold the Senate. There are already signs he'll continue on Obama's path and run his administration similarly to Obama. That suggest to me we'll see more and more executive actions to circumvent Congress. Even when the Supreme Court determines them unconstitutional, the damage will already be done and it will be irreversible.
You can hate Trump all you want, but he was one of the most transparent presidents in history. Part of the hate for him came from the fact that he lifted that curtain and let us see what goes on behind the scenes...we didn't want to know and we didn't like what we saw. I expect Biden to close that curtain again, let the agencies go back to doing all kinds of shady stuff we won't know about. I expect we'll see journalists harassed like Obama did when Biden doesn't like the reporting. I think we'll see the government used to retaliate/attack his political enemies, and the media won't report on it because they don't want to lose access to the White House...and i think it will get worse if/when he doesn't make it through his term and Harris ascends to the presidency.
I don't buy this thought that Biden is a moderate or that the Republicans will keep him in check if they can hold the Senate. There are already signs he'll continue on Obama's path and run his administration similarly to Obama. That suggest to me we'll see more and more executive actions to circumvent Congress. Even when the Supreme Court determines them unconstitutional, the damage will already be done and it will be irreversible.
You can hate Trump all you want, but he was one of the most transparent presidents in history. Part of the hate for him came from the fact that he lifted that curtain and let us see what goes on behind the scenes...we didn't want to know and we didn't like what we saw. I expect Biden to close that curtain again, let the agencies go back to doing all kinds of shady stuff we won't know about. I expect we'll see journalists harassed like Obama did when Biden doesn't like the reporting. I think we'll see the government used to retaliate/attack his political enemies, and the media won't report on it because they don't want to lose access to the White House...and i think it will get worse if/when he doesn't make it through his term and Harris ascends to the presidency.
You can’t have a developed economy where a significant proportion of the working population are unable to access healthcare. That is literally a ticking time bomb.
12-18-2020, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted By OptimusTrajan⏩
No they don’t. You’re only affected by them because you choose to be.America is dead. Tech corporations run our country now.
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12-18-2020, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted By verymuchalpha⏩
If we reduced the power of the federal government and returned a lot of control to the states, that would solve a lot of it...you don't need CA and NY telling the Plains states how to run their business, nor do you need Texas and Florida telling New England what to do. As long as you don't back-peddle to segregation and Jim Crow, everyone would be happier if we got to control our own destinies on a local or regional level.this. The country is just way too divided on such a fundamental level that a union is unsustainable.
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12-18-2020, 01:01 PM
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12-18-2020, 01:08 PM
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i'm hopeful for myself personally because i'm pursuing a graduate degree that i will finish in spring 2022, so my outlook will be quite good. for the rest of the country, they are probably going to be f*cked sideways if biden does really become president.
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12-18-2020, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted By RhysWirral⏩
That doesn’t mean they don’t have massive influence. Twitter, CNN and youtube just won the election for Biden.No they don’t. You’re only affected by them because you choose to be.
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12-18-2020, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted By John
Lol that would be 100x worse. Imagine California or NY start sanctioning other states who diverge from their policies.If we reduced the power of the federal government and returned a lot of control to the states, that would solve a lot of it...you don't need CA and NY telling the Plains states how to run their business, nor do you need Texas and Florida telling New England what to do. As long as you don't back-peddle to segregation and Jim Crow, everyone would be happier if we got to control our own destinies on a local or regional level.
12-18-2020, 01:14 PM
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US has been fukked for 20 years anyway
Karma for invading poorer countries that never wronged the US in the first place
Karma for invading poorer countries that never wronged the US in the first place
12-18-2020, 01:22 PM
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2021 will start (Jan21) with 100 day minimum shutdown including many "essential" businesses. Small businesses need to be wiped out so more people can get on the government tit. It is ALL ABOUT government control.
By summer 2021 we will be in armed conflict with some middle eastern country.
By 2022 I expect my personal income tax to increase by at least 10%
By 2023 insurance rates will by 2-3X what they are now, for those that have to pay for it.
By 2024 I will most likely see my oldest son get ready to go off to war.
By summer 2021 we will be in armed conflict with some middle eastern country.
By 2022 I expect my personal income tax to increase by at least 10%
By 2023 insurance rates will by 2-3X what they are now, for those that have to pay for it.
