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post 1626164423 12-20-2020, 11:57 PM
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Meh I don’t even care

Life isn’t that serious

I’m just going to die anyways, why worry about it
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Originally Posted By Sophus
Wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww wwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

You could have had me banned for 6 months. Maybe this is a positive sign. I want you to do me a favor since you won't take my bet - Try turning off whatever left-wing news channel you watch daily for those 6 months instead. Once you start thinking for yourself and believing what you see in your real life more than what you see on TV, you will possibly come to the same conclusions as me
I listened to nothing but right wing sources for 6 months prior to the election, srs. I just don't find any of the theories more believable than the truth. I was actually a bit active on the R&P board and i could have almost been considered a trumper.

The election - Trump would have won had there not been mail in ballots. The mail in ballots allowed the Democrats to set up shop in highly populated blue areas and were able to register so many blue voters that would have NEVER voted in person. This explains why there were 150m votes this year compared to ~130 most ears.
They simply had a more successful mail in ballot strategy than the Republicans.
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Originally Posted By Frank
I was actually pretty skeptical till a couple months ago too. But I couldn't find a theory that made sense more than the simple truth. A virus showed up that infects a lot of people, kills a few, hospitalizes a lot, and bogs down the health care systems.

I would be interested in hearing a well thought out and believable theory on what is happening and why from your point of view.
I don't have any concrete idea of what exactly is going on, but a few things just from thinking/reading/and personal experience

I believe the virus was biologically altered. Whether or not there was bad intentions and by who, IDK. But back in January my coach who is extremely intelligent in the science field was studying it already and came to the conclusion that it had definitely been touched by humans.

I also know it is very real and can be dangerous. I am extremely healthy, but I caught it this summer (haven't even been sick in 10 years) and thought I was going to die. Was out for 3 weeks Worst sickness of my life. Very srs

Where you might see me as a bit crazy is that I think there are very wealthy forces(global elite etc), using politicians to 100% take advantage of the situation and potentially accelerating a sort of "wealth transfer". Things like an attempt at instilling a more socialist, globalist type of landscape where they rule and everyone else is poor, elimination of the middle class. These are the main reasons I'm heavily opposed to things like gun control, shutdowns etc.

Thank you for sharing your mindset brah. I am interested because both online and irl, the biggest difference I see between the two sides is:

Conspiracy theorist types tend to be more paranoid and untrusting, while IMO the other side is too naive and trusting. The people I know irl who are all pro shutdown etc seem naive to the possibilities of how manipulative humans can be.
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Originally Posted By Sophus
Turn off all news. It makes you dumber. Look at the headlines or main story every now and then, then think about them objectively and realize how they said the opposite just two weeks ago. This happens all the fuking time
I 100% believe what is being reported to me through local news outlets is the truth. Think about it - how impossible would it be to pretend that all ICU beds in my province are full when they aren't. Everyone in the province has 2 degrees of separation from someone in the health care field, surely there would be a whistleblower somewhere, a nurse, an orderly, something?

And guess what, our hospitals weren't full this spring when we locked down. It was a proactive measure that with hindsight looks like it was overkill.
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Originally Posted By Frank
I 100% believe what is being reported to me through local news outlets is the truth. Think about it - how impossible would it be to pretend that all ICU beds in my province are full when they aren't. Everyone in the province has 2 degrees of separation from someone in the health care field, surely there would be a whistleblower somewhere, a nurse, an orderly, something?

And guess what, our hospitals weren't full this spring when we locked down. It was a proactive measure that with hindsight looks like it was overkill.
lol @ scumbags that dont have at least 5 nurses telling them how crazy chit is in their bumble/tinder/hinge queue
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Originally Posted By Sevenlionz
I don't have any concrete idea of what exactly is going on, but a few things just from thinking/reading/and personal experience

I believe the virus was biologically altered. Whether or not there was bad intentions and by who, IDK. But back in January my coach who is extremely intelligent in the science field was studying it already and came to the conclusion that it had definitely been touched by humans.

I also know it is very real and can be dangerous. I am extremely healthy, but I caught it this summer (haven't even been sick in 10 years) and thought I was going to die. Was out for 3 weeks Worst sickness of my life. Very srs

Where you might see me as a bit crazy is that I think there are very wealthy forces(global elite etc), using politicians to 100% take advantage of the situation and potentially accelerating a sort of "wealth transfer". Things like an attempt at instilling a more socialist, globalist type of landscape where they rule and everyone else is poor, elimination of the middle class. These are the main reasons I'm heavily opposed to things like gun control, shutdowns etc.

Thank you for sharing your mindset brah. I am interested because both online and irl, the biggest difference I see between the two sides is:

Conspiracy theorist types tend to be more paranoid and untrusting, while IMO the other side is too naive and trusting. The people I know irl who are all pro shutdown etc seem naive to the possibilities of how manipulative humans can be.
I don't see any issues with your theory. In fact we share almost the same views. I don't really consider that a conspiracy, thats just the reality of the world.
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Originally Posted By Frank
I 100% believe what is being reported to me through local news outlets is the truth. Think about it - how impossible would it be to pretend that all ICU beds in my province are full when they aren't. Everyone in the province has 2 degrees of separation from someone in the health care field, surely there would be a whistleblower somewhere, a nurse, an orderly, something?

And guess what, our hospitals weren't full this spring when we locked down. It was a proactive measure that with hindsight looks like it was overkill.
Literally the entire internet is full of whistleblowers lmao. The healthcare system isn’t, and never was bogged down.

There is a virus. A virus exists. I’ll give you that much. Because a virus has always existed. Many of them. But everything that’s happened has been a hoax. It’s actually documented quite well. All you have to do is seek it.

However, I’ve been doing this long enough to know better than to try to convince someone who is still asleep. My intent is merely to tell you that if you wanted the truth, it’s there. And it’s not that hard to find. It just starts with turning off your tv, and well, most people can’t even get past that step, sooooo....
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Originally Posted By Sophus
Stopped reading here. You think I can't tell that? That's obvious based on your posts.

Orange man bad. Covid real. Wear mask.

Come on man!

I know all of your viewpoints - they're whatever the television run by liberals tells you to think
This is what I believe.

click on ICU. Look at the trend. I believed these numbers back in April when I said the response was overblown, and I still believe them today.

https://www.alberta.ca/stats/covid-1...statistics.htm


Now tell me what would have to be true, for these numbers to be false.
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Originally Posted By Mcfreako
Literally the entire internet is full of whistleblowers lmao. The healthcare system isn’t, and never was bogged down.

There is a virus. A virus exists. I’ll give you that much. Because a virus has always existed. Many of them. But everything that’s happened has been a hoax. It’s actually documented quite well. All you have to do is seek it.

However, I’ve been doing this long enough to know better than to try to convince someone who is still asleep. My intent is merely to tell you that if you wanted the truth, it’s there. And it’s not that hard to find. It just starts with turning off your tv, and well, most people can’t even get past that step, sooooo....
I'm going to be 100% honest, I never took you seriously as a poster before, so don't expect me to now. See post #8 ITT.
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What most people call conspiracy is actually a psyop. This idea that you can never know anything and even if you did, then they would take care of you, is bunk. Take a look around... Corruption is everywhere and people are disappeared all the time. It is discouraging, but not hopeless.

For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.
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Originally Posted By Frank
The assumption with conspiracy theorists is that they assume reality is not the truth.

Covid is real
Healthcare systems are overwhelmed, which force governments to implement lockdowns
There are no purposefully nefarious intentions with the vaccine

^^
That's reality.
???

You went from two facts to saying there's no nefarious intentions with 'the vaccine' which you absolutely cannot prove.
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Originally Posted By ninetynine8
???

You went from two facts to saying there's no nefarious intentions with 'the vaccine' which you absolutely cannot prove.
fair point. Its still reality.
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Originally Posted By Frank
I'm going to be 100% honest, I never took you seriously as a poster before, so don't expect me to now.
I don’t even have any clue who you are. But thanks for remembering me. Considering I think I haven’t posted in about 4 years lmao. Did I hurt your feelings or something 4 years ago? Was I mean to you?

Having said that, was this your easy way of ignoring what I said? Intelligent people can debate ideas without trying to make it personal. That’s what intelligent people do. But this highlights the entire issue with trying to debate a liberal. They just simply are not very smart. Ideas don’t matter anymore. Reality doesn’t matter. The only thing that matters is whether or not your feelings got hurt at some point. Lol. Weakness.
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post 1626165853 12-21-2020, 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted By Mcfreako
Literally the entire internet is full of whistleblowers lmao. The healthcare system isn’t, and never was bogged down.