By 2024 I will most likely see my oldest son get ready to go off to war.
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12-18-2020, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted By Drew23⏩
Does the President even have the jurisdiction to initiate a nationwide shutdown?2021 will start (Jan21) with 100 day minimum shutdown including many "essential" businesses. Small businesses need to be wiped out so more people can get on the government tit. It is ALL ABOUT government control.
By summer 2021 we will be in armed conflict with some middle eastern country.
By 2022 I expect my personal income tax to increase by at least 10%
By 2023 insurance rates will by 2-3X what they are now, for those that have to pay for it.
By 2024 I will most likely see my oldest son get ready to go off to war.
By summer 2021 we will be in armed conflict with some middle eastern country.
By 2022 I expect my personal income tax to increase by at least 10%
By 2023 insurance rates will by 2-3X what they are now, for those that have to pay for it.
By 2024 I will most likely see my oldest son get ready to go off to war.
12-18-2020, 01:26 PM
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If they hate White People so much then just split the country. All latino's and black people and SJW's can have the west coast and White people and maybe asians can have the middle and east.
And you know what? After 6 months the west side will be begging to immigrate east again.
And you know what? After 6 months the west side will be begging to immigrate east again.
12-18-2020, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted By Devils⏩
No point saying ‘white people’ when the majority of white people voted for Biden.If they hate White People so much then just split the country. All latino's and black people and SJW's can have the west coast and White people and maybe asians can have the middle and east.
And you know what? After 6 months the west side will be begging to immigrate east again.
And you know what? After 6 months the west side will be begging to immigrate east again.
12-18-2020, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted By RhysWirral⏩
They're already doing it, so nothing will change except probably people will flee CA and NY in greater numbers...Lol that would be 100x worse. Imagine California or NY start sanctioning other states who diverge from their policies.
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12-18-2020, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted By ErnieMccracken⏩
do they really? i've never looked into the stats deeply. i know there are rich lib peeps but i find it hard to believeReminder: the lib states are the ones that make all the money.
you have 250k people making 250k its only 62.5bil
you have 10 mil people making 100k its 1 trillion
or 10 mil people making 50k it's still 500 billion - or 8X the amount but still making 5X less per person
12-18-2020, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted By propreffered7⏩
That’s not how the economy works at all.do they really? i've never looked into the stats deeply. i know there are rich lib peeps but i find it hard to believe
you have 250k people making 250k its only 62.5bil
you have 10 mil people making 100k its 1 trillion
or 10 mil people making 50k it's still 500 billion - or 8X the amount but still making 5X less per person
you have 250k people making 250k its only 62.5bil
you have 10 mil people making 100k its 1 trillion
or 10 mil people making 50k it's still 500 billion - or 8X the amount but still making 5X less per person
12-18-2020, 04:50 PM
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I don't think it really matters who the President is. Corporate America has their authoritarian grasp on the majority of Americans. Follow our rules or get fired. At-will employment state? We'll make up a rule or policy on the spot and you're gone. Corporate is a cesspool. Small business is what we need to focus on. There needs to be an overhaul on non-profits and charities as well.
So I enjoyed Trump as President (didn't vote for him) because he was pretty transparent and he brought to light a lot of the issues within government. He got people thinking about local and state laws a bit more. Both the federal and state government has a bit too much power when it comes to individual freedoms as we found out this year.
But in the grand scheme of things this country is too big to be turned in either direction very quickly. Right or left. The way our govt. is set up, that's the intent, not to change anything too fast. If we start court packing, that will be a different story. We need more parties to influence govt, get rid of the two party election process. Term limits, age limits. Andrew Yang has a lot of good ideas on this topic.
We need anti-trust laws to make some headway, that's one of our biggest concerns imo. Big tech needs to be broken up and regulated when it comes to user data, screwing with elections etc.
I could go on and on, but I'm still hopeful. I don't see Biden doin chit for the middle class, something Trump actually did a lot for, with just jobs. But once the middle class is gone my hope for the country is going to fade pretty fast.
Before taking office, Trump talked a lot about the national debt, and nothing was done in that regard. I was worried about this back in 2007 when I actually learned how it all work, bam great recession, and debt skyrocketed some more. I just don't see how this works out anytime soon.