There is a virus. A virus exists. I’ll give you that much. Because a virus has always existed. Many of them. But everything that’s happened has been a hoax. It’s actually documented quite well. All you have to do is seek it.

However, I’ve been doing this long enough to know better than to try to convince someone who is still asleep. My intent is merely to tell you that if you wanted the truth, it’s there. And it’s not that hard to find. It just starts with turning off your tv, and well, most people can’t even get past that step, sooooo....
They are taking beds out of hospitals for "social distancing" apparently and not letting family members into the room... Lmao. Meanwhile we have a cure but nobody cares. We have whistleblowers but nobody cares. We have a vaccine and that's a bunch of crap. Less effective than Ivermectin. News channels 24/7 running this garbage too. The media is the real virus.
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Originally Posted By Sophus
I don't get it. What are you trying to show me?
Summary
Average age for COVID cases that died is 82 years (range: 23-106)
Average age for COVID cases hospitalized with an ICU stay is 60 years (range: 0-89)
Average age for COVID cases hospitalized is 62 years (range: 0-104)
Average age for COVID cases not hospitalized is 37 years (range: 0-108)

Are you trying to point out that the average age for someone who dies of covid in Alberta (82) is higher than the average age of people who die in Alberta from any cause (81.5)?
The trend of hospitalizations/ICU beds.

I know it is not very deadly, and mostly old people die. (1%CFR for AB, CFR not IFR) These old people still take up hospital beds and resources.



Now tell me, what do I have to believe in order to not believe the above trend?
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Originally Posted By JGats
They are taking beds out of hospitals for "social distancing" apparently and not letting family members into the room... Lmao. Meanwhile we have a cure but nobody cares. We have whistleblowers but nobody cares. We have a vaccine and that's a bunch of crap. Less effective than Ivermectin. News channels 24/7 running this garbage too. The media is the real virus.
That’s the truth.
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Originally Posted By Mcfreako
I don’t even have any clue who you are. But thanks for remembering me. Considering I think I haven’t posted in about 4 years lmao. Did I hurt your feelings or something 4 years ago? Was I mean to you?

Having said that, was this your easy way of ignoring what I said? Intelligent people can debate ideas without trying to make it personal. That’s what intelligent people do. But this highlights the entire issue with trying to debate a liberal. They just simply are not very smart. Ideas don’t matter anymore. Reality doesn’t matter. The only thing that matters is whether or not your feelings got hurt at some point. Lol. Weakness.
You were an idiot that pissed his pants in the middle of every thread trying to be funny. Unfortunately yes I remember you.
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Originally Posted By Sophus
It's flu season
You will get nowhere with her. She’s already exposed herself as one of the sheep. Just let it go. Spend your energy elsewhere.
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Originally Posted By Sophus
It's flu season
Indeed. And the entire world is working from home, schooling from home, and avoiding mass gatherings. So what do you think would happen to those numbers if we went back to normal?
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That makes sense, but your argument is invalid because these globalists have put everything out in the open for everyone to see and it's unfolding before our very eyes.
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Originally Posted By Frank
You were an idiot that pissed his pants in the middle of every thread trying to be funny. Unfortunately yes I remember you.
Yeah, I still have no clue who you are. Sorry my posts on lifting forum from 4 years ago affected you so deeply. Jk I’m not actually sorry at all. Lol.
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Originally Posted By Mcfreako
You will get nowhere with her. She’s already exposed herself as one of the sheep. Just let it go. Spend your energy elsewhere.
Yes son, come back to my Trump thread with the people that are well connected with reality.

Sorry if you took offense to being called an idiot - I thought it was an act.
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Originally Posted By Frank
Yes son, come back to my Trump thread with the people that are well connected with reality.

Sorry if you took offense to being called an idiot - I thought it was an act.
Calm down Nancy. Don’t go and do anything stupid now...4 years of bottled up tension is no joke. Sit down. Take a deep breath, maybe order another soy latte from Starbucks, turn on Rachel Maddow, and just relax.
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Originally Posted By Sophus
Honestly you're a fuking idiot. Sometimes I legitimately question whether you're trolling or the biggest fuking sheep on planet Earth. There's no hope for you srs. You're only good for repeating what the TV teaches you, which is garbage. Your head is a trash can
whoops I thought we were having a discussion lmao. Did you get stumped?
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Originally Posted By Sophus
Honestly you're a fuking idiot. Sometimes I legitimately question whether you're trolling or the biggest fuking sheep on planet Earth. There's no hope for you srs. You're only good for repeating what the TV teaches you, which is garbage. Your head is a trash can
Nope, he really is that stupid lol
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Originally Posted By Sophus
If you argue with an idiot noone can tell the difference. Sorry I have to go



Humanity is fuked srs
Fortunately his kind likely doesn’t reproduce at a very high rate. I think this phase will die out. I don’t think it’s something that’s been passed down, I think it is the millennial generation(who were the guinea pigs of the elites) when it came to lowering testosterone levels, eliminating free thought, demonizing masculinity, and reversing gender roles. He’s a product of that experimentation. But don’t expect him to pass his genes on. I think once the millennial generation dies off, most of this will die off with them.
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Originally Posted By Mcfreako
Fortunately his kind likely doesn’t reproduce at a very high rate. I think this phase will die out. I don’t think it’s something that’s been passed down, I think it is the millennial generation(who were the guinea pigs of the elites) when it came to lowering testosterone levels, eliminating free thought, demonizing masculinity, and reversing gender roles. He’s a product of that experimentation. But don’t expect him to pass his genes on. I think once the millennial generation dies off, most of this will die off with them.
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Originally Posted By Frank
The assumption with conspiracy theorists is that they assume reality is not the truth.

Covid is real
Healthcare systems are overwhelmed, which force governments to implement lockdowns
There are no purposefully nefarious intentions with the vaccine

^^
That's reality.
Except that's not reality at all.

And no amount of mental gymnastics will help you (and the likes of you) come up with a logical explanation for Sweden. Zero.

And before you start blabbering about some mythical Swedish "culture" of social distancing and wearing a mask by choice, this is how Swedes have been commuting the entire year:


Stockholm subway October 2020

https://streamable.com/nalpqc


And this is how they have been shopping the entire year:


Stockholm Ikea November 2020

https://streamable.com/xz0y7g


And this is how they have been drinking in pubs the entire year:





Keep believing and listening to shills like Anderson Cooper and Bill Gates shrieking about "exponential growth" as far back as March 2020.



Bill Gates (first 40 seconds) "If you have 100 cases and let's say you don't do a shutdown... then it grows 33% A DAY. 100... 1000.... 10,000... IT'S EXPONENTIAL GROWTH!!!"

And he was scaremongering and shrieking about this nonsense at a time when Sweden already had 3500 cases.

And only now,10 fookin months later, did the Swedish government finally announce the other day that itrecommends wearing masksonly on public transport andonly at certain times.

But according to the math and blind faith of conformist coronatards, Sweden and its health care system should have gone up in flames some time back in April.

In Corona We Trust

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Originally Posted By LooksMaximus
Except that's not reality at all.
That is the reality where I live, LooksMaximus. We cruised through the summer with little to no cases and certainly could have had the same type of restrictions that Sweden had. In fact I was supporting Sweden. The spring lockdowns, with hindsight, were an overreaction. I attached a trend with covid related hospitalizations for my province. Once schools returned and cold weather hit the cases skyrocketed. A big factor affecting the healthcare system is the government rules on covid for lack of a better word. If someone comes in contact with a covid positive case they have to self isolate for 10 days....one infected nurse can take a team of 10 out for 10 days. This strains the manpower situation. Plus actual nurses getting sick and taking time off work.

Maybe they're being too cautious and putting people in beds that don't need to be - I'm not sure.

But you'll have to explain to me how I'm not supposed to believe this chart.

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That's not true at all, OP. The majority of theories touted by CT'ers are nonsense, but big international moves can't be hidden and neither can their intentions when you see what happens as a result of their actions. All you have to do is watch how the chips fall and everything becomes crystal clear. The confusion comes from a myriad of places, but for those that are paying attention it's plain as day, eventually.
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