So I enjoyed Trump as President (didn't vote for him) because he was pretty transparent and he brought to light a lot of the issues within government. He got people thinking about local and state laws a bit more. Both the federal and state government has a bit too much power when it comes to individual freedoms as we found out this year.
But in the grand scheme of things this country is too big to be turned in either direction very quickly. Right or left. The way our govt. is set up, that's the intent, not to change anything too fast. If we start court packing, that will be a different story. We need more parties to influence govt, get rid of the two party election process. Term limits, age limits. Andrew Yang has a lot of good ideas on this topic.
We need anti-trust laws to make some headway, that's one of our biggest concerns imo. Big tech needs to be broken up and regulated when it comes to user data, screwing with elections etc.
I could go on and on, but I'm still hopeful. I don't see Biden doin chit for the middle class, something Trump actually did a lot for, with just jobs. But once the middle class is gone my hope for the country is going to fade pretty fast.
Before taking office, Trump talked a lot about the national debt, and nothing was done in that regard. I was worried about this back in 2007 when I actually learned how it all work, bam great recession, and debt skyrocketed some more. I just don't see how this works out anytime soon.
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12-18-2020, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted By RhysWirral⏩
LOL. No we didn't.No point saying ‘white people’ when the majority of white people voted for Biden.
Trump won fair and square.
The marxist *******s are trying to steal it from all those who voted for Trump and gaslighting anybody who tries to call them out for it.
2nd civil war before 2021 ends.
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Originally Posted By MiscInformed⏩
Are you ready to fight and go out on your shield, patriot? As you,you personally?LOL. No we didn't.
Trump won fair and square.
The marxist *******s are trying to steal it from all those who voted for Trump and gaslighting anybody who tries to call them out for it.
2nd civil war before 2021 ends.
100% srs.
https://bannonswarroom.com/wp-conten...12.15.20-1.pdf
Trump won fair and square.
The marxist *******s are trying to steal it from all those who voted for Trump and gaslighting anybody who tries to call them out for it.
2nd civil war before 2021 ends.
100% srs.
https://bannonswarroom.com/wp-conten...12.15.20-1.pdf
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12-18-2020, 06:15 PM
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America doesn't manufacture as much as it used to.
There has been a large shift towards other industries.
This will probably lead to problems in the future.
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There has been a large shift towards other industries.
This will probably lead to problems in the future.
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Originally Posted By criminal_manne⏩
Big finance needs to be destroyed?Only for Tech and Finance. There are other industries. Energy for example. So wrong !
Big Tech and big finance need destroyed anyway. They are cause of destruction of our culture.
Big Tech and big finance need destroyed anyway. They are cause of destruction of our culture.
Then why do you support massive tax cuts on corporations and deregulation?
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No, not really.
Clown world is only getting worse.
Clown world is only getting worse.
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Originally Posted By Drew23⏩
Yes and all while being called a "Nazi" and blammed for everything.2021 will start (Jan21) with 100 day minimum shutdown including many "essential" businesses. Small businesses need to be wiped out so more people can get on the government tit. It is ALL ABOUT government control.
By summer 2021 we will be in armed conflict with some middle eastern country.
By 2022 I expect my personal income tax to increase by at least 10%
By 2023 insurance rates will by 2-3X what they are now, for those that have to pay for it.
By 2024 I will most likely see my oldest son get ready to go off to war.
By summer 2021 we will be in armed conflict with some middle eastern country.
By 2022 I expect my personal income tax to increase by at least 10%
By 2023 insurance rates will by 2-3X what they are now, for those that have to pay for it.
By 2024 I will most likely see my oldest son get ready to go off to war.
You libs need to understand we have had enough and don't want to participate anymore. Eventually, as demostrated throughout history a breaking point will come.
People are willing to put up with a lot of **** until there is less food on the table and you target their kids.
And you nutty racist lib ****s have managed to do just that. What happens in the near future is on you.
But congrats for being open minded and bending over for minorities and gays I guess?
- I dont give a **** about slavery as it had nothing to do with me.
- Gays are perverts and can keep their sexual behavior to themselves like any decent adult.
- Democrats are communists and this is about power and control not helping people.
- Donald Trump is the legitimate President of the United States and Joe Do Nothing Biden is a cheater and a fraud.
I'd imagine you have a list that is very much the opposite of mine. So lets go our own seperate ways.
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